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Thousands of Dallas Students Displaced by Tornado Damage; Storms Turn Deadly in Arkansas, Oklahoma
By Ron Brackett and Jan Wesner Childs3 hours agoweather.com


Home Depot gets WRECKED!  All that great hardware down the tubes!  What a tragedy!

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Severe Storms Kill 4 in South, Dallas in Disarray
Severe storms swept across the South, killing at least four people, and spawning a tornado that left a miles-long trail of destruction in Dallas, Texas.
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    Severe thunderstorms hit the South Sunday night into early Monday.Passengers had to evacuate planes at Memphis International Airport.A tornado struck Dallas, damaging homes, businesses and knocking out power to tens of thousands.The EF3 tornado had winds up to 140 mph, according to the National Weather Service.Storms killed four people in Oklahoma and Arkansas.At least two public schools are likely a total loss.

Thousands of public school students in Dallas will be attending classes in different locations for at least the rest of the school year after a strong tornado left a miles-wide trail of destruction in the northern part of the city Sunday night.

Dallas schools superintendent Michael Hinojosa said in a press conference late Monday afternoon that two schools will likely have to be completely rebuilt and could be closed for 18 months or more, and another will need extensive repairs and will likely not reopen this school year.

The schools - Walnut Creek Elementary, Cary Middle School and Thomas Jefferson High School - are all within about a mile of each other in a section of the city where numerous homes and businesses were destroyed or damaged by the EF3 tornado.

More than 2,300 students attend the three schools, Hinojosa said. They will continue classes at other locations in the meantime.

The tornado that ripped through Dallas late Sunday was one of several severe storms that left a trail of damage across the South.

No deaths or serious injuries were reported from the tornado that struck about 9 p.m. CDT, according to a news release from the city of Dallas. Only three people were taken to local hospitals for evaluation of non-life-threatening injuries, the release said.

A National Weather Service survey team on Monday rated the tornado EF3, with estimated top winds of 140 mph.

Four deaths were attributed to the storms in other states, including two teenage boys who died of carbon monoxide poisoning in Oklahoma. They were using a portable gas generator inside a travel trailer after power was knocked out in the area, the Associated Press reported.

Storms also caused damage in Tennessee, Louisiana, Arkansas and Missouri overnight and Monday morning. Passengers were ordered off planes at Memphis International Airport after a tornado warning was issued for the area Monday morning. The airport reported minor damage.

As of 3:30 p.m. Monday, nearly 88,000 customers were still without power in Texas. More than 17,000 homes and businesses had no power in Arkansas, and about 24,000 were without power in Tennessee, according to poweroutage.com. More than 50,000 customers in northwest Indiana lost electricity as the storm system moved through the Great Lakes area Monday afternoon. Another 38,000 lost power in Wisconsin and Michigan.

(MORE: Dallas Tornado a Reminder the Fall Second Severe Weather Season Is Here)

In Dallas, homes and businesses were damaged, trees were scattered across roadways and tens of thousands of people lost electricity. Damage was also reported southwest of Dallas in Midlothian, Texas, and to the northeast in Richardson, Texas.
This home in Rowlett, Texas, was damaged when an EF-1 tornado touched down Sunday, October 20, 2019, according to the National Weather Service office in Forth Worth. (Twitter/NWS Fort Worth)
This home in Rowlett, Texas, was damaged when an EF1 tornado touched down Sunday, October 20, 2019, according to the National Weather Service office in Forth Worth.
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The National Weather Service office in Fort Worth sent survey teams to Dallas, Garland, Richardson, Rowlett and Sachse to assess the damage. Along with verifying the EF3 tornado in Dallas, the teams also confirmed that an EF1 tornado struck Rowlett in Dallas County and an EF0 tornado caused damage north of Wills Point in Van Zandt County.

More than 140,000 customers in Texas remained without electricity as of 8 a.m. Monday, according to poweroutage.com.

Many roads in the north Dallas area were closed by fallen trees or standing water, and numerous buildings collapsed or had their roofs ripped off.

(MORE: Home of Dallas Stars' Tyler Seguin Damaged by Tornado)

Seven people escaped a structure that collapsed in northwest Dallas, but Dallas Fire-Rescue was searching to see if anyone was left inside, spokesman Jason Evans said. WFAA reported that a convenience store collapsed in the storm, but the clerk told the station that everyone who was inside made it out safely.

