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The SNAP Card Gourmet 004 - Chicken SNAP Alaska RE
« on: November 23, 2014, 01:05:13 AM »

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Published on the Doomstead Diner on November 23, 2014


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Week 4, the BONUS Week in the SNAP Card Budget has finally ARRIVEDAT LAST I will be able to start varying my meals and doing some more creative cooking!


As opposed to my roughly $25 Budget in the first 3 Weeks of this Adventure, this week I have about $65 to spend on FOOD left on my SNAP Card!  I am feeling positively WEALTHY as I head over to the Food Emporiums with this hefty load of Digital FRNs still left on the Card!


I start by cruising for BARGAINS on items I could not afford earlier while I made sure I had enough calories and basics in the larder to make it through the first 3 weeks.  I am in better shape now with a decent amount of basics, plus leftovers from the first 3 weeks.  I’m not gonna go hungry here in the next 10 days no matter what I buy.  However, I am still not going to be stupid and buy super expensive meat cuts quite yet for full on gourmet.  I’m looking for bargain fixin’s to make quality meals with.


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Even though they are not Prime, these steaks are well marbled with FAT and will cook up well on the Grill.


SAMSUNG CAMERA PICTURESIn the Meat Dept, I find On Sale Organic Chicken Breasts, thin cut for $6.  That is a BUY!  Also an odd cut of beef ribs that sold at $2.50/lb, also a BUY for another Stew.  Finally in the Meat Dept, I found a Twin Pack of New York Strip Steaks for around $6, a little thinner than I usually like for BBQ, but with a high flame and quick cook, should be OK.  These steaks are small enough I will not have leftovers and they just are single meal jobs.  They will both be Grilled, because given the choice, I ALWAYS grill steaks rather than do pan or broiler cooking with them.  However, the rest of the prep will differ some so not exactly the same meal.  I am thinking I will have one or two Premium Steak & Eggs Breakfasts, and another Steak Dinner with Onions, Peppers, Tomatoes and Mushrooms.


Altogether here on the Meat End, I am around $15, now I need to fill out the meals here with the remaining $50.


I head first to the Fresh Veggies produce dept of the Food Emporium, as so far I have not had any fresh veggies in my meals and I MISS them.  Besides, they are healthy for you to eat.


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Some of this week’s Veggies! Note the colorful Organic Carrots! Mostly I Steam Veggies if they are not cooked in a stew. Zucchini I like sauteed in butter or bacon fat with some garlic.


I get a Crown of Broccoli for $3, 1 Pt Mushrooms for $2.50, 1/2 lb of Brussel Sprouts for a bit over $1, Spinach for $3, Zucchini $2 and an Avocado for $2.50.  I also still have carrots and onions and potatoes leftover from earlier purchases.  Total on the Fresh Veggies here, around $14.  So now up to $29 Spent, around $35 left.


Given the stuff I have just purchased, plus what is left from before, I now plan in my head my meals, and have to buy some premium stuff I do not have.


I need some spice, Tarragon for $3.  I need cooking sherry and marsala cooking wine, ON SALE for $4.59 each.  Two cans of Seasoned Black Beans, $2.  The Beans are to go with Rice in the larder as one of the Carb choices of the week besides the Spaghetti and the Potatoes. I have plenty of dried beans in my Preps, but canned beans are WAY easier to prepare and they aren’t very expensive. Unlike many other veggies also, canned beans don’t have much different texture than if you prepare them from dried beans.  I absolutely cannot stand anything like Canned Asparagus or Green Beans though.  Yuck Mush and tasteless, never buy them on ANY budget!. Total here another $15 or so, down to $20 left.


With the remaining, I buy some Staples, Sour Cream to go with my Baked Potatoes, $2.50, Hot Sauce $3 , 1 lb Ground Beef, $5, Spaghetti Sauce $3, Peanut Butter $2, Loaf Oatbread  ON SALE $3.


