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The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing (Again)
« on: May 23, 2020, 11:19:02 AM »
Biden got in trouble with another terrible gaffe yesterday that shows how really tone-deaf he is with regards to the sensitivities of the fine black voters he pretends to be a good friend  towards.....saying in an interview that blacks who wouldn't vote for him "ain't black".

He was just shooting from the hip and being a smart-ass.....but the political incorrectness of his statement sent shock waves through the Woke community....and now the young black intelligentsia is trying to tear him a new ass....suddenly turning on him and reminding everyone that he has a record from way back on being "tough on crime" and sponsoring the kind of legislation 20-30 years ago that eventually led to a whole lot of black guys living in jails.

As I pointed out when Hillary was going to black churches every.Sunday in the last election cycle....there is huge hypocrisy visible to anyone with a brain......the days of old white guys (and old white women) being able to get by with lip service to civil rights and a few photo ops with black influencers is nearly over.

Hillary liked to claim she was on the front lines of the civil rights movement, when she actually was a Young Republican stumping for Goldwater in '64. So....She was a big liar, basically. (Facts available for checking.)

There is a real risk these days, what with the internet and all, that intelligent young black bloggers and YT'ers will actually make the vast numbers of ignorant (but easily stirred up)  people aware of the real history...as opposed to the fake narrative being hawked by the corporate owned Democratic Party leadership.

This is just the kind of fundamental dishonesty that I show up to criticize here every day.......and get flamed for mentioning,

But Biden risks his Obama/Clyburn  blackness vaccination wearing off if he isn't careful.



Opinion

Joe Biden

Black Americans are in an abusive relationship with the Democratic party
Derecka Purnell    (YFJOC ---- Young Female Journalist Of Color)

An offensive comment by the Democratic presidential candidate is a reminder that black people – all people – deserve better than Joe Biden
Fri 22 May 2020 16.02 EDT Last modified on Sat 23 May 2020 12.08 EDT

I am very tired of Joe Biden. My vote for him was already hanging by a thread before his disastrous interview with Charlamagne tha God on Friday. Interrupting the Breakfast Club host’s explanation that black people needed assurances that our communities will benefit from his presidency, Biden asserted: “If you’ve got a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or for Trump, then you ain’t black.”

Again, I am very tired of Joe Biden. Not because I am a purist, or have inflexible ideological commitments of what it will take to remove Donald Trump from office. But rather because Biden’s condescension towards black communities is intolerable.


I want to believe that Biden’s condescension started after the respected Representative James Clyburn called the former vice-president an “honorary black man” at a private dinner in March. But his mistreatment of black people, verbally and politically, is decades old, and is a reflection of the Democratic party in general.

Throughout Biden’s career, he has boasted about his ability to bridge partisan divides by sacrificing the needs of black people and poor people in the name of “compromise”. For the last 30 years, Biden has repeatedly talked about freezing, cutting, or raising the age for social security and other benefits – as much as $2tn one time. His response to concerns that these cuts would hurt the poor? “We’re going to do lots of hard things … we might as well do this.”


Social security is an important program for black people, especially as we age. Among African Americans receiving social security, 35% of elderly married couples and 58% of unmarried elderly persons relied on it for 90% or more of their income. The reliance is not due to laziness or spending habits – people of color and white people make similar choices and contributions to retirement – but due to racism, lack of workplace retirement plans and barriers to accessing high-paying jobs.

“They know where my heart is,” Biden has said, of black voters.

But do we?

Senator Kamala Harris was severely scrutinized for her treatment of poor black women as a prosecutor – yet Biden’s criminal justice record makes Harris look like Thurgood Marshall. Biden authored and successfully passed the $30bn 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act. Besides putting 100,000 additional police officers in the streets, the crime bill distributed funding for new prison construction, encouraged prosecutors to charge children as adults, and even added the death penalty for 28 new areas, including drug-related offenses. Pushing for further criminalization, then senator Biden argued that George HW Bush’s crime plan did not go far enough because it did not “include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs, not enough prosecutors to convict them, not enough judges to sentence them, and not enough prison cells to put them away for a long time”. An older black generation fought through Jim Crow only for Biden to help make sure that their children and grandchildren lived through a new Jim Crow.



On the House floor, Biden compared his criminal justice approach to Richard Nixon’s law and order stance: “I would say, ‘Lock the SOBs up.’” Black people were arrested in droves following this bill, despite comparable drug use rates to white people; many are still sitting in prison today. Biden has since acknowledged flaws in the bill, but last summer he reiterated his support for the bill. The law spent $30bn but contributed to only a 1.3% decline in violent crime. He has yet to call for it to be repealed.