The roof of a Home Depot store collapsed, and water gushed from broken pipes. A store employee told the Dallas Morning News workers had been sent home early ahead of the storms and no one was inside when the storm hit.

Parts of an apartment complex at Glenrio Lane and Ricksaw Drive were reduced to rubble, KXAS reported, but no one was injured.

"Considering the path that the storm took, it went across a pretty densely populated part of our city, I think we should consider ourselves very fortunate that we did not lose any lives, no fatalities and no serious injuries in last night's storm," Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson said in a news conference Monday morning.

Firefighters responded to "no less than 50 calls for utility wires down and over 40 natural gas leaks," Dallas Fire-Rescue Chief Dominique Artis said at the news conference. He also said the roof of Fire State 41 collapsed, but no firefighters were injured.

The Dallas Independent School District canceled Monday classes at six schools: David G. Burnet Elementary School, Leonides Gonzalez Cigarroa M.D. Elementary School, John J. Pershing Elementary School, Walnut Hill Elementary School, Edward H. Cary Middle School and Thomas Jefferson High School. The Episcopal School of Dallas also canceled classes. The schools are all in northwest Dallas.

Schools were also closed in Garland, Grand Prairie, Midlothian and Richardson.

The studio of KNON-FM, a Dallas radio station, suffered major damage from the tornado. One of the station's hosts, Lew Morris, told The Associated Press he and another employee took shelter in the bathroom.

"We then heard the building shaking and could hear the glass windows shattering everywhere along with debris banging around. We waited until all the noise died down," Morris said. "We walked out to see the studio he was just broadcasting from destroyed."
A possible tornado ripped over the roof of this home in Richardson, Texas, on Sunday, October 20, 2019. (Facebook/City of Richmond)
A possible tornado ripped over the roof of this home in Richardson, Texas, on Sunday, October 20, 2019.
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A number of homes were heavily damaged in the city of Richardson, Texas. Firefighters walked through neighborhoods checking on residents.

“It’s gone. It’s destroyed. Everything is gone,” Mena Gedlu told the Dallas Morning News. The roof was torn off the home she and her brother, Gizaw, share.

Severe storms packing damaging winds and large hail also struck parts of Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri and Tennessee Sunday night into early Monday.
Tennessee

In Memphis, Tennessee, passengers at Memphis International Airport had to evacuate planes after a tornado warning was issued. Social media posts said passengers had to leave their bags on the planes.

People were told to shelter in the airport restroom. Everyone had to go through security screenings again.

The Cottonwood Apartments, southeast of downtown Memphis, sustained major damage in the storm, according to WMC-TV.

Residents were unable to leave or enter the complex because of debris, the Commercial Appeal reported.

“The whole roof is off in parts of the complex, you can see straight into the apartments,” resident Mary Graham told the newspaper.

Giant trees and power lines across much of the Parkway Village area. More than 30,000 customers lost electricity in and around Memphis.

About 14 miles southeast of Memphis, fallen trees and power lines blocked roads in Germantown.
Arkansas

The Benton County Department of Public Safety confirmed one death from the storms in northwest Arkansas. A man was killed when a tree fell onto a home east of Rogers, Arkansas, Robert McGowen, the Benton County Public Safety Administrator, told weather.com.
Four people were injured after a tornado touched down about 6 a.m. Monday, October 21, 2019, in Tyronza, Arkansas, according to Poinsett County Sheriff Kevin Molder. (Twitter/NWS Memphis)
Four people were injured after a tornado touched down about 6 a.m. Monday, October 21, 2019, in Tyronza, Arkansas, according to Poinsett County Sheriff Kevin Molder.
(Twitter/NWS Memphis)

On the eastern side of the state, damage from an apparent tornado was reported in the town of Tyronza, Arkansas. Poinsett County Sheriff Kevin Molder told KAIT a gas station was destroyed and a few houses and buildings were “blown away” Monday morning. He said at least two people with injuries were taken to a hospital.

