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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #255 on: September 13, 2013, 03:57:15 AM »
Fine article.

In re Rand Paul's pronouncement that Obama "is making a joke of us, " I would suggest that the Senator from Kentucky requires no additional assistance on that score.
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Re: Choose WISELY where you Hole Up!
« Reply #256 on: September 13, 2013, 05:54:30 AM »
Syrian Rebels Slit Throat of Christian Man Who Refused To Convert To Islam, Taunt Fiance, “Jesus Didn’t Come To Save Him”


Unwise to be a Christian in a Sea of Muslims these days.

Unwise to be a White Guy in Downtown Detroit these days.

Unwise to be a Black Man in Patterson, NJ in 1960.  "In Patterson, that's just the way things go.  You better not show up on the Street less you wanna draw the HEAT."

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Re: Choose WISELY where you Hole Up!
« Reply #257 on: September 14, 2013, 06:28:40 PM »
Syrian Rebels Slit Throat of Christian Man Who Refused To Convert To Islam, Taunt Fiance, “Jesus Didn’t Come To Save Him”


Unwise to be a Christian in a Sea of Muslims these days.

Unwise to be a White Guy in Downtown Detroit these days.

Unwise to be a Black Man in Patterson, NJ in 1960.  "In Patterson, that's just the way things go.  You better not show up on the Street less you wanna draw the HEAT."

Hurricane - Bob Dylan on Vimeo


Unwise to be a Gringo in the Banana Republics in the near future.

Unwise to be a Liberal on TBP at any time.

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Don't be a WOMAN in Egypt...or Texas.

that's funny :laugh:

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Re: The Syria Desk: Putin Steps into World Leadership Role
« Reply #258 on: September 16, 2013, 04:08:45 AM »
Great article from Sibel Edmonds  :emthup:

“The Squealing Stuck Pigs Include Human Rights Watch Bloggers Who Seem to be Financed Out of the CIA’s Back Pocket.”
                                                               
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Putin’s article in the September 11 New York Times has the stuck pigs squealing. The squealing stuck pigs are just who you thought they would be–all those whose agendas and profits would be furthered by an attack on Syria by the obama Stasi regime.

Included among the squealing stuck pigs are Human Rights Watch bloggers who seem to be financed out of the CIA’s back pocket.

Does any institution remain that has not been corrupted by Washington’s money?

Notice that the reason Putin is being criticized is that he has blocked the obama regime from attacking Syria and slaughtering countless numbers of Syrians in the name of human rights. The stuck pigs are outraged that obama’s war has been blocked. They were so much looking forward to the mass slaughter that they believe would advance their profits and agendas.

Most of Putin’s critics are too intellectually challenged to comprehend that Putin’s brilliant and humane article has left Putin the leader of the free world and defender of the rule of law and exposed obama for what he is–the leader of a rogue, lawless, unaccountable government committed to lies and war crimes.

Putin, being diplomatic, was very careful in his criticism of obama’s September 10 speech in which obama sought to justify Washington’s lawlessness in terms of “American exceptionalism.” Obama, attempting to lift his criminal regime by the bootstraps up into the moral heavens, claimed that United States government policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.”

What obama told Americans is exactly what Hitler told the Germans. The Russians, having borne more than anyone else the full weight of the German war machine, know how dangerous it is to encourage people to think of themselves as exceptional, unbound by law, the Geneva Conventions, the UN Security Council, and humane concerns for others. Putin reminded obama that “God created us equal.”

If Putin had wanted to give obama the full rebuke that obama deserves, Putin could have said: “obama is correct that the policy of the US government is what makes the US exceptional. The US is the only country in the world that has attacked 8 countries in 12 years, murdering and dispossessing millions of Muslims all on the basis of lies. This is not an exceptionalism of which to be proud.”

Putin is obviously more than a match for the immoral, low grade morons that Americans put into high office. However, Putin should not underestimate the mendacity of his enemies in Washington. Putin warned that the militants that Washington is breeding in the Middle East are an issue of deep concern. When these militants return to their own countries, they spread destabilization, as when extremists used by the US in the overthrow of Libya moved on to Mali.

The destabilization of other countries is precisely the main aim of Washington’s wars in the Middle East. Washington intends for radicalization of Muslims to spread strife into the Muslim populations of Russia and China. Washington’s propaganda machine will then turn these terrorists into “freedom fighters against oppressive Russian and Chinese governments,” and use Human Rights Watch and other organizations that Washington has penetrated and corrupted to denounce Russia and China for committing war crimes against freedom fighters. No doubt, chemical weapons attacks will be orchestrated, just as they have been in Syria.

