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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #300 on: June 28, 2013, 09:24:58 PM »
Try skidding off the Glenn Highway at 60MPH and come out unscathed, without so much as a scratch to the SUV.  That just can't happen under normal parameters.  There is definitely something going on behind the curtain.

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #301 on: June 28, 2013, 09:43:48 PM »
Try skidding off the Glenn Highway at 60MPH and come out unscathed, without so much as a scratch to the SUV.  That just can't happen under normal parameters.  There is definitely something going on behind the curtain.

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When I was 14 I camped at a lake with my father.  I think it was in Arizona.  I caught a 14 pound catfish on my first cast and then neither of us caught anything after that.  My father joked that I must have hit him on the head with a weight and it pissed him off.  We ate him.  That night as I lay on the cot under the stars next to the fire...large red fox nuzzled and sniffed my head wrapped in the mummy sleepin' bag.  I was drunk and remember the sound of him sniffin' my head.  Then I remember pokin' my head out of the bag to see him trot off as a drunken blur lit by the glow of our fire.  There was a similar incident with my fathers father when I was 8.  We were camping in an RV and a bear attacked our camp site in the early morning hours...it was dark.  I remember how afraid my grandpa was...and I was not afraid...I marveled at the sheen of his coat and the strength of his will. 

I've almost died many times. 

I'm still here. 
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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #302 on: June 28, 2013, 10:21:04 PM »
Try skidding off the Glenn Highway at 60MPH and come out unscathed, without so much as a scratch to the SUV.  That just can't happen under normal parameters.  There is definitely something going on behind the curtain.

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When I was 14 I camped at a lake with my father.  I think it was in Arizona.  I caught a 14 pound catfish on my first cast and then neither of us caught anything after that.  My father joked that I must have hit him on the head with a weight and it pissed him off.  We ate him.  That night as I lay on the cot under the stars next to the fire...large red fox nuzzled and sniffed my head wrapped in the mummy sleepin' bag.  I was drunk and remember the sound of him sniffin' my head.  Then I remember pokin' my head out of the bag to see him trot off as a drunken blur lit by the glow of our fire.  There was a similar incident with my fathers father when I was 8.  We were camping in an RV and a bear attacked our camp site in the early morning hours...it was dark.  I remember how afraid my grandpa was...and I was not afraid...I marveled at the sheen of his coat and the strength of his will. 

I've almost died many times. 

I'm still here.

The Near Death experiences have a tendency to wake you up.

By no reasonable math should I still be alive right now to keyboard out this post. I should be DEAD at least 10 times over, each one of them with a Survival Rate less than 1:1000 I am sure.

I SHOULD BE DEAD
. But I am NOT.

Makes you think.

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #303 on: June 29, 2013, 05:26:04 AM »
There is definitely something going on behind the curtain.

Definitely !!

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #304 on: June 29, 2013, 05:33:07 AM »
My initial quandary was this. I am a Christian and if I die in the state of grace, I'll go to Heaven.

But here comes a criminal low life and tries to knife me.  :o

I pull out a gun and point it at the criminal but he keeps coming. I assume, since he is attacking me for no reason, that he is NOT SAVED. That means, if I pull the trigger to save my life, I probably am condemning someone to eternal damnation.

So, am I supposed to let this human kill me so he will get a further chance to be saved while I go to heaven?

Tough call.

Tough indeed. Gotta think, even if you don't pull the trigger and die, how can you know this guy hasn't already reached "The Pharaoh" stage, incapable of choosing God? Every time the guy is shown mercy, he hardens his heart even further! Then you may just be giving him a chance to kill more people...  :oops:

Of course, without the benefit of time for thought experiment, our instinct will be to pull the trigger every time (or maybe something less deadly, if it's a small dude with a small knife  :whip:), which makes me wonder if there is a reason for that. Usually it's not our instincts which lead to evil, but our premeditated fears and desires.

This whole thing raises a good point about killing in general, though... even if you are not robbing the person of salvation, you are certainly defiling the imago dei, robbing them of a chance to grow spiritually.

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I was once at an ATM machine getting $300 out. An individual I was totally unaware of was rapidly approaching behind me. This was a shopping center parking lot that was empty at the time (late afternoon on a holiday). I got the money and, rather than open my wallet and put the money in as was my wont, I contorted my face in a scowl, whipped around to squarely face this guy with a fierce look on my face and the money in my hand. My action gave him pause and he stopped about three steps away. He said, "You've got a lot of money". I answered, "AND IT'S MY MONEY!".:angry5:

He turned and walked away. I waited for him to be gone, put the money in my wallet, got in my car a ways off and drove away.