A tractor-trailer overturned on Interstate 55 near Tyronza during the storm, according to an Arkansas State Police dispatch officer.
Other States

One person died in Oklahoma when several large trees fell onto a mobile home near Valliant, trapping the occupants inside. Two people were rescued, but a third died in the home, according to a Facebook post from Valliant Emergency Management. Valliant is about 170 miles southeast of Oklahoma City. Wind damage and hail was also reported in Asher, Oklahoma.

In Louisiana, one person was injured by falling bricks when a possible tornado touched down about noon Monday near Geismer, about 18 miles southeast of Baton Rouge, WAFB reported.

Downed power lines contributed to an attic fire in a home near Bossier City, Louisiana, the NWS said. The occupant of the home was able to escape to safety.

In southern Missouri, a mobile home was blown off its foundation by damaging thunderstorm winds near Willow Springs.
A traffic light rests at a major intersection in the Preston Hollow section of Dallas Monday, Oct. 21, 2019 after a tornado tore homes and businesses apart in a densely populated area of Dallas Sunday night. (AP Photo/Jake Bleiberg)
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A traffic light rests at a major intersection in the Preston Hollow section of Dallas Monday, Oct. 21, 2019 after a tornado tore homes and businesses apart in a densely populated area of Dallas Sunday night. (AP Photo/Jake Bleiberg)
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☃️ Air from Siberia to send temperatures plunging from Texas to New England
« Reply #826 on: November 10, 2019, 01:42:19 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/09/air-siberia-temperatures-cold-texas-new-england

Air from Siberia to send temperatures plunging from Texas to New England

    National Weather Service says 200 records could fall
    Snow expected into Veterans Day holiday

Associated Press in Chicago

Sat 9 Nov 2019 12.44 EST
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Snow-covered farm fields make a quit-like patchwork near Bridgewater, South Dakota. Photograph: Jim Urquhart/Reuters
Air from Siberia heading towards a huge chunk of the US could set record low temperatures from Texas to New England between Monday and Wednesday.
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National Weather Service meteorologist Kevin Donofrio said on Saturday the National Digital Forecast Database indicated that some 200 records might fall.

For example, the expected high on Tuesday of 23F (-5C) at Chicago’s O’Hare airport would be a full 5F (3C) lower than the record-low set in 1995.

The cold front was expected to move through the upper midwest and the northern plains on Sunday, then continue south and east on Monday and Tuesday, sending temperatures below freezing all the way south to the Gulf coast.

The front will bring January-like temperatures to some locations that are expected to be as much as 30F (17C) colder than normal for the time of year.

Donofrio said the leading edge of the system would bring some snow this weekend and on Monday, which is the Veterans Day holiday. Although the snow is expected to taper off on Monday, temperatures are forecast to keep falling.
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Re: Crazy Weather
« Reply #827 on: November 11, 2019, 12:18:04 AM »
https://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/the-day-it-forgot-to-rain-on-australia-20191111-p539cy.html

A day without rain.

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Crazy Weather - Unseasonal Snow Storms Bury Parts of Iran and Morocco
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🦃 Turkey Day BOMBOGENESIS!
« Reply #831 on: November 26, 2019, 03:10:49 PM »
I'm going to make a Pizza. 🍕   :icon_sunny:

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'Bomb Cyclone' Winter Storm Will Hit U.S. As Thanksgiving Nears, Forecasters Warn

November 26, 20194:05 PM ET
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"Two back to back powerful storms will produce widespread heavy snow" in parts of western and central U.S., the National Weather Service says.
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Hurricane-force winds; blizzard conditions; heavy snowfall — and a "bomb cyclone" on the West Coast: those are the dire predictions of weather forecasters, who are warning Thanksgiving travelers to be cautious and prepare for delays, as two powerful back-to-back storms hit the western and central U.S. this week.

The National Weather Service's U.S. forecast map is draped in alarming shades of pink, purple and red, reflecting winter storm warnings that are in effect from California to Michigan. And the bad weather is expected to last: The winter storm warning posted by the NWS office in Las Vegas will remain in effect from 5 p.m. PT Tuesday through 4 a.m. PT Friday.

The warnings come as Denver and other cities are already coping with heavy snowfall from a winter storm that is hitting the southern and central Plains region. The NWS office in Cheyenne, Wyo., reports getting more than 12 inches of snow by midday on Tuesday. But elevated areas west of Fort Collins, Colo., reported more than 30 inches.

