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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2019, 10:13:46 PM »

One other contributing factor are the antibiotics put into livestock feed and the food supply. Plenty of opportunity for those at the top of the food chain to develop antibiotics resistance.

This does not help the problem either of course.  However, when you cook your meat, along with killing bacteria it also deactivates the antibiotics, for the most part.  The bacteria we are talking about here is Staphlococcus Aurelia, which although it also infects animals is mainly passed between Homo Saps when they are in hospital.  If you just ate meat and cooked it well, probably not much problem although the bacteria would continue to evolve to defend against this.  Thing about single cell organisms is their life cycle is short, there are ZILLIONS of them and so they adapt quite rapidly, relatively speaking.

About the only really surprising thing here is it took as long a it did for something like MRSA to evolve.  On the "who cooda node?" issue, like Peak Oil we have known about evolution and adaptation for quite some time, as long as antibitotics have been around.  But doctors and pharmaceutical companies ignored this problem, because like all Capitalist Pigs, they are just in it to make MONEY.  Sell more pills, make more money.

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Re: Medical Error: The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2019, 05:05:06 AM »

About the only really surprising thing here is it took as long a it did for something like MRSA to evolve.  On the "who cooda node?" issue, like Peak Oil we have known about evolution and adaptation for quite some time, as long as antibitotics have been around.  But doctors and pharmaceutical companies ignored this problem, because like all Capitalist Pigs, they are just in it to make MONEY.  Sell more pills, make more money.

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After you have had some unpleasant experiences with them you begin to realize they have a list of treatments sorted by cost in descending order. Nothing on the bottom of the list is ever recommended.

They love ordering expensive tests and recurring prescriptions. They want to keep you alive but somewhat sick only so they can make more money with you.

I think it may be time to re-read Arrowsmith since all I remember is all the chatter about how much doctors can make and that the protagonist opens a medical practice on Liberty St. in lower Manhattan. How appropriate! Across the street from the former world trade center.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2019, 10:26:09 AM »

About the only really surprising thing here is it took as long a it did for something like MRSA to evolve.  On the "who cooda node?" issue, like Peak Oil we have known about evolution and adaptation for quite some time, as long as antibitotics have been around.  But doctors and pharmaceutical companies ignored this problem, because like all Capitalist Pigs, they are just in it to make MONEY.  Sell more pills, make more money.

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After you have had some unpleasant experiences with them you begin to realize they have a list of treatments sorted by cost in descending order. Nothing on the bottom of the list is ever recommended.

They love ordering expensive tests and recurring prescriptions. They want to keep you alive but somewhat sick only so they can make more money with you.

I think it may be time to re-read Arrowsmith since all I remember is all the chatter about how much doctors can make and that the protagonist opens a medical practice on Liberty St. in lower Manhattan. How appropriate! Across the street from the former world trade center.

Every person I knew at Columbia who went on to Med Skule was a money grubbing scumbag.  There may be some ethical doctors out there working for Doctors Without Borders or something, but I never met one.  From my experience, they are all criminals.

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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2019, 02:39:55 PM »
Every person I knew at Columbia who went on to Med Skule was a money grubbing scumbag.  There may be some ethical doctors out there working for Doctors Without Borders or something, but I never met one.  From my experience, they are all criminals.

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I have unfortunately had more than my share of interactions with them in their offices, socially and in the workplace. Don't ever let them know you have more money than they (not a problem for me) or that you have a higher iq. This puts them in  a very uncomfortable position, and can lead to big problems.

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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2019, 03:42:17 PM »
Every person I knew at Columbia who went on to Med Skule was a money grubbing scumbag.  There may be some ethical doctors out there working for Doctors Without Borders or something, but I never met one.  From my experience, they are all criminals.

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I have unfortunately had more than my share of interactions with them in their offices, socially and in the workplace. Don't ever let them know you have more money than they (not a problem for me) or that you have a higher iq. This puts them in  a very uncomfortable position, and can lead to big problems.

