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Putin boasts new strategic weapons will make US missile defense “useless”

                                   
Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federal Assembly at Moscow's Manezh exhibition centre on March 01, 2018. He announced a plethora of new strategic weapons that challenge the US' ballistic missile defenses.


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Putin boasts new strategic weapons will make US missile defense “useless”
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Nuke-powered cruise missile and torpedo, hypersonic missiles counter US ballistic missile defense.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federal Assembly at Moscow's Manezh exhibition centre on March 01, 2018. He announced a plethora of new strategic weapons that challenge the US' ballistic missile defenses.

In his State of the Nation speech today, Russian President Vladimir Putin showed computer animations and videos demonstrating three new classes of strategic weapons under development that are specifically intended to defeat the United States' ballistic missile defenses. Among them were two weapons powered by miniaturized nuclear reactors: a drone submarine "torpedo" previously revealed in a Russian news leak and a cruise "missile" drone with what Putin described as a virtually unlimited range. The third was a new non-ballistic, hypersonic ICBM capable of evading US missile interceptors.

The weapons, Putin said, were a direct response to the US' withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and its continued development of ballistic missile defenses—which the Russian government has argued undermine the strategic deterrent value of Russia's existing nuclear force. "No one has listened to us," said Putin. "Listen to us now."
A little something extra for the fallout
Putin reveals the submarine drone torpedo, officially.
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Putin reveals the submarine drone torpedo, officially.

Putin claimed that the cruise missile's miniaturized nuclear power plant had been successfully tested last fall and that, when built, the weapon would have a "practically unlimited" range. An animation showed a computer-generated image of the weapon flying close to the ground, following terrain contours, flying over mountains, and out to sea, avoiding seaborne air defense radars on its way to a virtual target. A similar animation showed nuclear-powered torpedoes launched from a submarine, traveling "intercontinental" distances, and striking a US aircraft carrier and exploding near a shore facility. This was the first official public announcement of both weapons.

Flying reactors have been attempted in the past, but for obvious reasons they've never been deployed—while it has been demonstrated that a nuclear reactor could effectively power a turboprop or turbojet engine, the risk and cost of a flying nuclear aircraft are prohibitive, to say the least. Then there's the weight of the reactor (plus shielding to protect crew from dying before getting to a target, in the case of nuclear aircraft) and the accompanying loss of payload capacity. Russia conducted airborne reactor tests in the 1960s with the Tupolev Tu-119 "Nuclear Flying Laboratory" but abandoned development. The US tested airborne reactors and developed nuclear aircraft engines in the 1950s―including a nuclear ramjet engine for the Supersonic Low Altitude Missile (SLAM) that was tested on the ground but never flew.

Putin claimed the reactors used in the sub-drone and cruise missile were 1/100th the size of current nuclear sub reactors. That's still a fairly massive piece of hardware to put in a torpedo or cruise missile.
But wait, that’s not all

The third weapon, called Avangard, is a hypersonic maneuverable re-entry vehicle (MARV), described by Putin as being capable of high-speed radical evasive maneuvers while in flight and of delivering its warheads at over 20 times the speed of sound. It would strike, Putin said, "like a meteorite, like a fireball."   :-\

The Avangard is probably what has previously been called "Objekt 4202," also known as the YU-71, or the Aeroballistic Hypersonic Warhead. Unlike a traditional ICBM, the Avangard would get its boost from the new massive Sarmat ballistic missile and then skip along the top of the edge of the Earth's atmosphere under its own control and could maneuver around potential intercept points using its control surfaces as well as ramjet engines. It would be launched aboard a ballistic missile―the new Sarmat missile, now in testing, has enough range that it could be routed over the South Pole from Russia and strike targets in the US. A video for the Sarmat showed warheads from a missile launched on such a route falling over Florida—presumably targeting Mar-a-Lago.

The Sarmat itself is nearly ready for deployment. The ICBM is part of Russia's broad modernization of its nuclear forces, a modernization that hasn't just focused on weapons capable of striking the US. And so is another weapon Putin mentioned, the "Dagger:" an air-launched, tactical, nuclear-capable weapon intended to strike targets such as US Navy aircraft carriers while flying at Mach 10 to evade air defense systems on accompanying Aegis destroyers.

Some of Russia's modernization steps have skirted or potentially outright violated a different treaty with the US: the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty signed by the Soviet Union and United States in 1987. Russia has built new nuclear-capable land-based cruise missile systems that the US argues are in violation of INF. And over the past five years, as part of its rapid modernization, the Russian Navy has expanded its strategic capabilities, including one that's essentially a thumbing of the nose at the INF's fine print.

In addition to new Borey-A ballistic missile submarines, Russia has built the Buyan-M class of "missile corvettes," small ships that can carry nuclear cruise missiles. The Buyan-M is small enough that it is capable of launching missiles not just at sea, but inland from Russia's rivers or the Moscow Canal system, allowing a dodge around the terms of the INF Treaty.
A Buyan-M class corvette.

A Buyan-M class corvette.

According to a recent interview with Russian Navy Chief Admiral Vladimir Korolev in the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star), there are five Borey-A ballistic missile submarines in various stages of construction right now, in addition to three that were built within the last five years. And six Yasen-class submarines capable of carrying up to 40 land-attack cruise missiles are also under construction.
The nuclear-powered cruise missile gap

The US government and the Department of Defense's Missile Defense Agency have argued that the ballistic missile defenses the US has built in Europe (in the form of Aegis Ashore), at sea (aboard Aegis-equipped guided missile destroyers and cruisers), and at home (the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) interceptor) are really focused on countries such as Iran and North Korea—and not Russia or China.