If Washington’s NATO puppet states wake up in time, the warmongers in Washington can be isolated, and humanity could be spared WWIII.

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Paul Craig Roberts, Boiling Frogs Post contributing author, is a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He has been reporting on executive branch and cases of prosecutorial abuse for two decades. He has written or co-written eight books, contributed chapters to numerous books, and has published many articles in journals of scholarship. Mr. Roberts has testified before congressional committees on 30 occasions on issues of economic policy, and has been a critic of both Democratic and Republican administrations. You can visit his website here.

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http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/09/13/putin-steps-into-world-leadership-role/  :icon_study:
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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #259 on: September 16, 2013, 06:42:27 AM »
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Four thumbs up for that article.
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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #260 on: September 16, 2013, 11:26:26 AM »
USA has indeed fallen far when a vicious empire builder like Putin can portray himself (with legitimacy) as a saint compared to our current and recent presidents. 
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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #261 on: September 16, 2013, 11:55:39 AM »
USA has indeed fallen far when a vicious empire builder like Putin can portray himself (with legitimacy) as a saint compared to our current and recent presidents.

That's how I see it Snowleopard, a sorry state of affairs indeed.

The article I posted made me much more sad than it did angry.  Then, as usual, the old billion hollow point bullets comes to mind. What has happened to our country?   :'(

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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #262 on: September 16, 2013, 04:09:45 PM »
The article I posted made me much more sad than it did angry.  Then, as usual, the old billion hollow point bullets comes to mind. What has happened to our country?   :'(

Yes, it IS sad.  :( 

Obviously they stole the nation, it's debatable exactly when.   The bullets are probably for when they decide to cull the herd and/or for any who try to take the nation back before then.
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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #263 on: September 17, 2013, 03:24:41 AM »
On The Syrian Front, The World Is Not Out of The Woods Yet: Prepare For New False Flags To Be Blamed On Assad
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2013/09/on-syrian-front-world-is-not-out-of.html

Why is the Syrian government declaring victory after the U.S. and Russia made a deal about the status of its chemical weapons? This is an obnoxious and stupid move. No victory is a victory if it is not decisive.

Don't the Syrian officials know that full-scale war against them is still on the agenda? This diplomatic breakthrough between the United States and Russia is tentative at best, and purposely designed to fail because of the artificially shortened timetable to hand over the chemical weapons.

Syria has conceded its chemical weapons stockpile, but what has the Obama administration gave in return? That it will put off aggressive and illegal strikes until future notice? This is supposed to be a victory? A bully stops punching you for a minute or two, and you declare victory?

This is not a victory. The bully has not been beaten, not in the least, it is still in bully-mode. America is still a source of terror to Syria and the whole region.

Declare victory when the bully leaves the playground and goes home for good, not when he's staying around the area and still trying to kick his victims to the ground.

Washington has yet to admit its role in arming, training, and financing the Jihadist terrorists in Syria, who were behind the chemical weapons attack in August. Washington still has its missiles and ships in motion in the Mediterranean and across the region, ready to strike at a moment's notice. Its finger is still on the trigger, and it wants to pull it the minute it feels right. The crazies are still running the show in DC. So, please, Syria, stop this delusional talk of "victory."

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Ray McGovern writes:
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One still has to wonder what might revive prospects for U.S. missile strikes. Some in the Middle East are worried about the possibility that radical jihadists among the Syrian rebels might try to derail peace talks by launching a chemical weapons attack against Israeli targets with the hope that the provocation will be blamed on the Assad regime and set off a rush to retaliate.
Whether likely or not, it is a threat that the cooler heads in the Obama administration should anticipate and be ready to head off.


Tony Cartalucci writes:
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Reports of sniper fire targeting UN inspectors attempting to investigate an alleged August 2013 chemical weapons attack in Damascus, Syria already give a troubling indication of the dangers future inspectors face amongst a landscape plagued with dangerous, lawless terrorists the West has purposefully empowered and is currently perpetuating in Syria.
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Re: The Syria Desk - Massacres reported in Alawite villages
« Reply #264 on: October 02, 2013, 07:19:39 PM »
Very little seems to be getting out, in proportion to what is happening.  But the more i read, the more disgusted i am with our "masters" for supporting these so-called rebels:

-- from the Guardian, Wednesday 2 October 2013 02.41 EDT


Syria: massacre reports emerge from Assad's Alawite heartland


Alawites are fleeing their homes, recounting gruesome tales of executions and other atrocities


For more than two years, as fighting has escalated throughout Syria, a group of villages peopled by government supporters in the mountains above this coastal city has been spared any attacks.