That storm is still developing and is expected to dump up to a foot of snow in a broad region by Thursday, as it moves from the Plains to the Upper Mississippi Valley, across the Upper Great Lakes and into northern Maine, the NWS says. It adds that heavy snow could affect travelers at airports from Denver to Minneapolis-St. Paul.
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Despite those high snow totals, the strongest winter storm is in the far West, where the system is coming in from the Pacific Ocean. It will start to hit Oregon and Northern California by Tuesday night, the weather service says. It adds that what could be a record-setting storm system will likely turn into a bomb cyclone — meaning the storm will intensify at an unusually rapid rate.

"This low pressure system will likely undergo bombogenesis (pressure drop of at least 24mb in 24 hours) by late Tuesday afternoon," the NWS says, "at which point it will likely become a sub-980 mb low with hurricane force winds over the offshore waters!"

Blizzard conditions are expected in the mountains of southern Oregon and northern California, with high waves and strong winds battering coastal areas as the storm comes in from the Pacific Ocean.

"Wind gusts are forecast to exceed 70 mph" near the coast of Oregon and Northern California, the NWS Weather Prediction Center says. By late Thursday, the Sierra Nevada range will likely see from 2-4 feet of snow.

"Portland's branch of the National Weather Service is recommending drivers take chains if they're moving through areas that might see snow," Oregon Public Broadcasting reports.

At lower elevations, strong winds and heavy rain could affect travelers at airports from San Francisco to Los Angeles, and from Las Vegas to Phoenix over the next few days.

"Be where you need to be by 8-10 a.m. Tuesday morning, or wait until Wednesday afternoon" to travel, the NWS office in Medford, Ore., warns. But the office also adds that even after the worst of the storm passes, perilous conditions such as black ice could pose a threat through the end of the week.

As the storm moves inland from the West Coast, it could also bring "a flash flood threat across coastal Southern California from San Diego to Los Angeles," the NWS says, saying the threat is especially acute in areas that have recently suffered wildfires.

In contrast to those imposing circumstances, the weather in most of the East Coast should be relatively quiet, the NWS says. But it also warns that strong winds will start to lash parts of the Northeast after the main storm moves off the coast of New England. Identifying a possible threat to the famous Thanksgiving Day parade in New York City, the weather service warns, "Wind gusts to 40+ mph are possible across New York City on Thursday."
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Re: 🦃 Turkey Day BOMBOGENESIS!
« Reply #832 on: November 29, 2019, 12:20:33 PM »
Not a great weekend for Happy Motoring.

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🦃 Denver hit with "ground blizzard" amid Thanksgiving snowstorm
« Reply #833 on: December 01, 2019, 12:56:01 PM »
Ground Blizzard!  That's a new one.  :o

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🚘 Winter storm wreaks havoc on morning commutes
« Reply #834 on: December 02, 2019, 08:05:20 AM »
File under not so Sunny in California. Hard to imagine driving through this shit to work. Actually, it's hard for me to imagine doing this type of commute every day even under good conditions, and I drove a Big Rig every day for 7 years!  Hell on Earth.

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🚘 Deadly winter storm slams the East Coast with snow, ice and rain
« Reply #835 on: December 03, 2019, 12:00:16 AM »
Tuesday commute not looking too good here either.

Wish we got Snow Days like this in NYC before Xmas when I was a kid!

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« Reply #836 on: December 13, 2019, 12:28:34 AM »
I will match your cold weather and raise you our rediculos heat wave exppected later in the week: 50 degrees c expected in some places. Thats 122 f in your ancient English scale. (Actually originally German I believe..)

https://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/like-a-furnace-massive-heatwave-could-roast-australian-records-20191213-p53jps.html

Anything over 42 or 43 is strating to get fucking hot.