But both Russia and China have objected heavily to US missile defense programs as they've crept closer to their respective homelands. And Russia's response, in a purely nuclear deterrence game theory way, is somewhat rational: if the US government felt that it could shoot down at least some inbound missiles from Russia, a certain US leader might become emboldened and believe that a nuclear war was winnable.

However, Russia's nuclear cruise and torpedo weapons are, from an arms control standpoint, not exactly deterrent-focused weapons. They're potentially first-strike weapons, capable of evading detection until the moment they strike. As fast as they are, they require long transit times and could be conceivably deployed in "loiter" mode, hanging out somewhere on station while simply awaiting a signal to strike.

As far as the Avangard goes, Russia is not alone. The US and China also have hypersonic weapons in development. China has been testing its Hypersonic Glide Vehicle since 2014, and the Chinese military has called it a "carrier killer" accurate enough to strike a ship at sea.

The US has focused on conventional (non-nuclear) hypersonic weapons. DARPA and Lockheed Martin had been developing the Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 (HTV-2), to meet the US Strategic Command's desire for a "Prompt Global Strike" capability—a way for the US to hit targets anywhere in the world within one hour. That program ended in 2014, with no further development planned. An Army program, the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon, was more successful and is still in development.



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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2018, 07:54:01 AM »
US is getting very aggressive towards Europe over Russian's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, which eliminates Ukraine's transit fees. Taking on Germany and the European oil majors with their LNG at twice the price of Russian gas.

https://www.rt.com/business/428651-us-nord-stream-firms-sanctions/
US about to slap disobedient European firms with sanctions over Russian gas project
4 Jun, 2018

The White House is on the verge of introducing penalties against companies engaged in the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, which will deliver Russian natural gas to the EU across the Baltic Sea.
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The project was strongly opposed by some European states, including Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic countries. The US has also slammed the pipeline, claiming the project undermines energy security both in Europe and the US.

This action fits hand in glove with the effort to build LNG pipelines in the US, including one through the George Washington National Forest to SE Virginia. This action is vigorously opposed by enviros. This pipeline is almost certainly to provide LNG for export, no matter how vigorously the energy whores tout "clean energy" and "jobs."

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Putin boasts new strategic weapons will make US missile defense “useless”

                                   
Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federal Assembly at Moscow's Manezh exhibition centre on March 01, 2018. He announced a plethora of new strategic weapons that challenge the US' ballistic missile defenses.


arstechnica.com
Putin boasts new strategic weapons will make US missile defense “useless”
Sean Gallagher - 3/1/2018, 6:30 PM

Nuke-powered cruise missile and torpedo, hypersonic missiles counter US ballistic missile defense.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federal Assembly at Moscow's Manezh exhibition centre on March 01, 2018. He announced a plethora of new strategic weapons that challenge the US' ballistic missile defenses.

In his State of the Nation speech today, Russian President Vladimir Putin showed computer animations and videos demonstrating three new classes of strategic weapons under development that are specifically intended to defeat the United States' ballistic missile defenses. Among them were two weapons powered by miniaturized nuclear reactors: a drone submarine "torpedo" previously revealed in a Russian news leak and a cruise "missile" drone with what Putin described as a virtually unlimited range. The third was a new non-ballistic, hypersonic ICBM capable of evading US missile interceptors.

The weapons, Putin said, were a direct response to the US' withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and its continued development of ballistic missile defenses—which the Russian government has argued undermine the strategic deterrent value of Russia's existing nuclear force. "No one has listened to us," said Putin. "Listen to us now."
A little something extra for the fallout
Putin reveals the submarine drone torpedo, officially.
Enlarge /




Putin reveals the submarine drone torpedo, officially.

Putin claimed that the cruise missile's miniaturized nuclear power plant had been successfully tested last fall and that, when built, the weapon would have a "practically unlimited" range. An animation showed a computer-generated image of the weapon flying close to the ground, following terrain contours, flying over mountains, and out to sea, avoiding seaborne air defense radars on its way to a virtual target. A similar animation showed nuclear-powered torpedoes launched from a submarine, traveling "intercontinental" distances, and striking a US aircraft carrier and exploding near a shore facility. This was the first official public announcement of both weapons.

Flying reactors have been attempted in the past, but for obvious reasons they've never been deployed—while it has been demonstrated that a nuclear reactor could effectively power a turboprop or turbojet engine, the risk and cost of a flying nuclear aircraft are prohibitive, to say the least. Then there's the weight of the reactor (plus shielding to protect crew from dying before getting to a target, in the case of nuclear aircraft) and the accompanying loss of payload capacity. Russia conducted airborne reactor tests in the 1960s with the Tupolev Tu-119 "Nuclear Flying Laboratory" but abandoned development. The US tested airborne reactors and developed nuclear aircraft engines in the 1950s―including a nuclear ramjet engine for the Supersonic Low Altitude Missile (SLAM) that was tested on the ground but never flew.