10 Day Plan as it evolves during the Shopping Expedition is this:


2 Nights Steak Dinners with Carb & Veggie Side Dishes


3 Nights Chicken Dinners with Carb & Veggie Side Dishes


2 Nights Stew Dinners


1 Night Gourmet Hamburger Dinner


1 Night Leftover Chili Dinner


1 Night ALL LEFTOVERS Dinner.


SAMSUNG CAMERA PICTURESFor the Stew this week, besides the riblets, it gets potatoes, carrots, onions, and garlic, some onion soup mix for broth and a little BBQ sauce.  Main difference from normal stew is that prior to dropping the meat into the Slow Cooker, I seared it on the Grill, which adds some nice smokey flavor.  You could just eat these off the grill, but this meat is a little tough even though there is plenty of fat.  Added benefit of doing a quick grilling first is that you render off some of the copious fat in this cut, which would be way too much in your stew.  Even so, I will probably have to cool it and skim some fat off after the slow cook, although in a real starvation scenario you would never do this.  In terms of calories, the more fat the better in your meal.  You have to balance this against having so much fat in there you clog up your arteries and die from Cardiac Arrest instead of starvation.  Overall though, on a Paleo type diet you can leave most fat in as long as you don’t overdo total consumption.


For the Chicken Dishes, my plan was to make two from the package of thin sliced organic chicken breasts, my own recipe of Chicken Alaska SNAP RE, and a typical Chicken Marsala.  However, I ended up just making the one Chicken Alaska since I didn’t have time and just did all 4 Chicken Breasts the same way. The Preps are not too much different for Marsala, and mostly the cooking is the same although you do have to bake Chicken RE a little in the oven to melt the cheese, which you do not have to do for Chicken Marsala.  For Chicken Marsala, you can go to Emeril or the Food Network for a recipe and cooking method, I won’t do that one here.



Now, I have to make an admission here, the recipes I am including do NOT include some spices that I have in my Preps that I could add to flavor these meals up a bit more.  They are still pretty tasty without the additional spices, and equally nutritious either way.  If you have some available spices, don’t hesitate to add them to make the recipe even BETTER!    For the Chicken Alaska SNAP RE, I suggest Tarragon and Sage in the saute phase.  Tarragon is a real good spice to use with Chicken, and the Sage accentuates the aroma.


Chicken SNAP Alaska RE Recipe


Ingredients


1 lb thin sliced Chicken Breasts


2 Tomatoes


1 Avocado


Cheddar Cheese


6 cloves Garlic


1/4 cup Flour


Cooking Oil


Directions


Pound chicken breasts thin, flour both sides.  Add chopped garlic to hot cooking oil, sear the breasts 2-3 minutes each side, remove from flame.  Add Sliced Tomatoes to the Hot Oil/Garlic, fry each side about 1-2 minutes.  Lay Tomato slices over chicken on skillet or baking dish.  Lay cheese slices over chicken & tomatoes.  Bake in Oven @ 350 F for around 10 minutes until the cheese melts nicely.  Lay Avocado Slices over the cheese and Serve.  Serves 4 people, or four meals for one person.  Approximate cost: $3-4 per serving.


This brings us to another issue, Cooking after TSHTF, or Cooking from just what you can Grow or Raise on your Doomstead.


Tons of things you drop into a Recipe are only available while JIT Shipping is still up and running to some extent.   Who grows Peppercorns on their Doomstead?  Can you get Avocados?  Paprika?  Cooking Sherry?  Lemons?  Probably not on many things, so your meals will not have such flavorings in them, even if you have access to Fish, Chicken, Moose, Potatoes, Carrots etc.


http://gallagher-photo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Mongolia_Homeless_07.JPGYour actual ability to “cook” also gets limited down, while I can pound chicken breasts and flour them, you can’t do this if you are homeless, or at least it is real difficult.  Once you are homeless, your either boiling stuff or roasting it over a flame if you are working with anything fresh, but mostly you are not and just heating up canned food or microwaving in a convenience store. Homeless people do not have lots of cooking utensils, cast iron pans which are heavy to carry around etc.  Cooking with NO Utensils at all is just either open flame roasting or burying the food wrapped in leaves with hot rocks for a slow cook.


