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Re: When Does Solicitation of Prostitution Turn Into Sexual Assault?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2018, 10:48:45 AM »

The truth of it all is this.  In real life hookers hold the cards and they can go forever without having sex.  They do it to get paid, no other reason.  Women who have become hookers are all as adept as their mental abilities allow them to be at manipulating men.  In America hookers are in constant demand as American women have put a 'price' on their pussies so high men simply can't afford their dysfunctional and atrophied parts.  I am not talking about only money here.  American women are lost in a romantic La-La land of mentations which have no connection to the real world.  We can't all buy you horse farms or give you 'the relationship you deserve' American woman, so American Hookers run the show.  They call the shots as they have since the country began.  American women don't know what relationship they want or what relationship they can even have, so American men not being able to provide it, whatever 'it' is, is understandable.

Only true for the sex addicted male.  Neither Hookers or typical women who want to be wined and dined before spreading their legs have any power over me anymore.  i am just not interested in what they have to sell anymore.  I feel sorry for the men who are so addicted.  Very sad.

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Re: When Does Solicitation of Prostitution Turn Into Sexual Assault?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2018, 10:51:49 AM »
When the government considers you a dangerous man. The guy who 3D printed guns and wanted to make money selling the software to do it, is being hunted down on the other side of the world because he paid a 16 year old for consensual sex here in Austin. Now, she's a victim, poor thing. I wonder if she had to give back the $500.


Taiwan Hunts for Cody Wilson After Underage Sex Accusation
3D-printed gun creator's last known location was Taipei

By Newser Editors and Wire Services
Posted Sep 20, 2018 5:47 AM CDT


(NEWSER) Taiwan said Thursday it is looking for the owner of a Texas company that makes untraceable 3D-printed guns who is wanted on an arrest warrant tied to an accusation that he had sex with an underage girl and paid her $500 afterward. The National Immigration Agency and Criminal Investigation Bureau confirmed that Cody Wilson was in Taiwan after arriving on the island earlier this month. Division Director Kan Yen-min was quoted by the official Central News Agency as saying the bureau has yet to receive intelligence from the US regarding Wilson, but will continue seeking more information about the case. Taiwan and the US do not have an extradition treaty but cooperate extensively on legal and security matters, reports the AP.

Austin, Texas, police Cmdr. Troy Officer said Wednesday that his department is working with national and international law enforcement agencies to find Wilson, whose last known location was Taiwan's capital, Taipei. Officer said it's unclear why Wilson went to Taiwan, but he is known to travel extensively. He said before Wilson flew there, a friend of the 16-year-old girl informed Wilson that police were investigating the accusation that he had sex with the youth. Wilson is identified in the affidavit as the owner of Austin-based Defense Distributed. After a federal court barred Wilson from posting the printable gun blueprints online for free last month, he announced he had begun selling them for any amount of money to US customers through his website.

http://www.newser.com/story/264876/taiwan-hunts-for-cody-wilson-after-underage-sex-accusation.html


$500 afterward ?!!!

It is NOT done that way.  It is not the same thing as paying a waitress in a restaurant.  Years ago dining and dashing in restaurants used to be a problem before surveillance cameras could record the crime.  But who is going to pay for a bad meal?  It has to be that way, but sex is different.  In the oldest profession 'payment first' evolved about 5000 years ago to prevent fucking and flying, and most 'dashing' in America is from 'poor victims' who take the money and run without providing service.  Prostitution being illegal allows exploitation of men to flourish and as women can't report crimes either, a certain kind of creep does exploit some of them too.

A Hollywood fantasy hooker in a TV drama might take money after.  She will also take $500 or more.  In the real world not so much; in the real world real men don't pay $500 for sex and they have to pay up front.  That simple fact makes the Austin article bullshit.  Historically the American price seems to be tied to what a 'working' man can take home in a day.  Sheet-rock guys are not going home with $500 bucks extra in their pocket every day. 

The truth of it all is this.  In real life hookers hold the cards and they can go forever without having sex.  They do it to get paid, no other reason.  Women who have become hookers are all as adept as their mental abilities allow them to be at manipulating men.  In America hookers are in constant demand as American women have put a 'price' on their pussies so high men simply can't afford their dysfunctional and atrophied parts.  I am not talking about only money here.  American women are lost in a romantic La-La land of mentations which have no connection to the real world.  We can't all buy you horse farms or give you 'the relationship you deserve' American woman, so American Hookers run the show.  They call the shots as they have since the country began.  American women don't know what relationship they want or what relationship they can even have, so American men not being able to provide it, whatever 'it' is, is understandable.   

