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In an interview with Breitbart, Donald Trump had a not-at-all-subtle message for his opponents. “I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump,” he claimed. “I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough—until they go to a certain point and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

Trump doesn’t make it clear who “they” are, or exactly what would have to happen before his collection of soldiers, officers, and bikers would be released to make things “very bad.” Not that details are required. Trump is making it clear he thinks he has the muscle on his side to get his way by brute force, no democracy required.

As the Toronto Star notes, this follows another statement Trump made in November in which he called protesters “weaklings” and added even more components to the mix of “tough guys” who were ready to smack down resisters. “You know, they’re tough guys, right. Where are the Bikers for Trump? Where are the police? Where are the military? Where are the ICE? Where are the Border Patrol? No. No. We’ve taken a lot. We’ve taken a lot, folks.”

These authoritarian calls to violence are just more of the same from a candidate who began by calling for violence against protesters at his rallies. And it’s far, far from certain that the military—which is far more wedded to the Constitution than Trump is—would obey an illegal order. Especially when Trump’s border “emergency” got its funds by taking away funding for homes, schools, and hospitals for military families.

In his testimony before Congress, Trump “fixer” Michael Cohen stated that he was concerned Trump wouldn’t leave the political stage even if he lost an election. Trump is certainly making that concern very easy to believe.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/14/1842129/-Trump-threatens-to-send-police-military-and-bikers-to-make-things-very-bad-for-his-opponents
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"A sleeping giant awakes" as carbon-rich permafrost starts to thaw.

Rapid and “devastating” Arctic warming is now almost unstoppable, United Nations researchers warn in a major new report.

Unless humanity makes very rapid and deep pollution cuts, Arctic winter temperatures will rise 5.4° to 9.0°F (3° to 5°C) by 2050 — and will reach an astounding 9° to 16°F (5° to 8.8°C) by 2080 — according to a report by the U.N. Environment Program released Wednesday.

Even worse, the report, “Global Linkages: A graphic look at the changing Arctic,” warns that warming will in turn awaken a “sleeping giant” in the form of vast quantities of permafrost carbon. This carbon has been frozen in the permafrost for up to thousands of years, but as the atmosphere warms, the permafrost will thaw. This will release the trapped carbon, and trigger more planet-wide warming in a dangerous feedback loop.

As the report explains, warming in the Arctic is occurring at least twice as fast as warming across the planet as a whole, thanks to Arctic amplification. One reason for this amplification is that  when highly reflective snow and ice melts due to higher temperatures, it is replaced by the dark blue sea or darker land, both of which absorb more solar energy than they reflect, leading to more melting.



“Arctic amplification is most pronounced in winter and strongest in areas with large losses of sea ice during the summer,” researchers explain, so winter warming in the region is projected to rise three times faster than the world as a whole.

But as this feedback loop plays out, it also triggers another one: the thawing of the Arctic permafrost and the release of the carbon that it contains.

Thawing permafrost is an especially dangerous amplifying feedback loop because the global permafrost contains twice as much carbon as the atmosphere does today . The permafrost, or tundra, is soil that stays below freezing (32°F or 0°C) for at least two years. It acts like a freezer for carbon, but now humanity has decided to leave the freezer door open.

The thawing releases not only carbon dioxide but also methane — a far more potent greenhouse gas — thereby further warming the planet. And as the planet continues to warm, more permafrost will melt, releasing even more greenhouse gases in a continuous feedback loop.

“New evidence suggests that permafrost is thawing much faster than previously thought,” the report warns. Indeed, a recent study found that Siberian permafrost at depths of up to 30 feet warmed a remarkable 1.6°F (0.9°C) from 2007 to 2016.

The U.N. report quotes the saying: “What happens in the Arctic does not stay in the Arctic.”

For instance, the Arctic’s rapid warming is weakening the jet stream, which leads weather patterns to stall, and that drives more extreme weather in this country, such as heavy precipitation on the East Coast and extreme drought on the West Coast.

And the quicker the Arctic heats up, the quicker the land-based Greenland ice sheet melts and the quicker sea levels rise. One 2017 study concluded that Greenland ice mass loss has tripled in just two decades.

But the authors of the U.N. report explain that simply meeting the initial emissions reduction targets in the 2015 Paris Climate Accord will not be enough to stop “devastating” warming and the loss of nearly half the permafrost this century. Those initial targets would not limit total warming to 2°C (3.6°F), which is why the agreement calls for ratcheting down those targets over time in order to keep warming “well below 2°C.”

