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Aug 15, 2019
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The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal Is Much Bigger Than Jeffrey Epstein


Jeffrey Epstein with former associate Ghislaine Maxwell. (YouTube screen grab)

What follows is a conversation between journalist Whitney Webb and Marc Steiner of The Real News Network. Read a transcript of their conversation below or watch the video at the bottom of the post.

MARC STEINER Welcome to The Real News Network. I’m Marc Steiner. Great to have you all with us. Jeffrey Epstein is at the top of every news cycle, and dominates our digital social media world. His trafficking of young girls, children to satisfy his and the sexual preferences of so many of the rich and powerful, are the center of all this, as are his connections to that dark world of the unseemly side of the interaction between government, business, and the intelligence world, allegedly.

Using sex as blackmail is nothing new. It goes back to the early mob, the CIA, and seems to connect the dots to Epstein. That was the story we’re going tell today, written by our guest, who wrote this for Mint Press in the three-part series called Jeffrey Epstein Scandal, Too Big to Fail. The three parts were Hidden in Plain Sight, Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump’s Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era, and Mega, Maxwells and Massad: The spy story at the heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal.

Whitney Webb is a Mint Press news journalist based in Chile who has written and contributed to many, many outlets and joins us now from her home there. And welcome. Good to have you with us, Whitney.

WHITNEY WEBB Hi, thanks so much for the opportunity.

MARC STEINER So let’s begin this how this sort of journey began for you because it seems that the heart of what you’re doing here is saying what Epstein was accused of doing, what he did is nothing new in our annuls with this history that there’s using sexual blackmail. It goes way back to the mob, to Meyer Lansky, to the founding of the CIA. So talk a little about that, the genesis of this.

WHITNEY WEBB OK. So what I hope to show in my reporting is that this is not a type of operation or a scandal really that began or ends with Jeffrey Epstein now that he has died. As you mentioned, my report tries to go as far back as possible to really see where these sexual blackmail operations began in the context of this network to which Jeffrey Epstein was later connected. And from my research, it was first pioneered by Meyer Lansky and the national crime syndicate in the late thirties, he was sending Virginia Hill, who’s often been called the mistress of the mob, he was sending her to Mexico to try and lure foreign diplomats and to bug departments and use that for blackmail purposes. Not long after that, Lansky became an associate, well, he was a covert associate at the time with the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services during World War II.

When they formed, the OSS formed this alliance, which they said was out of war-time necessity, right, with figures in the criminal underworld, including Lansky and some others, in what was known as Operation Underworld, which was a government operation during the war that was denied for, I think, 40 years. Afterward, that alliance, even though it was supposed to be just for the war, it continued on. It continued to grow and really proliferated, especially after the 1960s when the CIA hired several Lansky associates for assassination teams, especially in relation to their efforts to assassinate Fidel Castro in Cuba and some other activities.

And during the same time we also see sexual blackmail operations with a lot of associates of Lansky and powerful people in government take office, and that really began during the anti-communist crusade of the 1950s and the McCarthy era and involved a prominent businessman who was the owner of Schenley liquors, Lewis Rosenstiel, who was a long-time associate of Meyer Lansky. It involved Roy Cohn, who was a general counsel to McCarthy during this time and also J. Edgar Hoover, director of the FBI at the time and very famous for his interest in acquiring large amounts of blackmail, was also involved in this ring that involved children, specifically boys and it continued for decades and eventually Roy Cohn took it over from Lewis Rosenstiel.

The relationship between Rosenstiel and Cohn was often described as father and son or that Rosenstiel was his mentor. Cohn eventually took this over what had originally been run out of Lewis Rosenstiel’s personal home and began to run it out of what became a rather infamous suite in the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan, Suite 233, that was sometimes called the Blue Suite, and he would host these sorts of events there with recording equipment and all of that, that were used to blackmail powerful people, first in the McCarthy era, and later on.

