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Exposed: the money trail running from the Kremlin to Lev Parnas to Rudy Giuliani to Donald Trump

For weeks now, the various pieces of the puzzle have been coming together Ė and whatís going on here keeps becoming more obvious. Now, thanks to the final piece of the puzzle, we can draw a straight money line from the Kremlin to Donald Trump, based entirely on publicly available information.

Earlier this month it was reported that Lev Parnas received a million dollar bank deposit from an account in Russia in September. Today, federal prosecutors confirmed in court that the million dollars came from Kremlin oligarch Dmitry Firtash, who has long been suspected of having funded the Ukraine antics of Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani.

When you take the million dollar payoff from the Kremlin to Lev Parnas, and combine it with the half million dollar payoff from Lev Parnasí company to Rudy Giuliani, you can draw a straight money line from the Kremlin to Rudy. When you add in that Rudy is providing legal services to Donald Trump for free, it means the Kremlin is funding Rudyís representation of Trump. In other words, Putin didnít just fund Trumpís Ukraine extortion scandal; Putin is paying for Trumpís legal defense.

This changes a few things. First, itís a reminder that even though two articles of impeachment have been finalized against Donald Trump (for now), the investigatory process is still ongoing, and the criminal scandal is still unfolding. Second, it places Lev Parnas in even more legal jeopardy, and could motivate him to provide additional cooperation beyond the evidence heís turned over to the House. Finally, itís the latest reminder that with Trump, all roads really do lead to Putin.


BUT......Hunter Biden!!!!

I'm waiting for the dozen of hearings a la Benghazi.
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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2020, 05:43:56 PM »
The reliable (and daily) Heather Cox Richardson--
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/january-14-2020

January 14, 2020

One of the reasons I refuse to make predictions about the future of the Trump administration, or even of the impeachment process, is that things are changing every. single. minute.

Tonight, just on the cusp of the House articles of impeachment going over to the Senate, the House Intelligence Committee, the Committee on Oversight and Reform, and the Committee on Foreign Affairs transmitted to the House Judiciary Committee some of the material it has garnered from indicted political operative Lev Parnas’s phones. While there were two files—one is secret because it involves sensitive personal information—the other has provided material that is a game changer in three ways.

First of all, much of it is damning in its own right. Second, it will force Trump either to admit he was part of the Ukraine scheme all along or to call his friend (and sometime lawyer) Rudy Giuliani a liar. Third, it will add fuel to the fire that is making Trump so terribly angry and erratic these days, which will likely mean his behavior will only get worse. But with this new material in front of them, along with more that we have not seen, it is unlikely Republican leaders will be willing to continue to defend him except in the most general of ways.

The documents begin with a series of notes apparently written by Parnas on the stationery of the Ritz-Carleton in Vienna They literally start with him writing: “get Zalensky to Announce that the Biden case will Be Investigated.” They note that Dimitry Firtash, the Ukrainian oligarch we now know was funding the whole Ukrainian escapade, and who is living in Vienna, was “*Toxic,*” and noted “*Rudy.*” Indeed, skeptic that I am, these notes seem almost too perfect, and I would worry they were constructed after the fact for his defense except that these devices were confiscated upon Parnas's arrest.

There is also a May 10, 2019 letter from Rudy Giuliani, representing himself as Trump’s personal lawyer, to the newly elected Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, asking Zelensky for a meeting. “In my capacity as personal counsel to President Trump and with his knowledge and consent,” he asked for a meeting to discuss a particular matter. This runs counter to Trump’s frequent insistence that whatever he did in Ukraine was for the American people: here Giuliani lays out that whatever is happening is for Trump himself. Also, remember that on November 26, Trump denied that he had directed Giuliani to ask Zelensky about the Bidens. But now it seems there is evidence Giuliani was acting with Trump’s “knowledge and consent.” Trump will have to distance himself from this… but can he? It seems likely Giuliani has dirt on Trump from the days when Giuliani was the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York from 1983-1989, the heyday of Trump’s rise in New York real estate, as Giuliani has previously hinted.

There are also texts from Giuliani to Parnas, saying that he can overrule the decision of the Ukraine embassy, then under the direction of Marie Yovanovitch, not to give Viktor Shokin, the corrupt former Prosecutor General of Ukraine, a visa. He texted: “It’s going to work I have no 1 in it”

There is sharing of stories from Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, and Don Bongino about attacks on US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovich.

And, following these texts, in an exchange that has had Twitter on fire since the documents dropped, Connecticut congressional hopeful Robert F. Hyde and an unknown (to us) correspondent, although it seems likely to be Lev Parnas, appear to show that Hyde had Ambassador Yovanovitch under surveillance, and that he explored having her attacked or assassinated. It is worth, in this context, remembering that Trump told Zelensky that Yovanovitch was “going to go through some things,” suggesting that he knew about this plot.

