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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #645 on: June 06, 2017, 01:54:59 AM »
In Blum's latest Anti-Empire Report (always worth a read), he mentions The Arseniy Yatsenyuk Foundation whose Partners include US Department of State, the National Endowment for Democracy, Chatham House - no need to background them.

Other Partners are:
NATO Information and Documentation Centre, Ukraine
Black Sea Trust for Regional Cooperation, a project of the German Marshall Fund. This fund was set up by Germany, but is headquartered in Washington DC and is an American public policy think tank and grant-making institution dedicated to promoting greater cooperation and understanding between North America and Europe.

Horizon Capital - private equity fund manager .

Swedbank, the largest bank in Sweden and the Baltic region. Its Ukrainian branch was sold in 2013 to Mr. Mykola Lagun, the majority owner in Delta Bank:
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/mykola-lagun-expands-in-banking-324158.html
Mykola Lagun has become one of the most active players on the Ukrainian banking market since 2010.  Local businessmen are rushing to pounce on the golden opportunity being offered by foreign banks, who continue to divest their Ukrainian assets at prices far below those they paid before the global financial crisis.

The Victor Pinchuk Foundation. Pinchuk is a Ukrainian jewish billionaire industrialist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Pinchuk
In 2004 Pinchuk and Rinat Akhmetov, two of Ukraine's richest men, acquired the Kryvorizhstal steel factory for about $800 million.[5] Later, the first Tymoshenko Government reversed this sale, and held a nationally-televised repeat auction that netted a $4.8 billion.[5]

International Renaissance Foundation  is part of the Open Society Foundations network established by investor and philanthropist George Soros.

And finally Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #646 on: June 06, 2017, 01:55:18 AM »
So, the great peace conference has come and gone, the only outcome being the short and vague http://eeas.europa.eu/statements/docs/2014/140417_01_en.pdf Joint Statement  , immediately followed by
http://rt.com/news/kiev-troops-southeast-ukraine-244/ Kiev: Military operation in Ukraine southeast to go on despite Geneva agreement
http://rt.com/usa/obama-press-conference-ukraine-268/ Obama: We are preparing additional sanctions against Russia
http://rt.com/business/russia-west-oil-prices-136/ Putin says oil wars with Russia will make West bleed
and today this from the Polish Defence Minister:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/04/18/u-s-ground-troops-going-to-poland-defense-minister-says/
U.S. ground troops going to Poland, defense minister says

By Fred Hiatt   
April 18 2014

Poland and the United States will announce next week the deployment of U.S. ground forces to Poland as part of an expansion of NATO presence in Central and Eastern Europe in response to events in Ukraine. That was the word from Poland’s defense minister, Tomasz Siemoniak, who visited The Post Friday after meeting with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon on Thursday.

Siemoniak said the decision has been made on a political level and that military planners are working out details. There will also be intensified cooperation in air defense, special forces, cyberdefense and other areas. Poland will play a leading regional role, “under U.S. patronage,” he said.

But the defense minister also said that any immediate NATO response to Russian aggression in Ukraine, while important, matter less than a long-term shift in the defense postures of Europe and America. The United States, having announced a “pivot” to Asia, needs to “re-pivot” to Europe, he said, and European countries that have cut back on defense spending need to reverse the trends.

“The idea until recently was that there were no more threats in Europe and no need for a U.S. presence in Europe any more,” Siemoniak said, speaking through an interpreter. “Events show that what is needed is a re-pivot, and that Europe was safe and secure because America was in Europe.”

How likely is such a reversal on defense spending? Siemoniak said there was widespread support at a recent meeting of European defense ministers. “Now they’ll go back to their presidents, prime ministers and ministers of finance, and this will stop being easy,” he admitted.

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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #647 on: July 13, 2017, 08:06:59 PM »
Voting "to abolish immunity for certain MPs" means voting to lock the opposition up.

https://www.rt.com/news/396264-ukraine-nationalists-clashes-police-rada/
Up to 1,000 Ukrainian nationalists clash with police, block parliament
13 Jul, 2017

Around 1,000 protesters, mainly from Ukraine's nationalist movements, have blocked the parliament building in Kiev and several streets in the area, while deputies were voting on immunity of certain MPs. Police deployed tear gas to repel crowds turning violent.