And as I show in part two of my report, these sorts of networks, Roy Cohn was not the only one. There were some other ones that the CIA was running in the late ’70s that were connected to disgraced CIA agent Edwin Wilson. And then after that when, in the 1980s with Iran-Contra and Bill Casey and all of that, there were several other sexual blackmail operations or child trafficking rings that were connected to prominent players in the Iran-Contra scandal.

MARC STEINER So some of what you’re talking about here, let me just be clear about a couple of things before I ask this next question. What you’ve just described, especially about the blue room and what went on in those places, this is not alleged, there’s these facts. These are things that are corroborated, correct?

WHITNEY WEBB Right. With the Plaza Hotel, this was actually admitted. Roy Cohn actually admitted this to the face of an NYP detective that was in charge of human trafficking division at the time because Roy Cohn knew he was untouchable because of his extreme connections to the politically powerful, the media and also the criminal underworld. He basically felt like he was immune enough to be able to say that point so blankly for this person’s face. It was also private investigators in New York that looked into Roy Cohn for various reasons, also confirm the existence of this blue suite as it was called. And it was also referenced by Louis Rosenstiel’s ex-wife in divorce filings. And it also came to light during the early 1970s, a committee on crime in New York.

MARC STEINER So let me then, I want you in a, in a broad sense, say we don’t have like an hour here to do this, but I wish we did because there’s three parts. This is huge. There’s so much to pull out of there. But make for us this moment before I have other questions, the connecting the dots. You talk about Meyer Lansky and Rosenstiel, who owns Schenley Liquors and the connections to Roy Cohn and Maxwell, the man who owned the Fox News and more, and his daughter.

WHITNEY WEBB Oh, Rupert Murdoch?

MARC STEINER I meant Maxwell, actually, not Murdoch. I meant Maxwell.

WHITNEY WEBB Oh, I’m sorry.

MARC STEINER It was my fault. I misspoke. And then, and so you make these connections between these people that lead you in some senses to Epstein. So what is that arc, can you paint that arc briefly for us?

WHITNEY WEBB OK. Well there’s actually a whole bunch of different connections to Jeffrey Epstein from here. So basically I talked about the OSS. It’s believed that Donald Barr originally hired Jeffrey Epstein to work in the Dalton School and Donald Barr had previously worked at the OSS. After that, he was hired to work at Bear Stearns. Alan Greenberg was a close friend of Roy Cohn and actually was the honorary chairman of a dinner for him that was honoring Roy Cohn, I believe in 1983, and the other honorary chairmen were other close friends of Roy Cohn, including Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump.

After he left Bear Stearns in 1981 he, according to journalist, Vicky Ward, was a financial bounty hunter of sorts, looking [inaudible] money for governments and powerful people. The Evening Standard of England later reported that during that time Epstein claimed that he was working for the CIA. Vicky Ward later said that one of his clients, during that time was [inaudible]. He was known to be working for the Massad. He was also working for the CIA and he was a major player in this Iran-Contra scandal. Then in 1987, he meets up with Leslie Wexner who has connections to this Meyer Lansky crime syndicate, as I point out in part three. He also meets up with Steve Hoffenberg who he allegedly met through John Mitchell, who was the former attorney general to Richard Nixon, and Mitchell was actually cited as a friend by Craig Spence, a disgraced Washington lobbyist who was also running a sexual blackmail operation with children. That was discovered in the late 80s and Craig Spence, in some similarity to Jeffrey Epstein, was found dead under somewhat mysterious circumstances and his death was ruled a suicide.

MARC STEINER So far as we know.

WHITNEY WEBB Right, and that takes us up to 1991, which right after that, that’s the same year that Robert Maxwell died, as well as several other people that were connected to the Promis software scandal, not just Maxwell. That includes Senator Towers also died that year, as did journalist Danny Casolaro, who was investigating that scandal. And even after Robert Maxwell died, his daughter Ghislaine Maxwell, moved to New York and began her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And as I point out in part three of my series, Robert Maxwell was known to be an operative for the Massad and did several favors for Israel over the course of his career and was also using the Daily Mirror Group, some of the funding for that, to fund Massad operations in Europe. So the intelligence links, I think, are very clear and that’s just the early history. We’re not even getting in to the 90s yet. And I’m going to be delving more into those connections in part four of my series, which I hope to be out in a few days.