So, to avoid accelerated warming, massive permafrost loss, ever-worsening extreme weather, and multi-feet sea level rise, the nations of the world must not only make deep cuts in CO2 emissions over the next decade, but also they must then keep ratcheting down global emissions to near zero around mid-century.

Yet, President Donald Trump is taking the country in the dangerously wrong direction by starting the process of withdrawing from the Paris agreement and rolling back domestic climate efforts.

What humanity needs to avert catastrophe are the kind of rapid emissions reductions envisioned in the Green New Deal, which aims for a carbon-free power sector by 2030 and the decarbonization of all other sectors as fast as technically possible.   

https://thinkprogress.org/devastating-arctic-warming-locked-in-warns-un-48e55348514b/
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« Reply #12107 on: March 15, 2019, 03:43:28 AM »
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New Zealand has a reputation—unmatched beauty, adventurous, filled with eclectic animals, people concerned about the environment, and lots of sheep—but despite its being on the far side of the world from the hotbeds of white nationalism, events on Friday morning showed that no nation is safe from the destructive power of murderous white radicals.

At least 49 people have died in an attack on two mosques in the city of Christchurch. Dozens more were wounded or otherwise injured. And there’s absolutely no doubt about the cause of this sickening event. Because one of the killers livestreamed it to Facebook, while delivering a white-power manifesto about his hatred for “invaders.” This does not appear to be the act of a “lone gunman,” but a coordinated, planned slaughter staged to catch worshipers at their morning prayers. In addition to the alleged gunman, police have detained at least two others, and reports indicate that one of them was found with a number of explosive devices. Even the awful total so far may not have been close to what was intended in this racist attack.

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders has issued an official response, saying, “The United States strongly condemns the attack in Christchurch.” And, of course, she provided New Zealanders with the same assistance that has so often been extended to American victims in similar mass-murders: “Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.” What’s not in Sander’s statement is any hint about why this happened. Nothing about the hate for Muslims that she, her party, and especially her boss have carefully nurtured. Nothing about the global spread of white nationalism that has seen a rise of hate crimes across America and Europe.

This morning, Donald Trump finally followed up with a tweet providing “My warmest sympathy and best wishes,” because apparently someone told him not to say thoughts and prayers. But what was the tweet that Trump delivered just before that one? While the shooting was underway, Trump was tweeting out a link to the nationalist outlet Breitbart. Before that was a tweet about how he was looking forward to vetoing the repeal of his emergency declaration so he could stop “Crime, Drugs, and Trafficking” from flowing into the United States. In other words … keep out the invaders.

Which is no coincidence. As part of his rant, the livestreaming shooter called Donald Trump a “symbol of white identity and common purpose."

In a manifesto posted to social media (deliberately not linked), the New Zealand shooter frames his motivations around “replacement”—the same term invoked by the Nazi marchers at Charlottesville that Trump described as “good people.” The shooter went on to call immigration “white genocide.”

Despite the location of the shooting, the United States is at the center of the manifesto. The shooter spends a great deal of his 74 pages talking about “threats to the electoral college” and his desire to “end the melting pot” by “balkanizing” the United States “along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.” In his rant, he repeats phrases and themes from both Trump and American white nationalists, focusing on the Second Amendment as a primary divide in American culture. The shooter also throws out other familiar right-wing phrases, from his concern that  “taxation is theft” to his discussion of “demographic change” in Texas that will lead whites to start a civil war.

There is also a section on how to deal with immigration that seems to come from the Trump playbook: “Few parents, regardless of circumstance, will [be] willing to risk the lives of their children, no matter the economic incentives. Therefore, once we show them the risk of bringing their offspring to our soil, they will avoid our lands.” One whole section of the manifesto is titled “Diversity is weakness.”

The theme of dividing the U.S. along racial lines reoccurs repeatedly in the manifesto. The shooter states that he deliberately chose to use firearms rather than bombs specifically to create more anger over gun violence in hopes of spurring the fight over the Second Amendment and driving a wedge through America.

As the BBC reports, the entire nation of New Zealand is on heightened alert, and across Europe nations are sending extra security to protect mosques.

