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Lexington & Concord Memorial Libertarian Thread
« on: May 14, 2014, 12:16:50 AM »
Mike Krieger of Libertyblitzkrieg went on a short rant WRT the Albequerque NM Gestapo.  Mike BTW now is housing Jimbo's TBP on his server.  Here is his latest on Rebellion in the FSoA:


Rebellion in the USA – Protesters Take Over Albuquerque City Council and Attempt to Arrest Police Chief
Posted on May 13, 2014   

There is something very, very wrong with the Albuquerque, New Mexico police department, and the citizens have just about had enough. Before I get into the heart of this story, I need to provide you with a little background. The Albuquerque Police Department (APD) is well known for its outrageous and inappropriate use of violence. So much so that it has been under investigation by the Department of Justice, which wrote a letter to the Mayor of Albuquerque on April 10, 2014 condemning the police force. Here’s an excerpt from the letter:

Based on our investigation, we have reasonable cause to believe that APD engages in a pattern or practice of use of excessive force, including deadly force, in violation of the Fourth Amendment and Section 14141. Our investigation included a comprehensive review of APD’s operations and the City’s oversight systems. We have determined that structural and systemic deficiencies—including insufficient oversight, inadequate training, and ineffective policies— contribute to the use of unreasonable force. At the conclusion of this letter, we outline the remedial measures that we believe are necessary to ensure that force is used in accordance with the Constitution. In some instances, these recommendations build on measures and initiatives that are already underway within the department.

Just prior to the release of the letter, APD officers shot in the back and killed a homeless man named James M. Boyd, who was camping in the Albuquerque foothills. More recently (and after the DOJ’s letter was sent), 50-year-old Air Force veteran Armand Martin was killed outside of his home by a SWAT team in a standoff with police. It seems the APD is incapable of solving any sort of dispute without a citizen ending up dead.

It makes you wonder what is up with law enforcement in New Mexico in general. If you recall, earlier this year I highlighted a horrific incident in Deming, New Mexico in my post: How a Routine Traffic Stop in New Mexico Turned into a Nightmare of Torture for David Eckert.

So back to Albuquerque. The people are rightfully very upset, which led to a city council meeting being taken over on May 5th by protesters. This display of civil disobedience even led to an attempt to serve Police Chief Gorden Eden with an citizen’s arrest warrant. As a result of the protest, the city council moved to prevent protests at their latest meeting, which may lead to free speech related lawsuits. You have to watch the following video:

People have just about had enough, and civil disobedience will only grow greater in the months and years ahead. This is what happens when a nation morphs into a deranged, oligarchic police state. This is also why the Bundy Ranch standoff was such a huge deal, as I noted in one of my most popular posts of 2014: Why the Standoff at the Bundy Ranch is a Very Big Deal.

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Indeed, people are upset, but since when did the Libertarians give a shit about homeless people?  Apparently, shooting them is not OK, but it is OK to let them starve?

I am anxiously awaiting Brandon "Lexington & Concord" Smith joining Mike and Jimbo in a new Libertarian Mega Site called Liberty Blitzkrieg Burning Platform of Alt-Markets.

On this new site, they will excoriate the People of Walmart and the Gestapo that is hired to shoot them.  They will excoriate Banksters while Lauding the Virtues of unrestricted Capitalism and Greed.  They will excoriate Boomers, while denying they are themselves Boomers.  They will excoriate Cops, then call the cops to protect their Private Property.  They wil be annoyed at Cops who shoot homeless people, until the cops shoot a homeless person camping out in their backyard!

Such is Libertarianism.  ::)

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Re: Lexington & Concord Memorial Libertarian Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 02:04:56 AM »
Mike Krieger of Libertyblitzkrieg went on a short rant WRT the Albequerque NM Gestapo.  Mike BTW now is housing Jimbo's TBP on his server.  Here is his latest on Rebellion in the FSoA:


Rebellion in the USA – Protesters Take Over Albuquerque City Council and Attempt to Arrest Police Chief
Posted on May 13, 2014   

There is something very, very wrong with the Albuquerque, New Mexico police department//
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Indeed, people are upset, but since when did the Libertarians give a shit about homeless people?  Apparently, shooting them is not OK, but it is OK to let them starve?

