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Re: ☠️ Extinction Rebellion: Plans Heathrow drone protest
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2019, 06:49:57 AM »
This will be a difficult action to pull off, now that it is known in advance what ER intends on doing.  These aren't ultra high tech military drones, they're likely typical consumer level drones.  Slow and basically sitting ducks in the air, you could take them out with decent rifle or shotgun like a flushed pheasant, but I doubt the "authorities" will set up that primitive.  They'll have ground level radar and probably low power lasers to use.  The on the ground controllers can't be that far away either, they are vulnerable to almost immediate arrest.

How many Extinction Rebels with enough money to at the very least sacrifice a fairly expensive drone and then also get charged with a pretty serious crime are out there?  If they put up 10 drones, they are done in a day, max.  100 drones, maybe 2 or 3 days.

Not a real good choice of theatrical protests, IMHO.

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Yep, you have made some very good points. I agree it is kinda "dumb". Not good for their powerful influence aim.

A better air transport protest I think would be to buy a bunch of low price tickets to get past security, and then disrupt the boarding process once inside the terminal.  That would be pretty cheap, and hard to stop.

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Re: ☠️ Extinction Rebellion: Plans Heathrow drone protest
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2019, 08:25:31 AM »
This will be a difficult action to pull off, now that it is known in advance what ER intends on doing.  These aren't ultra high tech military drones, they're likely typical consumer level drones.  Slow and basically sitting ducks in the air, you could take them out with decent rifle or shotgun like a flushed pheasant, but I doubt the "authorities" will set up that primitive.  They'll have ground level radar and probably low power lasers to use.  The on the ground controllers can't be that far away either, they are vulnerable to almost immediate arrest.

How many Extinction Rebels with enough money to at the very least sacrifice a fairly expensive drone and then also get charged with a pretty serious crime are out there?  If they put up 10 drones, they are done in a day, max.  100 drones, maybe 2 or 3 days.

Not a real good choice of theatrical protests, IMHO.

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Yep, you have made some very good points. I agree it is kinda "dumb". Not good for their powerful influence aim.

A better air transport protest I think would be to buy a bunch of low price tickets to get past security, and then disrupt the boarding process once inside the terminal.  That would be pretty cheap, and hard to stop.

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Re: ☠️ Extinction Rebellion: Plans Heathrow drone protest
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2019, 12:57:54 PM »
This will be a difficult action to pull off, now that it is known in advance what ER intends on doing.  These aren't ultra high tech military drones, they're likely typical consumer level drones.  Slow and basically sitting ducks in the air, you could take them out with decent rifle or shotgun like a flushed pheasant, but I doubt the "authorities" will set up that primitive.  They'll have ground level radar and probably low power lasers to use.  The on the ground controllers can't be that far away either, they are vulnerable to almost immediate arrest.

How many Extinction Rebels with enough money to at the very least sacrifice a fairly expensive drone and then also get charged with a pretty serious crime are out there?  If they put up 10 drones, they are done in a day, max.  100 drones, maybe 2 or 3 days.

Not a real good choice of theatrical protests, IMHO.

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Yep, you have made some very good points. I agree it is kinda "dumb". Not good for their powerful influence aim.

A better air transport protest I think would be to buy a bunch of low price tickets to get past security, and then disrupt the boarding process once inside the terminal.  That would be pretty cheap, and hard to stop.

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Re: ☠️ Extinction Rebellion: Plans Heathrow drone protest
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2019, 09:28:50 PM »
This will be a difficult action to pull off, now that it is known in advance what ER intends on doing.  These aren't ultra high tech military drones, they're likely typical consumer level drones.  Slow and basically sitting ducks in the air, you could take them out with decent rifle or shotgun like a flushed pheasant, but I doubt the "authorities" will set up that primitive.  They'll have ground level radar and probably low power lasers to use.  The on the ground controllers can't be that far away either, they are vulnerable to almost immediate arrest.

How many Extinction Rebels with enough money to at the very least sacrifice a fairly expensive drone and then also get charged with a pretty serious crime are out there?  If they put up 10 drones, they are done in a day, max.  100 drones, maybe 2 or 3 days.

Not a real good choice of theatrical protests, IMHO.

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Yep, you have made some very good points. I agree it is kinda "dumb". Not good for their powerful influence aim.