Having gathered in the center of the Ukrainian capital at the entrance to the Verkhovna Rada parliament building on Thursday morning, around 1,000 protesters scattered smoke pellets and started banging on metal barrels with sticks, Interfax Ukraine reported.

Clashes erupted between the protesters – many of who covered their faces with black masks – and police, with some nationalists having pepper sprayed the officers, Ruptly reported. Police deployed tear gas against the protesters.

No one has been arrested, according to Interfax.

Inside the building, MPs were voting on the abolition of parliamentary immunity for certain opposition deputies, as requested by Ukraine's prosecutor general.

Outside, the protesters with nationalist flags demanded the abolition, with hundreds of them burning flares and smoke pellets, as well as throwing fire crackers, Ukrainian 112 TV channel reported.

The same day, Ukraine-EU summit has been taking place in Kiev. Speaking at the meeting, President of the European Council Donald Tusk has called on Ukraine to stay united and avoid internal conflicts, rather than worry about external threats.
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« Reply #648 on: July 24, 2017, 11:42:52 PM »
https://www.rt.com/news/397401-ukraine-arms-us-envoy/
US mulls sending arms to Kiev, doesn’t view move as 'provocative' – US special envoy to Ukraine
25 Jul, 2017

Washington is considering sending “defensive” weapons to Ukraine, US special representative Kurt Volker says. He insists the potential move, long desired by Kiev, would not be "provocative." It comes as Moscow warns against fueling Ukraine's civil war.

In an interview with the BBC on Tuesday, Volker, who was appointed by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson as the US special representative for Ukraine negotiations in July, said that US authorities are pondering whether to ship armaments to Kiev.

Noting that the discussion is currently focused on “defensive weapons, ones that would allow Ukraine to defend itself and to take out tanks, for example,” Volker argued that such supplies “would actually to help [sic]” Kiev fend off alleged encroachments from Moscow.

Volker fell short of providing any indication of when such a deal could be reached between Washington and Kiev, saying that he is “not again predicting where we go on this.”

However, he claimed that despite the unresolved conflict in eastern Ukraine, Washington does not view such a move as "provocative."

“I think that argument that it would be provocative to Russia or emboldening of Ukraine is just getting it backwards,” Volker told the BBC, adding that the US believes a “new strategic dialogue” with Moscow is needed to resolve the Ukrainian conflict, which has recently seen a spike in violence.

Volker, who is a former adviser to US Senator John McCain and a former US ambassador to NATO, previously described the conflict between Donbass rebels and Kiev as a "hot war” and an "immediate crisis,” as opposed to a frozen conflict. Volker visited Ukraine on Sunday, offering comments on camera and posing with Ukrainian servicemen before driving off in an armored vehicle.

Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko said in June that Kiev had almost worked out an agreement with Washington on defensive weapons. Hailing the progress reached on “defensive agreements” with the US, the Ukrainian leader claimed the parties “have an almost consensual text of the agreement [about the arms supplies].” Poroshenko voiced hope that the deals would be finalized within the present fiscal year.

Poroshenko’s assurances came on the heels of his meeting with US President Donald Trump, Defense Secretary James Mattis, and other senior US officials during a visit to Washington in June. Poroshenko said he discussed the issue with Tillerson, adding that the agreement could be signed once Mattis arrives in Ukraine.

While no official date for the visit has been announced, the Ukrainian ambassador to the US, Valery Chaly, said in June that Kiev had invited Mattis, Tillerson, and US Secretary of Energy Rick Perry to visit Ukraine before the end of the year. Tillerson visited Ukraine earlier this month.

Last week, fighting in Donbass that had seemingly subsided in recent months again intensified, claiming at least 12 lives. The surge in violence sparked concern among observers and mediators of the Minsk agreements and was addressed during a telephone conversation between the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France, and Germany - known as the 'Normandy Four' - on Monday.

