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Klobuchar? Really?
« on: May 22, 2020, 01:43:13 PM »
Biden has asked Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as a possible VP running mate. I am underwhelmed. Since Klobuchar was already (a) Senior Senator from Minnesota, and (b) just dropped out as a POTUS candidate....the vetting process seems hardly necessary.....

I reckon it's a trial balloon to see how loud the black voters will scream Nooooooooooo!!!!!! Extremely loud, I'd bet.

I don't think Klobuchar is politically a good choice at all. She's a very conservative Dem at a time when the base is shifting left.....she won't take many votes away from Trump.....she is conspicuously not black.......WTF is Ole Joe thinking?


Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as possible running mate

BY BO ERICKSON, ED O'KEEFE
MAY 22, 2020 / 1:22 PM / CBS NEWS

Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves.

In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now."

Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.


 (Poor choice of words for an accused pussy-grabber, imho)


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-amy-klobuchar-running-mate-vetting/



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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2020, 02:36:08 PM »
Biden has asked Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as a possible VP running mate. I am underwhelmed. Since Klobuchar was already (a) Senior Senator from Minnesota, and (b) just dropped out as a POTUS candidate....the vetting process seems hardly necessary.....

I reckon it's a trial balloon to see how loud the black voters will scream Nooooooooooo!!!!!! Extremely loud, I'd bet.

I don't think Klobuchar is politically a good choice at all. She's a very conservative Dem at a time when the base is shifting left.....she won't take many votes away from Trump.....she is conspicuously not black.......WTF is Ole Joe thinking?


Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as possible running mate

BY BO ERICKSON, ED O'KEEFE
MAY 22, 2020 / 1:22 PM / CBS NEWS

Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves.

In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now."

Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.


 (Poor choice of words for an accused pussy-grabber, imho)


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-amy-klobuchar-running-mate-vetting/

Minnesota is a swing state, of course......but would he pick her just to deliver Minnesota? Holy smokes,
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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 03:20:03 PM »
Biden has asked Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as a possible VP running mate. I am underwhelmed. Since Klobuchar was already (a) Senior Senator from Minnesota, and (b) just dropped out as a POTUS candidate....the vetting process seems hardly necessary.....

I reckon it's a trial balloon to see how loud the black voters will scream Nooooooooooo!!!!!! Extremely loud, I'd bet.

I don't think Klobuchar is politically a good choice at all. She's a very conservative Dem at a time when the base is shifting left.....she won't take many votes away from Trump.....she is conspicuously not black.......WTF is Ole Joe thinking?


Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as possible running mate

BY BO ERICKSON, ED O'KEEFE
MAY 22, 2020 / 1:22 PM / CBS NEWS

Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves.

In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now."

Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.


 (Poor choice of words for an accused pussy-grabber, imho)


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-amy-klobuchar-running-mate-vetting/

Minnesota is a swing state, of course......but would he pick her just to deliver Minnesota? Holy smokes,

Uncle Joe polls well with the Black vote on his own.  He's going after the Wimmen.

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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 04:21:56 PM »
Biden has asked Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as a possible VP running mate. I am underwhelmed. Since Klobuchar was already (a) Senior Senator from Minnesota, and (b) just dropped out as a POTUS candidate....the vetting process seems hardly necessary.....

I reckon it's a trial balloon to see how loud the black voters will scream Nooooooooooo!!!!!! Extremely loud, I'd bet.

I don't think Klobuchar is politically a good choice at all. She's a very conservative Dem at a time when the base is shifting left.....she won't take many votes away from Trump.....she is conspicuously not black.......WTF is Ole Joe thinking?


Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as possible running mate

BY BO ERICKSON, ED O'KEEFE
MAY 22, 2020 / 1:22 PM / CBS NEWS

Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves.

In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now."

Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.