Today, some cities plan to expunge marijuana records and hope to pay reparations to black people formerly incarcerated for marijuana offenses. But Biden can’t seem to let go; he is inconsistent and ambivalent about marijuana legalization. He has argued it may be a gateway drug, a statement he has since dialed back. Of course, keeping marijuana illegal at the federal level does not mean that people will not use it, but rather that the extra police that he put on the street will send people of color to jail for using it. Ironically, the police were probably nowhere to be found when Biden’s friends George W Bush and Barack Obama used marijuana. If anything, the drug seems to be a gateway to the White House.

Despite attempting to cut social programs and increasing mass incarceration, Biden claims to care about black families. But he doesn’t seem to know many. During the September 2019 Democratic debate he claimed that poor families should put on a record player so their children will know more words. Recently, during an interview with the New York Times editorial board, he argued that poor black parents feel ashamed because they cannot read and skip parent-teacher conferences. He was hoping to encourage them to be better parents. But his assertion is incorrect. Black and white parents have comparable participation rates overall and attend parent-teacher conferences at the exact same rates. In fact, black parents and poor parents are the most likely to check their children’s homework and meet with guidance counselors. Biden instead relied on stereotypes that black people are not involved in their children’s lives.

Harris forced Biden to confront his work with racist elected officials to stop integration efforts using school busing. That was not his only education mistake. Biden played a significant role in creating the student debt crisis, including making student loan discharge “nearly impossible”. This is devastating to black people, who disproportionately carry school debt. While the average school debt for black women with a bachelor’s degree is about $25,000, that level of education does not provide the same level of financial security for black women as it does other groups, including white people with less education (primarily because of sexism and racism).

Again and again, Biden’s relationship with black Americans, like the Democratic National Committee’s relationship, has been patronizing at best and actively harmful at worst.

 Biden’s friendship with one black person does not mean that he’s a friend to black people
Some black people will support Biden because of his association with Barack Obama – even though Obama himself doesn’t seem especially excited about Biden becoming president. The Obama days feel distant yet warm compared to Donald Trump’s current presidency. But remember: Biden cycled millions of black people in and out of jail, voted for massive numbers of poor people to go to war in Iraq, threw Anita Hill under the bus to confirm a conservative justice to the US supreme court, and, under Obama’s administration, helped to deport millions of immigrants and bombed brown countries. When Biden was vice-president, black home ownership and wealth declined significantly, even as it rose for other races. Biden’s friendship with one black person does not mean that he’s a friend to black people.


The Democratic party holds black people in an abusive relationship but says you cannot leave because the other option is more abusive. That’s why I don’t believe that a vote against Biden solely means a vote for Trump. Perhaps it is a vote against being captured by the party that makes empty promises every four years when it is election time, and delivers nothing. Perhaps it is a vote against the crime bill, drones and deportations. Perhaps it is a vote against covert and overt racism.

Biden and others will rightfully argue that Trump is worse, and I agree. But what can Biden actually deliver? Will there be fewer drones if he’s president? Maybe not. Fewer deportations? Maybe not. Less money to police departments? No. Will fewer black people die from police? Unlikely. Will black people have healthcare? Unlikely. Will black wealth increase? Unlikely. Will Palestinian lives be safer? Unlikely. Commitments to preserving our climate? Doubtful. If black people have a hard time figuring out the differences between Trump and Biden, then that is Biden’s problem, not ours.

Joe Biden refuses to reckon with the harm that he has caused to people all over the world. His best line is that he is better than the other guy, and that is exactly how abusive relationships function. Black people – all people – deserve better than Biden and the Democratic party. And yes, we are still black.

Derecka Purnell is a social movement lawyer and writer based in Washington, DC. Guardian US columnist
America faces an epic choice ...

You can fool ALL of the people some the time, and you can fool SOME of the people all of the time......but you can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time.

The modern democratic platform is based on the premise that you can fool MOST of the special people looking for their special rights....blacks, gays, feminists,,hispanics, recent immigrants ....ALL of the time.

Unfortunately some of those people aren't really dumb enough for lip service and photo ops to be ENOUGH...... to control the narrative.