While negotiations surrounding weapons supplies to Ukraine currently appear to concern only “defensive” weapons, Ukrainian authorities have repeatedly said they are eager to receive “lethal” arms from the US.

Meanwhile, Russia has warned Washington against fueling the civil conflict in Ukraine by funneling lethal weapons to Kiev.

Stressing that the potential arms deal between Kiev and Washington is an “exclusively internal matter” between the two countries, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Moscow hopes Washington "would not forget that Ukraine is the country where the civil war is ongoing.”

Last week, Ukraine’s defense minister, Stepan Poltorak, reiterated that Kiev is waiting for Washington to greenlight the transfer of lethal arms to Ukraine, as proposed by the US Senate Armed Services Committee in June.

Following the proposal, an unnamed US State Department official told RIA Novosti that the US has not yet made up its mind on whether to supply lethal arms to Kiev.
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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #649 on: July 25, 2017, 02:10:37 AM »
https://www.rt.com/news/397401-ukraine-arms-us-envoy/
US mulls sending arms to Kiev, doesn’t view move as 'provocative' – US special envoy to Ukraine
25 Jul, 2017

Washington is considering sending “defensive” weapons to Ukraine, US special representative Kurt Volker says. He insists the potential move, long desired by Kiev, would not be "provocative." It comes as Moscow warns against fueling Ukraine's civil war.

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Following the proposal, an unnamed US State Department official told RIA Novosti that the US has not yet made up its mind on whether to supply lethal arms to Kiev.

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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #650 on: May 16, 2018, 06:53:50 PM »
As US bridges fall apart due to lack of a trillion dollars worth of maintenance, Russia has opened what is now the longest bridge in Europe,  connecting mainland Russia with Crimean Peninsula. The US response - bomb it.

https://www.rt.com/news/426936-ukraine-bomb-putin-bridge/
Bomb Putin’s bridge, US commentator bizarrely advises Ukraine
16 May, 2018

Russia’s opening of a bridge to Crimea, a former part of Ukraine which officials in Kiev consider rightfully theirs, requires a swift bombing raid by Ukraine’s air force, believes a conservative US commentator.

The bold suggestion to the Ukrainian government to escalate a conflict with a much more powerful nation came on Tuesday from Tom Rogan, a prolific British-educated conservative commenter with the Washington Examiner. The Washington DC-based journalist sees the bridge, which was opened by Russian President Vladimir Putin, not as a major infrastructure feature. No – it’s Putin’s way to mark Crimea as his own, the journalist says.

“This bridge is an outrageous affront to Ukraine's very credibility as a nation. Of course, from Putin’s perspective that's the whole point,” he wrote. “The bridge cost Russia’s near-bankrupt government billions of dollars, but it offers Putin a formal physical and psychological appropriation of Ukrainian territory.”

So an air raid on the bridge launched by Kiev is an appropriate response to the debacle, believes Rogan, whose background apparently includes a BA in War Studies from King’s College London.

“Fortunately Ukraine has the means to launch air strikes against the bridge in a manner that would render it at least temporarily unusable. Because of its significant length, the Ukrainian air force could strike the bridge while mitigating the risk of casualties by those traversing it,” he said.

So what would Putin do in response to such an insult to his supposed ego? Not much, according to Rogan. He will order an “escalation against Ukrainian interests in eastern Ukraine,” which, the commentator claims, is inevitable anyway because Putin wants to “slowly absorb Ukraine rather than conquer it outright.”

OK, where do we start?

A “near bankrupt” Russian government exists in a parallel universe, where Russia’s economy produces only gas and is in tatters from American sanctions. Kiev’s desire to win back Crimea, the people of which are quite happy to be back in Russia, is doubtful: you don’t cut supplies of freshwater and power to people whom you want to see as your fellow citizens. And why would the Kremlin seek to “slowly absorb” its western neighbor with all its crumbling infrastructure, international debt and partially hostile population is beyond comprehension.

