Secession

Financial WWIII: Secessions, Sanctions & Anti-Dollars

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Secession: Scotland to Texas to Alaska…and BEYOND!

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braveheart…As interesting and topical as the last week before the Scottish Vote on Secession is, I don’t wanna bog down too much on this potential major Black Swan and rant on just this one all week, even though the ramifications are endless to this, no matter which way it goes though definitely greater if a YES Vote for secession prevails.

There are secessionary movements all over Europe these days, most well known are is the one in Catalonia trying to divorce from Spain, but really in many places in Europe you have Nation-States cobbled together with different tribal groups, like for instance the Flemish in the Netherlands and the Magyars in Hungary etc. If the Scots do manage to break away from the UK, this will breath new life into about all of these secessionary movements. Which of course goes a long way toward explaining WHY there is a snowball’s chance in hell the Scots will be able to pull off a secession merely by voting for it.

TPTB that run the monetary system through the BIS simply cannot ALLOW such secessions, they aren’t geared up for that. They are geared for ever further consolidation into a New World Order, not only do they view Europe as a “single state”, the objective would be there to eventually bring Russia and China in as well, eventually running the entire world with a monetary and taxation system all determined by a few Clowns in Brussels. They did pretty good with this in the years since WWII, cobbling together the Euro as a cross border currency in Eurotrashland and developing Financial Warfare methods to drop on any Nation-State that would DARE to try to break free of the Hegemony over financial transactions Wall Street and the City of London have held onto for 300 years, but cracks in this edifice are appearing all over the place now as the realities of Irredeemable Debt and Resource Depletion become more apparent everywhere…

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Vote YES! on Scottish Independence

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Published on The Economic Collapse on September 11, 2014

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Vote YES On Scottish Independence – Scotland Finally Has A Chance To Get Free From The British

Scottish FlagScottish voters finally have the opportunity to fulfill William Wallace’s dream of a Scotland that is free and independent of England forever.  All they have to do is vote yes next week.  Without a doubt, a divorce from the British would be quite messy, and life would probably be more comfortable in the short-term if Scotland remains part of the United Kingdom.  But hopefully the people of Scotland are looking beyond short-term concerns.  Today, the United Kingdom is a horribly repressive Big Brother police state that is dominated by bureaucratic control freaks.  You can hardly even sneeze without violating some kind of law, rule or regulation.  And the London banking establishment is at the very heart of the debt-based global financial system which is enslaving so much of the planet.  Scotland finally has a chance to get free from all of this.  All it is going to take is a yes vote on Scottish independence.

It looks like it is going to be an incredibly close vote.  Recent polls show that the result could go either way.  Needless to say, this is causing the British establishment to freak out quite a bit.

For example, a couple of large banks have attempted to sway the vote during this past week by publicly declaring that they will have to move to England if the vote for Scottish independence is successful…

The Royal Bank of Scotland announced Thursday that it is making contingency plans to move its legal incorporation to England in the event of a “yes” vote. In addition, Lloyds Banking Group said it had made arrangements to establish “new legal entities” in England should voters in Scotland decide to sever ties with Britain.

And there have been lots of other warnings of “economic disaster” for Scotland if it does not remain part of the United Kingdom

Standard Life, the pensions company, disclosed that it was planning to move part of its business to England to protect its customers, while BP and Shell backed expert predictions that North Sea oil will have all but run out by 2050. It also emerged that nearly $2-billion has flowed out of U.K. equity funds in the past two months amid heightened uncertainty over what separation would mean for the economy.

Honestly, it is probably true that there would be some short-term economic disruptions for Scotland.

But in the long run the Scottish would probably be in quite good shape considering how much of the North Sea oil they would own.  Just check out the following excerpt from a recent Bloomberg article

The discovery of North Sea riches in the 1970s planted the seed of modern-day Scottish nationalism as supporters of independence cried “It’s our oil!”

Four decades later, nothing will be more important to the economic future of Scotland than the oil industry should the country vote to end the 307-year union with the rest of the U.K.

Reserves of oil and gas would be split, possibly along the so-called median line, already used to allocate fishing rights. The division would hand the Scots about 96 percent of annual oil production and 47 percent of the gas, according to estimates for 2012 by the University of Aberdeen’s Alex Kemp and Linda Stephen cited by the Scottish government.