I am anxiously awaiting Brandon "Lexington & Concord" Smith joining Mike and Jimbo in a new Libertarian Mega Site called Liberty Blitzkrieg Burning Platform of Alt-Markets.

On this new site, they will excoriate the People of Walmart and the Gestapo that is hired to shoot them.  They will excoriate Banksters while Lauding the Virtues of unrestricted Capitalism and Greed.  They will excoriate Boomers, while denying they are themselves Boomers.  They will excoriate Cops, then call the cops to protect their Private Property.  They wil be annoyed at Cops who shoot homeless people, until the cops shoot a homeless person camping out in their backyard!

Such is Libertarianism.  ::)

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People have plenty of reason to be upset with the APD. But c'mon, using the homeless as an excuse? Rankest hypocrisy...

the homeless have LOST the great Cotton Mather life lottery. They are POOR, which is proof of insufficient virtue and innate sinfulness, at least in the eyes of every so-call "Christian" who believes in the Gospel of Prosperity, aka the state religion of the FSA. If one is well off, it's a Blessing, and proof of God's approval.

These are the people who turn my stomach.

May they all vacation here:

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 02:56:17 AM »
  In Somalia you can still say he, she, him, her since they dont have a Liberal president authorising whats happening to the homeless and this progressive progress...

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/05/12/ohio-college-considering-mandatory-transgender-sensitivity-training-for-athletics-department/[/url]

Im pretty sure Liberals consider their property private and call cops to protect it from theives and trespassers too.

But nice to see a crosscultural interacial relationship depicted for a change. More of that needed on TV.  :emthup:

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 06:07:02 AM »
  In Somalia you can still say he, she, him, her since they dont have a Liberal president authorising whats happening to the homeless and this progressive progress...

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/05/12/ohio-college-considering-mandatory-transgender-sensitivity-training-for-athletics-department/[/url]

Im pretty sure Liberals consider their property private and call cops to protect it from theives and trespassers too.

But nice to see a crosscultural interacial relationship depicted for a change. More of that needed on TV.  :emthup:

What does "liberal" mean in the ass end of the world?

If you can find a "liberal" president in the FSoA, please point him out, Doomer Sport. All I have seen is the 3rd and 4th terms of Dick Cheney, complete with full and complete amnesty for financial criminals.

Your constant antifeminist whine sounds like a guy who has never managed to get along with women.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 09:51:19 AM »
  In Somalia you can still say he, she, him, her since they dont have a Liberal president authorising whats happening to the homeless and this progressive progress...

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/05/12/ohio-college-considering-mandatory-transgender-sensitivity-training-for-athletics-department/[/url]

Im pretty sure Liberals consider their property private and call cops to protect it from theives and trespassers too.

But nice to see a crosscultural interacial relationship depicted for a change. More of that needed on TV.  :emthup:

What does "liberal" mean in the ass end of the world?

Conservative. But I meant liberalism as associated witn Democrat Party.

If you can find a "liberal" president in the FSoA, please point him out, Doomer Sport. All I have seen is the 3rd and 4th terms of Dick Cheney, complete with full and complete amnesty for financial criminals.

Your constant antifeminist whine sounds like a guy who has never managed to get along with women.


I doubt you want to ask our resident female, and you did call their agenda "abuses".

I relate easily to almost any woman who wont want to stop talking until Im about exhausted if indulge in exploring her emotional landscape. Like playing with children its fun for so long. Some rare gems have even been there for ME having a tough time.

I dont believe in married people having close friends of opposite sex because temptation trumps trust. Then again if you are still single and accept friend status from a woman you want, youre a eunuch.


I make every woman I encounter each day from about 18 to 80 smile and laugh with a little attention. They love to do anything they can for me, putting the shitter seat down themself if I suggest it with a smile. Feminsts have their itches scratched the least so swoon the most for a strong man. These queen bees secretly yearn for self posessed studs and are sick of sweet worker drone supplicants, its why theyre so angry.


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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2014, 01:53:36 PM »
What does "liberal" mean in the ass end of the world?

If you can find a "liberal" president in the FSoA, please point him out, Doomer Sport. All I have seen is the 3rd and 4th terms of Dick Cheney, complete with full and complete amnesty for financial criminals.

Your constant antifeminist whine sounds like a guy who has never managed to get along with women.