MARC STEINER I’m looking forward to reading that, but let me just talk about how this all fits together and what it really means. So these last two pieces, I mean, so when you write in the piece, you say Epstein appears to have had ties to Israeli intelligence and has well documented ties to an influential Israeli politicians and the Mega Group. We’ll talk about that. And it was revealed that Epstein had evaded stricter sentencing 2008 due to his links to “intelligence”. It was the Massad ties to Maxwell’s daughter that alleged that Epstein’s sexual blackmail operation was sharing incriminating information with Massad. But one of the things that, in the pieces that you write, you use words like appear instead of like, we know, so what do we know? Talk about how you make these connections and what we really know and what we really don’t know. You know, what’s alleged and what’s real.

WHITNEY WEBB Okay. Well, I mean there’s a lot of claims I make in the story. So to go over all of them and say, you know, what appears to be, and like definitely what is … What we do know, right, is that our claims that Epstein made in the past, for example, that he worked for the CIA, we know from journalists that are considered reputable sources when covering Epstein, like Vicky Ward for example, that he had working for people like at [inaudible] who are known to have been linked to Massad. We know that his biggest patron, financial patron was Leslie Wexner who has been tied to organized crime syndicates according to a 1985 Columbus, Ohio murder investigation.

We know that he was recording sexual black—, that Jeffrey Epstein was recording sexual blackmail. We know that Alex Acosta claimed the reason he approved that sweetheart deal was because he had been told that Epstein was linked to intelligence, though he did not specify which intelligence agency and given the network and the associations that I’ve already laid out, which are documented, right, it certainly is an overwhelming amount of evidence, of circumstantial evidence nonetheless, but or of circumstantial evidence, I guess you could say, but the amount of it really makes a convincing case that this is a much larger network that has documented ties to operations involving sexual blackmail that preceded Epstein and that Epstein is more … because of what we know he was doing and we know he had ties to a lot of the people that had been tied to those previous sexual blackmail operations, to me, it really shows that Epstein was carrying on an operation that he did not invent, right?

This is something that did not begin and did not end with him and he was just perpetuating this and I think that’s why it’s really important once it’s [inaudible] , some of the narratives that have come out around this case, that Epstein was solely responsible for all of this activity and that he had deceived the billionaires who funded him and that this is all to be blamed on a single man. I think if we do that, we’re really doing his victims an injustice because this is something much larger than Epstein. And if the other people and other parties responsible or not pursued or held to account, this is likely to continue well into the future. And because of the, what I would say the disgusting nature of Epstein’s activities, I think most Americans have a vested interest in preventing these type of operations from continuing and especially if intelligence agencies are involved, that suggests that American taxpayer money is being used in some capacity to fund these operations.

MARC STEINER So, and finally here, I mean there’s two things, there’s so much we could talk about here, but these two things, I mean is it … a conversation I had yesterday is that, was around … conspiracy theories are great, but what we need is real reporting and intelligence work, police work and congressional investigations to see what, where’s the there there and how do you put these dots together so they become fact and not possibilities. And so, and I think that’s the important piece here is I think you made a strong point when you said you can’t just blame this all on one man, Epstein. There are too many other connections out there.

So where do you take this then? For you, what does this say in the final analysis about what might be going on here? And I know that this is in some ways conjecture and speculation, because even though you find these connections that sometimes there’s nothing really to tie them together in terms of fact yet. So where do you take this?

WHITNEY WEBB Well, I think there definitely needs to be an independent investigation. I think a lot of the people that are involved in the current investigations, including Bill Barr, I don’t think many Americans should be confident in what he will turn up.

MARC STEINER You make the Barr/Epstein connection in your third part of your series.