What most British politicians won’t tell you is that it would probably be the British that would suffer the most economically in the short-term and in the long-term.

In fact, if there is a yes vote for Scottish independence it is being projected that the value of the British pound will fall substantially and we could see a “negative shock” in British financial markets…

Adam Memon, the head of economic research at the Centre for Policy Studies, said: “The principal immediate threat would be to sterling and the stability of the financial markets. The recent selloff is a mere warning of what may come if the Scots actually do vote for independence.”

Threadneedle Investments said: “Given the constitutional and economic uncertainties attached to a potential break-up of the UK, a vote for independence would be likely to deliver a negative shock to UK financial assets and lead to meaningful currency weakness.”

And actually, the Scottish are not going nearly far enough with this vote for independence.  For example, according to Yes Scotland a newly-independent Scottish government would continue to have allegiance to the Queen…

The Scottish Government’s proposal is that the Queen remains Head of State in Scotland, in the same way as she is currently Head of State in independent nations such as Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

This would be the position for as long as the people of Scotland wished our country to remain a monarchy.

Speaking as an American, let me say that getting rid of the British monarchy has worked out exceptionally well for us.

Hopefully the Scottish people will make a similar decision sooner rather than later.

If Scotland does indeed end up voting for independence, it could give momentum to similar movements all over Europe.

Just this week, hundreds of thousands of Catalans took to the streets in Barcelona to demand the right to vote on independence from Spain…

Thousands of Catalans have rallied in Barcelona, Spain, demanding the right to hold a referendum on independence.

Participants, waving Catalan flags and wearing the flag’s red and yellow colours, stood in a V-shape formation, indicating their desire for a vote.

Protesters were energised by Scotland’s forthcoming independence referendum – and many also waved the Scottish flag.

The regional government has called a referendum for 9 November. The Spanish government says the vote is illegal.

Could we end up seeing a number of new nations emerging from the chaos that is about to engulf Europe?

This is clearly not what the establishment wants.  In fact, George Soros says that “this is the worst possible time” for Scottish independence.

That alone is a really good reason to vote yes.

Personally, I am rooting for the Scottish people on this one.  I truly hope that they are finally able to win their freedom.

The people of Scotland have been pushed around by the British for centuries.

Now they finally have a chance to stand up to the tyranny of London.

They finally have a chance to get free.

Let us hope that they take it.

Scottish Secession: Transition from Global to Local?

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Published on The Slog on September 10, 2014

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OPINION: The World is going local – and the Scots are merely a symptom of that

The reversion to nationalism is a staging post on the way back to living communities

Ed Miliband tweeted two hours ago to say ‘On the #indyref campaign trail today with the simple message: stay with us.’ He being a Suprastateist Socialist, it is highly significant that the Labour leader made a plea completely devoid of the one thing Scottish waverers would most like to know about voting No: why?

The Big State social democratic Left has always used communication in this way: pleas bordering on commands, with an enormous act of faith required to give any credence to the message. It produced slogans like ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’, ‘You know it makes sense’, and ‘I’m backing Britain’…but they all beg the same question: why?

All the Cameron/Miliband/Clegg trio can see is the need for immediate-term damage limitation. Such is the reaction of those who never grasp the payback of a longer-term view. And yet – even more depressing – there isn’t a glimmer anywhere in the UK Überbau right now of any insight asking “I wonder what’s really going on here?”

In the last 97 years, we have seen the formation of two suprastates, the collapse of a former global colonial power, and then collapse and distress in thosee suprastates. I refer time-respectively to the Soviet Union, the British Empire, the Soviet Union again – and now, the European Union.

When the British Empire dissolved itself after the Second World War, initial member delight at being free morphed rapidly into a deconstruction of the unreal entities created by the colonial power: India, Nigeria, and so on.

When the USSR collapsed, initial delight at being free morphed rapidly into a deconstruction of the unreal vassals nurtured by the Communists: Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and so on.

Now that the artificially joined United Kingdom’s collapse has spread from 1916 Eire to 2014 Caledonia, initial Scottish delight at being free will – I do not doubt – morph into the emergence of Cornwallian and Welsh claims….if the Welsh can successfully withdraw from their dependence culture.

And when the ramifications of a fascist Brussels, a crooked Frankfurt, globalist fanaticism and an egomaniacal Berlin finally sit too heavily one day on the three-legged chair called the European Union, its members too will rediscover the divisions within: Belgium, Spain, and so on.

