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« on: May 05, 2019, 02:48:36 PM »
Guy is going through a transitional period.  He wants to send out the appropriate doom leader signals but he has finally realized that saying we all cook next week isn't working out so well.  Consequently his message is moving in the direction that we are gyrating towards a  tipping point that once crossed makes us toast very quickly and Guy can't say when except that the coin toss comes up within a few years.  That is how I describe it. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/3SPiXBSjc-4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/3SPiXBSjc-4</a>

I once was very tolerant of Guy and felt he had a good 'wake up' message but some years have gone by and as it goes:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/XKVmpJaMffM" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/XKVmpJaMffM</a>

So Guy's illogical public misapprehension of positive feedback I now see as dangerous.  Guy actually has a narrow view of the situation and whatever happens, keep Guy away from numbers.  He specializes in extreme answers and two plus two for him is always one hundred except on Tuesdays when it is three hundred. 

The thing, is it was not Guy himself who really changed my mind about him though his actions have not helped.  With a deeper understanding of human nature I understand how easily people can be misled by bullshit and the bottom line is, a blue ocean in the Arctic does not cause the earth to suddenly cook and all life perishes.  Thom gave Guy enough time to go off the rails and he did. 

Guy came to Seattle a few years ago and I met him at a talk he gave.  Only four people showed up to see him.  Fringe science is not doing well unless it talks about AI and self-driving cars or drone delivery.  Calling Guy's science fringe is being kind.

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 08:42:49 AM »
JMG has a new screed.  He is back from creating his own reality and has a new one just for you.

https://www.ecosophia.net/a-conversation-with-the-world/

I do not agree.  I read the whole thing carefully.  I'm proud of myself through making it all the way through his usual 10000 words which is pretty controlling in itself.  Take that as humor please.  About what John says, I think.....

You all should make up your own mind!
I can't agree to make New Age the useful idiot of the day. 

To me it was like watching sausage being made for a very long time but you decide!
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 12:21:05 PM »
JMG has a new screed.  He is back from creating his own reality and has a new one just for you.

https://www.ecosophia.net/a-conversation-with-the-world/

I do not agree.  I read the whole thing carefully.  I'm proud of myself through making it all the way through his usual 10000 words which is pretty controlling in itself.  Take that as humor please.  About what John says, I think.....

You all should make up your own mind!
I can't agree to make New Age the useful idiot of the day. 

To me it was like watching sausage being made for a very long time but you decide!


Only I, (moi) would find this kat's brain squeezin's amusing & boring at the same time  :icon_sunny:

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2019, 01:29:39 PM »
I read the whole thing carefully.  I'm proud of myself through making it all the way through his usual 10000 words which is pretty controlling in itself.

You have more stamina than me.  I couldn't make it through 1000 words from JMG before heading to the throne and heaving the technicolor yawn.

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2020, 09:55:00 PM »
I'm reactivating this thread because people are losing their shit.  Specifically Doom so called gurus.  Nobody here who hadn't already lost it but I've noticed this virus crisis is revealing some very interesting things about people.  Leopards are showing their spots and inner assholes are coming out. 

More to come!
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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2020, 12:29:25 AM »
I'll start with JMG who went full on hot metal guru about a year ago when he dropped out of collapse to pursue spiritual matters with his:

https://www.ecosophia.net/ blog

Greer does not talk about collapse any more because like many narcissistic collapse gurus he has completed his study of the subject and feels he has said all there is to say about it. New initiates can reference previous writings. His current feature; hold on to your hats is:


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The Astrologer of Narragansett Bay
April 1, 2020

John Michael Greer

114 Comments   

A month ago I recounted the story of Johannes Kelpius, the German occultist who crossed the Atlantic in 1694 with his fellow initiates of the Chapter of Perfection to make a new life for themselves in the woodlands of eastern Pennsylvania... 

Wow, talk of a German occultist on a day when the number of American dead from COVID-19 is shooting up to hundreds a day.  I'm not impressed.  (going by the article publication date now it is 1000+ a day) But if you have Aspergers and brag about it like it gives you special powers then you can do anything you want.  You are a superior life form.