Well, I USED to be polite to them, but now unless they are going to operate on me I am not so nice. lol.  I generally tell off every Doctor, PA or NP I see for diagnostic purpose to get a CAT scan or MRI etc.  I have an appointment Thursday with my "PCP", Primary Care Physician, who I can about guarantee is not a Doctor but rather an NP or PA.  These folkss are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS! They do nothing except take your BP and Temperature, then they refer you to somebody else who is a "Specialist".  It's fucking stupid and a big waste of taxpayer money.  For this, these dimwits get paid around $80-90K up here.  ::)

I am nice to anyone who is going to do surgery on me though.  :icon_sunny:  lol.

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2019, 04:37:28 PM »
These folkss are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS! They do nothing except take your BP and Temperature, then they refer you to somebody else who is a "Specialist".  It's fucking stupid and a big waste of taxpayer money.  For this, these dimwits get paid around $80-90K up here.  ::)
I've moved on from the crack head pcp after an insurance agent told me he's a drug addict, like duh. Since my daughter is currently suing her psychiatrist, I may just use this as motivation to sue this idiot and the others who nearly did me in.
I like my new pcp somewhat since she went out of her way to touch my balls one time. Her NP can't work the mechanical scale, though.
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2019, 05:08:05 PM »
These folkss are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS! They do nothing except take your BP and Temperature, then they refer you to somebody else who is a "Specialist".  It's fucking stupid and a big waste of taxpayer money.  For this, these dimwits get paid around $80-90K up here.  ::)
I've moved on from the crack head pcp after an insurance agent told me he's a drug addict, like duh. Since my daughter is currently suing her psychiatrist, I may just use this as motivation to sue this idiot and the others who nearly did me in.
I like my new pcp somewhat since she went out of her way to touch my balls one time. Her NP can't work the mechanical scale, though.

Over 2weeks ago I went in for a CAT scan which my latest PA ordered after seeing me 3 weeks ago.  This to get moving on having a graft done on my femoral arteries.  His word's to me were "Nobody should have to live with this.  We need to get moving on it!"

3 weeks later, he still hasn't evven made the referral to aNEW vascular surgeon.  My old one moved down to the Lower 48.

Tell me this is not malpractice.  ::)

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Re: Medical Error: The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2019, 05:11:09 PM »
These folkss are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS! They do nothing except take your BP and Temperature, then they refer you to somebody else who is a "Specialist".  It's fucking stupid and a big waste of taxpayer money.  For this, these dimwits get paid around $80-90K up here.  ::)
I've moved on from the crack head pcp after an insurance agent told me he's a drug addict, like duh. Since my daughter is currently suing her psychiatrist, I may just use this as motivation to sue this idiot and the others who nearly did me in.
I like my new pcp somewhat since she went out of her way to touch my balls one time. Her NP can't work the mechanical scale, though.

Over 2weeks ago I went in for a CAT scan which my latest PA ordered after seeing me 3 weeks ago.  This to get moving on having a graft done on my femoral arteries.  His word's to me were "Nobody should have to live with this.  We need to get moving on it!"

3 weeks later, he still hasn't evven made the referral to aNEW vascular surgeon.  My old one moved down to the Lower 48.

Tell me this is not malpractice.  ::)

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Re: Medical Error: The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2019, 05:34:57 PM »

Over 2weeks ago I went in for a CAT scan which my latest PA ordered after seeing me 3 weeks ago.  This to get moving on having a graft done on my femoral arteries.  His word's to me were "Nobody should have to live with this.  We need to get moving on it!"

3 weeks later, he still hasn't evven made the referral to aNEW vascular surgeon.  My old one moved down to the Lower 48.

Tell me this is not malpractice.  ::)

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All kidding aside, I hope you get help with your health problems.

My problem was with psychiatrists and their meds. All I can say is I'm lucky to be alive.

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Re: Medical Error: The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2019, 06:07:55 PM »

Over 2weeks ago I went in for a CAT scan which my latest PA ordered after seeing me 3 weeks ago.  This to get moving on having a graft done on my femoral arteries.  His word's to me were "Nobody should have to live with this.  We need to get moving on it!"

3 weeks later, he still hasn't evven made the referral to aNEW vascular surgeon.  My old one moved down to the Lower 48.

Tell me this is not malpractice.  ::)

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All kidding aside, I hope you get help with your health problems.

My problem was with psychiatrists and their meds. All I can say is I'm lucky to be alive.

Thanks.  Perhaps eventually, if I am persistent enough and don't die first.

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