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Norfolk's Very Own Darwin Award Nominee
« on: February 21, 2018, 07:20:21 AM »
Out of gas and drunk on the Chesapeake Bay, he made a false distress call.

Now he's going to prison.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Meredith Manning | U.S. Coast Guard

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NORFOLK

 

With his boat dead in the water, Justin Stahmer took to his radio in 2016 to broadcast a distress signal.

But he didn’t say he was drunk and out of gas in the Chesapeake Bay. He didn’t say much of anything. Just “man overboard,” according to court documents.

In response, the Coast Guard sent a 45-foot rescue boat, an 87-foot cutter and a Sikorsky HH-60 helicopter into the dark of night to search for an endangered boater who never existed.

Stahmer, 39, of Newport News, was sentenced Tuesday to more than four years in federal prison. He also was ordered to pay $56,704 in restitution.

A jury convicted Stahmer last year in U.S. District Court in Norfolk of making a false distress call and threatening a Coast Guardsman who came to help.

According to court documents, the charges stemmed from a June 20, 2016, incident. Stahmer was on a boat several miles northeast of Cape Henry when he used the International Distress Frequency to report a man overboard, despite being alone on his boat.

The Coast Guard launched a large-scale search while also hailing Stahmer for more than 45 minutes in hopes of garnering more information. None came.

When located, Stahmer initially denied making any distress call. Later, he said he called the Coast Guard because he had run out of gas.

When Coast Guardsmen boarded Stahmer’s vessel, he became belligerent. They called the Virginia Marine Resource Commission Police, who arrested Stahmer for boating under the influence of alcohol.

While being transported back to shore, Stahmer kicked and threatened one of the boarding officers, who is black. In between racial slurs, Stahmer said he would “take him out” if he ever saw him again, according to court documents.

Prosecutors said Stahmer also threatened to get the “Buckroe Boys” to take care of the officer. The officer said he knew the Buckroe Boys to be a race-based hate group connected with the Buckroe area of Hampton, but Assistant Federal Public Defender Keith Kimball questioned that allegation. He said he could find no law enforcement or media reports about such a group and dismissed much of what his client said that night as “drunken gibberish.”

Prosecutors argued Tuesday for a sentence of six years, while Kimball asked for three months time served and some house arrest. The judge imposed four years and eight months.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Kosky noted Stahmer has an extensive record of disorderly behavior, but has “never once, not in almost 20 years, received a meaningful sentence.”

“Overall, the defendant’s history suggests that he is a person coping with unchecked anger and aggression,” he said. “His constant quarrels with law enforcement officers and alcohol-related bar fights demonstrate his inability to moderate his anger and function in society.”

Kimball said his client is an alcoholic in need of help. He said Stahmer had managed to stay away from alcohol for several years, but a few weeks before the incident on the boat had found a friend dead from an apparent heroin overdose.

The jury that convicted Stahmer also acquitted him of a second count of making a false distress call. Kimball said Stahmer also broadcast a “mayday” before he was located. He argued that was legal because his client was out of gas, in a boat without lights, near the shipping channel.

Scott Daugherty, 757-446-2343, scott.daugherty@pilotonline.com

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Re: Norfolk's Very Own Darwin Award Nominee
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 07:55:05 AM »
Out of gas and drunk on the Chesapeake Bay, he made a false distress call.

Now he's going to prison.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Meredith Manning | U.S. Coast Guard

A U.S. Coast Guard photo.

NORFOLK

With his boat dead in the water, Justin Stahmer took to his radio in 2016 to broadcast a distress signal.

But he didn’t say he was drunk and out of gas in the Chesapeake Bay. He didn’t say much of anything. Just “man overboard,” according to court documents.

In response, the Coast Guard sent a 45-foot rescue boat, an 87-foot cutter and a Sikorsky HH-60 helicopter into the dark of night to search for an endangered boater who never existed.

Stahmer, 39, of Newport News, was sentenced Tuesday to more than four years in federal prison. He also was ordered to pay $56,704 in restitution.

A jury convicted Stahmer last year in U.S. District Court in Norfolk of making a false distress call and threatening a Coast Guardsman who came to help.