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« Reply #837 on: December 13, 2019, 05:35:55 AM »
My question is sort of hypothetical/rhetorical. There is this idea that if there was a REAL weather disaster it would make all the climate deniers take notice that they were wrong and then they would magically forget their propaganda based FOX NEWS/KOCH Bros programing and demand some climate action. So, are any of those Aussies who keep voting in conservative coal digging climate deniers having any conversions due to heat induced mental states?? :icon_scratch:
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« Reply #838 on: December 13, 2019, 12:54:34 PM »
My question is sort of hypothetical/rhetorical. There is this idea that if there was a REAL weather disaster it would make all the climate deniers take notice that they were wrong and then they would magically forget their propaganda based FOX NEWS/KOCH Bros programing and demand some climate action. So, are any of those Aussies who keep voting in conservative coal digging climate deniers having any conversions due to heat induced mental states?? :icon_scratch:
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I have often asked myself similar questions.
The short answer:
Not many.
The less short answer: 
I believe climate deniers will die defending the satus que as they run out of water, food, get heat stroke or burn to death.
A longer answer:
Nothing will change peoples minds if they dont want to change. Its the old science Vs religion arguament. People somehow make a virtue out of still believing something despite evidence to the contrary. The more strong the evidence the more virtuous the denial. I have been told I amstupid for the simple preps I have done, (Gen set and water tanks etc), yet the same people will complain if the power goes out, or water restrictions means their gardens look poor. Not only are they deniers, but they believe it is their duty to discourage and in fact attack others who have a different opinion, or take actions. Its like they think you are acusing them of being lazy, or evil, even though all you are doing is minding your own business and looking after yourself. Once again sounds like Religion Vs science.. Or perhaps vegans Vs non-vegans. You are not allowed to do your thing as it offends others, and others are not allowed to be offended.

I have got to study pshychology when I retire. My logical engineer brain cant understand some people.

A mind blowing parable: (True story)
I gave a climate change skeptic I know a tree as a gift, as I often do to lots of people. No lecture, no strings attached or acusation, just a nice fruit tree to plant out and enjoy. That persons sibling warned me that if the tree burns down and so does their house that I would be blamed for giving the tree. I laughed and said that was rediculous. I am not forcing they to plant the tree near the house or at all. If they dont want it give it away. Nope. It will be my fault. I gave the tree. Of course when told this I gave a second tree.... ;D
No personal responsibility. Always someone else to blame. Always the victim. The governemnt/ police/ fire brgade/ schools/ local council/ (Insert any other person or group you want in here),  should hve done more for me. I demad the right to keep doing what I do despite any consequences for society or the environment.
Just blame the messenger. Same thing is happening with the young Sweedish girl Greta Thunberg (or something like that.). If you dont like her message ignore it. Instead grown men are going bonkers and attacking her as if she is causing climate chaos. I dont feel threatened by young sweedish girls. I dont feel threatened by many young girls.

I know several people who think climate change is just normal variation despite all evidence to the contrary. Its easy: Just google up your local climate change denier expert and watch a video. Much easier than researching proper science. Proper science gets vetted. Any moron can make a youtube video. The people I know who lost their house in Black Saturday fires still think all is normal. Heat waves happen reularly like they always have. They have rebuilt and this house will burn down in next catastrophic fires in the area.

I think it is willful ignorance. All people are born ignorant, but to remain so takes a conscious decision, and constant mental remedial action. Like cleaning out a septic tank. Every now and then you dig out the solids (facts) for disposal and just leave the shit and piss behind.....

Many people dont want to believe things are bad, or changing, or they might have had any hand in it. Easier to ignore and turn up the air conditioner than to accept whats happening. Once you accept it, you either get depressed or angry. Some even get motivated to do something.. Nobody wants to be depressed or angry. Even less want to get up off the couch and do something. I dont want to grow old either, but life is full of bad outcomes we dont have a choice in. Modern society seems to push the idea you dont have to be uncomfortable. Instant gratification and miracle cures are all around. No one wants to put in the effort anymore and have some discomfort.

I asked the same people what do you think will hapen when we run out of oil. They said we will find more. I explained the question in more detail going over how a finite resources cant be used forever. Got the same answer. We will find more.
When it gets hot, just turn the AC dial to 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

You cant apply logic to fight willfull ignorance. Dont try; its sends you fucking bonkers.