But suppose the government in Kiev will actually have the guts to directly attack Russia, taking inspiration from Georgia, which started its ill-advised military adventure in South Ossetia in 2008 by killing Russian peacemakers stationed there. Does Ukraine really have the means to damage the bridge, which, among other things, is a military asset defended by Russian forces?

There are two regiments of S-400 anti-aircraft systems deployed in Crimea – primarily to defend the Russian naval base on the peninsula. But their range is more than enough to shoot down missiles and aircraft trying to hit the bridge. Judging by what Rogan wrote elsewhere, he doesn’t doubt that the S-400 could make the better-armed Israel think twice.

Ukraine’s military assets remain in poor shape despite four years of increased military spending. It has several dozen Soviet tactical, ballistic missiles of the Tochka type – the weapon system closest to delivering an airstrike with no risk of losing manned aircraft – but it’s not clear how many of them are ready to be launched. The Ukrainian military would also have to deploy dozens of launchers within less than a hundred kilometers from the bridge to have a chance to overwhelm Russian defenses, and do so discretely to avoid preemptive counter-measures.

Ironically Rogan joins a long list of experts and politicians in Ukraine who have suggested various scenarios of attacking the Crimean bridge in the past few years, from retired general Igor Romanenko, who too envisioned a devastating airstrike, to nationalist leader Nikolay Kokhanovsky, who said his group “may hang a banner there” – or simply attack a Russian diplomatic mission instead. As the saying goes, the dog barks, but the caravan goes on.
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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #651 on: May 16, 2018, 07:33:22 PM »
As US bridges fall apart due to lack of a trillion dollars worth of maintenance, Russia has opened what is now the longest bridge in Europe,  connecting mainland Russia with Crimean Peninsula. The US response - bomb it.

Actually, NYS just finished adding a new ramp to the Verrazano Narrows Bridge to allow more Buses to use the HOV lanes.  The Verrazano is one of the longest suspension bridges in the world, if not the longest.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20171013/fort-wadsworth/verrazano-narrows-bridge-express-bus-hov-lane/

New Verrazano Bridge Ramp Lets Express Buses Use HOV Lane to Reduce Traffic
By Nicholas Rizzi | October 13, 2017 4:28pm | Updated on October 16, 2017 9:40am


The MTA added a slip-ramp for buses to switch between the upper- to lower-level of the bridge so they can stay on the HOV lane but still use early exits.
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FORT WADSWORTH — All Staten Island-bound express buses can now use the HOV lane along the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge to ease one of the longest commutes in the country.

Previously, four express bus lines couldn't use the bridge's upper-level HOV lane because they needed to exit from ramps only available on the the lower level.

After complaints of gridlock from commuters, the MTA on Wednesday added a bus-only "slip ramp" to let them switch from the upper to the lower level of the span and also changed the lines of the routes to exit at Fingerboard Road instead, Councilman Steven Matteo announced.

"We specifically advocated for a contiguous HOV lane to and from Manhattan to ease one of the toughest commutes in the country and to encourage more commuters to use fast, reliable express buses. So it was a cruel irony that all express buses couldn't fully utilize the HOV lane once that became a reality last month," Matteo said in a statement.

Last month, he and Borough President James Oddo wrote a letter calling for a solution to the problem.

“I am very pleased the MTA heard the concerns of Borough President Oddo and I when we brought this problem to them, and then provided a solution," Matteo added.

After a troubled rollout on the bridge's Brooklyn-bound carpool lane in the summer, the MTA opened the Staten Island-bound one Sept. 5.

However, the agency did not update the routes, and X4, X5, X7 and X8 buses were forced to exit the HOV lane before getting on the bridge and face traffic on the lower level.

With the new bus-only ramp, the buses will be able to ride the HOV lane from the Battery Tunnel to Staten Island without cutting out any stops, Matteo added.