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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2020, 11:29:33 AM »
This is what I mean when I say it's time for a new serious party to emerge.  On the republican side we've got Trump, and on the Democrat side we've got Biden.  Now he's going to lose the black vote which will make it easy for Trump to win again.  Wouldn't that be something?  Who could believe it.  What's that say about our political system?  It's fuckin' broke dick is what.  There's no serious candidate for POTUS that would make a good president?  WTF?  I want to vote, but damn...who's worth voting for?  Anyone that's not Dump or Biden is just a wasted vote. 

What a shit show. 

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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2020, 11:43:19 AM »
.  Now he's going to lose the black vote which will make it easy for Trump to win again.  Wouldn't that be something? 

This is what I mean when I say that the problem with political correctness is that it leads to the liberal party cannibalizing itself..and sabotaging its chances of winning....in most national elections.

We can only hope this time Trump has made such a fine mess of things that he will lose on a cratering economy and the smell of the piles of dead people.
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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing (Again)
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2020, 11:50:05 AM »
Biden is a weak candidate but Trump is worse. I am sure at this point, if given the choice, black people would pick Bush stupid over Trump. Not voting (and low voting counts is what Republicans want) increases the chances of Trump winning. If the Democrats were to take a more grounded approach and actually listen to their electorate rather than sing hollow platitudes I am sure they would be more appealing but at this point the Republicians have set a very low bar. When the standard of competition drops there is a tendency to put less effort on your persoanl endeavours. This is what is happening with the Democratic party. It would occur even if there was no money to muddy the waters.

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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing (Again)
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2020, 12:02:11 PM »
Biden is a weak candidate but Trump is worse. I am sure at this point, if given the choice, black people would pick Bush stupid over Trump. Not voting (and low voting counts is what Republicans want) increases the chances of Trump winning. If the Democrats were to take a more grounded approach and actually listen to their electorate rather than sing hollow platitudes I am sure they would be more appealing but at this point the Republicians have set a very low bar. When the standard of competition drops there is a tendency to put less effort on your persoanl endeavours. This is what is happening with the Democratic party. It would occur even if there was no money to muddy the waters.

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Not voting (and low voting counts is what Republicans want) increases the chances of Trump winning.

Biden is possibly about to make sure that happens too ....by picking the closet Republican Klobuchar as his running mate. I just can't believe this kind of thing keeps happening.

Do you remember Earl Butz?

No of course not, you're too young....but I bet Surly does....   :)

Anyway, Butz was a Secretary of Agriculture under...Nixon? think so....He repeated this crude racist joke that got him fired....the first line of which was "Do you know what the black people want?"

But that's how these white corporate-owned guys like Biden think.....they want to know what black people want so they can pretend to be for it. But they really just want to be in power so they can participate in the final strip-mining of the commons of the planet.
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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing (Again)
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2020, 12:07:26 PM »


But that's how these white corporate-owned guys like Biden think.....they want to know what black people want so they can pretend to be for it. But they really just want to be in power so they can participate in the final strip-mining of the commons of the planet.

Maybe it will work.  It certainly worked for Dump with the Christians in the flyover states.  How anyone can believe that he's a Christian is beyond me.  It's like the chickens voting for the fox to protect them. 

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2020, 12:18:56 PM »


But that's how these white corporate-owned guys like Biden think.....they want to know what black people want so they can pretend to be for it. But they really just want to be in power so they can participate in the final strip-mining of the commons of the planet.

Maybe it will work.  It certainly worked for Dump with the Christians in the flyover states.  How anyone can believe that he's a Christian is beyond me.  It's like the chickens voting for the fox to protect them.

Trump just got a lot of religious people back on board by insisting on opening the churches......and it doesn't matter that it's dangerous....it's what they want,,, and he's standing up for that and giving it to them.....
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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing (Again)
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2020, 12:30:12 PM »
The Covid-19 crisis is not over. The economic ramifications are only beginning and will get considerably worse in the coming months. Then there is the possiblity of a second wave which I feel is likely to happen come fall or winter season just when the election comes. Lots going in the world to swing the election. The American economy could be on its knees by November and bad economies have traditionally been bad for sitting presidents. I think it is too early to rule anything out at this point. You have to be in it to win it.

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Re: The Liberal Narrative Hypocrisy Is Showing (Again)
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2020, 12:40:10 PM »
I must vote for Biden, of course....if he is the candidate.....but like the last election with Clinton, I will have to hold my nose to do it.....

We do need a mult-party system...but I don't see how we get there from here.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2020, 12:52:24 PM »
I must vote for Biden, of course....if he is the candidate.....but like the last election with Clinton, I will have to hold my nose to do it.....

