What you should not say in Public: The Presentation

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Published on The Doomstead Diner on March 14, 2017

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Last week, Dr Geoff Chia put up an article/announcement of a lecture he was giving at the Ecocenter in Queensland Oz on March 10th, which he fortunately got recorded so it can be more widely dispersed. You will find the lecture and the slides he used in the video above.  Also included here is an Audio only track you can download to your mp3 player or smartphone to play while you are gardening or biking to work, or sitting in traffic in your SUV on Diner Soundcloud.

The lecture has inspired some lively comentary Inside the Diner, here is a sample of that:

From Lucid Dreams:

Dr. Chia is a good speaker.

From RE

I agree, although after listening to the whole thing, I felt he was a little heavy handed.  Imagine if I pitched that spin at the convocation!  The movers & shakers would have looked at me like I was from Mars!  I wrote Geoff back I think he needs to take it down a notch for the Newbies.

From K-Dog

Why pander to the newbies?  The sooner one can accept the truth and reinvent themselves to carry on in spite of the doom before us the better!  Perhaps convincing people that massive change is coming but playing down without denial the misery and death part of the fate before us could wake up more people.  I will agree with that.

From Lucid Dreams

Speaking from experience with speaking to crowds about these topics, doesn't matter how much you down play it.  Most people are not going to recognize the information as valid because it amounts to pulling the rug out from under their sense of security.  People start marinating on the ramifications of Peak Oil and then they start to hyperventilate (only in their unconscious mind).  The unconscious mind then promptly kicks out the possibility of even entertaining the doomy notions presented.  Vaporware, scientists, renewable energy, and technotriumphalism coupled with the psychology of previous investment all finish the job of denial.

Simply put, it matter not how you present the information.  Whether you do it with a spoon full of sugar or with a fuckin' sledge hammer, the results are always the same…denial…

Unless the person is ready to accept the information…in which case they will likely have found that information by a simple google search.

From RE

I think there is a balance to be struck to begin opening the window without having them freak out and go into full denial mode.  Remember, a Spoonful of Sugar Makes the Medicine Go Down! :icon_sunny:

 

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5 Responses to What you should not say in Public: The Presentation

  • St. Roy says:

    RE: Thanks for posting Dr. Chia’s talk. It was very good.

  • tagio says:

    RE, Dr. Chia is one of my favorites at the Diner, thanks for posting his talk, it was very good.   I am of the "why pull punches" in the presentation mindset.  Might as well hit them with the full truth.  I infer from his remarks that his audience was likely familar with the CO2 graph that he was speaking to an environmental group, so only his peak oil / net energy cliff presentaiton was likely to be "new and scary" to them. 

    The title, however, "why you need to set up a rural homestead," is highly misleading, as Dr. Chia does not address this topic at all in his presentation.  As you know from Dr. Chia's articles about having an off-grid capable mini-house that can be driven to and parked on some land, preferably in concert with other like-minded families/individuals, who have planned the whole thing in advance, is his own recommended approach.    

    Thanks again, Dr. Chia is a very good speaker. It would be interesting to hear what reactions he got after the presentation.

    • RE says:

      From what he told me, he got the usual gamut, from some complete deniers to some who had partial acceptance and knowledge of what is ongoing.  The audience was of course made up of people who are ecologically aware/concerned, considering it was held at the Queensland Ecocenter of Griffith University.

      I do agree the lecture title does not reflect all that well the content of the lecture.  You have to know the rest of Geoff’s work to draw the connections.  But then everyone titles their own shit as they will. lol.

      I’m not with you on the “why pull punches” philosophy.  Especially wih brand newbies, you gotta spoon feed for a while.  When you give the “Birds & the Bees” explanation to your 9 year old, do you go into all the intricacies of how condoms and a cervical cap work?  Do you explain to them what a blowjob is and whether they should spit or swallow? lol.  No, you feed this information out a bit at a time, in chunks they can handle.

      RE

  • UnhingedBecauseLucid says:

    ["Simply put, it matter not how you present the information.  Whether you do it with a spoon full of sugar or with a fuckin' sledge hammer, the results are always the same…denial…"]

    Some are indeed irretrievable from their state of autistic tantrum whether ideologically or relgiously induced. But critical mass could be enough.

    Personnally, I think we've had more than enough sugar spoons in this matter.

    The truth is that the only tool circumstances now allow for is the sledgehammer.  

    We may paint it pink and put a smiley face on it if it suits the occasion, but the greatest determining factor of its effectivness will be the wielders themselves and their "technique", and how judiciously targeted their strikes will be…

  • UnhingedBecauseLucid says:

    Wow, little that we knew that Mary Poppins was had a sensible advice for us 50 years down the road:

    Listen to the 4:15 – 4:23 segment.

    ["Enough is as good as a feast"]   

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