“Fuck that bitch,” Hyde wrote on March 22, 2019. (Yovanovitch was highly regarded, and one of our very top diplomats.)

The next day he texted: “Wow. Can’t believe Trumo [sic] hasn’t fired this bitch. I’ll get right in that”

Then: “She under heavy protection outside Kiev”

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: “I know crazy shit”

Hyde: “My guy thinks maybe FSB..?” [FSB is Russian security]

More exchanges of news stories about removing Yovanovitch.

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “What should I do with this?

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They are moving her tomorrow

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “The guys over they asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “Wake up Yankees man”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “She’s talked to three people. Her phone is off. Computer is off.”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “She’s next to the embassy”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “Not in the embassy”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “Private security. Been there since Thursday”

Likely Parnas: March 25, 2019 “Interesting”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They know she’s a political puppet”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They will let me know when she’s on the move”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “And they’ll let me know when she’s on the move”

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: March 25, 2019: “Perfect”

Hyde: March 25, 2019, “I mean where if they can find out.”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “That address I sent you checks out”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “It’s next to the embassy”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They are willing to help if we/you would like a price”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money… what I was told”

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: “Lol”

Hyde: March 26, 2019: “Update she will not be moved special security unit upgraded force on the compound people are already aware of the situation my contacts are asking what is the next step because they cannot keep going to check people will start to ask questions”

Hyde: March 26, 2019: “If you want her out they need to make contact with security forces”

Hyde: March 26, 2019: “From Ukrainians”

Hyde: March 27, 2019: “What’s the word bro”

Hyde: March 27, 2019: “Any good stuff?

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: March 27, 2019: “Call you soon in studio.”

… those texts go on, but that’s the gist.

You will remember that Yovanovitch was recalled from Ukraine abruptly out of concerns for her safety. Hyde, who is running for Congress from Connecticut, tweeted a picture of Yovanovitch while she was testifying before the House. It falsely accused her of a number of crimes and said: “Maria is a yuge pos. She has so much dirt on the Clinton’s and Bidens. Such a scumbag. #draintheswamp#mariaisatraitor#trump2020#hyde2020.” When reached for comment after this story broke, Hyde wrote: “Bull Schiff is a giant b*tch.”

A couple of other points before I fall back into bed to try to break this bug. In the letter transmitting the material, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff wrote “Despite unprecedented obstruction by the President, the Committee continues to receive and review potentially relevant evidence and will make supplemental transmittals… as appropriate.”

Now, if you were someone trying desperately to protect the president, wouldn’t this give you pause? You have no idea what’s out there. Surely, the news that there are text messages contemplating an attack on an American ambassador will make you wonder what else these bozos felt it was okay to put in writing. Do you really want to be on record for these people?

When this story broke, a friend texted me to ask if Trump was really the Godfather. I answered no. The leaders of the Italian mafia at the turn of the last century had to be incredibly smart because the system was stacked against them. They had to be able to evade laws, and police forces, and community standards, or be arrested. Today’s criminals have the benefit of a generation of laws rigged in their favor, so they did not have to be clever. All they had to be was corrupt.

And, hoo, boy… were they corrupt.

(Another unedited night. I cannot seem to break this bug. Thanks for your patience.)

—-

Notes:

Files: [url=https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_hpsci_transmittal_letter_to_hjc_-_new_evidence_attachment.pdf]https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_hpsci_transmittal_letter_to_hjc_-_new_evidence_attachment.pdf[/url]

Trump on Yovanovitch: [url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/yovanovitch-trump-ukraine-ambassador.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/yovanovitch-trump-ukraine-ambassador.html[/url]

Who is Robert Hyde: [url=https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/here-is-the-republican-operative-that-is-the-new-poster-boy-for-why-trump-was-impeached/]https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/here-is-the-republican-operative-that-is-the-new-poster-boy-for-why-trump-was-impeached/[/url]

Hyde tweet:

Natasha Bertrand@NatashaBertrand
Hyde sent this tweet as Yovanovitch was testifying.

HYDE for U.S. Congress@rfhyde1

We elected President Trump to drain the swamp of traitors like this. Maria is a yuge pos. She has so much dirt on the Clinton’s and Bidens. Such a scumbag. #draintheswamp #mariaisatraitor #trump2020 #hyde2020 [url=https://t.co/nDMHLtQrFa]https://t.co/nDMHLtQrFa[/url]

January 15th 2020

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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2020, 06:08:06 PM »
So we get to find out now if the President can do all this crazy, obviously politically motivated skullduggery and the Senate will give him a pass.