The shooting itself seemed to go on for at least 10 to 15 minutes of nearly continuous gunfire. It’s currently unclear what kind of weapon or weapons were involved. As of Friday afternoon in Christchurch, the death toll included 41 worshipers at the Al Noor Mosque, and eight at the Linwood Mosque several miles to the east. Another victim died in hospital. Police had released one of those they had questioned, but were investigating a property at a rural location about 200 miles south of Christchurch.

Responses around the world have mostly reflected horror and anger … but not always aimed where you might expect. In Australia, white nationalist Senator Fraser Anning did not blame the attack on the shooters, but said the "real cause of bloodshed" is immigration policy that "allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place." As the New York Times reported last August, Anning has called for a “final solution” to Muslims. He also called for changes to immigration laws to reflect “historic European-Christian composition” and “values as a people.”

It’s not just Trump inspiring these attacks. But that doesn’t mean it’s not Trump.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/15/1842332/-New-Zealand-shooter-called-Donald-Trump-a-symbol-of-white-identity-as-he-murdered-49-people
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« Reply #12109 on: March 15, 2019, 09:03:40 AM »
New Zealand has a reputation—unmatched beauty, adventurous, filled with eclectic animals, people concerned about the environment, and lots of sheep—but despite its being on the far side of the world from the hotbeds of white nationalism, events on Friday morning showed that no nation is safe from the destructive power of murderous white radicals.

At least 49 people have died in an attack on two mosques in the city of Christchurch. Dozens more were wounded or otherwise injured. And there’s absolutely no doubt about the cause of this sickening event. Because one of the killers livestreamed it to Facebook, while delivering a white-power manifesto about his hatred for “invaders.” This does not appear to be the act of a “lone gunman,” but a coordinated, planned slaughter staged to catch worshipers at their morning prayers. In addition to the alleged gunman, police have detained at least two others, and reports indicate that one of them was found with a number of explosive devices. Even the awful total so far may not have been close to what was intended in this racist attack.

White House 🦀 press secretary Sarah Sanders 🐲 has issued an official response, saying, “The United States strongly condemns the attack in Christchurch.” And, of course, she provided New Zealanders with the same assistance that has so often been extended to American victims in similar mass-murders: “Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.” What’s not in Sander’s statement is any hint about why this happened. Nothing about the hate for Muslims that she, her party, and especially her boss have carefully nurtured. Nothing about the global spread of white nationalism that has seen a rise of hate crimes across America and Europe.

This morning, Donald Trump finally followed up with a tweet providing “My warmest sympathy and best wishes,” because apparently someone told him not to say thoughts and prayers. But what was the tweet that Trump delivered just before that one? While the shooting was underway, Trump was tweeting out a link to the nationalist outlet Breitbart. Before that was a tweet about how he was looking forward to vetoing the repeal of his emergency declaration so he could stop “Crime, Drugs, and Trafficking” from flowing into the United States. In other words … keep out the invaders.

Which is no coincidence. As part of his rant, the livestreaming shooter called Donald Trump a “symbol of white identity and common purpose."

In a manifesto posted to social media (deliberately not linked), the New Zealand shooter frames his motivations around “replacement”—the same term invoked by the Nazi marchers at Charlottesville that Trump described as “good people.” The shooter went on to call immigration “white genocide.”

Despite the location of the shooting, the United States is at the center of the manifesto. The shooter spends a great deal of his 74 pages talking about “threats to the electoral college” and his desire to “end the melting pot” by “balkanizing” the United States “along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.” In his rant, he repeats phrases and themes from both Trump and American white nationalists, focusing on the Second Amendment as a primary divide in American culture. The shooter also throws out other familiar right-wing phrases, from his concern that  “taxation is theft” to his discussion of “demographic change” in Texas that will lead whites to start a civil war.

There is also a section on how to deal with immigration that seems to come from the Trump playbook: “Few parents, regardless of circumstance, will [be] willing to risk the lives of their children, no matter the economic incentives. Therefore, once we show them the risk of bringing their offspring to our soil, they will avoid our lands.” One whole section of the manifesto is titled “Diversity is weakness.”

The theme of dividing the U.S. along racial lines reoccurs repeatedly in the manifesto. The shooter states that he deliberately chose to use firearms rather than bombs specifically to create more anger over gun violence in hopes of spurring the fight over the Second Amendment and driving a wedge through America.

As the BBC reports, the entire nation of New Zealand is on heightened alert, and across Europe nations are sending extra security to protect mosques.