Putin claimed the reactors used in the sub-drone and cruise missile were 1/100th the size of current nuclear sub reactors. That's still a fairly massive piece of hardware to put in a torpedo or cruise missile.
But wait, that’s not all

The third weapon, called Avangard, is a hypersonic maneuverable re-entry vehicle (MARV), described by Putin as being capable of high-speed radical evasive maneuvers while in flight and of delivering its warheads at over 20 times the speed of sound. It would strike, Putin said, "like a meteorite, like a fireball."   :-\

The Avangard is probably what has previously been called "Objekt 4202," also known as the YU-71, or the Aeroballistic Hypersonic Warhead. Unlike a traditional ICBM, the Avangard would get its boost from the new massive Sarmat ballistic missile and then skip along the top of the edge of the Earth's atmosphere under its own control and could maneuver around potential intercept points using its control surfaces as well as ramjet engines. It would be launched aboard a ballistic missile―the new Sarmat missile, now in testing, has enough range that it could be routed over the South Pole from Russia and strike targets in the US. A video for the Sarmat showed warheads from a missile launched on such a route falling over Florida—presumably targeting Mar-a-Lago.

The Sarmat itself is nearly ready for deployment. The ICBM is part of Russia's broad modernization of its nuclear forces, a modernization that hasn't just focused on weapons capable of striking the US. And so is another weapon Putin mentioned, the "Dagger:" an air-launched, tactical, nuclear-capable weapon intended to strike targets such as US Navy aircraft carriers while flying at Mach 10 to evade air defense systems on accompanying Aegis destroyers.

Some of Russia's modernization steps have skirted or potentially outright violated a different treaty with the US: the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty signed by the Soviet Union and United States in 1987. Russia has built new nuclear-capable land-based cruise missile systems that the US argues are in violation of INF. And over the past five years, as part of its rapid modernization, the Russian Navy has expanded its strategic capabilities, including one that's essentially a thumbing of the nose at the INF's fine print.

In addition to new Borey-A ballistic missile submarines, Russia has built the Buyan-M class of "missile corvettes," small ships that can carry nuclear cruise missiles. The Buyan-M is small enough that it is capable of launching missiles not just at sea, but inland from Russia's rivers or the Moscow Canal system, allowing a dodge around the terms of the INF Treaty.
A Buyan-M class corvette.

A Buyan-M class corvette.

According to a recent interview with Russian Navy Chief Admiral Vladimir Korolev in the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star), there are five Borey-A ballistic missile submarines in various stages of construction right now, in addition to three that were built within the last five years. And six Yasen-class submarines capable of carrying up to 40 land-attack cruise missiles are also under construction.
The nuclear-powered cruise missile gap

The US government and the Department of Defense's Missile Defense Agency have argued that the ballistic missile defenses the US has built in Europe (in the form of Aegis Ashore), at sea (aboard Aegis-equipped guided missile destroyers and cruisers), and at home (the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) interceptor) are really focused on countries such as Iran and North Korea—and not Russia or China.

But both Russia and China have objected heavily to US missile defense programs as they've crept closer to their respective homelands. And Russia's response, in a purely nuclear deterrence game theory way, is somewhat rational: if the US government felt that it could shoot down at least some inbound missiles from Russia, a certain US leader might become emboldened and believe that a nuclear war was winnable.

However, Russia's nuclear cruise and torpedo weapons are, from an arms control standpoint, not exactly deterrent-focused weapons. They're potentially first-strike weapons, capable of evading detection until the moment they strike. As fast as they are, they require long transit times and could be conceivably deployed in "loiter" mode, hanging out somewhere on station while simply awaiting a signal to strike.

As far as the Avangard goes, Russia is not alone. The US and China also have hypersonic weapons in development. China has been testing its Hypersonic Glide Vehicle since 2014, and the Chinese military has called it a "carrier killer" accurate enough to strike a ship at sea.

The US has focused on conventional (non-nuclear) hypersonic weapons. DARPA and Lockheed Martin had been developing the Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 (HTV-2), to meet the US Strategic Command's desire for a "Prompt Global Strike" capability—a way for the US to hit targets anywhere in the world within one hour. That program ended in 2014, with no further development planned. An Army program, the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon, was more successful and is still in development.



https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/putin-boasts-new-strategic-weapons-will-make-us-missile-defense-useless/  :icon_study: :icon_study:


                   
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From Russia with Love. It's called the "Balance of Powers". Thank you so much my dear darling Vladimir Putin. Hope you can keep those fucking AngloZionists camping out in your country in line. Like you and Foreign Minister Lavrov and others have said, the United States imbeciles are not only untrustworthy, but completely unable to communicate intelligibly or keep any agreement. But I bet they got this message. That's why the Pentagon is shitting all over itself with its outmoded weapons. With Americans it's all bluster and accusation while they print more worthless money. They don't produce anything worth trading anyway. No, they only know how to consume cheap crap and poisoned food. Oh yes. They know how to support Nazi Genociders but can't even wall themselves in to keep out what they love to call" HUMAN GARBGE" while they only know how to act like human garbage themselves. Look, dear Mr. President. Just keep doing what you are doing and have been doing. You are doing great. Probably nobody but you could have done it after the American treachery under the alcoholic Yeltsin. You are the real deal, sweetie. Just remember not to let your guard down no matter what these shits tell you. You know that. And everybody over there who loves you and keeps you in office knows it too. Your country has everything the US wants to steal and plunder. But they are destroying themselves in degradation and shameless living along with their infinite capacity for corruption and the worship of Mamon. It's only a matter of a pretty short time. Keep your chin up, Hero. Cheers.

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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2018, 11:45:31 AM »
Agelbert and Palloy, listed alphabetically and not in order of importance  :laugh: ;D ::)

Would any or both of you gents care to comment on the Russian boasting of it's new weapons prowess a short while back.

It seemed like a bold threatening boast that was found believable by me of it's new superiority.