Our social dysfunction, produces lonely American men who in desperation will pay for sex from women who are there to exploit their desperation and who absolutely will run out with their money first if they possibly can.  While I have written this I am sure a dozen American hookers have run out with customer money and left poor desperate suckers in the lurch.  Money is always paid first.  It may have happened the other way around, men robbing hookers, once in the same time period.  The ratio is at least a dozen to one the other way.

The myth that prostitution exploits women is alive and well in America and will not die soon.  America loves superheros and myths and regarding paid sex America has firmly chosen who the victims are in these transactions.  No counter argument will ever be allowed.  Men are never exploited by hookers, it is always the other way around in America.  Sexuality must be repressed, now more than ever!  The poor suffering angels must be saved so they can then save America from the evil patriarchy.



As no evidence could show a crime was committed no investigation is possible.  Hearsay should not be enough to sustain an investigation or even start one by any prosecuting attorney who wants to keep their job in an ideal world, but this is America.  Investigations which can't possibly result in an actionable result are an inappropriate use of public funds.

* Once I worked with a Seattle Cop in a high end hotel where I was a bellman and he was working security as a second job.  He had a special thing about running hookers out of the hotel.  This was pre-internet.  I asked them why his attitude was so hard nosed about them and he looked me straight in the eye.

'Every single one of them is a thief'  he said.

He was not wrong but we prefer fantasy to reality.
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Re: When Does Solicitation of Prostitution Turn Into Sexual Assault?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2018, 10:57:49 AM »

The truth of it all is this.  In real life hookers hold the cards and they can go forever without having sex.  They do it to get paid, no other reason.  Women who have become hookers are all as adept as their mental abilities allow them to be at manipulating men.  In America hookers are in constant demand as American women have put a 'price' on their pussies so high men simply can't afford their dysfunctional and atrophied parts.  I am not talking about only money here.  American women are lost in a romantic La-La land of mentations which have no connection to the real world.  We can't all buy you horse farms or give you 'the relationship you deserve' American woman, so American Hookers run the show.  They call the shots as they have since the country began.  American women don't know what relationship they want or what relationship they can even have, so American men not being able to provide it, whatever 'it' is, is understandable.

Only true for the sex addicted male.  Neither Hookers or typical women who want to be wined and dined before spreading their legs have any power over me anymore.  i am just not interested in what they have to sell anymore.  I feel sorry for the men who are so addicted.  Very sad.

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You took yourself voluntarily out of the game and the addiction is a function of having normal hormones.  Every man has to make some adjustment to deal with the 'addiction', good you are happy with yours.

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Re: When Does Solicitation of Prostitution Turn Into Sexual Assault?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2018, 11:00:37 AM »
When the government considers you a dangerous man. The guy who 3D printed guns and wanted to make money selling the software to do it, is being hunted down on the other side of the world because he paid a 16 year old for consensual sex here in Austin. Now, she's a victim, poor thing. I wonder if she had to give back the $500.


Taiwan Hunts for Cody Wilson After Underage Sex Accusation
3D-printed gun creator's last known location was Taipei

By Newser Editors and Wire Services
Posted Sep 20, 2018 5:47 AM CDT


(NEWSER) Taiwan said Thursday it is looking for the owner of a Texas company that makes untraceable 3D-printed guns who is wanted on an arrest warrant tied to an accusation that he had sex with an underage girl and paid her $500 afterward. The National Immigration Agency and Criminal Investigation Bureau confirmed that Cody Wilson was in Taiwan after arriving on the island earlier this month. Division Director Kan Yen-min was quoted by the official Central News Agency as saying the bureau has yet to receive intelligence from the US regarding Wilson, but will continue seeking more information about the case. Taiwan and the US do not have an extradition treaty but cooperate extensively on legal and security matters, reports the AP.

Austin, Texas, police Cmdr. Troy Officer said Wednesday that his department is working with national and international law enforcement agencies to find Wilson, whose last known location was Taiwan's capital, Taipei. Officer said it's unclear why Wilson went to Taiwan, but he is known to travel extensively. He said before Wilson flew there, a friend of the 16-year-old girl informed Wilson that police were investigating the accusation that he had sex with the youth. Wilson is identified in the affidavit as the owner of Austin-based Defense Distributed. After a federal court barred Wilson from posting the printable gun blueprints online for free last month, he announced he had begun selling them for any amount of money to US customers through his website.

http://www.newser.com/story/264876/taiwan-hunts-for-cody-wilson-after-underage-sex-accusation.html


$500 afterward ?!!!