 (Poor choice of words for an accused pussy-grabber, imho)


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-amy-klobuchar-running-mate-vetting/

Minnesota is a swing state, of course......but would he pick her just to deliver Minnesota? Holy smokes,

Uncle Joe polls well with the Black vote on his own.  He's going after the Wimmen.

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Klobuchar has the same problem as Harris and Warren. She is a sitting Senator with a vulnerable seat if she doesn't run.....Dumb to sacrifice that.

The VP presides over the Senate and is the tie-breaker vote. He should nominate someone wh is NOT in the Senate at this time....when the Dems are close to getting it back.

I don't think the blacks will vote for Ole Joe nearly as well if he doesn't pick a black woman, btw. They will show up much better to vote for a black candidate than for Joe, who mainly gets traction because of Obama. Plus he is so unexciting  that he needs somebody who can put a little oxygen back in the blood of the party.

Like I said......Bernie would have been a great choice.....but the money doesn't want a socialist anywhere near the Whitehouse. All the black women on the short list have something problematic......but  I like Susan Rice. Notice that the Republicans have been trying to slander her as of late......doubt it's an accident.
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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2020, 04:37:04 PM »
Biden has asked Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as a possible VP running mate. I am underwhelmed. Since Klobuchar was already (a) Senior Senator from Minnesota, and (b) just dropped out as a POTUS candidate....the vetting process seems hardly necessary.....

I reckon it's a trial balloon to see how loud the black voters will scream Nooooooooooo!!!!!! Extremely loud, I'd bet.

I don't think Klobuchar is politically a good choice at all. She's a very conservative Dem at a time when the base is shifting left.....she won't take many votes away from Trump.....she is conspicuously not black.......WTF is Ole Joe thinking?


Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo vetting as possible running mate

BY BO ERICKSON, ED O'KEEFE
MAY 22, 2020 / 1:22 PM / CBS NEWS

Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves.

In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now."

Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.


 (Poor choice of words for an accused pussy-grabber, imho)


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-amy-klobuchar-running-mate-vetting/

Minnesota is a swing state, of course......but would he pick her just to deliver Minnesota? Holy smokes,

Uncle Joe polls well with the Black vote on his own.  He's going after the Wimmen.

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Klobuchar has the same problem as Harris and Warren. She is a sitting Senator with a vulnerable seat if she doesn't run.....Dumb to sacrifice that.

The VP presides over the Senate and is the tie-breaker vote. He should nominate someone wh is NOT in the Senate at this time....when the Dems are close to getting it back.

I don't think the blacks will vote for Ole Joe nearly as well if he doesn't pick a black woman, btw. They will show up much better to vote for a black candidate than for Joe, who mainly gets traction because of Obama. Plus he is so unexciting  that he needs somebody who can put a little oxygen back in the blood of the party.

Like I said......Bernie would have been a great choice.....but the money doesn't want a socialist anywhere near the Whitehouse. All the black women on the short list have something problematic......but  I like Susan Rice. Notice that the Republicans have been trying to slander her as of late......doubt it's an accident.

How about Corey Booker?  NJ won't vote Repugnant no matter who runss for Senate.

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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2020, 04:44:35 PM »
Biden already went out on a limb and promised to pick a female. He can't back down on that. It was dumb to even say that...unnecessarily painting himself into a corner. Booker would be a decent choice to motivate blacks, although he is eaten up with the reparations bullshit and Trump would eat him alive on that....and his cannabis friendliness might hurt him in some places.
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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2020, 01:09:10 PM »
I knew the response would be fast and furious....it hasn't even been 24 hours.....look for a lot more blowback...more every day until Biden walks it back.....which he should if he wants to have a chance to beat Trump.

Black activists warn Biden: Don't pick Klobuchar as VP

The Minnesota senator and former prosecutor has problems with communities of colors that another top white contender, Elizabeth Warren, does not.

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Sen. Amy Klobuchar has regularly appeared as a surrogate and a fundraiser for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. | Eric Gay/AP Photo

By ELENA SCHNEIDER
05/23/2020 02:56 PM EDT

Amy Klobuchar performed abysmally among black voters in the Democratic primary. It’s haunting her now as Joe Biden decides on a running mate.