The shooting itself seemed to go on for at least 10 to 15 minutes of nearly continuous gunfire. It’s currently unclear what kind of weapon or weapons were involved. As of Friday afternoon in Christchurch, the death toll included 41 worshipers at the Al Noor Mosque, and eight at the Linwood Mosque several miles to the east. Another victim died in hospital. Police had released one of those they had questioned, but were investigating a property at a rural location about 200 miles south of Christchurch.

Responses around the world have mostly reflected horror and anger … but not always aimed where you might expect. In Australia, white nationalist Senator Fraser Anning did not blame the attack on the shooters, but said the "real cause of bloodshed" is immigration policy that "allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place." As the New York Times reported last August, Anning has called for a “final solution” to Muslims. He also called for changes to immigration laws to reflect “historic European-Christian composition” and “values as a people.”

It’s not just Trump inspiring these attacks. But that doesn’t mean it’s not Trump.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/15/1842332/-New-Zealand-shooter-called-Donald-Trump-a-symbol-of-white-identity-as-he-murdered-49-people

EVERY REPUBLICAN and EVERY PERSON ON THIS FORUM WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP SHARES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS DESPICABLE ACT OF MASS MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE!

All you white RACISTS who smile inwardly at all these monstrous acts, as your ancestors did when African Americans were LYNCHED publicly, while your wives and children all watched with joy, WILL NOT ESCAPE RETRIBUTION. Laugh, party and enjoy this embrace of PURE EVIL while you can. EVIL will destroy you too.
 









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New Zealand massacre: Journalists divided on how to cover hate
« Reply #12110 on: March 15, 2019, 12:47:02 PM »
This latest tragedy has occasioned a crisis of sorts in journalism about how to cover it. I follow Columbia Journalism review, a media watchdog, and they have a story that illustrates the tensions.

https://www.cjr.org/the_new_gatekeepers/new-zealand-shooting-christchurch.php

Reporters wait as police officers cordon off the area in Christchurch, New Zealand on March 15, 2019. (Photo by Diederik van Heyningen/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)

New Zealand massacre: Journalists divided on how to cover hate


MASS SHOOTINGS HAVE A WAY of making the theoretical talk about Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube and their role inspreading hate all too real. Thursday brought yet another horrific example of this depressingly frequent phenomenon, when a white supremacist shot and killed 49 people in a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand. The killer took things to a new and even more disturbing level by live-streaming the entire thing on Facebook Live, part of what appeared to be a co-ordinated media strategy involving multiple posts of his rambling, 74-page screed and video clips to social platforms like 8chan, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. As quickly as the videos were pulled down by the platforms (which wasn’t very quickly in many cases), new copies were posted and shared, in a terrible game of deplatforming Whack-A-Mole.

As the video copies and links to his writing continued to spread, journalists and experts in misinformation and online behavior debated a key question in these incidents: how much should journalists write about the details of the killings, and, in particular, about the killer’s delusional ideology?

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The shooter posted that manifesto precisely for you to share, condemn, analyse, and mock it. Don’t link to it, don’t screengrabs it, don’t précis it, don’t do a long thinkpiece on what it means it was tied to 8chan.

The acts and their victims say far, far more than enough.

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There are two very distinct parts of my feed this morning. One from researchers and some journalists saying do not spread material from the NZ attack, it serves as recruitment . The other saying a level of context is required and reporters need to do their job 1/

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From archives:Reporters shouldn’t profile mass shooters, say experts

Almost everyone agreed that posting the actual video of the killings was beyond the pale (The Mirror in Britain included edited footage from the video and later apologized, but the Daily Mail had a video clip that auto-played on its site). Whether to report on the killer’s writing about his deed was another matter. Sociologists who study the way information spreads onlineincluding Joan Donovan of Harvard’s Shorenstein Center and Whitney Phillips, who wrote a report for Data & Society last year titled, “The Oxygen of Amplification”—advised journalists not to quote from the killer’s writing.

Joan Donovan, PhD@BostonJoan

We wrote up a short thread for reporters.

Violence is being used to cause attention to these ideas. Don’t share or decode the manifesto.

Pressure Facebook to be accountable for allowing islamophobic and murderous content.

The platform is the story.

Whitney Phillips@wphillips49

Here is what @BostonJoan and I recommend for reporters looking to cover this story responsibly: To the question facing many journalists--"how do i write about this without citing it"--is, simply put, that you don't.