In fact “cooking” as we know it today really did not begin until Metallurgy was pretty well developed to make Pots, Pans, Griddles, Dutch Ovens etc.  Cookware in the old days was very valuable and handed down from generation to generation, along with things like Silverware and Fine China dishware.  With the Industrial Era though, mass produced cooking and eating utensils got very cheap and everyone takes these things for granted now.  Once out on the street though as a Homeless person, most of these things are baggage you just can’t carry around with you.  Most of what you eat off of and with is disposable paper and plasticware.  I have a couple of Stoneware sets, but I almost never use them.  Paper Plates!  Yes, I know it is wasteful.  However, I save on the energy used to wash the dishes!


http://bellpub.com/images/ugcoverphotos/UG_201107_CoverPhoto.jpgThis ends the first month, and what it does demonstrate is that you most certainly can survive on a SNAP card allotment, at least as long as you are not yet Homeless.  In fact you can do way better than I did this month by accessing Food Pantries if you qualify, and next month I will figure into the equation what is possible with food issued out to low income people and the elderly at a Food Pantry like the one I Volunteer at.  If you add in this stuff, at least twice a week you can eat premium foods if you watch the total budget and your consumption and food type distribution.


As long as both the SNAP Cards are issued out AND the Food Pantries continue to operate, any real “Food Riots” here in the FSoA such as you see already in MENA are unlikely.  If you are starving here in the FSoA right now, it’s either because you are already Homeless or do not have knowledge enough to be able to access the Food Assistance that is available in most neighborhoods, or you simply do not know how to Budget and spend your SNAP allotment on stupid things.  Like a Bag of Potato Chips that runs $4! Soda and high fructose corn syrup “Juices”!  Drink WATER from the Tap on a SNAP Budget!  For many people though, they simply don’t think about this and spend the whole $140 on junk which is gone in a week or two,  which is sad.


At the moment, the problem Economically for most of the population is not a Food Problem, there is plenty and it is getting distributed out for the most part, although you definitely have instances of people being poorly nourished due to their own ignorance and the poor choices in food available they make.  That food plenty will probably not last in perpetuity of course, but neither do I think it will drop off the map here in the FSoA that rapidly either.


Finally for today, in the next month I am not going to delineate the weekly purchases from here on in, but rather do an Estimated Cost Per Meal, since the accumulation of stuff over time means you do not always buy new stuff every month.  For instance, one quart of cooking oil lasts me at least 2 months.  Same with a pound of butter.  There are always leftovers to every meal, so you cannot make an absolute on exactly what you need to buy in any given month once you get going on this.


Generally speaking, most meals will come in between $2-$5.  Daily expenditures will mostly stay under $5, but after a few days of CHEAP EATING, a Gourmet Meal that might run $10 or even $20 might be cooked up here on the Diner Stove.  You cannot do many of those though and stay under a total monthly budget of $140.  However, I will do one SUPER PREMIUM meal each month and still stay under Budget.


Besides looking at what you get in a monthly box from the food pantry, I’ll also look more at how a Homeless person might use his SNAP Card and try to stay under budget with just Canned and Microwaveable foods in the next month.  Then we’ll examine the total economics of living on Poverty level income.


Until next week then, Eat Well and Stay Healthy!


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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2014, 03:47:58 AM »
This will probably become a Blog Article, but I just wanted to do a quick Diary WRT the latest SNAP Card Gourmet and what a fucking pain in the ass this little series has become already for me.

I realize now why I stopped cooking and started living just on prepared foods of one type or another, the Leftovers issue and the Cleaning issue.