Personally Surly I think the term liberal is used too frequently in the US and this has created a great deal of confusion when debating because quite often people use the term liberal in multiple ways. You can talk about liberals in the political sense where they are basically the opposing side to conservatives, generally more left wing and believe in more recent cultural ideas/norms. Because of this the general belief is that a liberal is more open minded about change and is more accommodating to alternative lifestyles because they place less weight on religion than their counterparts.

On the other hand you can get the economic liberals who believe in less regulation, free markets and looser labour laws. In a way much of the current neoclassic economics that comes from Chicago is liberal and you can extend this further and say that many libertarians would subscribe to such ideals as they believe in a liberal economy. However as you can probably see many political liberals may oppose such views as they see such measures as being detrimental to the middle and working-class quality of life. A less liberal more socialistic economic environment requires more safeguards and regulations to avoid the worst excess from capitalism but to do such measures means you are not a liberal in the economic sense. This seeming contraction and possible hypocrisy can occur when people throw the term liberals without examining first what kind of liberal they are talking about. If you are careful with your terms such pitfalls can be avoided.

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 04:08:35 AM »
What does "liberal" mean in the ass end of the world?

If you can find a "liberal" president in the FSoA, please point him out, Doomer Sport. All I have seen is the 3rd and 4th terms of Dick Cheney, complete with full and complete amnesty for financial criminals.

Your constant antifeminist whine sounds like a guy who has never managed to get along with women.

Personally Surly I think the term liberal is used too frequently in the US and this has created a great deal of confusion when debating because quite often people use the term liberal in multiple ways. You can talk about liberals in the political sense where they are basically the opposing side to conservatives, generally more left wing and believe in more recent cultural ideas/norms. Because of this the general belief is that a liberal is more open minded about change and is more accommodating to alternative lifestyles because they place less weight on religion than their counterparts.

On the other hand you can get the economic liberals who believe in less regulation, free markets and looser labour laws. In a way much of the current neoclassic economics that comes from Chicago is liberal and you can extend this further and say that many libertarians would subscribe to such ideals as they believe in a liberal economy. However as you can probably see many political liberals may oppose such views as they see such measures as being detrimental to the middle and working-class quality of life. A less liberal more socialistic economic environment requires more safeguards and regulations to avoid the worst excess from capitalism but to do such measures means you are not a liberal in the economic sense. This seeming contraction and possible hypocrisy can occur when people throw the term liberals without examining first what kind of liberal they are talking about. If you are careful with your terms such pitfalls can be avoided.

Monsta, you make good points. I was referring more to the political sphere.

There is no meaningful left in the FSoA. The entirety of the "political debate" is wagged between the center-right and the extreme right. No genuinely left-wing voices are heard much, if at all, in this country on the MSM. When I was younger, I thought Richard Nixon was Satan made incarnate, the living embodiment of evil; from a remove of 40 years, I can see that as a practical matter, Nixon governed well to the left of Obama, the much hated and so-called Kenyan/ impostor/socialist/pretender.

We see the consequences of this in the clawback of gains made by working people in the 20th century; the privatization of the public, the demonization of the commons, the relentless attempts to turn a profit at public expense, since real growth (made possible by abundant and cheap energy) has stalled, and profitability has to come from somewhere, so let's loot the commons.

Voices that oppose such schemes are largely unheard, at a time when yahoos reign ascendant.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 07:17:38 AM »
Ive pasted some posts from forums that are typical of what happening now illustrating concepts to show that my ideas are based on whats going on out there. Im open to everyones ideas, as I think this is an important facet of a slowly collapsing industrial economy and would be better if it can be managed maturely. Opening reasoned discussion is the first step. 


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How do you stand up to people who whine
 Its only whining for men to complain of unfair treatment, they are meant to suffer silently or top themselves like most male victims
and moan about the male perspective being "disregarded" with the recent wave of feminism?
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Thanks. I just felt the need to ask because there seems to be a lot of volatility towards unwanted male opinions here lately. Didn't want to upset anyone or anything.

(That DOES sound whiny and emasculated. mate there is nothing to thank anyone for, feelings are not facts, no need to justify having an opinion or question and too bad if you upset anyone.)