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The argument made by these and other experts is that the shooter’s essay appears to have been deliberately written to generate as much publicity as possible for his racist beliefs, including by mentioning of internet celebrities (such as YouTube creator Felix Kjellberg, known as PewDiePie) and alt-right figures such as Candace Owens of Turning Point USA. The risk in publishing these kinds of things, Donovan and others argue, is similar to the risk in publicizing suicidesthe details of the killer’s motivation may steer others toward acting on extreme beliefs, especially if they think they will receive the same kind of public attention. Just as the Parkland, Fla. shooter mentioned the Sandy Hook killer, the Christchurch shooter also referenced other killings driven by white supremacist views, including a 2011 massacre in Norway by Anders Breivik.

Becca Lewis@beccalew

remembering how almost no one knew what an "incel" was until the media included the term in its toronto van attack coverage. then any disillusioned young man could start googling his way down a rabbit hole just by using that search term

Whitney Phillips@wphillips49

Here is what @BostonJoan and I recommend for reporters looking to cover this story responsibly: To the question facing many journalists--"how do i write about this without citing it"--is, simply put, that you don't.

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As Charlie Warzel noted in a New York Times piece, this latest shooting seems like an entirely too predictable outgrowth of a social-media powered world in which seemingly harmless threads on 4chan and 8chan and Reddit can spread instantaneously and metastasize, via YouTube and Facebook, to the point where they affect gullible and disturbed people. The platforms all say that they want to do something about this kind of content, but in almost every case they are left scrambling after the fact, sometimes for hours, to clean up the videos and links. Despite renewed pressure from governmentsincluding laws against hate speech in countries like Germany and Francethey seem almost completely unprepared and ineffective.

The spread of hate obviously needs to be reported onthe ways in which misinformation leading to hate can be shared and become viral,the pathways that take these kinds of views from the dark corners of the internet and redistribute them, the actors and news outlets that profit from doing so. But how do we do this without giving them more oxygen and publicity? There are some easy steps,including not writing celebrity-style profiles of the shooters involved in these kinds of killings. But how much should we go into the details about specific incidents? That’s not an easy question to answer. Some journalists argue, as media outlets did in Norway after the Breivik shootings, that we have a duty to show the public that such views exist.

Chris Anderson, a professor at the University of Leeds,took issue on Twitter with the advice not to report any of the man’s writings or ideology. “To advance a blanket point of view about reporting and contextualizing these currents is misguided,” he said. It’s a fair point: how can we defuse or even identify and be aware of this kind of radicalization and the links to different communities if we don’t report on them? It’s not as simple as just declining to mention the specific method someone chose to use when they died by suicide. If we don’t look at the details of things like the Christchurch killer’s essay, how can we help peopleincluding the mediaunderstand where these kinds of killers come from and how they move from harmless Reddit threads to shooting Muslims in a mosque?

It’s a problem that’s particular to the 21st centuryinformation is everywhere instantaneously, and the media no longer has the kind of gatekeeper role it used to have. At the same time, the press has a clear responsibility not to pour gasoline on a roaring internet blaze of racism that seems to be sweeping the globe. Finding a route between those two things is no simple task, but it is something that becomes more and more important every day.

Mathew Ingram is CJR's chief digital writer. Previously, he was a senior writer withFortunemagazine. He has written about the intersection between media and technology since the earliest days of the commercial internet. His writing has been published inThe Washington Postand theFinancial Timesas well as Reuters and Bloomberg.
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We are among the young people striking against climate change in every corner of the globe – adults should join us too



It started in front of the Swedish parliament, on 20 August – a regular school day. Greta Thunberg sat with her painted sign and some homemade flyers. This was the first school climate strike. Fridays wouldn’t be regular schooldays any longer. The rest of us, and many more alongside us, picked it up in Australia, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, New Zealand, Uganda. Today the climate strike will take place all around the world.

This movement had to happen, we didn’t have a choice. We knew there was a climate crisis. Not just because forests in Sweden or in the US had been on fire; because of alternating floods and drought in Germany and Australia; because of the collapse of alpine faces due to melting permafrost and other climate changes. We knew, because everything we read and watched screamed out to us that something was very wrong.

That first day of refusing to go to school was spent alone, but since then a movement of climate strikers has swept the globe. Today young people in more than 100 countries will walk out of class to demand action on the greatest threat humankind has ever faced.