But the trouble with short-term historical events is that (a) they don’t happen in an ordered way to neatly mirror a  long-term change, and (b) the leaders living through them – almost without exception – simply do not grasp WTF is going on. In such a context of unenvisaged change, those In Power jerk at the knee in order to protect the power they had hitherto imagined to be unassailable.

None of this has been made any easier by the emergence of an aggressive but anxious China, the post-USSR mafia-anarchy of Putin’s energy-obsessive Russia, the newly declining American energy-fixated commercial Empire, an AIDS-riddled Africa, and the rise of two religious throwbacks: one travelling chaotically under the title of Islamic Jihadism, and the other trading insidiously under the utterly false flag of capitalist neoliberalism.

But like the ill-fated Martin Luther King (albeit on a comparatively minute and obscenely privileged scale) I do have a dream. A hope that, in the fullness of time, all these tributaries of history will give way to a raging river of reaction: that is, the return of Homo sapiens to manageable pack sizes – and the realisation that family and community are respectively the building blocks and mortar of tranquil fulfilment and material progress.

I think that what we’re seeing at the moment is the second stage of an anti-globalist reaction…ironically made possible by the arrival of that very internet most people see as the secret agent of a horrible New World Order. For the internet makes it possible for a community in Hungary to seek out and give mutual satisfaction to a community in Dorset, Ohio, Queensland, Ossetia or the Yucatan peninsular.

The Bigwigs in Whitehall wish to present the #indyref in Scotland as a potential Sword of Damocles. It certainly does have two incredibly sharp edges: but it is no more than the kitchen knife inadvertantly cutting a finger in the preparation of truly sustaining (and sustainable) meals.

We have been sold political, economic, social, cultural and constitutional garbage for some 50 years. Whatever the Scots do in the end, their desire to go it alone is a symptom of change…and very probably, a catalyst for more of it.

Secession: Scotland to Texas to Alaska…and BEYOND!

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…The UK as an entity basically tracks the course of the Industrial Revolution, and as Industry grew, you got consolidations on every level, corporate consolidations and large monopolies forming, and Nation-States consolidating their hold over various territorial possessions which were the source of raw materials and food for the growing entities. The British Empire of the period was the most successful of these, but all the Europeans were at the game, the French and Germans too. You can think of each of these Nation-States as a large corporation with a Military arm for acquiring more resources.

They all were (and still are) in competition with each other both for acquiring control over resources as well as control over the monetary system used to distribute those resources. Although in times of “peace” the Elite in control of each of these places seem to work as a single monolithic entity, the reality is that they all are struggling to be in control over the greatest swath of the earth they can at any given time. The battle is ongoing even in times of peace on the financial level, but through the whole period from 1700 onward has been punctuated by NUMEROUS wars.

A Short List here of the Wars the UK has been involved in one way or the other for the last 300 years:

War of the Spanish Succession , American Revolutionary War , Seven Years’ War, The United Kingdom in the Napoleonic Wars , War of 1812 , Crimean War , Franco-Prussian War , American Civil War , History of the United Kingdom during World War I , Military history of the United Kingdom during World War II , The Troubles , Falkland Islands War

Not gonna detail all the rationales behind these wars or their timelines, but I will drop links down for them when I air this rant…

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Scottish Secession

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Why George Osborne desperately needs a No-Vote

Having saved the World in 2008, Gordon Brown is stepping in to save the UK in 2014. He is embarking, with full Government support, on a 30-stop tub thumping tour of Scotland to try and persuade his countrymen that they’re better off staying with the Cameron Highlanders. It’s a shrewd move by Number Ten: people will think, “if it wasn’t for the Union, we’d have this clown in our politics”. There should be a clear majority for the ‘No’ campaign come next Friday.

While encouraging their near neighbours to stay under the post-Glencoe Massacre yoke, the English themselves meanwhile are increasingly keen to break away from the European Union. With the Germans running economic strategy and the Italians in charge of the money, there are plenty of grounds for secession enthusiasm. But Camerlot continues to insist that we are better staying in so we can reform the EU from top to toe. When asked by Andrew Marr at the weekend what made him think this to be even possible let alone likely, the Chancellor George Osborne was forced to fall back on the fact that one of the many new EC Presidents is Polish, and they’ve said they’ll support us.