Still raking in the green with a loyal following of sheep King Greer represents an emerging theme among collapse gurus.  Now that a real collapse has happened, even though likely temporary, they do not know what to do or say.  In JMG's case he should be spouting knowledge of ancient plagues.  Black death statistics and all that.  How people behaved back in the day.  Did Thorserin Veblen have anything to say about the Spanish Flu? 

Instead Greer does a Biden and is MIA.  I'd think some of his following would be expecting guidance.  And if Greer gets around to it maybe his sheep will get some.

Am I cruel?  No. Everyone I'll be mentioning in this little private rant of a mini-series has tried to use the internet to enrich themselves.  It has not been about their message but about their egos.  Greer actually publishes books and on that level has some respectability over others; but now we are in a crisis.  People should get their money's worth and JMG is not delivering.  Exit stage left.

Next up I'll be ranting about Guy McPhearson who has been totally caught off-guard.  There is at least one guru to talk about after that but you have to wait.  And for the series to continue, I'll need comments.

What do you say?
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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2020, 03:38:52 AM »
I'll start with JMG who went full on hot metal guru about a year ago when he dropped out of collapse to pursue spiritual matters with his:

https://www.ecosophia.net/ blog

Greer does not talk about collapse any more because like many narcissistic collapse gurus he has completed his study of the subject and feels he has said all there is to say about it. New initiates can reference previous writings. His current feature; hold on to your hats is:


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The Astrologer of Narragansett Bay
April 1, 2020

John Michael Greer

114 Comments   

A month ago I recounted the story of Johannes Kelpius, the German occultist who crossed the Atlantic in 1694 with his fellow initiates of the Chapter of Perfection to make a new life for themselves in the woodlands of eastern Pennsylvania... 

Wow, talk of a German occultist on a day when the number of American dead from COVID-19 is shooting up to hundreds a day.  I'm not impressed.  (going by the article publication date now it is 1000+ a day) But if you have Aspergers and brag about it like it gives you special powers then you can do anything you want.  You are a superior life form.

Still raking in the green with a loyal following of sheep King Greer represents an emerging theme among collapse gurus.  Now that a real collapse has happened, even though likely temporary, they do not know what to do or say.  In JMG's case he should be spouting knowledge of ancient plagues.  Black death statistics and all that.  How people behaved back in the day.  Did Thorserin Veblen have anything to say about the Spanish Flu? 

Instead Greer does a Biden and is MIA.  I'd think some of his following would be expecting guidance.  And if Greer gets around to it maybe his sheep will get some.

Am I cruel?  No. Everyone I'll be mentioning in this little private rant of a mini-series has tried to use the internet to enrich themselves.  It has not been about their message but about their egos.  Greer actually publishes books and on that level has some respectability over others; but now we are in a crisis.  People should get their money's worth and JMG is not delivering.  Exit stage left.

Next up I'll be ranting about Guy McPhearson who has been totally caught off-guard.  There is at least one guru to talk about after that but you have to wait.  And for the series to continue, I'll need comments.

What do you say?

I'd say good rant, and let's have moar.

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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2020, 05:17:29 AM »
I'll start with JMG who went full on hot metal guru about a year ago when he dropped out of collapse to pursue spiritual matters with his:

https://www.ecosophia.net/ blog

Greer does not talk about collapse any more because like many narcissistic collapse gurus he has completed his study of the subject and feels he has said all there is to say about it. New initiates can reference previous writings. His current feature; hold on to your hats is:


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The Astrologer of Narragansett Bay
April 1, 2020

John Michael Greer

114 Comments   

A month ago I recounted the story of Johannes Kelpius, the German occultist who crossed the Atlantic in 1694 with his fellow initiates of the Chapter of Perfection to make a new life for themselves in the woodlands of eastern Pennsylvania... 

Wow, talk of a German occultist on a day when the number of American dead from COVID-19 is shooting up to hundreds a day.  I'm not impressed.  (going by the article publication date now it is 1000+ a day) But if you have Aspergers and brag about it like it gives you special powers then you can do anything you want.  You are a superior life form.

Still raking in the green with a loyal following of sheep King Greer represents an emerging theme among collapse gurus.  Now that a real collapse has happened, even though likely temporary, they do not know what to do or say.  In JMG's case he should be spouting knowledge of ancient plagues.  Black death statistics and all that.  How people behaved back in the day.  Did Thorserin Veblen have anything to say about the Spanish Flu? 