A better air transport protest I think would be to buy a bunch of low price tickets to get past security, and then disrupt the boarding process once inside the terminal.  That would be pretty cheap, and hard to stop.

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  If you sign up and watch the membership videos you can make you suggestion to to planning committee.

The Planning Committee can read the Diner.

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You have to attend local meetings too.  If there is not a chapter in your area you have to start one.  Follow their CoC be lawful and jail should not be an issue until news at 11 time.  I know about all this the same way I knew about the Heathrow protest a day before it was put up here on the Diner.  Membership has its privileges.  ;D
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Re: ☠️ Extinction Rebellion: Climate protesters block roads
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2019, 09:39:14 PM »
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Proposal to XR UK groups from Actions Strategy - Heathrow Pause: June 18th and the first two weeks of July 1st to 13th
Heathrow Action Proposal & Feedback Request for XR Movement

Proposal:

An Extinction Rebellion team has proposed an escalation and movement building action in the context of the widespread acceptance we are now in a climate and ecological emergency. This team has representatives from working groups across the Extinction Rebellion system, including the Actions, Media & Messaging, Wellbeing and Legal national working groups.

This plan is designed to ensure that the Heathrow Authorities close their airport for the whole of the 18th June and for up to 10 days from July 1st as a “pause” in recognition of the genocidal impact of the high carbon activities, such as flying, upon the next generation and the natural world.
The proposal is for rebels to visit the Department of Transport in the weeks before the action and submit letters asking for an immediate cancellation of Government’s Third Runway plans to honour parliament’s declaration of a climate emergency. If these demands are not met we will hold a planned picnic and drone session in the fields around Heathrow on June 18th having given full notice to the Heathrow Authorities of our intention to do so. If following this action on June 18th the government has still not taken immediate action, on July 1st, and for up to 10 days, rebels will use a variety of nonviolent tactics to pause the airport again including, but not limited to, the flying of drones and blocking of public roads leading into the airport.
Purpose:

- To ensure the Government begins to act on its declaration of a Climate and Environment emergency by cancelling Heathrow expansion.

- To build energy, momentum and support for the next major phase of the Rebellion in the Autumn.

- As part of Extinction Rebellion’s strategy, learning from the successes of previous civil disobedience movements which involved jail sentences.

- To create the opportunity for those whose conscience dictates they must risk their liberty to challenge the genocidal plans of governments who refuse to drastically cut carbon emissions

 - To state in court that in this country the law gives a right of necessity to engage in disruptive activities if they prevent far greater harm from occurring - as confirmed by the recent jury trial which found two Extinction Rebellion activists not guilty of criminal damage because their actions aimed to stop investment in fossil fuel companies.

Narrative:


The Government are betraying us. They have declared a Climate and Environment Emergency, yet are actively expanding the UK’s largest single source of carbon emissions.
We demand they act now on their promise.

This is not about individuals choosing to fly. This is about the Government promoting a practice which privileges a small percentage of society, whilst destroying the lives of future generations. There is no greater crime and we have a right and duty to that nonviolent direct action to prevent this catastrophe.

Action:

18th June has been suggested, as
(a) it is when there is a high number of business flights leaving Heathrow and in order to test this approach and
(b) to learn from it in order to maximise our impact during early July action. If we successfully shut down the airport on June 18th our threat to do so on July 1st will be taken more seriously and will have a greater effect.
(c) to give substantial notice for holiday makers to make changes

June 18th can offer 4 key action roles:
non-arrestable - people come and join a picnic with no tresspassing
low likelihood of arrest - people join a picnic in the fields in and around the drone flyers
chance of arrest with release (very low likelihood of remand) - people bring their drones to the picnic for a drone session with no intention of flying - they have no batteries and drones are used for show, comparison, frozbee replacements, etc.
chance of arrest and remand/prison - people bring drones and fly them to ensure no planes land or take-off
Early July action - this will be modified in response to the learning and feedback from June 18th.
At a minimum this could be 200 people engaged in blocking roads and transport links for a few days.
It could involve a sustained blocking tactics involving 1000-2000 people on a rota basis over the two weeks.
There could also be the option of people openly and peacefully flying drones.
The combination of the different tactical approaches would increase overall effectiveness.
The action would be called off before or during the action if the Government responds positively.
The degree to which Extinction Rebellion engages in imprisonable civil disobedience would depend on the people willing to be involved.
Considerations:


This action is designed to be wholly non-violent and peaceful. There would be no chance of flying drones while aeroplanes are in the air. Drone flights would start before the start of flights early in the morning and the authorities would have full knowledge of the intentions so they will have to close the airport. The whole action would be in the public sphere with the police, authorities and media fully aware of the plans. The tone of the whole event will be respectful of all concerned and promoted as an act of conscience and justified by the right of necessity to act to prevent massive harm.