It's actually beginning to look more like Watergate all the time. All the Presidents Men.

They did the right thing by keeping the charges narrow. The case has already been proven in the hearings. There's not a shadow of a doubt.

We've had a lot of judicial malfeasance in this country for a while now, but this will be where we will really see if anything goes.......... and if nothing really does matter.

My guess, he walks.

They're all spineless political hacks without a thread of ethics or a moment's consideration for what's good for the country.

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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2020, 06:12:58 PM »
My guess, he walks.

I agree with that assessment in the Show Trial in the Senate.

I am not so sure about the Court of Public Opinion in the 2020 Election.

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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2020, 06:33:35 PM »
So if he loses we get Warren or Biden.

Biden is Hillary in old-white-guy drag. Neo-con, man of the Deep State. Corrupt? I think so. Not like Trump.....not blatant and gauche about his corruption......he's much more normal and moderately bipartisan old school corrupt.

Warren is a well meaning individual who isn't likely to be particularly effective. Another Obama. We had the first black President.....instant Nobel Prize. Maybe they'll give her one for being the first woman President.

Or Booty-Judge can win and he'll get it for being the first Gay (but still moderately conservative and religious) President.

All the other candidates are some kind of diversity candidate.....except none of them have gotten the least bit of traction.

Imagine, reparations aren't really that great a plank for the Democratic Part after all.  Who coulda known?

And the DNC is falling all over itself apologizing for what's happened......how did all those great "persons of color" candidates  fail to make the cut...It's so not fair.
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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2020, 06:38:52 PM »
So if he loses we get Warren or Biden.

Biden is Hillary in old-white-guy drag. Neo-con, man of the Deep State. Corrupt? I think so. Not like Trump.....not blatant and gauche about his corruption......he's much more normal and moderately bipartisan old school corrupt.

Warren is a well meaning individual who isn't likely to be particularly effective. Another Obama. We had the first black President.....instant Nobel Prize. Maybe they'll give her one for being the first woman President.

Or Booty-Judge can win and he'll get it for being the first Gay (but still moderately conservative and religious) President.

All the other candidates are some kind of diversity candidate.....except none of them have gotten the least bit of traction.

Imagine, reparations aren't really that great a plank for the Democratic Part after all.  Who coulda known?

And the DNC is falling all over itself apologizing for what's happened......how did all those great "persons of color" candidates  fail to make the cut...It's so not fair.

What about Bernie?  You don't think he has a shot along with Liz?

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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2020, 06:51:45 PM »
No, I don't think he has much of a chance. I lean toward picking Warren, out of the new who haven't bailed. Biden, the slime ball, has a shot.

Bernie would probably be poisoned with his own heart medication if he won anyway. He'd probably be the most effective leader....he's even semi-honest, although he does kiss the asses of those who try to break him down for being old and white.



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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2020, 02:08:34 AM »
My guess, he walks.

I agree with that assessment in the Show Trial in the Senate.

I am not so sure about the Court of Public Opinion in the 2020 Election.

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After the Parnas revelations yesterday, there will be more, rather than less, information popping up unbidden by #TeamTreason. Nancy Pelosi sitting on the articles of impeachment for a couple of weeks was a great idea from that standpoint. the calendar is on her side.
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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2020, 02:21:45 AM »
My guess, he walks.

I agree with that assessment in the Show Trial in the Senate.

I am not so sure about the Court of Public Opinion in the 2020 Election.

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After the Parnas revelations yesterday, there will be more, rather than less, information popping up unbidden by #TeamTreason. Nancy Pelosi sitting on the articles of impeachment for a couple of weeks was a great idea from that standpoint. the calendar is on her side.

The next Demodope Debate should be quite entertaining!  :icon_mrgreen:

Then on to Iowa & New Hampshire!  This is going to be a GREAT year for Diner Political Collapse Commentary!  :icon_sunny:

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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2020, 02:28:22 AM »
So we get to find out now if the President can do all this crazy, obviously politically motivated skullduggery and the Senate will give him a pass.

It's actually beginning to look more like Watergate all the time. All the Presidents Men.

They did the right thing by keeping the charges narrow. The case has already been proven in the hearings. There's not a shadow of a doubt.

We've had a lot of judicial malfeasance in this country for a while now, but this will be where we will really see if anything goes.......... and if nothing really does matter.

My guess, he walks.

They're all spineless political hacks without a thread of ethics or a moment's consideration for what's good for the country.