I had NO IDEA THAT GUY WAS THERE OR WHY I WAS TURNING AROUND RAPIDLY IN AN ANGRY FASHION. However, had I not done so, I'm certain I would have been mugged for $300.

It was the Holy Spirit. Non-believers will scoff. Others will say I'm just psychic and responded to a threat my eyes didn't register. I have no martial arts training. I don't even like to confront people. That wasn't ME.

But it worked. Praise God.  :icon_sunny:

If I have a kill or be killed situation, I'm certain the Holy Spirit will guide my decision. It really is a matter of Faith.

I was held up at gunpoint in a poker game about a year ago. Unfortunately, I didn't think to use your trick!

I just prayed for the safety of the other players and for my safety. I should have prayed for the robbers too, but I didn't...  :emthdown: instead I prayed they get caught... oh, "and if You don't mind", my money back!

But the great thing about prayers is that they don't always get answered... if they did, what would be the point??

"Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #305 on: June 29, 2013, 05:46:52 AM »
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I was held up at gunpoint in a poker game about a year ago. Unfortunately, I didn't think to use your trick!

This really surprises me Ashvin. Always had an image of your poker play being at a safe casino or friendly neighborhood game.

Difficult for me to imagine you in such an environment, just doesn't seem to mix, like oil and water.

Of course, this comment is meant in a friendly way, could not help relating my surprise to you.   :o

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #306 on: June 29, 2013, 05:56:23 AM »
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I was held up at gunpoint in a poker game about a year ago. Unfortunately, I didn't think to use your trick!

This really surprises me Ashvin. Always had an image of your poker play being at a safe casino or friendly neighborhood game.

Difficult for me to imagine you in such an environment, just doesn't seem to mix, like oil and water.

Of course, this comment is meant in a friendly way, could not help relating my surprise to you.   :o

Well it WAS a friendly neighborhood game. Right in the heart of suburbia, not in the Hood. The host got too comfortable with security, letting people go in and out as they please and spreading the word too much for new players. Someone from the game was definitely involved... the bad guys knew exactly where and when to come and how many players would be there. They had a plan and executed it pretty well!

I only play in one game now, with TIGHT security and a mostly repeat cast of players that I know well.

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #307 on: June 29, 2013, 06:10:09 AM »
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Well it WAS a friendly neighborhood game. Right in the heart of suburbia, not in the Hood. The host got too comfortable with security, letting people go in and out as they please and spreading the word too much for new players. Someone from the game was definitely involved... the bad guys knew exactly where and when to come and how many players would be there. They had a plan and executed it pretty well!

Yes, now I get it. Had false images of you playing in the back room of a pool hall or bar room with strangers as an initial reaction to your prior revelation.

What a shame, sure sounds like and inside job. Thank heavens you were unharmed and escaped with learning a valuable lesson!

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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #308 on: June 29, 2013, 06:27:21 AM »
I was held up at gunpoint in a poker game about a year ago. Unfortunately, I didn't think to use your trick!

I was attempted upon, but my Judge prevailed !

Use this trick:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jl-ZIo-Wztc#]Taurus The Judge - dirtydozensbunker.com forum&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jl-ZIo-Wztc#]Taurus The Judge - dirtydozensbunker.com forum&fs=1</a>
(please watch carefully @ 1:42 ...you can't miss !)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uprAWN2fjYE#ws]Taurus Judge With Winchester PDX1 Loads&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/uprAWN2fjYE#ws]Taurus Judge With Winchester PDX1 Loads&fs=1</a>
"Praise the Lord, but pass the ammunition" - use Winchester PDX1
- the one reason I didn't stay Amish...

Those who die in crime have made thier choice...
I will die in Christ, I have a choice to live that way too...

Yours truly, BC2K

« Last Edit: July 23, 2013, 07:34:28 AM by BC2K »
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« Reply #309 on: June 29, 2013, 02:07:07 PM »
Thank you Lucid and WHD. It is a pleasure to find approval from men of honor.  :emthup: :icon_sunny:

And thank you, RE, for acknowledging that there IS a curtain.  :icon_mrgreen:

If you discussed that lucky situation you got out of unscathed here at the diner when I was sick, I'd like to read about it if you could provide a link.

