AuthorTopic: Alone In The Past - Surviving 240 days in 10th century conditions (video 1hr)  (Read 82 times)

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Looks interesting. I just browsed. I'll have to watch it in full on someone else's hi speed!  Notice the iron tools ;D
This video came up after and I found this fascinating. A russian 70 year old living alone in the woods her family having fled Stalin. It is closer to my post collapse view. lots of more modern elements mixed with 19th century subsistence.
https://youtu.be/BFK3DJ7Kn6s This one is british and kind of depressing
https://youtu.be/tt2AYafET68  This one is from vice
« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 07:22:52 PM by David B. »
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Looks interesting. I just browsed. I'll have to watch it in full on someone else's hi speed!  Notice the iron tools ;D
This video came up after and I found this fascinating. A russian 70 year old living alone in the woods her family having fled Stalin. It is closer to my post collapse view. lots of more modern elements mixed with 19th century subsistence.
https://youtu.be/BFK3DJ7Kn6s This one is british and kind of depressing
https://youtu.be/tt2AYafET68  This one is from vice

If you have slow downloads, convert it to an mp4 and set your computer to download it overnight.  Then you can watch it offline too.

Use this online tool to convert the video then download from there when it is complete:

http://convert2mp3.net/en/index.php

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nope. download speeds are great its the cost of bandwidth. All high speed around here runs off the cel towers unless you are in the towns which have fiber. I do my heavy usage at the library, my inlaws, or at 3 or 4 hotspots around here.
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nope. download speeds are great its the cost of bandwidth. All high speed around here runs off the cel towers unless you are in the towns which have fiber. I do my heavy usage at the library, my inlaws, or at 3 or 4 hotspots around here.

Ah.  In that case, do the same thing at the library off their wifi.  In that case you can download the whole file in around 5 minutes.  Then watch at home at your leisure.

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yup that is the local way. I like the link to the download site; very easy. Bad access here it is due to density and terrain. Not enough people to make fiber viable and too many rocky hills to make it economical for smaller line of site type internet providers. So you are stuck with the big boys and they ream you. All the community centres have free wifi. Lots of locals in cars in parking lots surfing.
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I watched through the whole video.  Without trying to be a Spoiler, let me make a few observations.

First off, there is no way he was completely alone for the 240 days.  Although he did selfie videos with a tripod, there were scenes obviously shot by a camera crew/professional videographer.  If he ever REALLY got in trouble, like a broken leg or something, I'm sure they would have pulled him out of there.  I don't think he was ever in any real danger.

Second, his whole cabin arrangement was clearly built by professionals, although in building it they did try to stay true to 10th century building techniques.  It's also a pretty damn huge compound, to build all that alone would take years. especially if you didn't have heavy equipment to move and lift the logs.  So he personally is not a primitive technology living specialist like the dude who makes the vids in northern Oz.  He was more of a Guinea Pig to see how a modern industrially raised Homo Sap would fare under these conditions for an extended period.

In terms of realism, it would have been much more realistic if they set up a small Village for around 50 people, because that is how people really lived back then, they were not for the most part hermits living alone.  However, the cost of that was probably beyond the budget for the project.

Then, as he mentions at the beginning, he started with enough food supplies laid in he really didn't have to go out seeking food through the winter.  His main issues were dealing with cabin fever and being alone to do many tasks, which again would not be true in a real village situation where there are friends & relatives to help you if you get sick or something breaks and needs to be fixed.

All that being said, he makes some very interesting observations at the end of the experiment regarding the differing ways you THINK when living this way versus the way people of our own time period think.  He also makes a hypothesis on how long it would take for current Homo Sap to return to this type of behavior after collapse.  I will save discussion of that until after some other Diners have viewed the video.

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