My reason for asking is the subsequent non reporting and totally ignoring of the boast both by the media and the rhetoric and threats from both parties namely Russia and The US as if nothing had even happened or mentioned, and the status quo seems to have remained the same.

It seemed, at least to me, as a massive restart of the nuclear arms race as well as making the new China,Russia alliance a much more potent military force, yet there is nary a word of it mentioned.  :icon_scratch: :icon_scratch:

You two gents seem to have an abundance of interest in these matter, Palloy from the political war wary area and AG from his recent revelation of his work in this area and aircraft expertise.

Did I read it wrong, did not Putin state he had the goods we could not intercept and issue a warning??
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It is FAR crazier than you can imagine. The US and Russia are now in a new NUCLEAR arms race  . Plutonium pits, those deadly little hollow balls of Plutonium that get injected with Tritium nano-seconds before a hydrogen bomb goes off, which we ALREADY have thhousands of sitting in warehouses in TEXAS, are now all the NEW THING to FUND in the Trump adminsitration. The new ones are a nuclear welfare queen operation to save Senator Graham's arse since the Mox making plant he championed has gone so far over budget that it had to be cancelled.

This new cold war is nuts. These are not just weapons of mass destruciton; they are weapons of GLOBAL destruction.

Hear all about it at Radio Echoshock:

Two Dangerous Myths Exposed
Posted on May 23, 2018, by Radio Ecoshock 📢

https://www.ecoshock.org/2018/05/two-dangerous-myths-exposed.html

Did you know about Putin's FABULOUSLY RICH daughters? Perhaps Palloy will do a bit of research and tell us all about them.  ;) Between the Putins and Trumps, the corruption competition is fierce.  :evil4: They may have to blow up the planet to see who is the biggest "apex Predator" among these empathy deficit disordered dynastic bunches.

Have a nice nuclear day.


 
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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2018, 01:13:41 PM »
Thanks for your reply Agelbert.

Have to say your revelation about Putin's daughters, new news for me, and subsequent brief research, was quite a surprise.

Baffled as well as to never hearing or reading a thing about them with this constant Russia and Putin topic the MSM is obsessed with.                                                                  Thanks again AG,    GO


                                             


                                           


                                           




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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2018, 03:55:18 PM »
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GO: My reason for asking is the subsequent non reporting and totally ignoring of the boast both by the media and the rhetoric and threats from both parties namely Russia and The US as if nothing had even happened or mentioned, and the status quo seems to have remained the same.

The announcement was reported by RT and copied by me here.  Putin was subsequently interviewed over the announcement where he did admit that not all of the technology had been completed to active service yet, but is in the 2018-2027 program.

Then this was leaked to TASS by "an anonymous source deep within the Russian Defense sector" by few days ago:

https://www.rt.com/uk/428562-royal-navy-russia-survey-ship/
Russia To Build 5th-Generation Nuclear Sub With Hypersonic Missiles
Tyler Durden
06/02/2018

Vladimir Dorofeyev, CEO of Russia’s Malakhit Marine Engineering Design Bureau, told TASS in 2015 that “the work on the fifth-generation of submarines is already underway.” Now an anonymous source deep within the Russian defense sector told TASSon Thursday that the Husky-class fifth-generation nuclear-powered submarine will be armed with Zircon hypersonic missiles with a deployment date of 2027.


Putin's point was that the US missile shield installations in Poland and Romania, ostensibly for Iranian missiles but able to be modified to use attack missiles, is not going to be countered by Russian anti-missile missiles, but instead Russia will rely on its ability to attack from submarines from anywhere around the world - the old MAD solution.  His "Listen to us" statement seemed to be a call for talks with US about this, but the reply was more anti-Russian hysteria and sanctions.  They only know how to bully, escalate and threaten.

FIFA World Cup 2018, for which the US didn't qualify, starts June 14, and is a prime candidate for meddling.  But North Korea is the really critical event.

The US doesn't have any response to supersonic missiles, they haven't even got a Threat Type D target missile to aim at yet.  Russia thinks its not worth developing one, as the incoming missiles are now doing Mach 20.
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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2018, 03:39:03 AM »
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GO: My reason for asking is the subsequent non reporting and totally ignoring of the boast both by the media and the rhetoric and threats from both parties namely Russia and The US as if nothing had even happened or mentioned, and the status quo seems to have remained the same.

The announcement was reported by RT and copied by me here.  Putin was subsequently interviewed over the announcement where he did admit that not all of the technology had been completed to active service yet, but is in the 2018-2027 program.

Then this was leaked to TASS by "an anonymous source deep within the Russian Defense sector" by few days ago:

https://www.rt.com/uk/428562-royal-navy-russia-survey-ship/
Russia To Build 5th-Generation Nuclear Sub With Hypersonic Missiles
Tyler Durden
06/02/2018

Vladimir Dorofeyev, CEO of Russia’s Malakhit Marine Engineering Design Bureau, told TASS in 2015 that “the work on the fifth-generation of submarines is already underway.” Now an anonymous source deep within the Russian defense sector told TASSon Thursday that the Husky-class fifth-generation nuclear-powered submarine will be armed with Zircon hypersonic missiles with a deployment date of 2027.


Putin's point was that the US missile shield installations in Poland and Romania, ostensibly for Iranian missiles but able to be modified to use attack missiles, is not going to be countered by Russian anti-missile missiles, but instead Russia will rely on its ability to attack from submarines from anywhere around the world - the old MAD solution.  His "Listen to us" statement seemed to be a call for talks with US about this, but the reply was more anti-Russian hysteria and sanctions.  They only know how to bully, escalate and threaten.