According to court documents, the charges stemmed from a June 20, 2016, incident. Stahmer was on a boat several miles northeast of Cape Henry when he used the International Distress Frequency to report a man overboard, despite being alone on his boat.

The Coast Guard launched a large-scale search while also hailing Stahmer for more than 45 minutes in hopes of garnering more information. None came.

When located, Stahmer initially denied making any distress call. Later, he said he called the Coast Guard because he had run out of gas.

When Coast Guardsmen boarded Stahmer’s vessel, he became belligerent. They called the Virginia Marine Resource Commission Police, who arrested Stahmer for boating under the influence of alcohol.

While being transported back to shore, Stahmer kicked and threatened one of the boarding officers, who is black. In between racial slurs, Stahmer said he would “take him out” if he ever saw him again, according to court documents.

Prosecutors said Stahmer also threatened to get the “Buckroe Boys” to take care of the officer. The officer said he knew the Buckroe Boys to be a race-based hate group connected with the Buckroe area of Hampton, but Assistant Federal Public Defender Keith Kimball questioned that allegation. He said he could find no law enforcement or media reports about such a group and dismissed much of what his client said that night as “drunken gibberish.”

Prosecutors argued Tuesday for a sentence of six years, while Kimball asked for three months time served and some house arrest. The judge imposed four years and eight months.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Kosky noted Stahmer has an extensive record of disorderly behavior, but has “never once, not in almost 20 years, received a meaningful sentence.”

“Overall, the defendant’s history suggests that he is a person coping with unchecked anger and aggression,” he said. “His constant quarrels with law enforcement officers and alcohol-related bar fights demonstrate his inability to moderate his anger and function in society.”

Kimball said his client is an alcoholic in need of help. He said Stahmer had managed to stay away from alcohol for several years, but a few weeks before the incident on the boat had found a friend dead from an apparent heroin overdose.

The jury that convicted Stahmer also acquitted him of a second count of making a false distress call. Kimball said Stahmer also broadcast a “mayday” before he was located. He argued that was legal because his client was out of gas, in a boat without lights, near the shipping channel.

Scott Daugherty, 757-446-2343, scott.daugherty@pilotonline.com


Most old boat bums are serious alcoholics. The Buckroe Boys, huh?  LOL. You know them, Surly?

Makes the case for towing insurance. It doesn't cost much.
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Re: Norfolk's Very Own Darwin Award Nominee
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 07:26:39 AM »
Out of gas and drunk on the Chesapeake Bay, he made a false distress call.


Most old boat bums are serious alcoholics. The Buckroe Boys, huh?  LOL. You know them, Surly?

Makes the case for towing insurance. It doesn't cost much.

No, Eddie. I wouldn't know the Buckroe Boys from the Backstreet Boys. But I'd bet you a beer there's not an over 100 IQ in the bunch.

Your point about towing insurance is well made. Back in my sailing days, we got stuck on a shoal (interestingly, somewhere off Buckroe) in a flat in the Bay that was not marked. Called a marine tow. That was $1000, (and this was in the early 90s) because towing insurance had never occurred to us.

My dumb ass.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 08:44:00 AM »
Out of gas and drunk on the Chesapeake Bay, he made a false distress call.


Most old boat bums are serious alcoholics. The Buckroe Boys, huh?  LOL. You know them, Surly?

Makes the case for towing insurance. It doesn't cost much.

No, Eddie. I wouldn't know the Buckroe Boys from the Backstreet Boys. But I'd bet you a beer there's not an over 100 IQ in the bunch.

Your point about towing insurance is well made. Back in my sailing days, we got stuck on a shoal (interestingly, somewhere off Buckroe) in a flat in the Bay that was not marked. Called a marine tow. That was $1000, (and this was in the early 90s) because towing insurance had never occurred to us.

My dumb ass.

How many times did this occur to you over how long a period of time, and what is the monthly cost of towing insurance?

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Re: Norfolk's Very Own Darwin Award Nominee
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2018, 08:50:33 AM »
How many times did this occur to you over how long a period of time, and what is the monthly cost of towing insurance?

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Just the once. As to cost, I have no idea.

What was interesting was that the shoal was pretty far out from the shoreline. Of course, a lot of sand moves around in the bay, especially via storms.