WHITNEY WEBB Right, yeah. But beyond that, Bill Barr also was known for stonewalling the Church committee in the late 70s, and he was particularly trying to prevent the CIA’s use of sexual blackmail operations from coming to light for the Church committee. I think that is at least like significant as is the fact that he justified the legal pardons of numerous Iran-Contra figures and including, and given the role of many Iran-Contra figures in this network that I describe in my reporting, I don’t really see him as being an impartial investigator here. And also the fact that he worked for the law firm that defended Epstein later on in the 2000s, I think is just, you know-

MARC STEINER And his father hired Epstein.

WHITNEY WEBB Right, exactly. And that he’s going to get to the, you know, that Bill Barr will get to the bottom of this. I don’t, I don’t really buy that, so I think there needs to be a more independent investigation. Concerns have also been raised about the fact that, you know, Epstein was trying to blackmail people. Now that blackmail has fallen, whoever raided Epstein’s properties, depending on who’s using that, it could even be Bill Barr that now has control over this blackmail material. It’s hard to know if he will be using it, if that will just go away or Bill Barr will use it for his own political agendas now given his history. So I think that’s something to be concerned about. And also the fact that there may be several members of Congress, if there’s a congressional investigation, that may have been tied up in this, we don’t know all the names.

A lot of the documents haven’t come out. Now that Epstein is dead, that criminal case will go away. And so a lot of the evidence uncovered during discovery will not be made public. So I think it is necessary for the public to pressure for transparent campaigns and for other conspirators in this, or co-conspirators, what Epstein was doing, especially Blaine Maxwell and Leslie Wexner, that they’d be pursued and questioned by law enforcement.

MARC STEINER Well, I look forward to talking, greatly, some more with you. And you’ve taken on a lot of very powerful names and people in your piece. I hope you feel safe in what you’re doing.

WHITNEY WEBB Yeah, I’m not worried.

MARC STEINER Yeah, but I do look forward to this fourth piece and then maybe we can get the fourth piece, we can have a more lengthy conversation and kind of try to tie these pieces together. And I want to thank you for joining us today and good luck.

WHITNEY WEBB Absolutely. Thanks again.

MARC STEINER And I’m Marc Steiner here for the Real News Network. Please let us know what you think. Take care.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/prince-andrew-statement-appalled-jeffrey-epstein-sex-abuse-claims-2019-8

Prince Andrew says he's 'appalled' by sex abuse claims lobbed at Jeffrey Epstein and denies he participated in activities with underage women
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Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Andrew, Duke of York appear on the balcony during Trooping The Colour, the Queen's annual birthday parade, on June 08, 2019 in London, England. Samir Hussein/WireImage

    Prince Andrew made a public statement on Sunday following the release of a 2010 video showing him inside Jeffrey Epstein's mansion.
    In the statement released by Buckingham Palace, the Duke said that he was "appalled" by recent accusations of sexual abuse lobbed at his former friend, and said allegations that he was involved in any "exploitation" are "abhorrent."
    The relationship between Epstein and Prince Andrew has come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks after unsealed documents made public this month allege that the British royal made sexual advances on two young women recruited for him by Epstein's former girlfriend and British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.
    Epstein was a registered sex offender and died by apparent suicide last week while he was awaiting trial for sex trafficking and conspiracy charges. He had pleaded not guilty to the charges, which carried a jail sentence of up to 45 years.

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Prince Andrew made a public statement on Sunday following the release of a 2010 video showing him at financier Jeffrey Epstein's mansion, saying he was "appalled" by the recent accusations of sexual abuse lobbed at his former friend.

Epstein, 66, died by apparent suicide last week while he was being held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan as he awaited trial for sex trafficking and conspiracy charges. He had pleaded not guilty to the charges, which carried a jail sentence of up to 45 years.

The connections between Epstein and Prince Andrew have resurfaced in recent weeks, after unsealed documents, made public this month, allege that the British royal made sexual advances on young women recruited for him by Epstein's former girlfriend and British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.


Andrew and Virginia Roberts Giuffre, along with Ghislaine Maxwell. This photo was included in an affidavit in which Giuffre alleged Prince Andrew directed her to have sex with him. Florida Southern District Court

The two women named in the incident, Johanna Sjoberg and Virginia Roberts Giuffre, previously alleged to have been recruited by Epstein's associates to perform massages that quickly devolved into sexual abuse. Giuffre said she was recruited at 15 years old.