Instead Greer does a Biden and is MIA.  I'd think some of his following would be expecting guidance.  And if Greer gets around to it maybe his sheep will get some.

Am I cruel?  No. Everyone I'll be mentioning in this little private rant of a mini-series has tried to use the internet to enrich themselves.  It has not been about their message but about their egos.  Greer actually publishes books and on that level has some respectability over others; but now we are in a crisis.  People should get their money's worth and JMG is not delivering.  Exit stage left.

Next up I'll be ranting about Guy McPhearson who has been totally caught off-guard.  There is at least one guru to talk about after that but you have to wait.  And for the series to continue, I'll need comments.

What do you say?

I'd say good rant, and let's have moar.



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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2020, 09:05:34 AM »
I'll start with JMG who went full on hot metal guru about a year ago when he dropped out of collapse to pursue spiritual matters with his:

https://www.ecosophia.net/ blog

Greer does not talk about collapse any more because like many narcissistic collapse gurus he has completed his study of the subject and feels he has said all there is to say about it. New initiates can reference previous writings. His current feature; hold on to your hats is:


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The Astrologer of Narragansett Bay
April 1, 2020

John Michael Greer

114 Comments   

A month ago I recounted the story of Johannes Kelpius, the German occultist who crossed the Atlantic in 1694 with his fellow initiates of the Chapter of Perfection to make a new life for themselves in the woodlands of eastern Pennsylvania... 

Wow, talk of a German occultist on a day when the number of American dead from COVID-19 is shooting up to hundreds a day.  I'm not impressed.  (going by the article publication date now it is 1000+ a day) But if you have Aspergers and brag about it like it gives you special powers then you can do anything you want.  You are a superior life form.

Still raking in the green with a loyal following of sheep King Greer represents an emerging theme among collapse gurus.  Now that a real collapse has happened, even though likely temporary, they do not know what to do or say.  In JMG's case he should be spouting knowledge of ancient plagues.  Black death statistics and all that.  How people behaved back in the day.  Did Thorserin Veblen have anything to say about the Spanish Flu? 

Instead Greer does a Biden and is MIA.  I'd think some of his following would be expecting guidance.  And if Greer gets around to it maybe his sheep will get some.

Am I cruel?  No. Everyone I'll be mentioning in this little private rant of a mini-series has tried to use the internet to enrich themselves.  It has not been about their message but about their egos.  Greer actually publishes books and on that level has some respectability over others; but now we are in a crisis.  People should get their money's worth and JMG is not delivering.  Exit stage left.

Next up I'll be ranting about Guy McPhearson who has been totally caught off-guard.  There is at least one guru to talk about after that but you have to wait.  And for the series to continue, I'll need comments.

What do you say?

It was evident long ago that JMG and almost any collapse guru you could name....and all the survivalist and prepper Utubers too..... were exploiting their readership for money.

The Diner is the only exception I really know of.....other than the open source permies,  who were never that way at all. The Diner is also the only place I know of you can log in and argue your case for whatever approach you happen to think might work and talk about it with other readers....with little or no censorship.

JMG in particular never wanted to hear any feedback...he knows everything. Too bad he lives in WV where the armed rednecks will be barbecuing people who look like him the week after the stores close.



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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2020, 06:40:53 PM »
I appreciate the feedback so it is time for another episode of cult leaders exposed.  Oh yeah.

We have to cut the bullshit, Diners are not dumb people.  9 out of 10 Diners can figure out that our government is lying when they say face masks are ineffective and don't stop the spread of the COVID-19 virus.  In the general population the number which can smell this bullshit through a mask drops to 2 in 10.  Diners know bullshit.

If a particle has to pass through a layer of paper to get to you.  Do you think the chance it might get caught in the paper first before it gets to you is greater than zero?   :cwmddd:  Don't read on until you can answer. DUH!

Do you also think the chance that it will be caught is less than 100%.  DUH again!  A mask is likely better than nothing, not perfect but better than nothing!  Under the right circumstances then a mask will SAVE YOUR ASS.  And you can figure this stuff out and don't even have to be peer reviewed or get an online certificate to do it.