FIFA World Cup 2018, for which the US didn't qualify, starts June 14, and is a prime candidate for meddling.  But North Korea is the really critical event.

The US doesn't have any response to supersonic missiles, they haven't even got a Threat Type D target missile to aim at yet.  Russia thinks its not worth developing one, as the incoming missiles are now doing Mach 20.

Thank's for replying Palloy, Sorry for not being more specific but My intent was not to imply it had not been duly noted on the Diner by you and others.

It was my belief that the war looney's would go absolutely bullshit over it. Had visions of Trump jumping up and down claiming he was right about it increasing military spending, the press screaming that a nuclear arms race had begun anew, Bolton and the neocons screaming we could be obliterated in a couple of years if we didn't put them in full charge, the MSM bowing to the corporate pigs that make big dough manufacturing this stuff and chiming in, that sort of stuff.

Too my surprise it just came and went like a daily weather report, at least that was my impression. :dontknow:

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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2018, 06:59:08 AM »
Congress did make the news questioning it, but since there was no WH answer, MSM didn't make anything of it.  LOOK, OVER HERE! - Trump latest gaffe.
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An awful lot said and food for thought in this 3 min video.  :-\

A Russian think tank linked to Vladimir Putin has made the claim Islamic State operatives in northern Afghanistan are organizing a large-scale hybrid offensive against Russia through Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. The Russians are taking the threat seriously. The director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise Valery Korovin says Moscow should prepare for a large-scale offensive operations in Ukraine, Armenia, and a number of post-Soviet republics with large Muslim populations. Korovan believes the United States didn’t seize Afghanistan by rigging its military dictatorship in order to build democracy and civil society. This is a springboard for the creation of terrorist networks to be used for aggression against Iran and Russia and threaten financial projects initiated by China. The plan is not new or unique. Similar operations were organized by the CIA, British MI6, and Pakistani intelligence in the mid-1980s.

                                   
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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2018, 12:05:04 AM »
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/06/16/russian-army-gets-weapons-future-today.html
Russian Army Gets the Weapons of the Future Today
Andrei AKULOV
16.06.2018

The combat experience that Russia’s Terminator-2 tank support combat vehicle (BMPT-72) has gained in Syria has proven to be invaluable. It is being used to develop a new Terminator-3 version that will soon equip the tank support system to do things like attacking unmanned aerial vehicles (drones). Other armored vehicles and dismounted infantry in difficult terrain remain high-priority targets.



Few details are available so far. Like its predecessors, the new vehicle’s armor protection will be equivalent to that of a main battle tank, with armaments allowing it to engage virtually any enemy weapon system or unit and to fire at multiple targets at the same time. Automation makes it possible to reduce the number of crew members from 5 to 3.

The new weapon system is likely to share its chassis, sensors, armor, and active protection system with the new Armata T-14 main battle tank. According to Russian media reports, the main armament will be a 57-mm. gun already used by the Russian Navy. Its rate of fire is 300 rounds per minute, its range — 16 km., and its altitude — over 4 km. The projectile can penetrate armor over 100 mm. thick. Because the firing range of its machine gun and automatic grenade launcher are 60-140% greater than that of the American Bradley IFVs and Stryker wheeled armored vehicles and anti-tank systems, this system can reliably protect tanks and infantry while remaining safely out of reach.

The Zvezda TV channel quoted officials from the weapons manufacturer Techmash who claimed that the Tosochka thermobaric, wheeled-chassis, heavy multiple-rocket launcher is to be delivered to the Russian Army in 2020. Using wheels instead of caterpillar tracks allows it to move faster but also increases the system’s vulnerability when operating on the front lines. One must assume that the MLRS will not be used to fire directly at targets, but will instead shoot at them from protected positions. Wheels make it more effective against terrorist units. It does not need trailers to move rapidly across great distances, which is exactly what is required to forcefully attack militants on different fronts.

Russian officials confirmed in May that the Uran-6 demining robot and the Uran-9 unmanned light battle tank have been tested in Syria. The latter is the first remote-controlled military robot in the world (a miniature tank) with a 30-mm. gun, enabling it to carry out the missions of an armored combat system supporting infantry on the ground.

The Uran-6 is a unique unmanned ground vehicle (UGV), or mine-clearing robotic system, that saves human lives by clearing routes across mine fields. Weighing six tons, it can be transported by truck. With its bulldozer blade and trawls, it can do the work of 20 sappers, neutralizing ordnance with a potential explosive energy of 59 kg. (130 lbs.) of TNT equivalent. Aided by four cameras for 360-degree view, it can be equipped with a large number of tools, such as a robotic arm, a rear forklift, a gripper with a cargo-lifting capacity of one ton, etc. The system can conduct demining operations on any terrain, while remaining at a safe distance of up to one km. away.

Made of steel plates 8 mm-10 mm thick, the vehicle is highly resistant to mine blasts and shrapnel damage. The system can defend itself using 7.62-mm small arms.

Built on the basis of a tracked chassis, the Uran-6 is powered by a 6-cylinder water-cooled, turbo-charged diesel engine, allowing it to move at a speed of up to 15 km., negotiate obstacles 0.8 m. high, cross 1.2-m wide ditches and water obstacles, and operate in swamps 0.45 m. deep. The system is able to work continuously for up to five hours. It did a great job in Palmyra, Syria, defusing bombs and bobby traps. The Russian Army plans to increasingly rely on UGVs as time goes on.