McConnell's strategy will be to engage in whatever procedural chicanery (and arm twisting) he needs to get the charges papered over and dismissed, which Fat Orange will wave aloft like a medieval virgin's bloodied bedsheets proving her innocence.

Nothing prevents the House from bringing additional charges. So the strategy works if Trump did not commit additional crimes. What are the chances?
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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2020, 03:56:40 AM »
My guess, he walks.

I agree with that assessment in the Show Trial in the Senate.

I am not so sure about the Court of Public Opinion in the 2020 Election.

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After the Parnas revelations yesterday, there will be more, rather than less, information popping up unbidden by #TeamTreason. Nancy Pelosi sitting on the articles of impeachment for a couple of weeks was a great idea from that standpoint. the calendar is on her side.

The next Demodope Debate should be quite entertaining!  :icon_mrgreen:

Then on to Iowa & New Hampshire!  This is going to be a GREAT year for Diner Political Collapse Commentary!  :icon_sunny:

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Lev Parnas Roped in Everybody, But the Funniest Is Devin Nunes
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2020, 10:17:48 AM »
Rudy Giuliani's Ukraine Henchman Lev Parnas Roped in Everybody, But the Funniest Is Devin Nunes
The ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee is face planting all over the place.




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Let's get one thing out of the way: Lev Parnas might be making himself useful now, but he's got no business wearing that flag pin. It's almost like wearing a small metal figurine on your lapel doesn't actually say anything about your commitment to the American national interest. (cc: 2008.) These Trumpworld creatures who head for the ratlines are basically all the same: guys who would do anything for The Boss until they get caught, at which point they are Just Trying to Do the Right Thing and, perhaps, stay alive. You don't simply give two weeks notice when you're operating in the underworld.

Still, Parnas seemed fairly forthright in his interview Wednesday night with Rachel Maddow, and he made some logical points. Why, indeed, would the President of Ukraine's inner circle meet with him unless he represented the American president? But there's no reason to take Parnas's word alone on anything. Luckily, for some of it, you don't need to just take his word: he supplied a ton of texts that show a deep and extensive relationship with Rudy Giuliani, Trump's point man on the Ukrainian ratfucking.

Other texts appear to point to a surveillance and intimidation campaign—to accompany the smear campaign—against former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, who was an obstacle to the Trumpist ratfucking over there. Parnas threw cold water on the notion the erratic Trump ally texting him, Robert Hyde, was doing all he said he was with respect to Yovanovitch. Still, the Ukrainian government has announced it's opening an investigation. Meanwhile, Hyde is running for the United States Congress.

The real headline, however, was Parnas's claim that President Trump "knew exactly what was going on." Again, you can't just take his word for it, though he did offer an explanation—that Rudy Giuliani, frequent butt-dialer, would in Parnas's presence jump on the horn with Trump on speakerphone to tell him about the plot, or that Trump would yell-talk so loud Parnas could hear him—that dovetails with what we knew previously. Parnas also unequivocally sought to rope in Vice President Mike Pence, suggesting he canceled his Ukraine trip as part of the quid pro quo. And then he really roped in Trump's pet toad, Attorney General William Barr: "Mr. Barr absolutely knew everything," Parnas said, before offering a caveat. “I mean, It’s impossible [that he didn’t]." But then he doubled down: "Attorney General Barr was basically on the team." Everyone knew about the Ukraine operation, and everyone—including the Ukrainians—knew it was about ratfucking Biden.

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Parnas and Giuliani attended the funeral of George H.W. Bush together in 2018.

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If you're keeping score at home, this henchman just roped in the President of the United States, the vice president, the attorney general, and of course, the president's personal lawyer. Seems bad! Or maybe, as Trump and his allies will soon suggest, he's just lying to avoid a lengthy prison sentence. It's unclear how lying publicly at length will do that, but maybe so! Those same folks will also say they don't know Parnas—he's a coffee boy! In fact, it's already begun with the president and with Kellyanne Conway. So here's a photo of Parnas with her. Here's one with Trump, Pence, and Giuliani. Here's one with Trump Junior and a major Republican fundraiser.

And then there's Devin Nunes. The California congressman kicked off the Trump Era by sneaking onto the White House grounds—after switching Ubers! spy shit!—to receive intel from an administration official geared towards propping up the president's spurious claim he was "spied" on during the campaign. Nunes, then the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, was theoretically supposed to provide oversight of the administration—not run interference for them. By the time the Ukraine fiasco hit, the House Republicans were in the minority, so Nunes was the ranking member of the committee. Still, it would have been nice for him to mention, while he sat next to Adam Schiff overseeing the hearings, that he had been in contact with a core operator in the scheme. No wonder Nunes spent the entire time reading off batshit conspiracy theories to create clips packaged for Facebook and Fox News.

