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Crazy Weather
« on: January 14, 2013, 01:23:21 PM »
62 degrees in Boston and sunny right now, forecast to go down to a high of only 20 with sun by the end of the week. Second winter of crazy weather, something HAS to be going on.   :icon_scratch: :icon_sunny:

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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 06:49:09 PM »
Santa fe to Siberia in a week. Its everywhere, North Korea looks like the north pole right now, at the time of hurricane sandy there was a freezing wind blowing here at the start of summer, and a record heatwave followed by a really cool swing down to autumn temps on the east coast of oz.

Maybe WHD can tell us what this does to the fruit trees trying to work out whether to hibernate and the rest of the natural cycle of bees and plants when theres 4 seasons in a season.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 07:01:25 PM »
Yup.   Tuscon AZ has a hard freeze warning tonight, with forecast low temperature @ 22F.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 07:08:38 PM »
yesterday it was 72 degrees in upstate SC.  It's supposed to be in the 20's.  I've got the flu and I don't wonder why.  This sucks. 

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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 07:26:39 PM »
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Maybe WHD can tell us what this does to the fruit trees trying to work out whether to hibernate and the rest of the natural cycle of bees and plants when theres 4 seasons in a season.

Simple, Uncle Bob. No fruit.

Last spring, it was 80F in March when it was supposed to be 30 and snowing 12 inches at a time. About 11 high temp record breakers in an eighteen day stretch.  Apple and cherry trees all burst out with color; then an April hard freeze (nothing extraordinary) knocked out alot of the apple buds and wiped out the cherries. All over the Midwest. Then there was the drought, of course.

It really does make all those projections about 10 billion in 2050, mostly wishful thinking, if this climate chaos accelerates. If it accelerates, we're going to have a harder time feeding what we have.   

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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 08:12:59 PM »
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Maybe WHD can tell us what this does to the fruit trees trying to work out whether to hibernate and the rest of the natural cycle of bees and plants when theres 4 seasons in a season.

Simple, Uncle Bob. No fruit.

Last spring, it was 80F in March when it was supposed to be 30 and snowing 12 inches at a time. About 11 high temp record breakers in an eighteen day stretch.  Apple and cherry trees all burst out with color; then an April hard freeze (nothing extraordinary) knocked out alot of the apple buds and wiped out the cherries. All over the Midwest. Then there was the drought, of course.

It really does make all those projections about 10 billion in 2050, mostly wishful thinking, if this climate chaos accelerates. If it accelerates, we're going to have a harder time feeding what we have.

"They say" world population is still growing.  Maybe so. 

But on the track we are on, it would not be surprising to see peak weather volitility, peak food production, peak energy production, peak debt, and yes, peak population, all in this decade.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 08:35:10 PM »
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But on the track we are on, it would not be surprising to see peak weather volitility, peak food production, peak energy production, peak debt, and yes, peak population, all in this decade.

Yeah; anybody else feel like Dec 21, 2012 was a turning point? LOL

Permanent crisis.

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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 08:57:43 PM »
Permanent crisis

Some thought it was underway quite some time ago:
 
"Humanity is moving ever deeper into crisis--A crisis without precedent... Brought about by cosmic evolution intent upon transforming humanity into a completely integrated harmonious whole".

Buckminister Fuller -- from the intro to his book "Critical Path" 1981  (edited for brevity)
 
Perhaps 12/21/2012 was a shift to a higher velocity.   ie. We shifted from a linear growth of crises to an exponential growth.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 09:58:22 PM »
"Dark.....Knight..........Rises", released on DVD Blu Ray in Dec 2012, cue spooky music, containing written references of two massacres happening that same year, aurora and sandy, one even being in the premierre of the same movie earlier in 2012. Revelation says about the dark knight, "let him who hath understanding calculate the number of the beast for the number is that of a man, six hundred and sixty six" (666), Rosemary's baby/Jason is a just a sudanese economista, whocoodanode.

But seriously, maybe the end of 2012 will mark a point where the stage was set for the show to start.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 07:36:19 AM »
...drifting back to topic  ;)


Record minus 24 in Ely; bitter cold grips Nevada
 

The Associated Press
 
Monday, Jan. 14, 2013 | 2:18 p.m.
 


Weather forecasters warned northern Nevadans to brace for more bitter cold as the temperature dropped to a record minus 24 in Ely early Monday and wind chills were expected to drop to near 40 below as winds pick up Monday night into Tuesday.

The National Weather Service issued a wind-chill advisory for White Pine County on the Utah line effective 9 p.m. Monday through 9 a.m. Tuesday. Ely's record set early Monday blew away the old mark of minus 17 set in 2007.

Winds up to 15 mph will raise the threat of frost bite and hypothermia in the area, including Great Basin National Park. Other lows early Monday:

-21 Winnemucca

-19 Truckee, Calif.

-12 Elko

-12 Lovelock

-11 South Lake Tahoe, Calif.

-7 Fallon

-4 Jackpot

-2 Minden

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jan/14/nv-cold-nevada/
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 04:55:38 PM »
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Do they have any predictions on what that would do to the wildlife or livestock in the area? Penguins and polar bears etc that are adapted to those temps can overheat at 0C/25F....
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 06:04:52 PM »
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Do they have any predictions on what that would do to the wildlife or livestock in the area? Penguins and polar bears etc that are adapted to those temps can overheat at 0C/25F....

Haven't seen any such predictions. 

Much of the area will remain below the freezing point for at least another week.  Some valleys subject to inversion will have temps below 0 F at night.  That will keep ranchers w/o frost free hydrants busy watering stock and keeping horses and other cold sensitive stock warm.  Some may be able to move stock to higher south facing slopes for warmth and water.  Cold is normal in January in Northern Nevada, not usually this intense though.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 04:57:11 AM »
Remember me stating this thread Monday afternoon writing about the over sixty degree balmy weather in Boston?

Just finished shoveling five inches of snow off my front stairs.   :D   :icon_scratch:



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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 06:30:55 AM »
Remember me stating this thread Monday afternoon writing about the over sixty degree balmy weather in Boston?

Just finished shoveling five inches of snow off my front stairs.   :D   :icon_scratch:



Not quite so extreme here:

Temps approached 50 F in the last few days and melted most of the ice off of the driveway.  We even got the two wheel drive car up to the cabin!  Snowcover was reduced to about 70%.

The snow is back! 

Sometime today i'll be plowing it.   There's 3-4" on the driveway now, with 3-5" more forecast by evening. 

Unlikely i'll see mail or UPS today.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 08:37:19 PM »
Just about the whole south east of oz  smashed the hottest day on record today Sydney alone at 46C/117F, unbelievable,  meanwhile bushfires still burn.
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