These strikes are happening today – from Washington DC to Moscow, Tromsø to Invercargill, Beirut to Jerusalem, and Shanghai to Mumbai – because politicians have failed us. We’ve seen years of negotiations, pathetic deals on climate change, fossil fuel companies being given free rein to carve open our lands, drill beneath our soils and burn away our futures for their profit. We’ve seen fracking, deep sea drilling and coalmining continue. Politicians have known the truth about climate change and they’ve willingly handed over our future to profiteers whose search for quick cash threatens our very existence.

This movement had to happen, we didn’t have a choice. Last year’s UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s special report on global warming could not have been clearer about the extreme dangers of going beyond 1.5C of global warming. To have any chance of avoiding that extreme danger emissions must drop rapidly – so that by the time we will be in our mid- and late-20s we are living in a transformed world.

The students who are striking in cities, towns and villages around the world are uniting behind the science. We are only asking that our leaders to do the same.

If those in power today don’t act, it will be our generation who will live through their failure. Those who are under 20 now could be around to see 2080, and face the prospect of a world that has warmed by up to 4C. The effects of such warming would be utterly devastating. Rivers would flood, storms would wreak havoc on coastal communities and coral reefs would be eliminated. Melting polar ice caps would lead to dramatically higher sea levels, flooding coastal areas. Places on Earth will become uninhabitable.

Scientists have also shown us that burning fossil fuels is “the world’s most significant threat to children’s health”. Nine out of every 10 children around the world are breathing dangerous air. Our lives are being compromised before we are born. Toxic particles from exhaust fumes pass through the lungs of pregnant women and accumulate in the placenta. The risk of premature birth, low birth weight and cognitive dysfunction this causes is a public health catastrophe. Pollution from diesel vehicles is stunting the growth of our lungs, leaving us damaged for life. Toxic air from burning fossil fuels is choking not only our lungs but our hopes and dreams.

And the worst effects of climate change are disproportionately felt by our most vulnerable communities. This is not just about cutting down emissions, but about equity – the system we have right now is failing us, working only for the rich few. The luxury so few of us enjoy in the global north is based on the suffering of people in the global south.

We have watched as politicians fumble, playing a political game rather than facing the facts that the solutions we need cannot be found within the current system. They don’t want to face the facts – we need to change the system if we are to try to act on the climate crisis.

This movement had to happen, we didn’t have a choice. The vast majority of climate strikers taking action today aren’t allowed to vote. Imagine for a second what that feels like. Despite watching the climate crisis unfold, despite knowing the facts, we aren’t allowed to have a say in who makes the decisions about climate change. And then ask yourself this: wouldn’t you go on strike too, if you thought doing so could help protect your own future?

So today we walk out of school, we quit our college lessons, and we take to the streets to say enough is enough. Some adults say we shouldn’t be walking out of classes – that we should be “getting an education”. We think organising against an existential threat – and figuring out how to make our voices heard – is teaching us some important lessons.

Other adults keep saying: “We owe it to the young people to give them hope.” But we don’t want your hope. We don’t want you to be hopeful. We want you to panic and we want you to take action. We want you to join us.

We’ve relied on adults to make the right decisions to ensure that there is a future for the next generation – surely we don’t have all the answers. But what we do know is that we need to keep fossil fuels in the ground, phase out subsidies for dirty energy production, seriously invest in renewables and start asking difficult questions about how we structure our economies and who is set to win and who is set to lose.

And we are no longer alone. Tens of thousands of scientists from around the world have released statements in support of the strikes by children. The scientists have been very clear about what we need to do to tackle climate change. We are uniting behind the scientists. We are only asking that our leaders do the same.

It is so important that this happens now. The kind of changes that need to happen mean everyone recognising that this is a crisis and committing to radical transformations. We strongly believe that we can fight off the most damaging effects of climate change – but we have to act now.

There is no grey area when it comes to survival. There’s no less bad option. That’s why young people are striking in every corner of the globe, and it’s why we are asking that older people join us on the streets too. When our house is burning we cannot just leave it to the children to pour water on the flames – we need the grownups to take responsibility for sparking the blaze in the first place. So for once, we’re asking grownups to follow our lead: we can’t wait any longer.

This movement had to happen. And now, you adults have a choice.

• Greta Thunberg is a youth climate strike leader in Sweden, Anna Taylor in the UK, Luisa Neubauer in Germany, Kyra Gantois, Anuna De Wever and Adélaïde Charlier in Belgium, Holly Gillibrand in Scotland, and Alexandria Villasenor in USA

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Have to to go to the site to watch the video...

