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Re: Doomstead Diner Comic Strip
« Reply #405 on: April 28, 2014, 03:56:38 AM »
"Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world's grief. Do justly now, love mercy now, walk humbly now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it."

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« Reply #406 on: April 29, 2014, 03:56:44 AM »
Not a comic, but a piece of art I found after reading this article: http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,1249.msg48232/topicseen.html#msg48232

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« Reply #407 on: April 29, 2014, 09:17:32 AM »

Cornucopian's delight.
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« Reply #408 on: May 01, 2014, 05:26:46 AM »
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« Reply #409 on: May 02, 2014, 03:28:23 AM »
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« Reply #410 on: May 02, 2014, 10:26:20 AM »
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« Reply #411 on: May 03, 2014, 05:37:23 AM »
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« Reply #412 on: May 06, 2014, 09:08:55 AM »
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« Reply #413 on: May 07, 2014, 11:36:22 AM »
Energy Impacts -- Not just about carbon pollution, but about water use too.

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« Reply #414 on: May 07, 2014, 01:21:44 PM »
Im no expert on this, but I cant help thinking a critical distinction is being overlooked in that graph. Boiling water which will condense and fall to earth in power generation is not as bad as the colossal amount of water used in fracking the gas to get it even if the water is not used in burnng the gas to generate power. The fracking water full of chemicals allowed to be kept secret is then dumped and pollutes the place. Apples and oranges?
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« Reply #415 on: May 07, 2014, 08:47:22 PM »
No replies to my question, persona non grata

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« Reply #416 on: May 08, 2014, 01:29:54 AM »
Im no expert on this, but I cant help thinking a critical distinction is being overlooked in that graph. Boiling water which will condense and fall to earth in power generation is not as bad as the colossal amount of water used in fracking the gas to get it even if the water is not used in burnng the gas to generate power. The fracking water full of chemicals allowed to be kept secret is then dumped and pollutes the place. Apples and oranges?

I have seen similar statistics suggested in the past and it is my guess that the figures quoted above are for the gas production cycle only and do not include the water used for hydrolic fracturing. Another point to bear in mind is that all natural gas production produces some leakage of gases most notably methane. The methane leakage maybe a relatively small amount to total gas production at around 1-3% but bear in mind that methane has a warming effect that is 30 times more potent than CO2. This means it only takes a small amount of leaking gases to significantly alter the environment impact of this mode of energy production. It has also been stated that unconventional gas production from fracking has higher leaking rates than conventional gas meaning the supposed environmental benefits are likely overstated.

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« Reply #417 on: May 08, 2014, 03:23:43 AM »
Im no expert on this, but I cant help thinking a critical distinction is being overlooked in that graph. Boiling water which will condense and fall to earth in power generation is not as bad as the colossal amount of water used in fracking the gas to get it even if the water is not used in burnng the gas to generate power. The fracking water full of chemicals allowed to be kept secret is then dumped and pollutes the place. Apples and oranges?

Sure. The graphs is about power generation plants and water usage.

Apples and oranges, indeed.
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« Reply #418 on: May 11, 2014, 01:47:11 PM »
What actually happened.

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« Reply #419 on: May 17, 2014, 03:14:19 PM »
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