As a guy, you're told ad nauseam that "feminism covers men's issues too" and how it's a movement for true equality and that it's all anyone seeking equality needs. Now, eventually you're going to come to a point where you realize men deal with a lot of issues women don't. Majority suicide victims, majority homicide victims, custody rights, stuff like that. But you've been told that feminism covers men's issues too. Perfect. So you try to bring some of them up in feminist spaces. After all, you've been told that they're there to help.
But you're not met with help, or discussion, or even respect. You're met with people mocking you because "WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ", and "you're derailing!" and "feminism isn't for you". Which frankly is pretty confusing because you've already had it drilled into your head that feminism is a true equality movement and that they're there to help both genders work towards being equal, not just advancing women. So you look for someone who will take you seriously and won't jump down your throat for bringing up your own hardships. At this point, you'd probably find a place like r/mensrights or something similar, which at first seems great. A place where you, as a guy, can talk about guy issues without being attacked for it. It certainly seems more welcome than the reaction you got from the feminists, at least.
But it doesn't end there. You've made a mistake. You've associated with the evil collective boogeyman known as the "MRAs". Now, regardless of your opinion of women, you're instantly labeled a misogynist. You're an MRA after all. "Why do you hate women?" is something you'll hear a lot, in complete sincerity. And let's not forget "MRAs don't even need to exist. Feminism covers men's issues anyway.", so now we've gone full circle. Feminism is for everyone, but it's not for you. Feminism will help you with your problems, but don't talk about them. So you can't win no matter what you do.
Sorry I got a little rambly. I just figured I'd throw my two cents in. I know a male perspective is probably the last thing you care about right now, but maybe it can help you understand a little. Who knows.

Stop apologising for nothing, you know what youre really apologising for, be proud of your penis.

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 On my phone at the moment, so I'm going to try to make this brief. We can't stop fighting. Every time I bring up anything remotely related to feminism, he acts like I'm attacking him and barely listens, then starts to "play devil's advocate" and spew out the most obvious shit

Yes it is obviously shit to any rational brain. This is why the writer here and no apologist for feminism ever adresses the facts.

that feminism has been fighting for decades. He won't read articles I save for him (and I pick really good introductory ones!), so the extent of his knowledge of feminism mostly relies on bullshit internet stereotypes. And I just gave what was pretty much a seriously impassioned speech about why feminism is serious to me and my frustration with it being a joke to him, and he had the fucking nerve to tell me I need to start taking it as a joke! No motherfucker,
 (The trying to act like men and liberate women to swear like sailors has made women like this unnatractive to self respecting men, part of the big scam on women and society sold short by the doctrine)

YOU need to start taking it seriously! This isn't about me bending my will to yours, (I dont read him saying that, but that biblical biological urge seems to be conflicting you, since you mention it)
 this is about opening yourself to a different facet of human experience and the rampant injustices that still exist today! I even have an analogy I've used on him multiple times - I'm white, so I'd never claim to know what it's like to be black. Likewise, he shouldn't assume he's right about a woman's experiences, because he isn't one. And he just throws it in my face that I "don't know what it's like to be a man." No shit, Sherlock,
( Guarantee this disrespectful attitude will get her dumped for a feminine female when hes finished)
but you're still the race and gender that society has been benefiting for centuries.

So anyway, I guess that was more of a rant. I just really need some perspective, because in the last few years feminism has really become an important thing in my life (for personal as well as societal reasons), and his defensive knee-jerk reactions, unwillingness to educate himself or listen, and inability to empathize are really starting to fucking wear on me. There is somebody out there, I know, who wouldn't hear me plead about how it's important to me because of my abuse and the fact that all my closest friends have been raped, and those who pressed charges were told, in one way or another, that it was their fault, and then tell me that I need to fucking lighten up.

In the western world the probability of forced penetration rape, real rape is very small. Its a huge dismissive of those true victims to now include everyone who has been whistled at or experienced any persuasion or consumed alcohol prior to consented sex, as per the new definition. The resentment of being labelled rapists and boys being labelled as 'needing to be taught not to rape' and that we have a 'rape culture' is likely to have a very bad backlash at some point.

Edit: by "introductory articles," I don't mean I'm giving him "homework." I stumble upon an article that's short and good for somebody who doesn't know about feminism and say, "Hey, I found this really good article, wanna read it?"

Tl;dr, pissed off feminist here, hawhaw

You dont haw haw if youre pissed off. Shes really bragging to the other feminists she is seeing a straight man and what a thrill it is to be stood up  to.