Please collate and send your feedback in the box below, for consideration by the Action Project team to feed into the action strategy.

With love and rage.
Many thanks. 

Please send any questions to AGEStrategy@protonmail.com.

Please give your feedback on this proposal from Actions Strategy group here

https://actionnetwork.org/forms/heathrow-disruption-proposal-feedback
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Re: ☠️ Extinction Rebellion: Plans Heathrow drone protest
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2019, 12:22:08 AM »
This will be a difficult action to pull off, now that it is known in advance what ER intends on doing.  These aren't ultra high tech military drones, they're likely typical consumer level drones.  Slow and basically sitting ducks in the air, you could take them out with decent rifle or shotgun like a flushed pheasant, but I doubt the "authorities" will set up that primitive.  They'll have ground level radar and probably low power lasers to use.  The on the ground controllers can't be that far away either, they are vulnerable to almost immediate arrest.

How many Extinction Rebels with enough money to at the very least sacrifice a fairly expensive drone and then also get charged with a pretty serious crime are out there?  If they put up 10 drones, they are done in a day, max.  100 drones, maybe 2 or 3 days.

Not a real good choice of theatrical protests, IMHO.

RE

Yep, you have made some very good points. I agree it is kinda "dumb". Not good for their powerful influence aim.

A better air transport protest I think would be to buy a bunch of low price tickets to get past security, and then disrupt the boarding process once inside the terminal.  That would be pretty cheap, and hard to stop.

RE
  If you sign up and watch the membership videos you can make you suggestion to to planning committee.

The Planning Committee can read the Diner.

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You have to attend local meetings too.  If there is not a chapter in your area you have to start one.  Follow their CoC be lawful and jail should not be an issue until news at 11 time.  I know about all this the same way I knew about the Heathrow protest a day before it was put up here on the Diner.  Membership has its privileges.  ;D

I will let you and Knarf be the Point Men and Delegates to the Extinction Rebellion Movement.  I have enough to do running the Diner.

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It didn't even come close to erasing life on Earth.  Sulfur respirating anaerobes did just fine at the bottom of the ocean around sulfur vents and volcanoes.

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The 'Great Dying' Nearly Erased Life On Earth. Scientists See Similarities To Today
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An artist's rendering of the mass extinction of life that occurred toward the end of the Permian Period, about 250 million years ago.
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There was a time when life on Earth almost blinked out. The "Great Dying," the biggest extinction the planet has ever seen, happened some 250 million years ago and was largely caused by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Now scientists are beginning to see alarming similarities between the Great Dying and what's currently happening to our atmosphere.

Scientists are highlighting that similarity in a new exhibit at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C.

The new Deep Time exhibit in the David H. Koch Hall of Fossils at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C.
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The crown jewel of the Deep Time exhibit is the museum's first real Tyrannosaurus rex. Its skeleton stands over the bones of a prone triceratops, with one clawed foot holding down the hapless herbivore and jaws clamped onto its head, ready to take a bite the size of a manhole cover.

"We like to say, 'Come for the dinosaurs, stay for everything else,' " says Scott Wing, one of the curators.

The theme of the exhibit is actually the interconnectedness of life through geologic time. The exhibit shows, for example, how plants at the bottom of the food chain supported everything from insects to 20-ton apatosauruses and how insects helped shape the kind of forests that evolved and changed over millions of years.
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Wing likes that — he's a botanist. "I'm a photosynthesis chauvinist," he says. "The whole ecosystem is based on photosynthesis." And because life, from toadstools to tyrannosaurs, is connected from the bottom up, the whole fabric can disintegrate when something big happens to the Earth. And that happened due to global warming.