Every single dish I prepare besides the Breakfasts has at least 2 and sometimes as many as 5 days of leftovers to eat.  Even with less than 1lb of chopped meat in my Spaghetti with Meatballs & Sausage, this made 5 fairly hefty Spaghetti Dinners, and to keep the dishware issue down I just took the whole pot of sauce and dropped it in the fridge instead of filling 5 separate containers I would have had to wash later.  I just used one and filled it each time with spaghetti, ladled the sauce and meat over it and took it to work to Microwave.  Then on returning home, wash the container, fill again, rinse and repeat.

For tonight's Chicken Alaska SNAP RE, I ate exactly one of those Organic Chicken Breast Fillets, and the other 3 are now in the Fridge, again to be packed in a container to take to work and microwave up for lunch.  It's a tasty meal, but 4 times in a week gets old FAST.  Plus even well packaged, the Avocado will turn brown here and it won't look near so appetizing though it will not taste much different.

Then I was going to make Full dishes to photograph, with the veggies and the carbs, to look like your Classic Meal that Mom would serve or you get in a Restaurant, except I never eat that way EXCEPT when I go to a restaraunt now.  After spending an hour or so cooking up the Chicken dish, I just ate the chicken fillet, tomato, cheese and avocado, and that was plenty filling.  I did not need or want Rice and Beans or a Potato or Spaghetti to further fill me up.  Then I had to do cleanup after the cooking, wash the pots and pans etc.

If I buy a Microwave meal, I just throw it in the microwave, eat the garbage inside and then dispose of the garbage packaging, the whole process takes no time at all really other than the actual eating.  I don't have to stand over it and push the food around while it microwaves, I just surf the net.

For cooking to be even moderately Efficient, you HAVE to be cooking for at least 4 people.  Even just cooking for 2 is more an exercise in being social than a good means of food prep these days.  I remember in my dim memory from before my parents divorced the Sit Down Dinner meals, particularly from the Brasil era when the Cook made them and the maids served and cleaned up and Dad, Mom, Sis and me sat and ate the Fejon.  After the divorce though returning to the FSoA, while Mom or me cooked dinner, most of the time we never actually sat down together and ate, except on Special Occassions like Thanksgiving.

As a Single Person/Hermit, unless you carefully save all your leftovers and then eat them all week after the prep & cooking, there is no way to do this efficiently either in time spent or in the amount of food you need to buy and cook at one time.  To cook ONE of those Chicken Breasts each night separately is a total waste of time and energy too, since you need to have the oven on at exactly the same temp every time you do it.  Then you have to wash and clean the pots and pans 4 times over instead of once.  Besides that, you need to store your raw chicken breasts all week in the fridge after opening the package.  You could vacuum seal each one and then freeze it, but that is still MORE work!  Not to mention more plastic garbage from the vacuum sealer.

Contrast this with my typical Bachelor system since my trucking years, which is just to buy some takeout or a microwaveable and consume it, then just pitch the packaging.  No prep time, no cleanup, no leftovers!  Even if there ARE leftovers, you leave them in the same disposable packaging, then after consuming the leftover you dispose of the packaging same way.  Does it cost more?  Not really much more, because for instance the Michaelinas Microwaveable come in at $1 each, and they usually suffice for a lunch meal.  Canned soups come in pretty cheap too.  If I buy Takeout Chinese, I usually get 2 days out of it for $6-7.  I'm not really on a SNAP budget, and the difference maybe is $20 week most. Plus no cleanup, no cooking time, no energy usage on the stove and much more variety.

Is the quality very good?  No of course not, this is junk food.  However, pop a vitamin and you at least are getting your daily intake requirement of protein, carbs, fats and vitamins, you don't starve.  It takes a few years/decades of eating this way to finally kill you, I can testify to that as I am not dead yet after close to 20 years eating like this since the OTR days in the Big Rig.

This is really a good reason to be living on a Sunstead, communally preparing and eating food.  You need a significant size group of people all eating the same stuff at the same time to make the prep time and cleanup time worthwhile, and not be stuck with leftovers you have to eat all week.

Not sure how much longer I will do the cooking thing, I think once I flesh out the costs and methods for the truly Homeless, I will tie up this series, at least until we get a Sunstead operational.  Cooking just for me is a pain in the ass and takes too much time up.