10 years ago he would have kept his opinions to himself and taken his resentment out on her ass. Without the writing on the wall due to shortfalls in state services being provided, it would be the same now and in 10 years from now. People are increasingly aware that this victim pose is a luxury of boom times that can not be sustained and are more and more speaking their objection. Women realising they are going to need men to do the things a strong economy and state services have taken over but can not continue are distancing themselves from the ideology. 


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I think you're values simply don't mesh - there are plenty of male feminists out there to date tho! Dont' worry

She knows that but they dont turn her on.

...

On one hand, even as a political science grad, grasroots organizer, former campaign employee, and hardcore feminist, I don't think I'd ever say to my bf, "hey, wanna read this!?" unless it was something super crazy awesome weird whatever--I mean, like a 5x in a lifetime thing.

I thought normal people often give interesting things to partners to read and then talk about.

Because that being said, I couldn't be with a man who didn't indicate from the get-go that he was a feminist. The first man I was ever in a relationship with insisted he, too, was a feminist and supported my bisexual monogamy,  (:icon_scratch:)
which turned out to be bullshit and thus the very quick demise of our relationship.\
Honestly, it sounds like you picked the wrong guy. And speaking FROM EXPERIENCE, YES, it is somewhat harder to find black men who are feminists than it is white men. But it is what it is, and I am happy to say that my current (black) boyfriend is very clearly a feminist...but he's also an atheist (woohoo!) and pro-gay rights (woohoo!) which are two even rarer things to find, speaking as someone who's been required through school, to examine political views, religious beliefs, and voting habits based on race.

Side note: speaking from lots and lots of slutty experience,
 :pile: Shes been programmed to believe men should be thankful for this rich experience which is why she is so proud to share it. Thye have been sold a lie and most men will then not take them seriously as anything except passtime sex objects

the more generous a man is in bed, the more likely he is to be a feminist. If dude doesn't enjoy being on his knees, I bet ya ten bucks he's not a feminist. Might be a helpful filter in the future...before you get to the point of asking your beaus to read (likely dry) news articles. ;)

This is the typical portrait of the type of woman I pity for being fucked up by feminism.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 09:03:20 AM »
David Deida has made some associations that put his work in a bad light with some people, but I find that I agree with most of what he has to say about the downside of feminism. I've read several of his books.

A couple of quotes:



“Every man knows that his highest purpose in life cannot be reduced to any particular relationship. If a man prioritizes his relationship over his highest purpose, he weakens himself, disserves the universe, and cheats his woman of an authentic man who can offer his full, undivided presence.”
― David Deida

“Your woman knows your weaknesses better than anybody. She knows where you will falter and give up. She knows the degree of mediocrity you will settle for. And, she knows your true capacity as a full man, a man of free consciousness and love. Her gift, if she is a good woman, is to test you with her darkest moods, over and over and over, until your consciousness is unperturbed by feminine challenge, and you are able to pervade her with your love, just as you are here to pervade the world. In response to your fearless consciousness, she will drench your world in love and light.”
― David Deida

"The most erotic moment for a woman is feeling that you are Shiva, the divine masculine: unperturbable, totally loving, fully present, and all-pervading. She cannot move you, because you already are what you are, with or without her. She cannot scare you away, because you already penetrate her in fearless love, pervading her heart and body. She cannot distract you, because your one-pointed commitment to truth will not bend to her wiles. Feeling this hugeness of love and freedom in you, she can trust you, utterly, and surrender her testing in celebration of love.

Until she wants to feel you as Shiva again. And then the testing will begin anew. In fact, it is precisely when you are most Shiva-like that she will most test you.”
― David Deida


IMHO the whole idea of equal rights, for women, or for that matter,for  any individual in any group that might have experienced unfairness and discrimination in Western culture, is a prime example of a first world, white people's issue, one that will rapidly lose all relevance as we ride the energy curve back down.

Even in BAU, we get confused around issues of fairness, like equal pay for equal work (which I support fully). Job equality does not mean that men and women are anything alike, or should be treated alike.

We've gotten off track completely because attempts at social justice for women have created a number of negative unforeseen consequences. Like the dissolution of the two parent family. Like women having to wear the pants in so many families...because the men have abandoned their responsibilities (for whatever reason, but I think the social welfare system and the judicial system are culpable to a large degree.)

Wearing the pants turns women into something they were never meant to be. (Manlike in behavior). Not wearing the pants makes men into androgynous wimps.