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Climate strike: Why are students striking and will it have an impact?
« Reply #12113 on: March 16, 2019, 04:49:49 AM »
Are the UK's school strikes for climate change the moment that British youth finally wakes up to the "climate emergency"?

It may not represent a paradigm shift just yet, but the speed and scale of this young person's movement does make it feel more than a momentary splutter of impotent anger.

Ever since the then 15-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg decided to stop going to school on Fridays last year and instead protest outside the Swedish parliament, there has been a rapid expansion in similar activities in many parts of the world, especially in Europe.

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Tens of thousands of schoolchildren in Belgium, Germany and other locations have cut classes and taken to the streets to call on governments to take urgent action on climate change.

Now young people in the UK are due to join them, determined to affect change on the issue that they feel is most germane to their future - the impacts of rapidly rising temperatures on an ever more crowded planet.

Greta's memorable phrase that we "cannot solve the crisis without treating it as a crisis", reflects the thinking of many, frustrated with the slow pace of progress.

That sense of crisis has been affected by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report on the impacts of global temperature reaching 1.5C, released last October.

"We are doing this because we feel that climate action really needs to happen after the IPCC report," said Lottie, 17, who says she will join a school protest in London.

Speaking to the BBC, she said: "We've been told we have to take serious action and have just 12 years to cut our carbon emissions in half. As the young people who are going to be most affected by the fact that no-one is taking any action on climate change - this is our entire future.

"We can't vote yet and this is one of the most effective ways of making our voices heard."

Last year also brought a wide range of impacts including heatwaves and forest fires that scientists say were made worse by climate change.

All the while, the emissions that are driving up temperatures continue to go up, not down.

In the face of this continuing catalogue, the actions taken by governments seem rather limited, much to the frustration of scientists and campaigners.

Students contrast the slow pace of tackling climate change with the fact they have managed to get a movement going to organise a UK-wide strike in only four weeks.
What are the students hoping to achieve by striking?

According to the UK Student Climate Network, there are four key demands.

They want the government "to declare a climate emergency", and inform the public about the seriousness of the situation.


Protests in Belgium have made climate change a key issue for all political parties

They also want the national curriculum reformed to include "the ecological crisis as an educational priority".

To fully include young people in decision-making, especially about issues related to climate change, they are calling on the government to lower the age of voting to 16.

These goals are being supported by a group of around 200 UK academics, who have written to a national newspaper to say they stand in solidarity with the strikers.

"With the dilution of citizenship education in recent years, this is an important opportunity for schools, colleges and universities to support active citizenship and political engagement," said Molly Scott Cato, the Green Party MEP who signed the letter, who is also a professor of green economics, at the University of Roehampton.

"Far from being disengaged, these strikes demonstrate that many young people do care passionately about our planet and the welfare of our neighbours across the world. Our politicians should pay attention and deliver policies that will safeguard future generations."
So will it have an impact?

Young people were far, far more visible at last December's key UN climate meeting in Katowice, Poland. Their energy and demands for speedy action marked a significant change from previous events.

Similarly in the US, we are seeing demands from young people for political action on climate change, forcefully represented by Democratic congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She is the driving force behind the Green New Deal, a radical climate plan that would see the US decarbonise in only 10 years.

In Europe the school strikers are also making a powerful impression.

"They have put the climate issue on the public agenda," said Conner Rousseau, a spokesperson for the Flemish Socialist party in Belgium.

"They've forced all of the Belgian political parties to take a stand on the climate issue. We have elections in May, it will be one of the main themes."

Observers believe the same thing can happen in the UK.

"If the government is serious about winning over the next generation of voters, then they need to heed their most pressing concerns," said Richard Baker, from Christian Aid.

"But more importantly they are sparking a national debate, they are forcing teachers, parents and politicians to re-evaluate the issue of climate breakdown and, what is most important, while lifting our gaze beyond just immediate short-term national concerns."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47242477
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« Reply #12114 on: March 16, 2019, 07:29:37 AM »
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...will it have an impact ?

Nothing beyond putting somewhat further upfront the issue.
But since that kind of thing is always phony and contrived as fuck, it will most probably trigger as much of a counter-reaction as the strike itself when it's realized that most people haven't a clue as to what it all entails.

And by the way, that ex-Greenpeace exec who criticized AOC for being "...an ignorant twit pretending to be wise" was unfortunately spot on.