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« Reply #839 on: December 13, 2019, 02:55:17 PM »
My question is sort of hypothetical/rhetorical. There is this idea that if there was a REAL weather disaster it would make all the climate deniers take notice that they were wrong and then they would magically forget their propaganda based FOX NEWS/KOCH Bros programing and demand some climate action. So, are any of those Aussies who keep voting in conservative coal digging climate deniers having any conversions due to heat induced mental states?? :icon_scratch:
AJ

I have often asked myself similar questions.
The short answer:
Not many.
The less short answer: 
I believe climate deniers will die defending the satus que as they run out of water, food, get heat stroke or burn to death.
A longer answer:
Nothing will change peoples minds if they dont want to change. Its the old science Vs religion arguament. People somehow make a virtue out of still believing something despite evidence to the contrary. The more strong the evidence the more virtuous the denial. I have been told I amstupid for the simple preps I have done, (Gen set and water tanks etc), yet the same people will complain if the power goes out, or water restrictions means their gardens look poor. Not only are they deniers, but they believe it is their duty to discourage and in fact attack others who have a different opinion, or take actions. Its like they think you are acusing them of being lazy, or evil, even though all you are doing is minding your own business and looking after yourself. Once again sounds like Religion Vs science.. Or perhaps vegans Vs non-vegans. You are not allowed to do your thing as it offends others, and others are not allowed to be offended.

I have got to study pshychology when I retire. My logical engineer brain cant understand some people.

A mind blowing parable: (True story)
I gave a climate change skeptic I know a tree as a gift, as I often do to lots of people. No lecture, no strings attached or acusation, just a nice fruit tree to plant out and enjoy. That persons sibling warned me that if the tree burns down and so does their house that I would be blamed for giving the tree. I laughed and said that was rediculous. I am not forcing they to plant the tree near the house or at all. If they dont want it give it away. Nope. It will be my fault. I gave the tree. Of course when told this I gave a second tree.... ;D
No personal responsibility. Always someone else to blame. Always the victim. The governemnt/ police/ fire brgade/ schools/ local council/ (Insert any other person or group you want in here),  should hve done more for me. I demad the right to keep doing what I do despite any consequences for society or the environment.
Just blame the messenger. Same thing is happening with the young Sweedish girl Greta Thunberg (or something like that.). If you dont like her message ignore it. Instead grown men are going bonkers and attacking her as if she is causing climate chaos. I dont feel threatened by young sweedish girls. I dont feel threatened by many young girls.

I know several people who think climate change is just normal variation despite all evidence to the contrary. Its easy: Just google up your local climate change denier expert and watch a video. Much easier than researching proper science. Proper science gets vetted. Any moron can make a youtube video. The people I know who lost their house in Black Saturday fires still think all is normal. Heat waves happen reularly like they always have. They have rebuilt and this house will burn down in next catastrophic fires in the area.

I think it is willful ignorance. All people are born ignorant, but to remain so takes a conscious decision, and constant mental remedial action. Like cleaning out a septic tank. Every now and then you dig out the solids (facts) for disposal and just leave the shit and piss behind.....

Many people dont want to believe things are bad, or changing, or they might have had any hand in it. Easier to ignore and turn up the air conditioner than to accept whats happening. Once you accept it, you either get depressed or angry. Some even get motivated to do something.. Nobody wants to be depressed or angry. Even less want to get up off the couch and do something. I dont want to grow old either, but life is full of bad outcomes we dont have a choice in. Modern society seems to push the idea you dont have to be uncomfortable. Instant gratification and miracle cures are all around. No one wants to put in the effort anymore and have some discomfort.

I asked the same people what do you think will hapen when we run out of oil. They said we will find more. I explained the question in more detail going over how a finite resources cant be used forever. Got the same answer. We will find more.
When it gets hot, just turn the AC dial to 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

You cant apply logic to fight willfull ignorance. Dont try; its sends you fucking bonkers.

JOW

Willful Denial or Willful Ignorance is certainly a big part of the problem, but plain old STUPIDITY is an even bigger problem  You have to remember that 50% of all Homo Saps on the planet have an IQ under 100, and they mostly cannot grasp the problem at all.  Then my guess is that you find the Willfully Ignorant from 100 to 120 on the IQ scale.  Above 120 I think most of those folks understand it and the consequences of it, with a few who Deny it anyway because their jobs and high incomes depend on it.  Our former group Troll Moriarty (MKing) fits that category.


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