We do need a mult-party system...but I don't see how we get there from here.

We don't get there.  There is too much vested interest, money, and lobbyist already entrenched.  Of course this is mostly why Dump won to begin with.  A lot of people voted for him because he was not a politician.  It was a hail Mary to hopefully shake something loose.  It was stupid, but that's what happened.  Also there are all of those idiots who thought that Jebus was voting for Dump. 

Now what's the excuse?  Dumbing down of the populace?  Nothing better to vote for?  Confirmation bias?  Not wanting to be wrong around the Thanksgiving table?  Having nothing better to vote for? 

I voted for Bernie in the primaries.  GM talked me into voting.  I had to try.  I'll probably vote this election, but I'll probably write somebody in.  It will just be symbolic on my part.  Yet anything that's not a Biden vote will be a Dump vote.  So I might as well vote for Dump.  But I'll burn in hell before I'll do that.  So what's the fucking point? 

Still, I'll vote just so I can sleep at night.  How many people feel just like I do? 

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2020, 04:35:46 PM »
I must vote for Biden, of course....if he is the candidate.....but like the last election with Clinton, I will have to hold my nose to do it.....

We do need a mult-party system...but I don't see how we get there from here.

We don't get there.  There is too much vested interest, money, and lobbyist already entrenched.  Of course this is mostly why Dump won to begin with.  A lot of people voted for him because he was not a politician.  It was a hail Mary to hopefully shake something loose.  It was stupid, but that's what happened.  Also there are all of those idiots who thought that Jebus was voting for Dump. 

Now what's the excuse?  Dumbing down of the populace?  Nothing better to vote for?  Confirmation bias?  Not wanting to be wrong around the Thanksgiving table?  Having nothing better to vote for? 

This is as succinct a political analysis as you will find from any of those Beltway blow-dried haircuts.

I voted for Bernie in the primaries.  GM talked me into voting.  I had to try.  I'll probably vote this election, but I'll probably write somebody in.  It will just be symbolic on my part.  Yet anything that's not a Biden vote will be a Dump vote.  So I might as well vote for Dump.  But I'll burn in hell before I'll do that.  So what's the fucking point? 

If you write in Mickey Mouse or vote for some random, you're just throwing that vote away, which is the same as giving it to Dump. No different from not voting. RE says that all the time, so I push in his suppository: "We'll just put you down for Trump."

I don't like it any more than you or Eddie do.

Removing Trump is the only thing that matters. I wopuld vote for Dread Cthuhlu if he were at the top of the ticket, just to remove Trump.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2020, 04:44:48 PM »

Do you remember Earl Butz?

No of course not, you're too young....but I bet Surly does....   :)

Anyway, Butz was a Secretary of Agriculture under...Nixon? think so....He repeated this crude racist joke that got him fired....the first line of which was "Do you know what the black people want?"

Eddie is correct. He gets a cookie. I will not adduce the answer here, but it is infamous.

But that's how these white corporate-owned guys like Biden think.....they want to know what black people want so they can pretend to be for it. But they really just want to be in power so they can participate in the final strip-mining of the commons of the planet.

The Ds are nt as bad as the Rs in strip mining the commons, but they do favor a different set of criminals. With Biden you get more time.
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2020, 04:48:39 PM »
.  Now he's going to lose the black vote which will make it easy for Trump to win again.  Wouldn't that be something? 

This is what I mean when I say that the problem with political correctness is that it leads to the liberal party cannibalizing itself..and sabotaging its chances of winning....in most national elections.

We can only hope this time Trump has made such a fine mess of things that he will lose on a cratering economy and the smell of the piles of dead people.

Joe, as your political consultant, I recommend that you return to your burrow for another six weeks, then pop out to see if you see your shadow.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2020, 07:30:05 AM »

If you write in Mickey Mouse or vote for some random, you're just throwing that vote away, which is the same as giving it to Dump. No different from not voting. RE says that all the time, so I push in his suppository: "We'll just put you down for Trump."

I don't like it any more than you or Eddie do.

Removing Trump is the only thing that matters. I wopuld vote for Dread Cthuhlu if he were at the top of the ticket, just to remove Trump.

I'm not going to write anyone in.  I realize that's just a vote for Dump.  I was just lamenting how fucked it is. 

Can we just have someone worth voting for that can actually win for once?  Can we at least have someone who speaks intelligibly.  Obama was pretty good where speaking intelligibly was concerned. 

How the fuck did we go from someone like Obama to Dump?  I still can't believe it. 

 

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