NYS also just finished the first span of the new Tappan Zee Bridge to replace the nearly 100 year old one crossing the Hudson River to Upstate NY.  This one was an enormous project.  Now they have to demolish the old span so they put in the second new span next to the one currently completed.  Current cost onmthis one, around $4B.  How much did Vlad spend for the Crimea Bridge?

http://www.newnybridge.com/about/


About The Project
The New NY Bridge to replace the Tappan Zee continues to make great progress on the Hudson River.

The New York State Thruway Authority is replacing the Tappan Zee Bridge with a new 3.1-mile state-of-the-art, twin-span bridge across the Hudson River between Rockland and Westchester counties.

The $3.98 billion Governor Mario M. Cuomo Bridge is one of the largest single design-build contracts for a transportation project in the United States. Located less than 20 miles north of New York City, the cable-stayed span crosses one of the widest parts of the river and will be the largest bridge in New York State history.
A New NY Bridge

All traffic from the old bridge is now temporarily shifted onto the first new span, providing four lanes in each direction. The new traffic pattern will allow design-builder Tappan Zee Constructors to demolish the old bridge’s landings and complete the new bridge’s second span in these areas in 2018.

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Why Replace the Tappan Zee Bridge?

The Governor Malcolm Wilson Tappan Zee Bridge opened to traffic in 1955 and, until its retirement on October 6, 2017, was a vital artery for residents, commuters, travelers and commercial traffic. Bridge traffic grew to about 140,000 vehicles per day in 2016, far more than the Tappan Zee was designed to support. Heavy traffic, narrow lanes and the lack of emergency shoulders had the potential to create unsafe driving conditions. As a result, the bridge had twice the average accident rate per mile as the rest of the 570-mile Thruway system. Hundreds of millions of dollars were spent to maintain the structure in recent years, and the cost of maintaining it for the foreseeable future rivaled the cost of the new bridge, with no improvements to current traffic conditions. The New York State Thruway Authority retired the bridge on Oct. 6, 2017, after nearly 62 years of service.
A Sensible Solution

When complete in 2018, the Governor Mario M. Cuomo Bridge will mean less congestion and frustration for motorists, with eight general traffic lanes, breakdown/emergency lanes, and a state-of-the-art traffic monitoring system. The new crossing will also be mass-transit ready, with space for Bus Rapid Transit as well as a design that can accommodate future light rail or commuter rail. The bridge will also feature a shared-use path for pedestrians and cyclists.

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From Dysfunction To Construction

Plans for a new bridge to replace the Tappan Zee were first discussed in 1999, and over the following decade, $88 million taxpayer dollars were spent, 430 meetings were held, and 150 concepts were considered – yet still, the project did not move forward. Under Governor Andrew M. Cuomo’s leadership and with the support of President Barack Obama and U.S. Department of Transportation, the project has moved from dysfunction to construction. Since October 2011, new design-build legislation was enacted, a fast tracked federal environmental review and concurrent procurement processes have been completed, a project labor agreement with construction unions was negotiated, and construction activities commenced – all with an unprecedented level of transparency and community involvement.
Preserving The Environment

Extensive measures will be in place throughout the duration of the project to protect the environment and to monitor the impact of construction on surrounding communities. Wildlife in the Lower Hudson Valley is rich and diverse, featuring endangered peregrine falcons, Indiana bats and Atlantic sturgeon. As a result, it is necessary for large-scale operations like the New NY Bridge project to undergo an extensive permit process to help protect these creatures. The project team has worked closely with the National Marine Fisheries Service, the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and several other oversight agencies to establish the highest environmental standards and minimize the impact on the local environment.

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The Bottom Line

The project construction cost is approximately $3.98 billion.
Raised By The Best

The bridge is being designed and built by Tappan Zee Constructors, LLC (TZC), a consortium of some of the world’s best-known and most highly-regarded design, engineering and construction firms, including Fluor, American Bridge, Granite, and Traylor Bros., along with key design firms HDR, Buckland & Taylor, URS, and GZA. TZC is working closely on the project with a team of employees from the New York State Thruway Authority and the State Department of Transportation.