While I have no doubt that the gallant Poles will, as ever, poke their lances into the Berlin-am-Brussels tanks and give them a damn good thrashing with gleaming swords, The Draper is stretching even British gullibility to the limit with that one. But then, he has created a virtual economic recovery based on QE, banks and bollocks, and even Marr was referring casually to the economy as “in recovery”. The question is, whether the Great Treasury Three-Card Trick can hold until next May. The threats to George here are:

1. Rising interest rates and/or a UK banking failure

2. A stock market collapse

3. Somebody noticing that the manufacturing sector is no bigger than it was in 2010

4. The collapse of the eurozone as a market for British goods

5. The collapse of the World economy as a market for British goods

6. Scotland voting Yes to secession from the UK.

As a man who relishes having his bum a millimetre above the ocean waves in a Force 9 wind, this kind of thing is nothing new for Mr Osborne. What must be concerning some of his colleagues, however, is that all of the above now seem to be on the cards sooner or later.

As the Brits long ago lost the ability or inclination to add up, we can dismiss Number 3 there are most unlikely in the medium term. But Ossie has RBS, markets pumped up by QE, flatlining Europe and Italy talking openly of leaving the euro, the stuttering Chinese slowdown, and now an opinion poll so worrying that they’ve had to Mrs Brown out of the attic in order to scare the living crap out of the kilted ones.

Of these, I suspect a Scottish Yes vote is what Little Squeaky fears most. While Scotland ‘got’ £16.5bn more in UK public spending than it contributed to total UK revenues in 2009-10, this is no longer true, and the Chancellor knows it: Scotland now pays more in tax per head than the rest of the UK. Out of just under £560 billion of public spending in 2012-13, England accounts for £456bn – with just £54bn spent on the Scots.

In short, Scottish secession would give Camerlot a bigger austerity problem than the one they already have.

In the light of this, the Two Gentlemen of Downing Street have chosen big stick and fat carrot: no sharing the Pound under any circumstances, but far more Westminster investment in Scotland. There are three problems with this panicky response: a shrinkage in the Sterling Area may well play very badly for the Pound; investment in Scotland has traditionally been, beyond oil, something of a black hole; and such promises mean more spending, which will further create pressure on the Pound.

As I keep saying, a cheap Pound gives you a head start in exports….briefly. Then, when the time comes to buy the next round of raw materials and food, it bites you in the backside. Also a steep fall in the currency could set off a panic.

Slightly off the radar but also a possibility, Mr Osborne insisted on the Marr Show that we already spend 2% of gdp on defence – a level NATO demanded from all its members last week. This is true for 2013 (it was actually 2.3%) but not going forward: defence cuts by the Government and a rise in UK gdp mean that in 2014 we will spend 1.8% of it making weapons, and equipping the armed forces with technology that occasionally works.

It would take only a worsening Ukrainian situation and/or a Jihadist atrocity inside Britain to blow that way off course. Suddenly, George Osborne is going to have to find in the region of £125bn if he is to keep his word. As he tends to keep his word locked away and out of sight, this won’t cause the Chancellor any insomnia: but it will make him a sitting duck during an election campaign.

My own money is (literally) still on stock market collapses in the short-term and rising rates longer term: these – along with falling tax revenues during a slump – will eventually reduce our gdp and increase our borrowing costs. Then Britain will be revealed for what it really is: bankrupt, and 78% dependent on meaningless paper.

But in the immediate term, watch out for the shuffling of nervous bottoms at Westminster if the next Poll shows an increase in the Yes margin.

Secession

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About a month ago I wrote an article based on the Secessionary Movements in Spain by the Catalans and in the UK by the Scots called Panarchy & The One to The Many-The Final CountdownIn that article right at the beginning I made the comment that Secesssionary Movements like this had not yet gained much traction here in the FSofA, but of course that was a month ago and things are moving faster all the time in this spin down. My Lead for the article ran this way:

Although Secessionary Movements still appear to be a bit far off into the future here in the FSofA, this aspect of the Collapse has already hit over in Eurotrashland, most notably right now in Spain where the Catalans are making a lot of noise about splitting off from the Castillian control of Spain to form their own “new” country.