If you haven't gone into detail, I'd be interested in the weather, time of day, geography and if there were other vehicles around. I love to read about stories with good endings.  :icon_mrgreen:
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« Reply #310 on: June 29, 2013, 02:41:35 PM »
Thank you Lucid and WHD. It is a pleasure to find approval from men of honor.  :emthup: :icon_sunny:

And thank you, RE, for acknowledging that there IS a curtain.  :icon_mrgreen:

If you discussed that lucky situation you got out of unscathed here at the diner when I was sick, I'd like to read about it if you could provide a link.

If you haven't gone into detail, I'd be interested in the weather, time of day, geography and if there were other vehicles around. I love to read about stories with good endings.  :icon_mrgreen:

I wrote an article Defying Death, but never actually wrote the Part II with the Glenn Highway accident.  Its in here somewhere inside the Diner.

http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/2013/03/31/defying-death/

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RE Dodges Death on the Glenn Highway
« Reply #311 on: June 29, 2013, 02:48:54 PM »
Found it.  In the Frostbite Falls Daily Rant.  RE Dodges Death on the Glenn Highway
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Re: Zombie Rehab
« Reply #312 on: June 29, 2013, 04:10:36 PM »
RE,
YEP. Definitely the finger of God.  :icon_sunny:

I went over to the overpass just beyond Seward-Meridian on google earth. The area seems heavily used and could have easily had oncoming traffic that would have done you in.


I went along the street view for a while. It seems like most vehicles are pickup trucks, suvs or vans.

Alaskans are not going to like price gouging as gasoline gets scarcer.  :P
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« Reply #313 on: June 29, 2013, 06:19:34 PM »
I went along the street view for a while. It seems like most vehicles are pickup trucks, suvs or vans.

Alaskans are not going to like price gouging as gasoline gets scarcer.  :P

Basically everyone up here owns some sort of 4WD vehicle, it is almost a necessity in winter.  I often can't get out of a parking spot without flipping it on, though I try not to use it once going, since it eats up more gas.

On that note, one thing I did NOT have presence of mind to do when I went into the skid was flip on the 4WD, which you can do on the fly in most 4WD vehicles nowadays.  Had I done that, I probably would have got rolling traction back on the front wheels and been able to straighten out the SUV on the highway.  Not something I was trained for on the Schneider Skid Pad.  If it ever happens again though, this is a new one in my Arsenal of Driving Techniques I will try first, before going Evil Knievel at an Embankment.  LOL.

Man, I really FLEW!  By chance, one of the people I know who was at the same event with me in Chugiak was in a following car and saw the whole thing.  He didn't know it was me, only next day when I was blabbing about it at work did he say, "THAT WAS YOU?!?!?"  He got off the highway at the next exit and went back to see if whoever is was was OK.  By the time he got there, I was already back on the road.  I am semi-famous now as a Stunt Driver.  LOL.

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The 10 Actions, NO NUANCE, approach to the Zombie Apocalyspe
« Reply #314 on: July 02, 2013, 09:01:02 PM »
The 10 Actions, NO NUANCE, approach to the Zombie Apocalyspe

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jdI-OEbyHC4#&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jdI-OEbyHC4#&fs=1</a>

I admit I do like the "stock up un peanut butter" idea.   :icon_mrgreen: Cheer up, fellow Doomsteaders! The late awaking humans are being advised to AVOID Doomstead communities because they are "armed and ready for a fight" (they probably have BC2K's choice the weapon --> THE JUDGE  ).

So what's wrong with this picture? Simply this. The human that woke up a little late seems to have EXACTLY THE SAME GOALS as the "zombies" (Get stuff and eat). NO NUANCE translates to ANYTHING GOES.

Is this a video a joke or is some clever Doomsteader trying to convince the hordes of hungry to stay clear of survival communities? Hmmmm... Could be.  ;)

What to do, aside from saving a lot of peanut butter and becoming self sufficient, etc., BEFORE TSHTF?

As Luciddreams says, "The best we can do is attempt to curtail that eventuality by fostering community.".


After TSHTF every person must obey their conscience.

Your stomach's contents or lack of them is a great motivator but a lousy guide to conscientious behavior. It is most certainly an essential part of the equation but, IMHO, less important than the spiritual side of the equation.

May God have mercy on us and guide us to the proper decision each and every time.
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