Scott Wing, research geologist and curator of paleobotany, in his office at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History.
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It's explained in the exhibit's section on the Great Dying. About 250 million years ago or so, an enormous volcanic field erupted in what is now Siberia. It spewed lava that burned though limestone and coal beds and filled the atmosphere with carbon dioxide and pollution, possibly for millions of years. That in turn warmed the planet, made the oceans acidic and robbed them of oxygen. More than 90% of species in the oceans died out as did two-thirds of those on land.

There have been other mass extinctions, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs about 65 million years ago, but this one, at the end of the Permian Period, was mostly caused by too much carbon dioxide rising into the atmosphere. And the Smithsonian notes often in its exhibit that the current warming of the planet is déjà vu all over again.

"We can learn from studying the past," Wing says. "They're also the processes that are being observed by Earth scientists today."

A portion of the Deep Time exhibit is dedicated to the mass extinction called the Great Dying. More than 90% of species in the oceans died out, as did two-thirds of those on land.
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One of them is Curtis Deutsch at the University of Washington, whose research helped inform the Smithsonian curators. "The very same things that caused the Great Dying are happening right now in our ocean today as a result of human activities," he says, "not to the same degree, but in the same direction."

Currently, the planet has warmed to almost 2 degrees Fahrenheit on average above what it was before the Industrial Revolution, though at the current rate it could warm several degrees more. The Great Dying saw a warming increase of four or five times that.

But it happened gradually. So Deutsch thought, Why not re-create the hothouse of the Great Dying in a computer, a model that simulates the warming, and see how present-day species in the ocean would fare? He could crank up the carbon dioxide — that would in turn raise temperatures and lower oxygen in the oceans. Then he could watch as parts of the ocean started to become deadly.

"The first thing that happens is that you start to see a local loss of species as they begin to move in response to the climate heating up," he says.

But some parts of the planet were more forgiving. "We discovered something that was kind of surprising and new, I think," Deutsch explains, "and that is that extinction was very strong everywhere, but it was even stronger near the cold parts of Earth, near the polar oceans, than it was in the warmer tropical oceans."

It makes sense, he says. Animals that live near the equator can migrate toward the poles to find cooler water, but those that already live in cold, oxygen-rich waters nearer the poles have very little room to run.

Deutsch says the experiment is a window on the future — even the present: Marine species are already migrating. And to Deutsch, that migration looks familiar. "We see responses of marine species to those changes today that look like what we think happened at the end of the Permian," he says.

The Smithsonian exhibit makes explicit references to the threat from human-caused climate change; it also received funding from industrialist David Koch, who is known for supporting groups that contest the scientific consensus on climate change.

Wing, the curator, says making the connection between the Great Dying and what's happening now is a message that needs to be heard. "We have exceeded the frame of our own history," he says of the human race. "Because we are so powerful, we are basically a geologic force now as well as a human force."

A force that's changing the conditions for life on the planet.
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Welcome to our 23rd newsletter!

Yes, you read that subject right. Faced with a ransom from hackers, the legendary rock band instead opted for rebellion, releasing 18 hours of unheard material in an album online and donating the proceeds to Extinction Rebellion. (!)

Needless to say we’re very grateful. No industry, sphere or genre is exempt from the threat of extinction. With this generous gesture, Radiohead have made clear that artists have as much a role to play as anyone.


Radiohead releases ‘MINIDISKS [HACKED]’: ‘my archived mini discs from 1995-1998(?)…if you want it, you can buy the whole lot here/18 minidisks for £18/the proceeds will go to Extinction Rebellion’

Artistic or not, it’s a good time to be joining XR: Theresa May has just committed the UK to carbon neutrality by 2050. She may as well have painted ‘Protest Works’ on the face of Big Ben, but doing so wouldn’t have made the point any better than this YouGov poll. Other indicators of a turning tide come in all shapes and sizes: from the Portugese government to Auckland to Finland; from the University of East Anglia to architects to their students and back to their politicians (see XR Politics, below). Well done to us and our allies.

It’s a doubly good time to be joining XR because, even as the news is better than ever, the news is also worse than ever. Feedback loops are running faster than feared, India faces a serious drought, and police forces are making repressive noises from England to Australia to Austria (see Latest News, below). Civilisation itself is not only at stake, but at serious, near-term risk. In a context like this, Theresa May’s target for carbon neutrality is a positive but utterly inadequate step.