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Re: The SNAP Card Gourmet 004 - Chicken SNAP Alaska RE
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 05:09:40 AM »
Sounds like a First World Problem to me...

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For cooking to be even moderately Efficient, you HAVE to be cooking for at least 4 people.  Even just cooking for 2 is more an exercise in being social than a good means of food prep these days.

My experience is different.  Although I'm not a bad hand in the kitchen (I can make a pesto sauce that will make angels sing), Contrary does most of the cooking for us since most days she is at home.  Most nights, she puts on a nice meal for just the two of us, and the leftovers are good for another meal. For two people.  The point of your SNAP card exercise is to illustrate  just how varied and interesting a low-cost menu can be, by looking at it differently and applying just a small bit of imagination.  The addition of a second person makes the math work far better.  Doesn't do a damn thing for the cleanup, though, LOL.

It does get to be a bit much for one person, without doubt. It's pretty clear that most people with SNAP cards are in households  containing multiple people, including children. The math argues as much.

Quote from: wikipedia
Poverty is a state of privation, or a lack of the usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possessions.[1] The most common measure of poverty in the U.S. is the "poverty threshold" set by the U.S. government. This measure recognizes poverty as a lack of those goods and services commonly taken for granted by members of mainstream society.[2] The official threshold is adjusted for inflation using the consumer price index. The government's definition of poverty is based on total income received. For example, the poverty level for 2014 was set at $23,850 (total yearly income) for a family of four.[3] Most Americans will spend at least one year below the poverty line at some point between ages 25 and 75.[4] Poverty rates are persistently higher in rural and inner city parts of the country as compared to suburban areas.[5][6]
In November 2012 the U.S. Census Bureau said more than 16% of the population lived in poverty, including almost 20% of American children,[7] up from 14.3% (approximately 43.6 million) in 2009 and to its highest level since 1993. In 2008, 13.2% (39.8 million) Americans lived in poverty.[8] Starting in the 1980s, relative poverty rates have consistently exceeded those of other wealthy nations.[9] California has a poverty rate of 23.5%, the highest of any state in the country.[10]
In 2009 the number of people who were in poverty was approaching 1960s levels that led to the national War on Poverty.[11] In 2011 extreme poverty in the United States, meaning households living on less than $2 per day before government benefits, was double 1996 levels at 1.5 million households, including 2.8 million children.[12] This would be roughly 1.2% of the US population in 2011, presuming a mean household size of 2.55 people. Census data for 2011 showed that half the population qualified as low income.[13]
In 2011, child poverty reached record high levels, with 16.7 million children living in food insecure households, about 35% more than 2007 levels.[14] A 2013 UNICEF report ranked the U.S. as having the second highest relative child poverty rates in the developed world.[15]

The same page shows that nearly 22% – 22%! – Of American children live within the poverty threshold or below.



 Me, I connect the dots and I see that economic inequality is a crime against humanity worthy of the Kuala Lampur Tribunal, but that would be me.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2014, 05:50:13 AM »
Excellent article, RE.

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As long as both the SNAP Cards are issued out AND the Food Pantries continue to operate, any real “Food Riots” here in the FSoA such as you see already in MENA are unlikely.  If you are starving here in the FSoA right now, it’s either because you are already Homeless or do not have knowledge enough to be able to access the Food Assistance that is available in most neighborhoods, or you simply do not know how to Budget and spend your SNAP allotment on stupid things.  Like a Bag of Potato Chips that runs $4! Soda and high fructose corn syrup “Juices”!  Drink WATER from the Tap on a SNAP Budget!  For many people though, they simply don’t think about this and spend the whole $140 on junk which is gone in a week or two,  which is sad.

Made me think of this:



"'Forgive me if I am not justified in what I ask,' said
Scrooge, looking intently at the Spirit's robe,' but I see
something strange, and not belonging to yourself, protruding
from your skirts. Is it a foot or a claw.'
 