Prince Andrew said in a statement released by Buckingham Palace Sunday that allegations that he was involved in any "exploitation" are "abhorrent."

"The Duke of York has been appalled by the recent reports of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes," the statement said.

"His Royal Highness deplores the exploitation of any human being and the suggestion he would condone, participate in or encourage any such behaviour is abhorrent."

Though Buckingham Palace has never denied a friendship between the disgraced financier and the prince, the royal family has repeatedly denied sexual relations between Prince Andrew and Giuffre or other underage women.

Read more: New charges against Jeffrey Epstein highlight his reported past ties to the British royal family

Epstein and Prince Andrew reportedly formed a close friendship through the late '90s and early 2000s after being introduced by Maxwell. The prince stepped down from his 10-year role as the special UK representative for trade in 2011 following criticism over his close friendship with the registered sex offender Epstein.

The royal statement follows a video released by the Daily Mail on Sunday reportedly taken outside Epstein's Manhattan home in December 2010, which shows the Duke briefly peering out and waving from behind the mansion's front door.

According to the Daily Mail, the footage was taken less than an hour after Epstein left the house with a young blonde woman. The duke was also photographed strolling alongside Epstein in Central Park in 2010.

Shortly after legal documents related to the sex-trafficking charges against Epstein — which laid out allegations by Sjoberg and Giuffre — were published last week, the Queen was photographed sitting next to her son as they were driven to Crathie Kirk church in Scotland near Her Majesty's holiday home.

Buckingham Palace also issued a statement to CBS News last week, saying that "any suggestion [against Prince Andrew] of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue."
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
These parasites think they have divine power due to their god given birthright to do what they want to who ever they want.
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
These parasites think they have divine power due to their god given birthright to do what they want to who ever they want.
Pigs the lot of them.
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Famed pathologist Michael Baden says Jeffrey Epstein’s death was homicide

By Lee Brown

October 30, 2019 | 7:53am | Updated


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New York City’s former chief medical examiner insisted Wednesday that Jeffrey Epstein’s death was a homicide.

Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden was hired by the pedophile’s brother, Mark Epstein, to observe his autopsy after he was found hanged in his Manhattan lockup in August.
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“I think that the evidence points toward homicide rather than suicide,” Baden insisted on Fox News Wednesday.

“The brother is concerned that if [Epstein] was murdered, then other people who have information might be at risk,” Baden insisted, suggesting powerful players may have been involved in the death.

“If they think he has information, his life could be in jeopardy.”

Baden said there were signs of “unusual” activity “from day one” of the autopsy, saying the wounds were “more consistent with ligature homicidal strangulation.”

Baden noted two fractures on either side of Epstein’s larynx, and one on the hyoid bone, above the moneyman’s Adam’s apple.

“Hanging does not cause these broken bones and homicide does,” he insisted on Fox. “A huge amount of pressure was applied.”

Baden also called for federal prosecutors to release the findings from DNA samples.
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“They took fingernail clippings to see if there’s anybody else’s DNA on it and that hasn’t been released, neither has information about whose DNA is on the ligature out of torn strips of orange sheets,” he said.

“Whoever made it has to have a lot of DNA on it and the brother has been asking for that from day one.”

He also questioned the supposed “total breakdown in security,” with the “extremely unlikely” coincidences of two guards falling asleep while video cameras in Epstein’s cell and hallway were also not working.

“Occasionally a guard falls asleep — never two guards at the same time,” he said on Fox.

“The issue would be, did somebody come in and cause his death?”

There would be no shortage of people keen to kill the pedophile, the pathologist admitted.

“There were 800 other people in the correctional facility and most of them would have liked to have gotten their hands on him,” he said, both because of the sex crimes and the chance to “make a name for themselves.”

However, he stressed, “A number of people had to be involved if this was a homicide.”

“It’s 80 days now and the brother feels he is getting a runaround,” Baden said.