The Minnesota Democrat has the governing experience and ideological profile to mesh well with Biden, and she’s regularly appeared as a surrogate and a fundraiser for him, raking in more than $1.5 million for a single event she headlined. The pair have a warm relationship, trading phone calls when her husband was hospitalized with Covid-19 and they didn’t tangle publicly during primary.



But more than a dozen black and Latino strategists and activists warned in interviews that selecting Klobuchar would not help Biden excite black voters — and might have the opposite effect. Klobuchar would “risk losing the very base the Democrats need to win,” said Aimee Allison, founder of She the People, which promotes women of color in politics. They pointed to her poor performance among non-white voters during the presidential primary, as well as her record as a prosecutor in Minnesota.

It’s not yet clear how much the opposition of activists matters to Biden. He's made clear that the electoral politics of his pick matter less than choosing someone who can be a governing partner and step into the top job without worry.

But the vocal contingent of African American and Latino detractors — many of whom said they would prefer Biden to select a black woman as a running mate — is unique to Klobuchar; Elizabeth Warren, another top contender for VP, doesn’t elicit similar antagonism from communities of color.

"It comes from her performance in the primary — her weakness in being able to motivate them," said Adrianne Shropshire, executive director of BlackPAC, who supports several potential vice presidential selections. “The engagement and the enthusiasm of black voters is going to be a difference-maker in this election, and the concerns about her in this role stem from the degree to which she resonated or not with those core constituencies.”

Earlier this week, Biden confirmed that "multiple black women [are] being considered" for vice president. Those often named include Sen. Kamala Harris, former Georgia gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams and Florida Rep. Val Demings. Other Midwestern options, like Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, have also been mentioned.


But for many of these operatives, Klobuchar symbolizes a strategic division within the Democratic Party: Whether to focus on winning back white, Midwestern voters who flipped to Donald Trump in 2016, or on activating voters of color who were not excited to vote. She “represents that tension,” said Rev. Al Sharpton, who said he’s told Biden that he would prefer a black woman on the ticket but noted he’s “not anti-Amy.”



“It is not her fault, but she is in the middle of an ongoing battle from the last few presidential races,” Sharpton continued, adding he would be “concerned” that selecting Klobuchar would not help energize black and brown voters.

In a Washington Post op-ed this month urging Biden to select a woman of color as VP, seven black strategists and activists called out Klobuchar, warning she would “only alienate black voters.”

"Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, does not need help winning white, working-class voters — he serves that function himself," they wrote. Referring to her record as a chief prosecutor in Minneapolis, they added, "A choice such as Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.), who failed to prosecute controversial police killings and is responsible for the imprisonment of Myon Burrell, will only alienate black voters."

“If it was important enough to raise in an op-ed, it speaks to how serious we are,” LaTosha Brown, a co-founder of Black Voters Matter and the lead op-ed author, said in an interview. “Her campaign appeal was about bringing in working class, white people from the Midwest, and perhaps that’s true, but that’s a particular strategy that doesn’t align with what it’s going to take to win. You need to excite the base.”

Angela Rye, a Democratic strategist and the former executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus, who also signed the op-ed, called Klobuchar a “non-starter.”

Klobuchar's boosters counter that Donald Trump will drive out the Democratic base no matter what, and that the key Rust Belt states that Democrats have to win play to Klobuchar's strengths.

"I think she could help put the upper Midwest in play, and that's an invaluable asset," said Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, who backed Bernie Sanders during the presidential primary. He also noted that "there are a lot of black people" in the Midwest, in cities like Detroit and Milwaukee, who will also be key for Democrats in winning back those states.

"I think the base is going to be excited enough because, before, Trump was an idea, now Trump is the reality," Ellison continued.