I am sure Mother Russia has plenty of Stalinist Era bridges in need of repair also.  You just don't hear about those.  Big new projects are good Propaganda.  Fixing old stuff that is breaking down is not so good.  You also want the new project in some location that somebody can be taxed to pay for it.  NYS has the TBTF Banks.  Crimea has Ruski Military bases, and most significantly a large portion of their Navy.  They needed that bridge to roll tanks over and put on transport ships when the time comes.

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Re: Ukraine Civil War
« Reply #652 on: May 16, 2018, 07:52:55 PM »
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How much did Vlad spend for the Crimea Bridge?

2.5 billion dollars. It's 19 Km long and has 4 lanes + trains + electricity + water services.  They built it 6 months ahead of schedule.  Putin drove the first truck across.
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« Reply #653 on: May 16, 2018, 08:07:37 PM »
A rather nice time-lapse video.

https://www.rt.com/business/426875-russia-needs-no-us-permission/
We don't need your permission: Russia responds to US condemnation of Crimean Bridge
16 May, 2018

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hDbR-_tEmr4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/hDbR-_tEmr4</a>

Russia will not ask for anyone's permission to build infrastructure on its territory. This was the response to the US, which condemned the opening of the Kerch Strait bridge between Russia and Crimea.

The US State Department accused Russia of flouting international law by building a bridge to "occupied" Crimea without the permission of the government of Ukraine.

“As one could predict, Washington is not happy with that. But Crimea is Russia,” the Embassy of Russia in the USA said in the statement on Tuesday. “We shall not ask for anybody’s permission to build transport infrastructure for the sake of the population of Russian regions.”

On Tuesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin opened the 19-km long bridge connecting Crimea to Krasnodar Region six months ahead of schedule. The bridge is now open for car traffic. Trucks will be allowed later in the year, while the railway is scheduled to be completed in 2019.

The bridge is the longest in Europe. It begins on the Taman Peninsula, passes over a 5km dam and Tuzla Island, crosses the Kerch Strait and reaches the Crimean coast.

“This is an excellent result that has made Crimea and the legendary Sevastopol stronger and brought us closer,” Putin said at the opening ceremony. “The bridge will mean faster and greater progress for the economy of Crimea and Sevastopol, and will improve the quality of life here.”

The president has pledged to continue realizing such major infrastructure projects all across Russia. “When I say across the country, I mean it. We will build more roads, bridges, airports and ports. We will make our peoples’ lives better and more comfortable,” Putin said.

One of the next projects could be building a mega-bridge to Russia’s largest island Sakhalin, which remains the only Russian territory in the Far East with no mainland connection. Russia is yet to decide what is a better option – digging a tunnel or building a bridge to the island.
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« Reply #654 on: May 16, 2018, 08:23:30 PM »
A rather nice time-lapse video.

https://www.rt.com/business/426875-russia-needs-no-us-permission/
We don't need your permission: Russia responds to US condemnation of Crimean Bridge
16 May, 2018

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hDbR-_tEmr4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/hDbR-_tEmr4</a>

That's not even a Suspension Bridge! It's a fucking Truss Bridge!  ::)  What a loser in this contest.

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« Reply #655 on: May 16, 2018, 08:32:27 PM »
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Actually, NYS just finished adding a new ramp to the Verrazano Narrows Bridge to allow more Buses to use the HOV lanes.

Actually, that was a necessary correction because someone fucked up in the design stage.
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« Reply #656 on: May 16, 2018, 08:58:46 PM »
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Actually, NYS just finished adding a new ramp to the Verrazano Narrows Bridge to allow more Buses to use the HOV lanes.

Actually, that was a necessary correction because someone fucked up in the design stage.

You can't win 'em all.  Everybody has engineering fuck ups.  I will say I think the Ruskies have done a better job with their latest generation of Fighter Jets, at least going by the South Front propaganda.    They look more robust and less stupidly complex than the F-35s, and they come in somewhat cheaper.  Not sure how well they will work with the sky also crowded with Drones and Cruise Missiles, but at least on the Fighter Jet vs. Fighter Jet contest, I think the Ruskies are producing the better one.