“He thinks that his brother wasn’t the type to commit suicide but he wants to get the information that he hasn’t been able to get so far.”
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Will he see time in the Big House?  Unlikely.  And precisely what does being "fired" mean here in this context?  What did he ever really DO to begin with?  ???   :icon_scratch:  I mean, besides fuck teenage models?

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-andrew-how-the-queen-forced-her-favorite-son-to-step-down-from-royal-public-life-over-jeffrey-epstein

How Palace Fear of U.S. Epstein Probe Forced the Queen to Fire Prince Andrew
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Royal briefings are making it clear the duke was fired—and the termination is permanent, as he prepares to speak to investigators about his ties to the dead American pedophile.
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Updated Nov. 21, 2019 7:47AM ET / Published Nov. 21, 2019 5:39AM ET
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Disgraced royal Prince Andrew is preparing to give evidence to the Jeffrey Epstein inquiry in the U.S., and courtiers at Buckingham Palace believe a demand for testimony may be imminent.

Andrew made it clear in his resignation statement that he would cooperate with law enforcement as they investigated Epstein.

    The U.S. Document Cache That Could Sink Prince Andrew
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The Daily Telegraph reported Thursday that Buckingham Palace is braced for U.S. authorities to issue the duke with a subpoena, requesting he gives testimony under oath about his friendship with Epstein.

Following his statement, Andrew would have little choice but to comply.

Gloria Allred, the celebrity lawyer representing some of Epstein’s alleged victims, was quick to demand Andrew voluntarily contact U.S. authorities “without conditions and without delay,” asking the question: “Is he insisting that he be served with a subpoena to testify, or is he willing to speak to law enforcement without being legally required to do so?”

That such the threat of subpoena should be hanging over Andrew goes a long way to explaining his mystifying decision to give an hour-long interview to one of the U.K.’s most-feared political interviewers.

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It was widely speculated after Andrew did the ill-advised sit-down that he had done it because he suspected he was about to be subpoenaed by U.S. authorities. Andrew had hoped, according to the theory, to get out ahead of any such action. He hoped the interview would allow him to win over public opinion before law enforcement closed in.

In the end, of course, the interview had the opposite effect, and by his haughty manner, extraordinary denials, provably false claims, unwillingness to regret his friendship with Epstein, and failure to express any sympathy for Epstein’s victims, Andrew dug his own grave.

Now, it seems, flashing blue lights may be a part of Andrew’s royal afterlife.

    Charles and Andrew: Royal Princes at War
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The brutal ouster, when it came, was worthy of the nickname the royals use for themselves, “The Firm.”

Late Wednesday afternoon, Prince Andrew issued the statement that brought his public life to an end. He claimed it was his decision and that he had sought the queen’s “permission” to withdraw from public duties for the foreseeable future, but the truth was far from that.

Royal briefings are making it very clear today that he was fired—and the termination is permanent.
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“The bottle of whisky and the pearl-handled revolver were laid out for him. And they were laid out for him by his mother,” one source told The Daily Beast.

But behind his mother’s brutal sacking many detect the guiding hand of Prince Charles, who has sought to exclude Andrew from the royal family since 2012, and who finally seized the opportunity Wednesday.

The Queen has been locked in phone calls with Charles, who is on tour in New Zealand, since the crisis broke.

Writer Penny Junor, who has worked closely with Charles on biographies and is a trusted confidante of the palace, told The Daily Beast that she suspected Charles had played a significant role in the hit, saying: “I imagine there might have been a bit of pressure on him to make this announcement, and I suspect that might have come from his older brother.”

Andrew was quickly pulled from a scheduled visit to flood victims in northern England as plans for his demise were sealed. He was summoned to Buckingham Palace from his home in Windsor on Wednesday afternoon, where he was told it was over.

Andrew was told he would no longer to have any frontline duties representing the family. He was told he was to stand down immediately from his 200 charitable patronages. He was told that he would immediately lose his £250,000 per annum grant.

The one crumb of comfort came when duke was told he would still be welcome at family occasions, so expect to see him at Sandringham walking to church on Christmas Day.