A month later, Secessionary talk is all over the MSM and the Whitehouse.gov website, in the form of Petitions filed by 19 different states to seceed from the FSofA.  In Texas, where becoming part of the Union was always a contentious idea to begin with, said Petition has ALREADY exceeded the 25,000 Signatures “required” for an Official Response from Obama-sama

From the Statesman.com website:

By Chuck Lindell

American-Statesman Staff

A petition calling for Texas to secede from the United States, created on a White House website designed to foster citizen involvement, became a minor Internet sensation this week as it grew by thousands, then tens of thousands, of signatures before spawning a counterprotest movement on the site.

Secession, the Texas petition said, would protect “the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government” and defend Texans from “blatant abuses to their rights” from the Transportation Security Administration and other agencies.

Petitions that receive 25,000 signatures within a month are forwarded to administration policy experts for an official response. The Texas petition, created Friday on the White House’s “We the People” site by an Arlington user identified only as “Micah H,” passed that threshold Monday and kept going, surging past 83,000 by Tuesday evening.

There is a certain amount of  “Gaming” going on here with these Petitions, at least two in a couple of different states were created by the same User, who clearly cannot be living in BOTH states at the same time.  Also, I don’t think there is any restriction on the website of a user who lives in say CA signing the petition for TX Secession.

Nevertheless, the Rules are clear here, and regardless who signs the Petition or where they live (could even be a Towel Head living in Tehran, actually), as long as said Petition gets 25K Signators inside a month, the White House is supposed to issue an “Official” response to it.  It certainly will be interesting to see exactly how Obama-sama’s Handlers and Speechwriters concoct a response to this, but overall you already know what the “official” line is, which is that Secession is Unconstitutional, Illegal and not in the “Best Interests” of the Amerikan Peoples.

Not going to try in this article to analyze 19 different states and their Secession petitions, I’ll just focus here on Texas, since that State is probably the most Secession Oriented here to begin with, plus it is Big Enough with its own set of Resources to in THEORY, POSSIBLY function as an Independent State.

Over on my old Haunt The Burning Platform, Jim Quinn recently dropped on an article asking the question Is Secession Possible, and said article has received commentary from BOTH sides of this question, some saying Secession is Unthinkable and Impossible, and others projecting out scenarios they consider possible and even more important, worthwhile as reasons to pursue Secession as a paradigm here.  Long time Commenter on TBP, Hope at Zero Kelvin dropped on the following scenario:

Here’s how Texas secedes:

1) All tax revenues due the federal government are diverted to the newly made Bank of Texas. The BOT has a 1 dollar capital rule and is backed by gold. All Medicare/SS/Medicaid rate schedules stay the same and are paid out from the BOT, not DC. The Univ of Texas gets their gold back from the HSBC toot sweet.

2) Texas raises a Militia of Texans, men & women, probably can get at least 1 million out of a population fo 22M. These work with the National Guard and Airforce in securing the oil/gas refineries and pipelines, the Strategic Oil Reserve, NASA, the Port of Houston, the nuclear plant, the electrical grid,and the major interstates. Martial law would have to be declared in the Blue counties to keep our FSA population in line.

3) No EBT cards will be honored and no Section 8 housing will have water/power within 48 hours of the declaration. Buses to a job site or to one of the borders will be provided for these people. Looters/rioters will be shot on sight.

4) All electrical transmission, all oil/gas pipelines are shut off at the western border of Texas, northern borders of OK/LA and the eastern border of LA. Service will only resume when new contracts are forged.

5) The commanders of Ft. Hood, Sam Houston and Bliss are given the option to join with the Texans or be escorted to the border. Since about 50% or more of the troops at these bases come from Texas, they face either cooperating or mutiny. Either way it neutralizes them as a threat.

6) The souther border will be sealed. Anyone attempting to cross illegally will be shot on sight. Illegal aliens will be given the chance to pay $20K and get a path to citizen ship (only for non-criminals) OR repatriate back to whereever they came from after liquidating all their property here an handing over 50% of the proceeds to the Bank of Texas.

7) In the event the Port of Houston or Galveston are blockaded, Texas will send all exports through Mexico, forcing the fed.gov to blockade even another sovereign country.

8) All federal properties in the Republic of Texas become our property, the workers are given a choice to stay and work as non-union civilian employees or be bused to the border (same treatment as the illegal aliens).

This is just off the top of my head, mind you, but I think I am on the right path.