Anyway, all this led to a hilarious public face plant from Nunes, who always looks like a cow stuck in the headlights anyway.

He didn't recognize the name! Could have been any Lev, any Parnas. His office gets a lot of phone calls! Suddenly he remembers talking to the guy he said he didn't talk to.

Contrast this rambling asshole with what Parnas had to say about him.

If Nunes had any shame, he would resign—but of course, he's only there because he doesn't. I think often about something historian Douglas Brinkley said to me for a piece on Trump's Great American Heist: "It's by nature almost impossible for Trump to build an administration of quality," he said. "It's not about good governance or ethics or even dead-rock patriotism. It's about full-bore allegiance to him, to Trump."

As this era has worn on, the president's allies in his administration and in Congress have steadily declined in quality, as anyone with even a modicum of competence or shame has jumped ship. He lost the Adults in the Room in his Cabinet, not that they were doing much good anyway. Ex-Speaker Paul Ryan, an anti-government extremist with at least a modicum of primal cleverness, has quit and been replaced with the comically incompetent Kevin McCarthy. (The House Republican leader also has a photo with Parnas.) The intelligence has steadily leaked out of the Republican side of government, and all that's left is Devin Nunes. Rudy Giuliani—a man who appears in similar cognitive decline to the president's—is running Stupid Black-Ops in the post-Soviet world. The only intelligent ally Trump has left is the megalomaniacal Mitch McConnell, who is ruthlessly effective in part because of his incredible shamelessness.

Time will tell if the latest Trumpian turncoat will make a lick of difference. History says no. Maybe the sheer stupidity and public shamelessness of all the corruption will anesthetize the American public once again—although support for removing the president from office was at 52 percent before his Ukraine henchman formally roped him into the plot on national TV. Again, maybe Parnas is lying, but it's unlikely federal investigators will give him a sweetheart plea deal for spouting off false information about the president. Maybe, just maybe, Donald Trump has all these sketchballs in his orbit because he is a fucking mobster who operates on the principles of force, leverage, and the steadfast belief that the rules do not apply to him.

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Lordy, There Are Tapes...
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2020, 02:49:18 PM »
Rudy Pal Igor Fruman Taped Trump Trying to Fire Ukraine Ambassador: Lawyer

The tape may contradict Trump’s claim that he does not know the two Giuliani associates who worked to have the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine removed.

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EXCLUSIVE

A recently indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani taped President Donald Trump calling for the firing of Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, according to the lawyer for a second Giuliani associate

Joseph Bondy, a lawyer for Florida businessman Lev Parnas, told The Daily Beast that the recording was made by former partner Igor Fruman. Both men were arrested in October and charged with campaign-finance violations.

ABC News reported Friday morning that it reviewed audio of a dinner attended by Trump, Parnas, Fruman, and others. A voice that appears to be the president’s tells the group that he wanted to “get rid of” Yovanovitch, per ABC, an apparent contradiction to Trump’s claim that he does not know Parnas. 

“Last year, before he was arrested, Mr. Parnas personally heard a recording of his April 30, 2018 dinner with the president and others, made by Mr. Fruman, at which the subject of Ambassador Yovanovitch was discussed,” Bondy said. “We have hoped that, to the extent this recording still existed, it would be released to Congress for use in the impeachment trial.” 

A lawyer for Fruman was not at liberty to discuss the matter. ABC News reviewmatches the description Bondy gave The Daily Beast. Unnamed sources told the network that Fruman made the recording, which The Daily Beast has not reviewed.

Parnas has previously described a dinner at Trump Hotel with supporters of the president in April 2018 that he and Fruman attended. He said that he raised concerns about Yovanovitch to Trump, and that the president then turned to an aide and told him she should be fired. At the time, Yovanovitch was the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. Giuliani, Fruman, and Parnas were trying to have her fired. 

Trump eventually recalled Yovanovitch in May 2019. Months later, he pressured Ukraine’s president to announce investigations of a company linked to the family of former Vice President Joe Biden. At the same time, Trump withheld military aid that Congress had appropriated for Ukraine. And his team refused to arrange a White House visit for Ukraine’s president, even though they had formally invited him. That pressure campaign is the focus of Democrats’ efforts to have Trump removed from the White House. His trial is currently underway in the Senate.

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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2020, 02:56:22 PM »
Sweet Jesus.
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Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2020, 03:22:27 PM »
Sweet Jesus.

At least it's presumed he was talking about firing: "Take her out! Get it done tomorrow!" Like any innocent man would.

I also assume he wasn't talking about dinner and a movie.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 04:00:40 AM by Surly1 »
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