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Re: 💸 Why Did All this Money-Printing Not Trigger Massive Inflation?
« Reply #630 on: October 11, 2018, 06:29:42 AM »
If they can cover their nut, working stiffs will spend the rest, at least here in the US. Savings is not that ingrained in our culture. I think there has to be a surplus for price inflation to take off. If food and rent and gas are manageable, then there is surplus cash that chases non-essentials and status-reinforcing higher end goods.

In the recent past, all the surplus flows to the rich, who don't spend any more than usual when their "pay" goes up. The hoard money or buy assets.

I think you have this right, or at least, I agree with you, to the extent that I understand it.

Your point about savings is true for the last two generations. I remember the people of my parent's generation who had lived through the Great Depression. and were frugal to the extreme. Saved everything from coffee cans to string. "You never know when you're going to need this."

I also remember the Carter years of hyperinflation and 13 per cent mortgages, when it made good sense to get into debt because you'd pay it back with cheaper dollars. That's the "reality" that greeted my young adulthood. (Now I wonder of that too wasn't a bankster manipulation.)

In terms of the opportunity get poorer, see Barbara Ehrenreich, "Nickled and Dimed." Payday loans are just a part of a serve landscape designed to extract FRNs from the poorest in our culture. Being poor is hard, and as we've discussed here in other threads, TPTB wrks overtime to make damned sure you can't live independent of the grid. And as you see in the article RE posted about homelessness, as soon as an employer learns you're homeless, you lose your job. We've covered all the exits.

As for Yuan/SDRs and gold, I can't even spell those. I will leave that to you and GO, and much enjoy the discussion.
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Re: Hyperinflation or Deflation?
« Reply #631 on: October 11, 2018, 06:31:51 AM »
The REAL advantage of US dollar hegemony is that dollar inflation means that foreigners pay off our national debt through inflation.

Because austerity is not politically popular, the government/bankster collusion to cause inflation is the primary way we deal with deficits over the long haul. We (the banksters) devalue the dollar to pay off the national debt with cheaper dollars. This is at the heart of the unholy alliance between the US federal government and the banking cabal.

With the foreigners not needing to get dollars to pay their debts, that means dollar inflation effects will be felt primarily here, and not world wide.
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Re: Hyperinflation or Deflation?
« Reply #632 on: October 11, 2018, 06:42:08 AM »
GO is correct that the balance of world financial power has undergone a shift from West to East.

This will have major effects over time. Figuring out how this will affect regular people here in America is something I'd like to know about before it gets to be widely understood. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.

RE has a good mind for this stuff. I wish he were more interested in parsing it out. I understand that it doesn't make much difference to him personally. I've read two of Rickard's books. The new one comes out at the end of the month. He seems to have gotten much of the puzzle figured out.

However, he is a China bear, like RE. China is due for a major deflationary event. How this affects their currency machinations is not something I have figured out yet.
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Re: Hyperinflation or Deflation?
« Reply #633 on: October 11, 2018, 07:55:42 AM »
RE has a good mind for this stuff. I wish he were more interested in parsing it out. I understand that it doesn't make much difference to him personally. I've read two of Rickard's books. The new one comes out at the end of the month. He seems to have gotten much of the puzzle figured out.

However, he is a China bear, like RE. China is due for a major deflationary event. How this affects their currency machinations is not something I have figured out yet.
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Re: Hyperinflation or Deflation?
« Reply #634 on: October 11, 2018, 08:18:39 AM »
GO is correct that the balance of world financial power has undergone a shift from West to East.

This will have major effects over time. Figuring out how this will affect regular people here in America is something I'd like to know about before it gets to be widely understood. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.


I'd like to see you or. GO try to unwind that. You both have some real beans at stake, compared to us peasants. Nevertheless, I'd like to avoid having the 401K that became a 201K in 2008 become a K.
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