Pretty clearly, if this set of actons is undertaken, Texas ends up at WAR with the rest of the FSofA that does NOT undertake Secession at the same time.  It really only has a moderate chance of success if it occurs in TANDEM with numerous other States seceeding with them , so that no Coordinated Response from the still functional FSofA Military could be organized up.  If Texas is set upon by Military Units formed up from all the rest of the States in the Union, they are of course TOAST.  So such an action has to wait until numeorus states all are looking to do this at the SAME TIME.

In time, that is likely to occur, much as it did for the Soviet Union.  As with most of these questions, it is about TIMELINES, how long does it take for each of these Individual States to become so unravelled and receiving no real Benefit from the Union that they will say NO MORE, and attempt the very difficult and dangerous road to Secession?

The difficulties any individual location faces in trying to break off from a greater Union are IMMENSE.  Really, the Battle here is on the Economic Level, not the Military one.  You can play all sorts of “War Games” projecting out how Secessionary Militias battle against Big Hardware from NATO, but you CANNOT make good predictions on how long the Militias have enough Ammo for their Ar-15s nor can you predict how long the Abrams Tanks will have GAS to keep rolling around the battlefield or the Apache Helicopter Gunships will have fuel to fly.  In a protracted battle along these lines, infrastructure for refining fuel will be destroyed, transport ships of all kinds will be scuttled, ammo of all sorts and calibers will become scarce, it just deteriorates to Mano-a-Mano eventually.

It is a War that cannot be won by either side really, so the real problems are the Economic ones for Secessionary states to handle once such a One-to-the-Many Secession Movement gains real Steam here.  Can you really call it a “Secession” though, when the reality is that the Union simply collapses as a result of its Conduits becoming dysfunctional or non-functional?

Besides the numerous infrastructure and distribution problems any given State or Region will have resultant either from Secession or Civil War, the major economic problem all face is how to replace the currency of the Dollar?  Obviously, if TX Seceeds from the Union, no Retired Texans will be able to collect their Social Security from the FSofA.  In all likelihood, any Texan with an account on the NYSE will have all of it Confiscated on account of Treason.  Whatever portion of the Gold in Fort Knox and in the Basement Safe of the NYFRB that is NOT Tungsten and might belong to Texas obviously will not be handed over to Texas after they Seceed.   They can kiss any Gold they don’t have inside Texas borders goodbye.

So, this basically leasves them with trying to establish a currency based on the Oil they have left, which might last just Texans a while but not if they start exporting it as a Trade good.  Not sure what other Trade goods Texas makes at a competitive price with what the Mejicanos across the border make, so then you work your way into being a self-contained, independent and self-sufficient economy.  Given the Drought problems Texas has experienced lately, as a self-sufficient economy for Food & Water, it is not real clear exactly how many people Texas has carrying capacity for by itself, even if it was allowed to Seceed.

Far from being “impossible” though as numerous commenters on the TBP Blog maintain, even if there is no “legal” means to effect a Secession by Petitions, eventually Da Federal Goobermint is going to be so dysfunctional that States or Regions will eventually start drifting off and the Power Vacuum gets filled by more Local Power Brokers and Warlords.  Eventually when the Dollar Fails, various Military Bases and Commanders will declare Martial Law in their localities, and form Defacto Military Dictatorships of these Regions.  Factions within the Military will vie for control, and there will be disputes between regions over shared resources like the water supply.  Eventually gas will become unavailable for the military to move around, and then these larger Regional groupings will go through another round of One-to-the-Many fracturing.

The Secessionary movements we are reading about here NOW are the political manifestation of people realizing that the large Nation-States they are a part of have ceased to function.  There is however no real “legal” means to Seceed from such Unions, just as the EU has no mechanism in place for countries like Greece and Spain to exit and reinstitute their own currencies.  The Consolidation phase  of Civilization has been underway since the beginnings of Agriculture, and always seen by the Illuminati as a One Way Street to a One World Order.  Sadly for them, they were wrong.  This is about as close as they got, and now that the Energy necessary to hold together such a complex system is diminishing in availabilility, this Consolidation Phase is coming to an end.

What will follow is anybody’s guess, but I GUARANTEE that it won’t be large Nation States, and the FSofA will pass into the Dustbin of History.  Industrial Civilization will go the way of the Dinosaur also, and then it will be the job of whoever is left at the end of this Final Countdown to build a Better Tomorrow.

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