It is NOT done that way.  It is not the same thing as paying a waitress in a restaurant.  Years ago dining and dashing in restaurants used to be a problem before surveillance cameras could record the crime.  But who is going to pay for a bad meal?  It has to be that way, but sex is different.  In the oldest profession 'payment first' evolved about 5000 years ago to prevent fucking and flying, and most 'dashing' in America is from 'poor victims' who take the money and run without providing service.  Prostitution being illegal allows exploitation of men to flourish and as women can't report crimes either, a certain kind of creep does exploit some of them too.

A Hollywood fantasy hooker in a TV drama might take money after.  She will also take $500 or more.  In the real world not so much; in the real world real men don't pay $500 for sex and they have to pay up front.  That simple fact makes the Austin article bullshit.  Historically the American price seems to be tied to what a 'working' man can take home in a day.  Sheet-rock guys are not going home with $500 bucks extra in their pocket every day. 

The truth of it all is this.  In real life hookers hold the cards and they can go forever without having sex.  They do it to get paid, no other reason.  Women who have become hookers are all as adept as their mental abilities allow them to be at manipulating men.  In America hookers are in constant demand as American women have put a 'price' on their pussies so high men simply can't afford their dysfunctional and atrophied parts.  I am not talking about only money here.  American women are lost in a romantic La-La land of mentations which have no connection to the real world.  We can't all buy you horse farms or give you 'the relationship you deserve' American woman, so American Hookers run the show.  They call the shots as they have since the country began.  American women don't know what relationship they want or what relationship they can even have, so American men not being able to provide it, whatever 'it' is, is understandable.   

Our social dysfunction, produces lonely American men who in desperation will pay for sex from women who are there to exploit their desperation and who absolutely will run out with their money first if they possibly can.  While I have written this I am sure a dozen American hookers have run out with customer money and left poor desperate suckers in the lurch.  Money is always paid first.  It may have happened the other way around, men robbing hookers, once in the same time period.  The ratio is at least a dozen to one the other way.

The myth that prostitution exploits women is alive and well in America and will not die soon.  America loves superheros and myths and regarding paid sex America has firmly chosen who the victims are in these transactions.  No counter argument will ever be allowed.  Men are never exploited by hookers, it is always the other way around in America.  Sexuality must be repressed, now more than ever!  The poor suffering angels must be saved so they can then save America from the evil patriarchy.



As no evidence could show a crime was committed no investigation is possible.  Hearsay should not be enough to sustain an investigation or even start one by any prosecuting attorney who wants to keep their job in an ideal world, but this is America.  Investigations which can't possibly result in an actionable result are an inappropriate use of public funds.

I see this one a little different, although you make good points.

I see this from three unique perspectives that I think are worth noting.

One thing is that I seriously doubt the manhunt would be going on if some anonymous rich guy set this girl up and banged her in a hotel. I expect he bragged about being famous, and the girl shared that with somebody (like, say, her mother) who was smart enough to see some dollar signs, or at least the 15 minutes of fame that were sure to happen if they ratted the guy out.

And....secondly, her underage status lets her play the victim card. She isn't a teenage gold digger, she's an abused child, and $500 is chump change compared with what she might extort from Mr. 3D handgun.

And...thirdly, the FBI has a raging hard-on for this guy. They'd love for him to resist, so they can just kill him and not have to prosecute at all.

One more thing.....I expect the $500 got spent. I think WHAT it went for would be a very interesting thing to know. Maybe I'm wrong and she held the cash because it had his fingerprints, but I bet not.

If it went for drugs, that tells you one thing. If it went for food or rent, that's another. It'd be interesting to know, but I'm pretty sure that won't make the news.  The cops would ask that, of course, but I wouldn't expect that information to leak. They have to protect the "victim".


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Re: When Does Solicitation of Prostitution Turn Into Sexual Assault?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2018, 11:35:03 AM »

You took yourself voluntarily out of the game and the addiction is a function of having normal hormones.  Every man has to make some adjustment to deal with the 'addiction', good you are happy with yours.


I had a solid 40 years of playing this game, and I just got tired of it.  In a Cost-Benefit analysis, it was a total loss.  Obviously many men can't realize that and so continue chasing pussy right up until they die.  I did not want to end up that way. So I quit.  Very liberating.

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