In spite of their proximity to the Turkish border, across which rebel fighters are armed and financed, farmers continued their lives as normal, even though as Alawites allied to the Shia sect to which President Bashar al-Assad belongs they could have been obvious targets.


At dawn on 4 August their peace was shattered. Armed rebels, led by local jihadis as well as members of Jabhat al-Nusra and the al-Qaida linked group, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, left their headquarters in the largely Sunni town of Salma. They sneaked into the al-Akrad mountains, taking control of five Alawite villages. The rebels called it Operation Liberation of the Coast and the aim was to send the government a message that even the Alawite heartland was no longer safe.


Rumours of massacres spread as some 25,000 Alawite villagers fled to Latakia. The next day the rebels captured more Alawite villages and reached Aramo, about 12 miles north of Qardaha, the Assads' home town where Hafez al-Assad, the former president, is buried in a mausoleum. Over the next few days government forces regrouped and gradually recovered the lost ground with help from air strikes as well as local paramilitaries.


On 19 August Syrian state TV reported that all the Alawite villages had been freed. But they did not highlight any massacres and refrained from showing graphic images of mutilation.


"For the first time the government acted discreetly because they feared a sectarian war could break out all along the coast. At the beginning they even denied massacres took place", Rajaa Nasser, an opposition politician in Damascus told the Guardian. He speculated that the attacks on the Alawites could have been revenge for the slaughter of Sunnis in Banias and Baida in May, two places about 30 miles south of the city of Latakia. Human Rights Watch said 248 Sunni civilians were executed there.


The Syrian army has not allowed foreign reporters into the Alawite villages to check the massacre reports, but in Latakia city the Guardian spoke to three officers who took part in recapturing the villages. Each was interviewed in separate locations. Two were relaxing off-duty in beach-front hotels and villas. They spoke of executions and other atrocities.


"The attacks started with treachery," said Hassan, an officer in Syria's special forces. "There was a unit of 40 troops. A Sunni defected from it and took 30 other Sunnis with him. A few days later they were part of the attack that started with the village of Hambushiya. The 10 Alawite troops left behind in the area were killed." Hassan said he could listen to the rebel's radio communications. "I heard a rebel telling another rebel: 'Kill this one, but not that one' . One rebel asked: 'What do I do about the girls?' The answer came: 'I'm sending a truck to pick them up'. Several were taken and raped, and have not been seen again," he said.


"They kidnapped Sheikh Badr Ghazal and stripped girls and the sheikh to humiliate him. The sheikh was then killed. Rebels videoed the events and we found the pictures on the mobiles of dead rebels when we retook the villages. They have not been shown on Syrian TV or media because they are too distressing."


Shadi, a 32-year-old officer in a local defence unit that is separate from the Syrian army, was lightly wounded during the government's counter-attack. "When we got into the village of Balouta I saw a baby's head hanging from a tree. There was a woman's body which had been sliced in half from head to toe and each half was hanging from separate apple trees. It made me feel I wanted to do something wild," he recalled.


Ali, a member of the regular army, said he also saw the baby's head. "We found two mass graves with 140 bodies. They were not shot. They had their throats slit. About 105 people of different ages were kidnapped," he said. "It's really scary what happened. Nobody has gone home to the villages because so much has been destroyed and many houses have been burnt. The whole area is unusable. Salafists from abroad were behind the attack."


The officers' accounts cannot be independently verified but the Guardian has obtained lists, compiled by local activists, with the names of victims from Hambushiya, Balouta, and five other villages. They include 62 people listed as killed, 60 kidnapped and 139 people who are missing. The dead range in age from a toddler of two to a man of 90. The vast majority are women, children and the elderly since most men in the villages were away on duty as part of the volunteer defence forces elsewhere in the region. They did not expect their own villages to come under attack.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/02/syria-massacre-reports-alawites-assad
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Re: The Syria Desk - Reported Israeli Airstrike
« Reply #265 on: November 01, 2013, 05:12:35 PM »
from RT


Israel won't comment on Syria strike, vows to hinder Hezbollah arms shipments


Israel has declined to comment on airstrikes which allegedly hit a Syrian air defense base on Thursday. Instead, officials issued a déjà vu statement which said that Israel will not allow advanced weapons to fall into the hands of Hezbollah.