'It might be a claw, for the flesh there is upon it,' was
the Spirit's sorrowful reply. 'Look here.'
 
From the foldings of its robe, it brought two children;
wretched, abject, frightful, hideous, miserable. They knelt
down at its feet, and clung upon the outside of its garment.
 
'Oh, Man. look here. Look, look, down here.' exclaimed the Ghost.
 
They were a boy and a girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling,
wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where
graceful youth should have filled their features out, and
touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled
hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and
pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat
enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No
change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any
grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has
monsters half so horrible and dread.
 
Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him
in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but
the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie
of such enormous magnitude.
 
'Spirit. are they yours.' Scrooge could say no more.
 
'They are Man's,' said the Spirit, looking down upon
them. 'And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers.
This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both,
and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy,
for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the
writing be erased. Deny it.' cried the Spirit, stretching out
its hand towards the city. 'Slander those who tell it ye.
Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse.
And abide the end.'
 
'Have they no refuge or resource.' cried Scrooge.
 
'Are there no prisons.' said the Spirit, turning on him
for the last time with his own words. 'Are there no workhouses.'"


A reminder that poverty follows ignorance as sure as stink follows shit.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2014, 05:54:18 AM »
Sounds like a First World Problem to me...

Indeed it is.  You gotta be living in a 1st  World country just to HAVE all these foods available to buym either in uncooked form in the Food Empriums or in the Microwaveable forms, or hit a counter for prepared foods.

In fact you don't have to be in a 3rd World Country to have poor food choices available, in a trip I took last year to the lower 48  I stayed for awhile in a relatively poor section of Portland OR.  The selection of food in the supermarket there was nowhere NEAR as good as the selection in the local food emporiums up here.  Despite the fact the selection was crappy, the prices were not any cheaper.

If you live in a 3rd world country, your food choices are VERY limited, and the frozen and prepared foods are basically non-existent.

As I said in my arguments with John though over on TBP, I am not trying to examine how a 3rd Worlder has to eat, or trying to create recipes that Preppers can whip up with stuff they raise themselves on their Doomsteads.  All I am trying to do is see how eating works on a low income here in the FSoA as long as some semblance of BAU is still working.

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2014, 10:17:34 PM »
I just got back from a Beer Run over to 3 Bears, and as is my habit now I went for a Stroll along the Meat Aisle to see what was available.  Since I have been doing the SNAP Card Gourmet Episodes, I am always looking for Food Bargains, and as a lifelong Carnivore I always gravitate to the MEAT freezer to see what is being offered up.

Once again, there were some Ribeyes available at $8.79/lb, not a bad price these days and these two in the package I was salivating over were just about perfectly sized for a single meal, each about 1/2 lb in size.  That of course is a pretty large single meal serving, but still possible for me to eat at one sitting.  I ALMOST took them to the counter with me, but then the other Angel on my Shoulder said "RE!  You have 3 Chicken Fillets in the Fridge you still need to eat, you only ate HALF of the Steak & Eggs breakfast you made for SNAP Card Gourmet 4 and the rest is waiting for you to eat for breakfast tomorrow, AND you bought a HUGE Ribeye yesterday to cook for Thanksgiving along with the Ham you bought too!"  So I put them back.

IOW, I got more leftovers and more food waiting to cook up in the fridge than I can eat this week and probably next week too!  But man, those two little Ribeyes looked just SCRUMPTIOUS sitting in the meat fridge and I could almost SMELL them sizzling on the Grill!

Definitely a huge part of the FAT Amerikan problem is all the crappy Fast Food and High Fructose Corn Syrup in the diet, but the real problem here is that in comparison to the average wage in Amerika over the last 40 years, food of all types comes in very CHEAP!  As the SNAP Card Budget demonstrates, even on $5/day you can buy more food in terms of calories than you need each day to live. To actually reach starvation level, you probably need to drop dowon to the $2/day level people in the 3rd World live on.