Mainly designed for reconnaissance and patrol purposes, as well as for protecting convoys and supporting infantry, Tigr-M all-terrain infantry mobility vehicles have also seen combat in Syria. With the Arbalet-DM remote module installed, the system becomes robotic. The module consists of a 12.7-mm. caliber Kord machine gun with 150 cartridges or a 7.62-mm caliber PKTM machine gun with 250 cartridges. Laser guidance is used. The Arbalet-DM can lock on and automatically track stationary and moving targets identified by a TV camera from a distance of 2.5 km. or 1.5 km. if thermal-imaging equipment is used. A laser range finder has a range of 100 m.-3,000 m. This new version of Tigr is funded by the 2018-2025 state procurement program.

The Tigr-M has outstanding off-road capabilities. With an operational range of 1.000 km, the vehicle can reach speeds of up to 155 km. per hour. It can climb 31-degree slopes and cross water obstacles that are 1.2 m wide.

The famous, combat-proven BMP-3 heavily armed infantry combat vehicles are to become unmanned too, as soon as the AU-220 combat module armed with a 57-mm. automatic cannon is installed. It will enable the system to strike aerial targets. The gun’s rate of fire is 80 rounds per minute and its range is 14.5 km. Any type of rounds can be used. An armor-piercing round can penetrate 130 mm. of steel from one km. away A coaxial 7.62-mm machine gun can hold 1,000 rounds of ammunition. The module can fully rotate 360 degrees.

The trend is clearly evident — the Russian Army is making great strides in its introduction of new, more highly automated technologies. New weapons that are unlike anything owned by any other country, such as tank support vehicles, are currently either being added to the Russian arsenal or are being developed. The army is also gradually moving away from soldier-to-soldier warfare, turning instead toward combat that is fought by remote-controlled machines driven by artificial intelligence. In March, Defense Minister Army General Sergei Shoigu said that a number of military robotic systems were nearing the completion of their trials before going into serial production this year. He was telling the truth. Many nations are working hard to put unmanned systems onto the battlefields, but Russia appears to be leading this race, fielding its military robotics more quickly than anyone else. The very pace of the updates to these armored vehicles captures the imagination.
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Re: The Russian thread
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https://www.rt.com/usa/432042-greenwald-rt-interview-moscow/
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Too many people in the US consider any contact with Russia suspicious, or worse, journalist Glenn Greenwald told RT. Combating this toxic attitude is one of the reasons he decided to come to Russia this week.

RT caught up with Greenwald, who is best known for his exposés of US electronic surveillance programs based on documents leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, after he took part in an expert panel on the phenomenon of fake news. Here is the full interview transcript.

RT: Glenn, you are now in Russia. Going to Russia is seen in the West as almost treason now, even worse than during the times of the Soviet Union. Why do you think that is?

G.G: There is an obsession in the United States with viewing Russia not just as an adversary, but as an actual enemy. It’s permeated by both political parties. There is actual talk a lot now about how what they regards as the interference in the 2016 election is similar to Pearl Harbor, when the Japanese attacked the United States during World War II, or Al Qaeda and 9/11. And there is the sense that Russia is now an enemy on par with Al Qaeda or the Japanese during WWII.

Russia is often talked about this way in the sense that any connection with or interaction with Russia is viewed as inherently suspicious or even worse. It is extremely dangerous and extremely toxic. It’s one of the reasons I decided to come here and this morning posted a picture of myself and Snowden. Because I think it is very important to combat that attitude.

RT: When it comes to core issues, is Trump’s America different from Obama’s America?

G.G: There are definitely differences between Obama and Trump and I could go through a lot of those differences. But most of the controversies that had been the greatest and most intense ones under Trump are really continuations of American political culture and not departures from it.

Even the immigration controversy. President Obama deported more people from the United States than any president in history. The agency that deports people is ICE, which was created under George W Bush and expanded under President Obama. Families were often separated, children were put into cages under President Obama. So you can go down the list and see many of the same policies that get so much attention under Trump that got very little under Obama.

Interestingly, where Russia is concerned, despite all the claims that Trump is a puppet of Russia, in many ways Obama was more cooperative with the Russian government than Trump was. Obama refused to send lethal arms to Ukraine whereas Trump did that. Obama refused to bomb forces of the Assad government – Trump has done that. Trump has expelled more Russian diplomats that Obama did.

So in the cases where they are different, they are often different in a way that is the exact opposite of the way it is described.

RT: It seems there is consensus in the Western media and political elites that Russia was responsible for the Skripal poisoning. Yet we are still waiting for evidence to be presented. Is it not essential for a just and informed discourse that we wait for evidence in this and other cases before jumping to conclusions?

G.G: I think one of the most important principles in any political system is that people shouldn’t be presumed to be guilty – governments shouldn’t be presumed guilty – unless evidence is presented of their guilt. I don’t even think that is controversy and I don’t know when it became controversy. I thought that was the lesson of the Iraq war.

And yet when Jeremy Corbyn stood up and said: before we blame the Russian government for this poisoning, we ought to see evidence that they are actually responsible, the British media treated him as though he had said something evil.

So as a journalist especially, the principle that I believe in, probably, above all others is that no guilt should be assumed without evidence of that guilt being demonstrated.

RT: There are anti-establishment voices on the right and on the left. How has the perceptions of the left and the right shifted?

G.G: I think, in Italy you see, for example, that what is traditionally the right and the left is changing very dramatically. There is a government in place formed by a coalition of what traditionally has been called the left and the right. But they are now really called more opposition to the establishment.