“We have said many times that we will not allow the transfer of advanced weapons to Hezbollah. We are sticking to this policy and I say so without denying or confirming this report,” Home Front Defense Minister Gilad Erdan told Israeli Radio on Friday.
 
The Home Front reportedly met just hours before the alleged airstrike on Syria’s base in Latakia.
 
On Thursday afternoon, an explosion rocked an area which housed an air force brigade with troops loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad, an activist based in the principal Syrian port city of Latakia told Reuters.
 
The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which has a network of contacts in Syria, said there had been up to five explosions at the air force base but that only limited damage was reported. The damage suggested a pinpoint guided missile strike, an anonymous local source told the organization.
 
A former Syrian intelligence agent who has defected to France alleged that Russian-made ballistic missiles had been stored at the air force base that was attacked.
 
However, neither Israel nor Syria confirmed that the strike took place at all.

A confirmation came from a US security official instead, who leaked to the press that Israel carried out the strikes and that the target was surface-to-air SA 125 missiles.
 
Israel was less than amused with the leak. Yedioth Ahronoth, the top selling Israeli daily, said that “Washington is selling our secrets on the cheap.”
 
Israel is believed to have attacked Syria on four occasions, the last time on July 5, 2013. At that time, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu again said that he wouldn’t let Hezbollah get its hands on sophisticated weapons.
 
Israel also attacked a military research center outside Damascus on May 5. The airstrike was confirmed by a senior US official to NBC news, who said that it targeted Iranian supplied Fateh-110 missiles.
 
A senior Israeli source confirmed to AFP that an Israeli airstrike carried out near the Damascus airport targeted Iranian missiles which were destined for Hezbollah.
 
The Syrian Ministry of Health did not confirm if there were casualties, though rumors on Syrian social media say that at least 300 soldiers who were stationed there were killed.
 
Hezbollah is based in Lebanon and has close relations with Shia states such as Iran. It also has close ties with Assad’s Alawite leadership in Syria.
 
Hezbollah actively supports the Palestinian cause and is in a state of virtual war with Israel. In 2006, a 34-day conflict raged between Israeli armed forces and Hezbollah in Lebanon, northern Israel, and the Golan Heights.
 
http://rt.com/news/israel-syria-air-strikes-103/




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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #266 on: August 04, 2017, 01:02:11 AM »
You can breathe a Sigh of Relief.

Elvis sees escalation of the Syrian War as unlikely.  From Economic Undertow:

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For this reason, there is diminishing likelihood of a US or NATO attack on Syria, only saber-rattling to keep the crude price from plunging below cost of production. The consuming world cannot afford to attack Syria, it cannot afford the risk of a wider conflict, it cannot afford for the Saudis and Iranians to launch missiles at each others’ tankers, pipelines, fuel terminals and desalinization plants. As with everything else in this not-quite-so-green Earth, there are diminished returns to war.

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Re: The Syria Desk
« Reply #267 on: August 04, 2017, 01:02:15 AM »
The US hits the debt ceiling in mid-October. Maybe the reason for the US going into Syria is all about debt creation? The US invades Syria creating more debt. R's get to pump up the war machine - keeping the illuminati satisfied.  The R's will support the increase in debt cuz the US will be "at war".

There will be a "common cause" for killing yet more brown people in the ME. D's are delighted to have more spending. R's get an erection rampin' up the war machine and sticking J6pack with more debt.
// That certainly makes sense to me, Joe P. Nice going.
// To me it seems you are missing the point GO. I think Joe P is saying that this action will unite both skunk parties. It has no relation to whether Obama is a republican or democrat. He has shown that it makes not one iota of difference to him. He is a lackey to those above the two tweedledum tweedledee so called parties who are really calling the shots. Because republicans love war they wil not object to more debt and more spending to facilitate the same. Ditto for the democrats; they too can get their hands in the till. You are very right about one thing though. Its all about money and especially so for big oil and big armaments and a chance for the whores of congress to further spread their butts. Karpatok

Obama is not a Republican JoeP, nor is his staff of advisors.

 

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