Like all well-executed hits, Andrew, a friend told the Daily Beast, had no idea what was about to happen. Indeed, he was planning a trip to the Middle East this weekend as part of his business startup program.

In fact, according to the Queen’s biographer Robert Hardman, writing in the Daily Mail today, the Queen and Charles reached their decision Tuesday night when Andrew became a subject of discussion in a BBC debate between rival politicians Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn, who are squaring up for an election on Dec. 12.

A member of the public asked the leaders whether the monarchy was fit for purpose: Corbyn’s sly response that it “needs a bit of improvement” got a thunderous response.

That the monarchy should be a bona fide talking point in a general election was a huge red flag and a reminder of 1992, when the Queen apologized to then Prime Minister John Major that the breakdown of the marriage between Duke and Duchess of York intruded on the election. It seems another such apology, necessitated by the same member of the royal family, may be necessary this time.

Unbelievably, just 24 minutes after Andrew’s statement had been released, the Queen was making a public appearance, presenting her old friend Sir David Attenborough with a lifetime achievement award.

She even managed to crack a joke and there was laughter as she told the TV legend: “Sir David, this award recognizes your many talents and one can’t help but feel that, for those of us of a certain generation, we can take great pleasure in proving age is no barrier to being a positive influence.”

The Queen kept a smile pasted on her face throughout, but don’t mistake that for any pleasure at Andrew’s demise. She will be devastated at the tragedy that has befallen her favorite son, just a few months short of his 60th birthday.

In a bitter irony, yesterday marked what should have been a joyous day of celebration as it marked the Queen’s 72nd wedding anniversary.

Yet just minutes after one of the most sickening decisions of her career, Her Majesty was doing exactly what being the perfect royal requires—sublimating her emotions to the service of the Crown.

The contrast with Andrew could hardly be greater, and now he has the rest of his life to ponder what might have been.
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Will he see time in the Big House?  Unlikely.  And precisely what does being "fired" mean here in this context?  What did he ever really DO to begin with?  ???   :icon_scratch:  I mean, besides fuck teenage models?

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-andrew-how-the-queen-forced-her-favorite-son-to-step-down-from-royal-public-life-over-jeffrey-epstein

How Palace Fear of U.S. Epstein Probe Forced the Queen to Fire Prince Andrew
INSIDE A ROYAL HIT


Royal briefings are making it clear the duke was fired—and the termination is permanent, as he prepares to speak to investigators about his ties to the dead American pedophile.
Tom Sykes
Updated Nov. 21, 2019 7:47AM ET / Published Nov. 21, 2019 5:39AM ET
JOHN THYS

Disgraced royal Prince Andrew is preparing to give evidence to the Jeffrey Epstein inquiry in the U.S., and courtiers at Buckingham Palace believe a demand for testimony may be imminent.

Andrew made it clear in his resignation statement that he would cooperate with law enforcement as they investigated Epstein.

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The Daily Telegraph reported Thursday that Buckingham Palace is braced for U.S. authorities to issue the duke with a subpoena, requesting he gives testimony under oath about his friendship with Epstein.

Following his statement, Andrew would have little choice but to comply.

Gloria Allred, the celebrity lawyer representing some of Epstein’s alleged victims, was quick to demand Andrew voluntarily contact U.S. authorities “without conditions and without delay,” asking the question: “Is he insisting that he be served with a subpoena to testify, or is he willing to speak to law enforcement without being legally required to do so?”

That such the threat of subpoena should be hanging over Andrew goes a long way to explaining his mystifying decision to give an hour-long interview to one of the U.K.’s most-feared political interviewers.

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It was widely speculated after Andrew did the ill-advised sit-down that he had done it because he suspected he was about to be subpoenaed by U.S. authorities. Andrew had hoped, according to the theory, to get out ahead of any such action. He hoped the interview would allow him to win over public opinion before law enforcement closed in.

In the end, of course, the interview had the opposite effect, and by his haughty manner, extraordinary denials, provably false claims, unwillingness to regret his friendship with Epstein, and failure to express any sympathy for Epstein’s victims, Andrew dug his own grave.

