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Interesting disturbance
« on: June 29, 2019, 10:20:00 AM »
"Damn the Matrix" blog spotted an interesting segment taken from a Jordan Peterson interview in an academic setting from the looks of it.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/pBbvehbomrY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/pBbvehbomrY</a>

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To which I couldn't resist commenting onsite :

😉 … the angst of having just recently come to the realization that your ideology brought us the dead end not only fast & furious but packaged and shipped so the consumer can have a transcendent unboxing experience is so palpable !!
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That being said, he at least seems to be on the cusp of making a roughly adequate diagnosis and revealing his ‘work in progress’ at that event must have disturbed a few ‘safe spaces’ … which is always good to be honest.

… it certainly disturbed a few of his most clueless and indoctrinated fans if the YouTube comment section is any indication.
Man can do what he will, but he cannot will what he wills.
­~ A. Schopenhauer

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Re: Interesting disturbance
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2019, 10:57:34 AM »
If it weren't for automobiles, then maybe that idea that lifting people out of poverty would help the environment might be true. Because of cars, I think he's wrong.

Peterson gets that from POV he's latched onto from some European  scientist he likes who approaches the problem by working on overpopulation...can't seem to find him at the moment, but he's out there. It's a given that birth control would make a difference. Overpopulation and what happens with climate change going forward...these things ARE very connected,

He also gets a lot right about the likelihood of a solution. As in, it's totally fucking hopeless, short of figuring out thorium power, something that big...Or some strange unforeseen natural happening. Like Yellowstone really does blow Wyoming and Montana off the map and the dust cloud changes everything, and we have an ice age.

But the trend is not our friend, and NOTHING anybody is doing has or is about to do anything that matters on climate. It's enough to make you turn into a nihilist, if you let it.

Anyway, I don't agree with him.......and already said elsewhere on the forum that JP gets climate wrong......but like  he does with most things, he can make a decent  argument for whatever he thinks. One thing he points out that  is true, is that there is more unknown than is  known, and it isn't easy to crunch the data we do have and get accurate predictions.

But it's plenty bad enough, and more importantly, it has to be self-correcting, because humans have already shown that they aren't about to do shit about it.



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Re: Interesting disturbance
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2019, 01:34:40 PM »
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Anyway, I don't agree with him.......and already said elsewhere on the forum that JP gets climate wrong......but like  he does with most things, he can make a decent  argument for whatever he thinks. One thing he points out that  is true, is that there is more unknown than is  known, and it isn't easy to crunch the data we do have and get accurate predictions.

Same here ... I just enjoy watching [any] live reaction to a "The Trend Is Not Our Friend" exposé   :D

Man can do what he will, but he cannot will what he wills.
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