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« Reply #657 on: May 17, 2018, 01:51:23 AM »
A rather nice time-lapse video.

https://www.rt.com/business/426875-russia-needs-no-us-permission/
We don't need your permission: Russia responds to US condemnation of Crimean Bridge
16 May, 2018

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hDbR-_tEmr4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/hDbR-_tEmr4</a>

That's not even a Suspension Bridge! It's a fucking Truss Bridge!  ::)  What a loser in this contest.

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So what?

At first glance, it's not unlike the Chesapeake Bay bridge in Maryland.



The CBB was 4.3 miles, and now has a parallel bridge. The Kerch Bridge is 11.2 mi and is the longest in both Russia and Europe. Not surprisingly,  the arch-conservative the Washington Examiner published an article with calls to blow up the Kerch Strait Bridge. Because terror is our most important product.
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« Reply #658 on: May 17, 2018, 02:12:53 AM »

So what?

At first glance, it's not unlike the Chesapeake Bay bridge in Maryland.




At first glance, it's not unlike the Chesapeake Bay bridge in Maryland.

If you are unfamiliar with bridge engineering, perhaps they look similar.  But not at all really.  One is a Suspension Bridge the other is a Truss Bridge.  Much harder to build a good supension bridges, although you can negotiate wider spans with them.

Whether put together by Ruskie or Amerikan or Chink Engineers (at least if done right), a good bridge is worth it's weight in Gold.  They are however expensive items to maintain.

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« Reply #659 on: June 05, 2018, 07:59:24 PM »
Putin proposes a solution to the Donbass problem.

https://www.rt.com/politics/428745-putin-special-status-donbass/
Putin proposes special status for Donbass republics within Ukraine
5 Jun, 2018

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that, in order to stop internal conflict in Ukraine, Kiev authorities could grant special status with broader powers to the republics of Donbass, just as Russia had done with Chechnya.

In an extensive interview to the Austrian TV channel ORF, the full transcript of which was published on the Kremlin web-site on Tuesday, Putin said that “Russia had to make a very complicated decision and grant the Chechen Republic and many other federation subjects such status that gave them a great degree of independence within the Russian Federation.”

“By the way, the same thing could be done in Ukraine in regards of the Donbass republics and I wonder, why have not they done it yet? Under such scenario there is no necessity to restrict the usage of ethnic minorities’ languages in Ukraine, I mean not only Russian but also Romanian, Hungarian and Polish. There is little talk about it in Europe but these are the today’s realities,” the Russian president said.

The armed conflict in the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine started in 2014 after a violent coup in Kiev brought to power the pro-Western government that almost immediately began to infringe the rights of Russian speakers and other ethnic minorities who live in these parts of the country. Paramilitary units and “volunteer battalions” manned by neo-Nazis had been sent to suppress protests but were met with armed resistance from local volunteers.

The conflict that has already claimed thousands of lives lingers to this day and residents of the South-Eastern Ukraine have announced the secession from the Ukrainian state and forming of the two independent republics – Donetsk and Lugansk.

In September 2017, Putin called for a UN peacekeeping mission to be sent to the war-torn eastern regions of Ukraine. The mission would have been deployed to the line of demarcation to protect the OSCE mission, which monitors the ceasefire. Moscow’s initiative was welcomed by German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel and Chancellor Angela Merkel, but the US and Ukrainian delegations refused to discuss it in the UN Security Council, bringing about a stalemate.

In mid-January this year the Ukrainian parliament passed the so-called ‘Law on the reintegration of Donbass’, which grants the president the right to use military force inside Ukraine without consent from lawmakers. The Russian Foreign Ministry commented on the law in a special statement, saying the move was further confirmation of Kiev’s intent to resolve the conflict by force.

In late May the issue was brought up at the open session of the United Nations’ Security Committee. Participants of the meeting agreed that the situation in Donbass was deteriorating and reiterated their proposals on bringing it back to normal, but so far none of these proposals have been approved.
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