So it is with aerosol masking, one of Guy McPherson's pet parlor tricks.  Obviously if there are particles in the air there is going to be an effect on cloud formation and if there are more clouds from more particles there will be more solar energy reflected out to space.  DUH!  Guy has been claiming for years that if Western Industrial Civilization grinds to a halt, we all cook because the aerosol masking goes away.  The problem is there has never been any hint that aerosol masking is significant and if aerosol masking is as important as Guy claims, traffic changes over long weekend holidays should show it as an anomaly somewhere in the data.  That has never happened, not once, ever.

The truth being that Guy puts on a Dinner Theater show in rented spaces across the country so people will contribute to the gift economy so to gift Guy with cash.  He may protest that there isn't enough money in it or some such and he could be right, but it does not matter.  Stories from various women suggest another reason for Guy's tireless dedication to free travel, free food and free lodging and it might be the pleasures of the flesh. 

Regardless Guy is a charlatan who has known all along that a methane bomb won't suddenly blow up and that Western Industrial Civilization would never grind to a ..........................  What is that word?  Oh yeah 'halt'.  That just could not happen.


Guy did not anticipate that everyone might stay home and watch You Tubes in a pandumbic.  That the air would suddenly clear and reveal the aerosol masking effect for the exaggerated bullshit it is.  Revealing it to be something Guy just pulled out of his ass.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/O_a__gLCu6Q" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/O_a__gLCu6Q</a>

It was a close one for Guy but he scrambled.  He brought plants to the rescue.  This has been done before!  What do plants crave..............Brawndo Aerosol Masking.  It is what plants crave!  Aerosol masking has electrolytes!


Plants save humanity again.  In his video Guy explains lack of aerosol masking kills plants first.  Then we die.  Everything remains on schedule as Guy explains.  Guy was not wrong, you were, and he will tell you so.  You forgot about the lag.  Guy never said we were going to die a day after aerosol masking stopped and he reminds you in his video.

Guy knows damn well that we are all not going to be sitting home two months from now watching You Tube.  Not all of us anyway.  Plants will be getting their life saving blanket of aerosol masking again soon enough and Guy absolutely knows it.  Life for Guy will soon return to normal and he can relax for more of the gift economy and pu..... is on his way. 

Guy knows plants won't die before a lock-down ends.  He has his ass covered.  But it was a close one, who kouda-knowd we would have a real live dress rehearsal for collapse in our lifetime.  Not Guy that is for damn sure because anybody who really believes in collapse and takes it seriously knows that it just can not happen over night.  Talking about us all cooking like a bug on a hot skillet in two years gets Guy real steak dinners.  But the rest of us need to keep it real.

Guy is obviously more intimately connected with his income stream than JMG though both have been gurus for years.  The next parasite I'll be reviewing depends on comments.  There are many available choices.  I am open to suggestions.
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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2020, 09:53:08 PM »
Guy is obviously more intimately connected with his income stream than JMG though both have been gurus for years.  The next parasite I'll be reviewing depends on comments.  There are many available choices.  I am open to suggestions.

Be interesting to hear your take on James Howard Kunstler. I second the opinions of others and believe this should be a post on the front page especially if you can make comments on a good number of "cult leaders". I do believe for better or worse Gail Tverberg and Chris Martenson do seem genuine and do seek to promote a message; they are not in it to primarily stroke their egos/incomes. Your take on those would also be welcomed if you have the inclination to comment...

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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2020, 09:38:05 AM »
I appreciate the feedback so it is time for another episode of cult leaders exposed.  Oh yeah.

We have to cut the bullshit, Diners are not dumb people.  9 out of 10 Diners can figure out that our government is lying when they say face masks are ineffective and don't stop the spread of the COVID-19 virus.  In the general population the number which can smell this bullshit through a mask drops to 2 in 10.  Diners know bullshit.

If a particle has to pass through a layer of paper to get to you.  Do you think the chance it might get caught in the paper first before it gets to you is greater than zero?   :cwmddd:  Don't read on until you can answer. DUH!

Do you also think the chance that it will be caught is less than 100%.  DUH again!  A mask is likely better than nothing, not perfect but better than nothing!  Under the right circumstances then a mask will SAVE YOUR ASS.  And you can figure this stuff out and don't even have to be peer reviewed or get an online certificate to do it.