These people talking on the internet don't get this. But women are slaves to their intuition. That's why it's not uncommon for some so-called feminist woman to bail on her "sensitive New Age guy" and end up having an affair with some much more masculine man, often from a more primitive culture.

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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 01:00:21 PM »
These people talking on the internet don't get this. But women are slaves to their intuition. That's why it's not uncommon for some so-called feminist woman to bail on her "sensitive New Age guy" and end up having an affair with some much more masculine man, often from a more primitive culture.
LOL that phrase "sensitive New Age guy" reminded me of this group:

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 08:22:42 PM »
David Deida has made some associations that put his work in a bad light with some people, but I find that I agree with most of what he has to say about the downside of feminism. I've read several of his books.

A couple of quotes:



“Every man knows that his highest purpose in life cannot be reduced to any particular relationship. If a man prioritizes his relationship over his highest purpose, he weakens himself, disserves the universe, and cheats his woman of an authentic man who can offer his full, undivided presence.”
― David Deida

“Your woman knows your weaknesses better than anybody. She knows where you will falter and give up. She knows the degree of mediocrity you will settle for. And, she knows your true capacity as a full man, a man of free consciousness and love. Her gift, if she is a good woman, is to test you with her darkest moods, over and over and over, until your consciousness is unperturbed by feminine challenge, and you are able to pervade her with your love, just as you are here to pervade the world. In response to your fearless consciousness, she will drench your world in love and light.”
― David Deida

"The most erotic moment for a woman is feeling that you are Shiva, the divine masculine: unperturbable, totally loving, fully present, and all-pervading. She cannot move you, because you already are what you are, with or without her. She cannot scare you away, because you already penetrate her in fearless love, pervading her heart and body. She cannot distract you, because your one-pointed commitment to truth will not bend to her wiles. Feeling this hugeness of love and freedom in you, she can trust you, utterly, and surrender her testing in celebration of love.

Until she wants to feel you as Shiva again. And then the testing will begin anew. In fact, it is precisely when you are most Shiva-like that she will most test you.”
― David Deida


Several years ago I was in my grandfathers library and I picked up a mounted print of shiva that was not on the wall and asked if I could have it, yes. One day when I was clearing out old junk, I looked at it on the wall and thought; screw you man, you never helped me and tossed it in the trash pile. Only after this many years I get what that quote is saying, I already got it but that confirms it. You can neither give in to what you really dont agree with nor lose your cool about it. Sorry Shiva, no hard feelings.


IMHO the whole idea of equal rights, for women, or for that matter,for  any individual in any group that might have experienced unfairness and discrimination in Western culture, is a prime example of a first world, white people's issue, one that will rapidly lose all relevance as we ride the energy curve back down.

Even in BAU, we get confused around issues of fairness, like equal pay for equal work (which I support fully). Job equality does not mean that men and women are anything alike, or should be treated alike.

We've gotten off track completely because attempts at social justice for women have created a number of negative unforeseen consequences. Like the dissolution of the two parent family. Like women having to wear the pants in so many families...because the men have abandoned their responsibilities (for whatever reason, but I think the social welfare system and the judicial system are culpable to a large degree.)

Wearing the pants turns women into something they were never meant to be. (Manlike in behavior). Not wearing the pants makes men into androgynous wimps.

These people talking on the internet don't get this. But women are slaves to their intuition. That's why it's not uncommon for some so-called feminist woman to bail on her "sensitive New Age guy" and end up having an affair with some much more masculine man, often from a more primitive culture.

I agree with all that. before I worked in child welfare dept with almost all women of whom many were vocal feminists, I believed in the image of loyal and always innocent and virtuous women let down by philandering players sold to me as a child by bette middler, meryl streep and goldie hawn etc. We live and learn.
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Re: Lexington & Concord Memorial Libertarian Thread
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 08:38:01 PM »
These people talking on the internet don't get this. But women are slaves to their intuition. That's why it's not uncommon for some so-called feminist woman to bail on her "sensitive New Age guy" and end up having an affair with some much more masculine man, often from a more primitive culture.
LOL that phrase "sensitive New Age guy" reminded me of this group:

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/

I used to like saying I wasnt really a SNAG but more of a Caring Understanding Nineties Type, that link is quite a rabbit hole.
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