Expensive lesson.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 08:56:54 AM »
How many times did this occur to you over how long a period of time, and what is the monthly cost of towing insurance?

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Just the once. As to cost, I have no idea.

What was interesting was that the shoal was pretty far out from the shoreline. Of course, a lot of sand moves around in the bay, especially via storms.

Expensive lesson.

You probably did better just paying the one time fee then.  If insurance costs $50/month, you would have spent over $1000 in less than 2 years.

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Re: Norfolk's Very Own Darwin Award Nominee
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 09:02:21 AM »
How many times did this occur to you over how long a period of time, and what is the monthly cost of towing insurance?

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Just the once. As to cost, I have no idea.

What was interesting was that the shoal was pretty far out from the shoreline. Of course, a lot of sand moves around in the bay, especially via storms.

Expensive lesson.

You probably did better just paying the one time fee then.  If insurance costs $50/month, you would have spent over $1000 in less than 2 years.

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I wondered. So I looked it up:
http://www.boatus.com/towing/gettowing/services.asp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiI6gpIO_2QIVjpJ-Ch1GOgrDEAAYAiAAEgLcnvD_BwE

$175/yr. for the top package. So much cheaper thanI would have thought, and even cheaper in 1990 dollars.

Who knew? Probably Eddie.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 09:08:56 AM »
How many times did this occur to you over how long a period of time, and what is the monthly cost of towing insurance?

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Just the once. As to cost, I have no idea.

What was interesting was that the shoal was pretty far out from the shoreline. Of course, a lot of sand moves around in the bay, especially via storms.

Expensive lesson.

You probably did better just paying the one time fee then.  If insurance costs $50/month, you would have spent over $1000 in less than 2 years.

RE

I wondered. So I looked it up:
http://www.boatus.com/towing/gettowing/services.asp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiI6gpIO_2QIVjpJ-Ch1GOgrDEAAYAiAAEgLcnvD_BwE

$175/yr. for the top package. So much cheaper thanI would have thought, and even cheaper in 1990 dollars.

Who knew? Probably Eddie.

Oh yea, at that price the insurance definitely is better.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2018, 02:14:24 PM »
Not sailing your boat into very shallow water would be better than relying on a piece of paper to have you rescued when you fuck up.  Skippers are supposed to TAKE CARE in coastal waters, not treat the sea like a city street.
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Re: Norfolk's Very Own Darwin Award Nominee
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2018, 05:49:28 PM »
Not sailing your boat into very shallow water would be better than relying on a piece of paper to have you rescued when you fuck up.  Skippers are supposed to TAKE CARE in coastal waters, not treat the sea like a city street.


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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 06:32:31 PM »
In the Chesapeake Bay, and also down in the Gulf, the bays are really shallow and there are lots of spoils, some of which aren't charted. For recreational sailors tow insurance makes at least as much sense as paying AAA to have tow coverage for your car. It pays for itself pretty quickly.

However, that old drunk was asking for it by calling in a false "man overboard". If he'd just got on the radio and asked for help and been honest, the Coast Guard would have probably sent help and not charged him a dime. He might have gotten a DUI though.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 07:46:01 PM »
He should have gotten himself some "Fake Man Overboard Penalty" insurance.  It would pay for itself pretty quickly, especially if he did it often.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 08:21:55 PM »
Are you being deliberately offensive? Because it looks that way to me, and I'm not sure what I did to incur your wrath. It's morning there, right? Are you hung over? 
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Darwin Award Nominee - Flat Earth Tards in Space....
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2018, 03:25:21 PM »
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I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2018, 10:32:35 PM »
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This is silly... you don't need a rocket to prove the Earth is flat.  Just take a globe, or even a beach ball, and pour water on it.  See?  It runs right off.  If the Earth weren't flat, there couldn't be any oceans.

The mistake everyone makes is confusing "flat" with "planar".  "Flat" = perpendicular to the force of gravity, which the Earth's surface is, for the most part, with some local variations.  To give an idea of how minor the variations are, if you drew the Earth as an 8" circle, the distance between the highest mountain peak and the deepest ocean trench would be less than the width of the pencil line.

As Einstein's General Theory of Relativity tells us, the Earth is flat, it's space that is curved.
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