Now, it seems, flashing blue lights may be a part of Andrew’s royal afterlife.

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The brutal ouster, when it came, was worthy of the nickname the royals use for themselves, “The Firm.”

Late Wednesday afternoon, Prince Andrew issued the statement that brought his public life to an end. He claimed it was his decision and that he had sought the queen’s “permission” to withdraw from public duties for the foreseeable future, but the truth was far from that.

Royal briefings are making it very clear today that he was fired—and the termination is permanent.
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“The bottle of whisky and the pearl-handled revolver were laid out for him. And they were laid out for him by his mother,” one source told The Daily Beast.

But behind his mother’s brutal sacking many detect the guiding hand of Prince Charles, who has sought to exclude Andrew from the royal family since 2012, and who finally seized the opportunity Wednesday.

The Queen has been locked in phone calls with Charles, who is on tour in New Zealand, since the crisis broke.

Writer Penny Junor, who has worked closely with Charles on biographies and is a trusted confidante of the palace, told The Daily Beast that she suspected Charles had played a significant role in the hit, saying: “I imagine there might have been a bit of pressure on him to make this announcement, and I suspect that might have come from his older brother.”

Andrew was quickly pulled from a scheduled visit to flood victims in northern England as plans for his demise were sealed. He was summoned to Buckingham Palace from his home in Windsor on Wednesday afternoon, where he was told it was over.

Andrew was told he would no longer to have any frontline duties representing the family. He was told he was to stand down immediately from his 200 charitable patronages. He was told that he would immediately lose his £250,000 per annum grant.

The one crumb of comfort came when duke was told he would still be welcome at family occasions, so expect to see him at Sandringham walking to church on Christmas Day.

Like all well-executed hits, Andrew, a friend told the Daily Beast, had no idea what was about to happen. Indeed, he was planning a trip to the Middle East this weekend as part of his business startup program.

In fact, according to the Queen’s biographer Robert Hardman, writing in the Daily Mail today, the Queen and Charles reached their decision Tuesday night when Andrew became a subject of discussion in a BBC debate between rival politicians Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn, who are squaring up for an election on Dec. 12.

A member of the public asked the leaders whether the monarchy was fit for purpose: Corbyn’s sly response that it “needs a bit of improvement” got a thunderous response.

That the monarchy should be a bona fide talking point in a general election was a huge red flag and a reminder of 1992, when the Queen apologized to then Prime Minister John Major that the breakdown of the marriage between Duke and Duchess of York intruded on the election. It seems another such apology, necessitated by the same member of the royal family, may be necessary this time.

Unbelievably, just 24 minutes after Andrew’s statement had been released, the Queen was making a public appearance, presenting her old friend Sir David Attenborough with a lifetime achievement award.

She even managed to crack a joke and there was laughter as she told the TV legend: “Sir David, this award recognizes your many talents and one can’t help but feel that, for those of us of a certain generation, we can take great pleasure in proving age is no barrier to being a positive influence.”

The Queen kept a smile pasted on her face throughout, but don’t mistake that for any pleasure at Andrew’s demise. She will be devastated at the tragedy that has befallen her favorite son, just a few months short of his 60th birthday.

In a bitter irony, yesterday marked what should have been a joyous day of celebration as it marked the Queen’s 72nd wedding anniversary.

Yet just minutes after one of the most sickening decisions of her career, Her Majesty was doing exactly what being the perfect royal requires—sublimating her emotions to the service of the Crown.

The contrast with Andrew could hardly be greater, and now he has the rest of his life to ponder what might have been.


One of these inbred, unibrow, psychopaths has to take one for the team. Andy got the short straw.
The heats on & the royals know it.

Where's triple 6 ? Why doesn't he chime in on this ?
I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world.
You don’t know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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Where's triple 6 ? Why doesn't he chime in on this ?

If you mean Monsta666, he's been Walkabout for quite a while.

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Prince Andy is next to swing from a light fixture.

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All will be forgiven in due course since the victims are only peasants. This is all theatre.

 

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