So it is with aerosol masking, one of Guy McPherson's pet parlor tricks.  Obviously if there are particles in the air there is going to be an effect on cloud formation and if there are more clouds from more particles there will be more solar energy reflected out to space.  DUH!  Guy has been claiming for years that if Western Industrial Civilization grinds to a halt, we all cook because the aerosol masking goes away.  The problem is there has never been any hint that aerosol masking is significant and if aerosol masking is as important as Guy claims, traffic changes over long weekend holidays should show it as an anomaly somewhere in the data.  That has never happened, not once, ever.

The truth being that Guy puts on a Dinner Theater show in rented spaces across the country so people will contribute to the gift economy so to gift Guy with cash.  He may protest that there isn't enough money in it or some such and he could be right, but it does not matter.  Stories from various women suggest another reason for Guy's tireless dedication to free travel, free food and free lodging and it might be the pleasures of the flesh. 

Regardless Guy is a charlatan who has known all along that a methane bomb won't suddenly blow up and that Western Industrial Civilization would never grind to a ..........................  What is that word?  Oh yeah 'halt'.  That just could not happen.


Guy did not anticipate that everyone might stay home and watch You Tubes in a pandumbic.  That the air would suddenly clear and reveal the aerosol masking effect for the exaggerated bullshit it is.  Revealing it to be something Guy just pulled out of his ass.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/O_a__gLCu6Q" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/O_a__gLCu6Q</a>

It was a close one for Guy but he scrambled.  He brought plants to the rescue.  This has been done before!  What do plants crave..............Brawndo Aerosol Masking.  It is what plants crave!  Aerosol masking has electrolytes!


Plants save humanity again.  In his video Guy explains lack of aerosol masking kills plants first.  Then we die.  Everything remains on schedule as Guy explains.  Guy was not wrong, you were, and he will tell you so.  You forgot about the lag.  Guy never said we were going to die a day after aerosol masking stopped and he reminds you in his video.

Guy knows damn well that we are all not going to be sitting home two months from now watching You Tube.  Not all of us anyway.  Plants will be getting their life saving blanket of aerosol masking again soon enough and Guy absolutely knows it.  Life for Guy will soon return to normal and he can relax for more of the gift economy and pu..... is on his way. 

Guy knows plants won't die before a lock-down ends.  He has his ass covered.  But it was a close one, who kouda-knowd we would have a real live dress rehearsal for collapse in our lifetime.  Not Guy that is for damn sure because anybody who really believes in collapse and takes it seriously knows that it just can not happen over night.  Talking about us all cooking like a bug on a hot skillet in two years gets Guy real steak dinners.  But the rest of us need to keep it real.

Guy is obviously more intimately connected with his income stream than JMG though both have been gurus for years.  The next parasite I'll be reviewing depends on comments.  There are many available choices.  I am open to suggestions.


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Have I got some baby eatin' Cult Leading campfire stories for this thread. Who-weeee  :icon_mrgreen:
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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2020, 09:50:41 AM »

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/news/20190220/young-blood-clinics-shut-down-after-fda-action


https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/5898#section=IUPAC-Name

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You donít know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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Re: Cult Leader News
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2020, 09:59:53 AM »

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/news/20190220/young-blood-clinics-shut-down-after-fda-action


https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/5898#section=IUPAC-Name

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/0A90B_maGu4&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/0A90B_maGu4&fs=1</a>


37,000 children have been freed from there cages for purposes of harvesting Adrenachrome. They're being moved to the hospital ships off the Cali Coast.

The U.S. Navy & Marines performed this brave task below the China lake Cali. test facility. It's all goin' down now as we speak.







« Last Edit: April 05, 2020, 10:03:06 AM by azozeo »
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You donít know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2020, 10:12:16 AM »

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/news/20190220/young-blood-clinics-shut-down-after-fda-action


https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/5898#section=IUPAC-Name

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/0A90B_maGu4&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/0A90B_maGu4&fs=1</a>


37,000 children have been freed from there cages for purposes of harvesting Adrenachrome. They're being moved to the hospital ships off the Cali Coast.

The U.S. Navy & Marines performed this brave task below the China lake Cali. test facility. It's all goin' down now as we speak.






I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why youíre here. Youíre here because you know something. What you know you canít explain, but you feel it. Youíve felt it your entire life, that thereís something wrong with the world.
You donít know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

 

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