I've nothing but contempt for cheap manipulations. Even if done with good intent. Yes, the populace is overwhelmingly composed of ignorant sheep, it doesn't mean that you could dispense with proper explanation of your cause; and that sure as shit hasn't been done yet.
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« Reply #12115 on: March 16, 2019, 07:52:21 AM »
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...will it have an impact ?

Nothing beyond putting somewhat further upfront the issue.
But since that kind of thing is always phony and contrived as fuck, it will most probably trigger as much of a counter-reaction as the strike itself when it's realized that most people haven't a clue as to what it all entails.

And by the way, that ex-Greenpeace exec who criticized AOC for being "...an ignorant twit pretending to be wise" was unfortunately spot on.

I've nothing but contempt for cheap manipulations. Even if done with good intent. Yes, the populace is overwhelmingly composed of ignorant sheep, it doesn't mean that you could dispense with proper explanation of your cause; and that sure as shit hasn't been done yet.

What do you mean by that statement?
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« Reply #12116 on: March 16, 2019, 08:01:31 AM »
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...will it have an impact ?

Nothing beyond putting somewhat further upfront the issue.
But since that kind of thing is always phony and contrived as fuck, it will most probably trigger as much of a counter-reaction as the strike itself when it's realized that most people haven't a clue as to what it all entails.

Are you asserting that the "student strike" is a contrivance? Right. Much better to suck off the centurions of the status quo. Let's never do anything, but clutch pearls and wring hands.

And by the way, that ex-Greenpeace exec who criticized AOC for being "...an ignorant twit pretending to be wise" was unfortunately spot on.

I've nothing but contempt for cheap manipulations. Even if done with good intent. Yes, the populace is overwhelmingly composed of ignorant sheep, it doesn't mean that you could dispense with proper explanation of your cause; and that sure as shit hasn't been done yet.

Disagree with AOC and her positions all you want, but Ocasio-Cortez majored in international relations and economics at Boston University, graduating cum laude in 2011. Characterizations like "twit" betray an agenda. So far, the right wing fail boys who have attempted to malign AOC haven't laid a glove on her.

I've nothing but contempt for cheapjack, reflexive criticism of progressive ideas and advocates. I wonder what "explanation of the cause" of anthropogenic climate change" could be made to your satisfaction?
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« Reply #12117 on: March 16, 2019, 08:30:25 AM »
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What do you mean by that statement?

The Greta Thunberg thing...
Kids that young are being used.

Same goes for the grade school kid strike.

If the stakes are so high, ... stop with the gimmicks; that's all I'm saying.
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« Reply #12118 on: March 16, 2019, 08:40:28 AM »
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What do you mean by that statement?

The Greta Thunberg thing...
Kids that young are being used.

Same goes for the grade school kid strike.

If the stakes are so high, ... stop with the gimmicks; that's all I'm saying.

Do you have any data or first hand knowledge of the kids being used? I ask because I AM very interested in the impact these climate strikes are going to have on the political 2020 Presidential race.

Well, without using jets, tanks, and then the infantry...how else is the public supposed to get to a government that will not change it's policies about the need for immediate action on global warming?
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« Reply #12119 on: March 16, 2019, 09:09:57 AM »
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Much better to suck off the centurions of the status quo. Let's never do anything, but clutch pearls and wring hands
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I'm not advocating for that either, but the inertia is so immense, the problem so multi-dimensional, that whatever explanation of the Situation you provide has to be unassailable TEFLON. Whatever you'll do will have to be done steadfastly with historically unheard of resolve.
Gimmicks are prone to backfiring.

 
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I wonder what "explanation of the cause" of anthropogenic climate change" could be made to your satisfaction?

What do you mean "you wonder" ?  You're on the Doomstead Diner for crying out loud !
You know damn well the climate change issue isn't one to be looked at in isolation.
You either give a proper assessment of the WHOLE BIG PICTURE to show you're TRULY COMPETENT ... or you PROVE that you're not by throwing a grab bag of progressive policies and throw them under the umbrella of a half assed Green New Deal  ...

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but Ocasio-Cortez majored in international relations and economics at Boston University, graduating cum laude in 2011.

I've been reading about energy, economics and finance for over 13 years non stop now, and the time has long passed that such a resume would actually impress me.
The truth is, a science and economics background should now be mandatory qualifications for any government leadership position in all advanced countries. The system is to complex now for overly ambitious lawyers, economist and 'social scientists' to have a go at demonstrating what 'Silo Thinking' can do for us...
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