In the United States for a long time this shift has been taking place. Two of the most important protest movements in the US – one was the Tea Party, the other was Occupy Wall Street – were both perceived to be on different ends of the political spectrum. Yet they had very similar issues in common. They were protesting the bailout of Wall Street after the Wall Street crisis, the domination of corporations. When Donald Trump ran for president, even though he was perceived as a right-wing candidate, he did so by criticizing the Iraq war, by criticizing American militarism, by promising to ‘drain the swamp’ of corporate influence.

You see a similar dynamic in Brexit, where there were elements of the right and the left against the European Union. I think that left and right as we understood them for the last four decades are starting to morph into pro-establishment and anti-establishment dynamics and that will only continue.

RT: Have the last two years of inquiries and reports convinced you that Trump colluded with Russia?

G.G: No, if anything, it’s convinced me that it’s more unlikely than ever. There are factions within the intelligence community of the United States, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI that hate Donald Trump and will do anything to destroy him, including leaking classified information against him. I believe that if there were evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russian government, when it comes to the hacking of the DNC or the John Podesta emails, we would have seen in by now. We have not seen it by now.

Even people, who hate Donald Trump in the CIA, have tried to warn the Democrats: don’t expect there to be evidence of it; we don’t have evidence of it. But it’s like a religious belief to other people in the United States. And of course as we know religion doesn’t require evidence.

I don’t say it didn’t happen, because it could have happened. All I say is until there is evidence of it I don’t think we should believe it happened. And so far there is no evidence.
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So, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page declined to testify before a congressional committee because she didn’t feel like it. Apparently we’re now a rule-of-law-optional nation. Until recently, we were merely reality-optional. That was fun, but when officers of the country’s leading law enforcement agency go optional on standard legal procedure, like answering subpoenas, then we’re truly in the land where anything goes (and nothing matters).

After two years of Trump-inspired hysteria, it’s pretty obvious what went on in the bungled Obama-Hillary power handoff of 2016 and afterward: the indictable shenanigans of candidate Hillary and her captive DNC prompted a campaign of agit-prop by the US Intel “community” to gaslight the public with a Russian meddling story that morphed uncontrollably into a crusade to make it impossible for Mr. Trump to govern. And what’s followed for many months is an equally bungled effort to conceal, deceive, and confuse the issues in the case by Democratic Party partisans still in high places. It was very likely begun with the tacit knowledge of President Obama, though he remained protected by a shield of plausible deniability. And it was carried out by high-ranking officials who turned out to be shockingly unprofessional, and whose activities have been disclosed through an electronic data evidence trail.

Mr. Trump’s visit to confer with Russian President Putin in Helsinki seems to have provoked a kind of last-gasp effort to keep the increasingly idiotic Russian election meddling story alive — with Robert Mueller’s ballyhooed indictment of twelve “Russian intel agents” alleged to have “hacked” emails and computer files of the DNC and Hillary’s campaign chairman John Podesta. The gaping holes in that part of the tale have long been unearthed so I’ll summarize as briefly as possible:

1) the bandwidth required to transfer the files has been proven to be greater than an internet hack might have conceivably managed in the time allowed and points rather to a direct download into a flash drive device. 2) the DNC computer hard drives, said to be the source of the alleged hacking, disappeared while in the custody of the US Intel Community (including the FBI). 3) the authenticity of the purloined emails by Mr. Podesta and others has never been disputed, and they revealed a lot of potentially criminal behavior by them. 4) Mr. Mueller must know he will never get twelve Russian intel agents into a US courtroom, so the entire exercise is a joke and a fraud. In effect, he’s indicted twelve ham sandwiches with Russian dressing.

Tragically, the American public is led to take this ploy seriously by a morally compromised news media, especially CNN and the The New York Times. The latter outfit is so afflicted with a case of the Russian meddling vapors that it ran this laughable headline at the top of its front page yesterday: “Just Sitting Down With Trump, Putin Comes Out Ahead.” Gosh, what’s the message there? Don’t even bother talking to foreign heads of state, especially in the interest of improving relations?

The salient question that persons in authority might ask out-loud is how come so many officers of the Intel Community have not been hauled in front of grand juries to answer for their obviously incriminating behavior. Mr Mueller is perhaps too busy chasing Russian phantoms to draw up a bill of particulars against characters such as former CIA chief (now CNN shill) John Brennan, who apparently orchestrated the early chapters of the Russian meddling ruse, Bruce and Nellie Ohr, who ushered the DNC’s Steele Dossier into the FBI’s warrant machinery, fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who managed the Steele Dossier and its spinoff mischief as an “insurance policy” against Mr. Trump, Peter Strzok, who executed the “insurance policy,” and, of course, Ms. Page, his paramour, who decided that testifying before Congress was beneath her dignity. These and probably many others.

Tragically, also, these matters can only be fully corrected by the very Department of Justice that includes under its management the rogue FBI. Who else can formally and legally bring these cases before grand juries? The DOJ appears intent on preventing that from ever happening. Congress has so far omitted enforcing its subpoenas or using its impeachment power to dislodge obdurate DOJ officials. Mr. Trump, for now apparently, has declined to use his inherent executive powers to clean out this rats nest, say by removing secrecy shields from many of the documents at issue in the DOJ’s possession — most likely because he can’t afford to be seen “meddling” in the tangled proceedings. The net result of all this subterfuge, inaction, and gaslighting, is the defeat of the rule-of-law generally in American life. This ought to be taken seriously. If it’s asking too much of the system, then the system itself will eventually not be taken seriously, and that will be the end of the republic as we knew it.