Klobuchar has been working to improve her relationships with minority activists and politicians since she dropped out of the presidential race. She endorsed a slate of racially and regionally diverse candidates in down-ballot races. She’s worked with Stacey Abrams, another VP contender, to promote a vote-by-mail bill, which was endorsed by Voto Latino and Rev. Jesse Jackson earlier this month. She also wrote a bill to expand broadband access to studddents at historically-black colleges and Hispanic-serving institutions. And she participating in a virtual town hall hosted by the NAACP on how the coronavirus is disproportionately hurting black and brown people.


During the presidential primary, Leah Daughtry, CEO of the DNC’s conventions in 2008 and 2016, hosted Klobuchar with a group of influential black women leaders, “half she knew, half she didn’t,” and “people walked away with a favorable impression.”

But, Daughtry noted, “building relationships in every area of our lives takes time, including in politics,” and “it isn’t something you can do in a matter of weeks.”

The primary results illustrate the Klobuchar's failure among voters of color.

In South Carolina, she won 1 percent of black voters, even though they make up a majority of Democratic primary voters in the state. It was the lowest total for any of the presidential candidates on the ballot.

In Nevada, Klobuchar received 4 percent support of the Latino vote, the lowest share of any presidential candidate other than Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. Nationally, Klobuchar regularly polled in the low single digits among voters of color.

“Could she have done more? Absolutely,” said Antjuan Seawright, a South Carolina-based Democratic consultant. “But she knew where her bread was buttered, and that started in Iowa. She was taking the race as it comes.”

Seawright noted that Biden’s own strength in the black community — as evidenced by his resounding victory in South Carolina, which revived his flailing campaign — “gives room for the potential for Amy Klobuchar” as vice president.


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But Biden, too, was recently warned about not taking African American voters for granted. On Friday, he apologized on a conference call with black leaders for comments he made to "The Breakfast Club" radio host: "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."


Klobuchar’s prosecutorial record as Hennepin County attorney is another sore spot, particularly her handling of a case involving Burrell, a black teenager. An investigation by the Associated Press found numerous flaws in the case, and civil rights leaders in Minnesota called for her to suspend her presidential campaign.

Klobuchar called for an independent investigation after her campaign ended, a move applauded by the Minnesota NAACP.

If Biden picked Klobuchar as his vice president, “it would add to [his] workload” for the general election, said Daughtry, who signed on to another letter sent to Biden, urging the selection of a black woman.

“There are enough people who either A, don’t know her, or B, have a negative view of her that it becomes another thing the campaign has to do — introduce her and convince communities of color that she’s ok,” Daughtry said. “That’s not impossible, but there’s already a lot of work to do in a presidential race.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/23/black-activists-joe-biden-amy-klobuchar-vice-president-275326

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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2020, 04:28:26 PM »
I knew the response would be fast and furious....it hasn't even been 24 hours.....look for a lot more blowback...more every day until Biden walks it back.....which he should if he wants to have a chance to beat Trump.

Black activists warn Biden: Don't pick Klobuchar as VP

The Minnesota senator and former prosecutor has problems with communities of colors that another top white contender, Elizabeth Warren, does not.

You might as well call Klobuchar "Karen." If Black voters are the lynchpin of Dem voter turnout, a Klobuchar nomination would be as fatal a blow as another interview with Charlemagne tha God.
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Re: Klobuchar? Really?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2020, 04:38:43 PM »
I knew the response would be fast and furious....it hasn't even been 24 hours.....look for a lot more blowback...more every day until Biden walks it back.....which he should if he wants to have a chance to beat Trump.

Black activists warn Biden: Don't pick Klobuchar as VP

The Minnesota senator and former prosecutor has problems with communities of colors that another top white contender, Elizabeth Warren, does not.

You might as well call Klobuchar "Karen." If Black voters are the lynchpin of Dem voter turnout, a Klobuchar nomination would be as fatal a blow as another interview with Charlemagne tha God.

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