Fortunately, with civil disobedience proving so clearly effective, the solution is clear: more civil disobedience. And we’ve got plenty of that in the proverbial pipeline.

Rebels from across Europe and beyond convened last week in Lollar, conferring at length to harmonise structures and plans for Autumn’s Rebellion. We don’t publish rumours here, but the rumours we have heard are exciting…

And speaking of publication, another project looking to scale the rebellion is the launch of This is Not a Drill: An Extinction Rebellion Handbook. With enough arguments and advice to turn the most obstinate optimists into hardline activists, we hope this rare exception to our rule of not selling things will be warranted by a fresh-faced, bookish tide of new rebels.

From books to books of letters. Rebels after something shorter to read will no doubt be pleased and quite possibly moved by a booklet of Love Letters for Rebels and Arrestees. And speaking of letters, many of those same arrestees have recently received communications from the police which, while not exactly ‘love letters’, are inviting the recipients to optional interviews – if that’s you, please read this message from XR Legal.

Our wonderful legal and regen teams aren’t the only ones taking care of rebels. A new initiative for Rebel Housing is hoping to provide accommodation across the UK, freeing up conscientious protectors to do more protection and less worrying about rent. In a similar vein, the newly-established and already-excelling logistics/spaces group have announced a decision for a new London space, replacing the previous office which national working groups vacated last week.

All of which builds to a picture of extensive and diligent preparation for the Autumn Rebellion. But, like the ecological emergency itself, it’s not all future tense.

In the past few days, conscientious protectors have been all over BP like a slick, oily coat. On Monday night, ‘BP or not BP’ mounted an artistic blockade at the ‘BP Portrait Award’, to greatly disruptive success. At the same time, Greenpeace, following up on a blockade of their own a few weeks before, were sending a second pair of dauntless activists to board (and thereby detain) an oilrig off the Scottish coast. The following night, XR got involved, protesting a BP-sponsored screening at the Royal Opera House, having laid down our nonviolent gauntlet in the national press. Our collective pressure has been joined by artists including the Portrait Award’s own judge (who says XR “woke me up”).

Moving to another corporation, XR’s BBC Tell The Truth Campaign can celebrate a substantial step forward, with the news that they’re due to meet senior staff for a discussion of climate and ecological coverage. Not that this team is resting on its laurels, coming from an action at The Guardian last week (see Local Contributions) and with an action planned for July calling for newspapers to tell the truth on climate, and which they hope will be taken up by XR UK’s redoubtable regional network, as was done to great effect in December.

Last but not least, XR itself has not only made the news but been the news, with speculation and debate taking off over a proposal to create a pause at Heathrow Airport using drones. Headlines have predictably exaggerated the response, but there’s no question the proposal has provoked serious debate in the XR UK community – concerning not just the proposal itself, but the process by which such ideas either are or are not taken forwards.

New and evolving as we are, it’s no surprise the XR organism is collectively contemplating questions like these. Given the scale of this structure (we’re about to reach our 100,000th UK member!), and the platforms involved, it can’t always be easy to tell – but rest assured we are listening to feedback across all of our channels. We’ll be giving an update tomorrow about the proposal – you’ll find this on our website.

Whatever the future may hold, it’s clear that we must face it together. With heartwarming actions from XR Scotland and Germany, vivacious vibes from XR Bristol, and the familiar, overwhelming litany of local and global actions this week, and more future plans than you could shake an egg-timer at, there’s surely never been a better time to be a rebel.

We hope we do Radiohead proud.

If you’d like to learn more about how you can help, please check out our guide.

To connect to rebels in your local area, get in touch with your nearest XR group. If there’s no active group near you, you can start your own! Stay up to date with local upcoming events here, or start your own event by filling in our talks and trainings form!

If you can’t spare time, but can donate money instead, please see our fundraiser page.

If you’d like to help us organise on a national level, we could use your skills in all sorts of areas from writing to tech to ideas to logistics. To join the effort enroll in ‘XR University’, a buddy scheme for integrating new rebels into the ranks (though please note this scheme for now only serves the UK).

If you’re new, or haven’t fully got to grips with everything XR, have a read of this to get to know our history and the principles and values that guide our work.

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