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Re: The Russian thread - Round the Bend - James Howard Kunstler
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2018, 12:01:51 PM »
James seemed to on a Big Time Rant with this one. He is pissed and as poignant as ever!  ::) :o :whip:

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The political insanity roiling the USA only gets worse, with no end in sight. On Wednesday, Senator Ed Markey (D-Mass), made the astonishing statement on CNN that “the American people wanted a confrontation, not a conversation,” between Presidents Trump and Putin in Helsinki.

Really? We wanted a mud wrestling bout and all we got was some lousy chit-chat? Next time, maybe Mr. Trump will bring a fungo bat to the room and “tune up” his counterpart — a popular negotiating technique from the rough-and-tumble New York City construction scene back in Mr. Trump’s halcyon days. Some people you just can’t reason with, especially the hell-spawned man-beast who personally directed Russian “meddling” and “interference” in our election and stole certain victory from president-designee Hillary. (I know this because The New York Times and The Washington Post said so.)

Another astonishment: in his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US would not recognize Crimea as part of Russia and would demand the return of the region to Ukraine. Not to put too fine a point on it, Mr. Pompeo is pissing up a rope on that one. Russia will not give up its warm-water naval bases on the Black Sea anymore than the US will return its San Diego naval installation to Mexico, and Mr. Pompeo knows it. So do the posturing idiots on the senate committee, who apparently forgot that our own government officials fomented the 2014 Ukrainian coup that prompted Russia to annex Crimea and its military assets in the first place.

How many of you feel a gnawing disgust and contempt for both sides of the US political spectrum? The news, day and night, reveals a nation unable to think, unable to discern reality from fantasy, avid to dissemble and lie about absolutely everything, eager to support any racketeering operation designed to fleece its own citizens, and utterly ignoring the genuine problems that can drive us into a new dark age.

On balance, and just for now, I’m more disturbed by the side represented by the Democratic Party, aka the “progressives” or “the Resistance,” because they are responsible for politicizing the FBI before, during, and after the 2016 election and that was a dastardly act of institutional debauchery in an agency with the power to destroy the lives and careers of American citizens. The product of that corruption is a dangerous manufactured hysteria inciting hostility and aggression against another nation that could lead to a war that humanity will not recover from.

Nobody in that group of rogue FBI agents and their Department of Justice enablers has had to answer for any of this, especially those whose misdeeds have been identified in detail by the DOJ’s own Inspector General. Am I the only one in the country wondering why they have not been called to a grand jury? That is generally how the rule of law works when evidence of criminal misbehavior comes to light and a formal inquiry must determine whether indictments are warranted. You’d think The New York Times or The WashPo would want to ask Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein why he has not assigned a federal prosecutor to walk these cases into grand juries. What is he waiting for? What are the papers waiting for?

Mr. Trump seems completely over his head in all this. The permanent Washington bureaucracy and all its handmaidens on K Street and news media are determined to expel him from the Deep State’s craw like a lump of under-chewed hanger steak so they can get back to business-as-usual, namely asset-stripping what’s left in the nation that’s not nailed down. Mr. Trump lacks even the most rudimentary rhetorical skills to defend his legitimacy in office, and obviously his enemies deny that there’s anything legitimate about him, not least his presence in their swamp.

Nobody can say where all this is tending, but if we do not stumble into some version of World War Three before Christmas, I foresee a drawn-out, bloody house-cleaning in American leadership that will make the French Revolution look like a simple civic colonic.

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Re: The Russian thread
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2018, 12:25:13 PM »
Not for nothing did Gore Vidal call this country,"United States of amnesia."

We forget stuff like this:

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So do the posturing idiots on the senate committee, who apparently forgot that our own government officials fomented the 2014 Ukrainian coup that prompted Russia to annex Crimea and its military assets in the first place.

Color revolution, gotcher color revolutions, step right up and get yours...

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On balance, and just for now, I’m more disturbed by the side represented by the Democratic Party, aka the “progressives” or “the Resistance,” because they are responsible for politicizing the FBI before, during, and after the 2016 election and that was a dastardly act of institutional debauchery in an agency with the power to destroy the lives and careers of American citizens.

JHK should eat some of his own cooking. How quickly for we forget, how Comey made his statement to reopen the so-called email investigation days before the 2016 election. And it. was the Dems who "politicized?" Speaking of FBI politicization, remember Rudy 9-11's antics in the run up to the election, as he was fed tidbits and morsels from the FBI's NY Field Office? If the D's "politicized," they sure did a poor job of it.

Or we're supposed to remember color revolutions and forget FBI election chicanery?

When JHK sez,

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How many of you feel a gnawing disgust and contempt for both sides of the US political spectrum? The news, day and night, reveals a nation unable to think, unable to discern reality from fantasy, avid to dissemble and lie about absolutely everything, eager to support any racketeering operation designed to fleece its own citizens, and utterly ignoring the genuine problems that can drive us into a new dark age.

I do not think that means what he thinks it means. Cohen puts Trump with foreknowledge of the meeting with Russians regarding "adoptions," code for lifting Magnitsky Act sanctions. Game over. It just now has to play out.

Although I think it's odds-on likely that we'll be in a shooting war, not with Russia but with Iran, prior to the election, to rally all the uncritical and low-information meatheads to the flag. Because 'Murka. 45 has already shown himself willing to say or do anything to save his own skin. Don't be surprised.
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