Everybody enjoys a good meal, and walking around a Food Emporium you are SATURATED with Yumminess to eat, and if you are even just marginally above Poverty level, you can easily buy enough food every week to expand your waistline to the circumference of Saturn's Rings.

Making Food Cheap and generally accessible to everyone in copious quantities all the time is why so many people are FAT.  You see the food all the time, you have enough money to buy it and so you do!  You have to forcibly REFRAIN from buying more food than you actually need, and most people don't do that.

I do wonder how long it will be before this outrageous Food Surplus we see now in the FSoA disappears.

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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 07:15:08 AM »
This has been an interesting topic. Well done on the research and the writing. good conclusions too.

One thing I think is clear. The food trip is easier if it's a communal activity. People are meant to live as families, and if you don't have a family, life is easier if you can adopt one. Even for died-in-the-wool loners. You live longer, eat better, and stay saner if you have other people to care about.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 09:05:01 AM »
This has been an interesting topic. Well done on the research and the writing. good conclusions too.

One thing I think is clear. The food trip is easier if it's a communal activity. People are meant to live as families, and if you don't have a family, life is easier if you can adopt one. Even for died-in-the-wool loners. You live longer, eat better, and stay saner if you have other people to care about.

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 05:13:00 PM »
This has been an interesting topic. Well done on the research and the writing. good conclusions too.

One thing I think is clear. The food trip is easier if it's a communal activity. People are meant to live as families, and if you don't have a family, life is easier if you can adopt one. Even for died-in-the-wool loners. You live longer, eat better, and stay saner if you have other people to care about.

Without question.

Perhaps, but I'd hate to be Homeless and have a Wife & Kidz to worry about.

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Re: Leftovers
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 08:54:44 PM »
Not sure how much longer I will do the cooking thing, I think once I flesh out the costs and methods for the truly Homeless, I will tie up this series, at least until we get a Sunstead operational.  Cooking just for me is a pain in the ass and takes too much time up.
You might want to check out The Anti-Aging Plan by Roy and Lisa Wolford.  They have you prepare a couple weeks worth of healthy meals and freeze them on the weekend so they are quick and convenient to make during the week.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2014, 09:01:46 PM »
Soda and high fructose corn syrup “Juices”!  Drink <strong>WATER</strong> from the Tap on a SNAP Budget!
For that matter, a bottle of lemon juice and a bag of sugar makes quite a lot of lemonade if you can't stand to drink tap water, and the price is so low compared to the commercial drinks you might even think about going organic.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2014, 10:31:41 PM »
Not sure how much longer I will do the cooking thing, I think once I flesh out the costs and methods for the truly Homeless, I will tie up this series, at least until we get a Sunstead operational.  Cooking just for me is a pain in the ass and takes too much time up.
You might want to check out The Anti-Aging Plan by Roy and Lisa Wolford.  They have you prepare a couple weeks worth of healthy meals and freeze them on the weekend so they are quick and convenient to make during the week.

That actually is what I am DOING.  The pain in the ass part is all the dishware to freeze up all the meals that you then have to wash, plus washing all the cooking utensils, plus the amount of time it takes to prepare and cook up several meals on a Saturday after work or on Sunday.  Even just to do a couple of dishes to then freeze up takes a couple of hours, although it is longer because of doing some videos.

The food is better than what I usually get from the microwaveables and takeout, but it's just too time consuming.

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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2014, 02:47:22 AM »
Not sure how much longer I will do the cooking thing, I think once I flesh out the costs and methods for the truly Homeless, I will tie up this series, at least until we get a Sunstead operational.  Cooking just for me is a pain in the ass and takes too much time up.
You might want to check out The Anti-Aging Plan by Roy and Lisa Wolford.  They have you prepare a couple weeks worth of healthy meals and freeze them on the weekend so they are quick and convenient to make during the week.

That actually is what I am DOING.  The pain in the ass part is all the dishware to freeze up all the meals that you then have to wash, plus washing all the cooking utensils, plus the amount of time it takes to prepare and cook up several meals on a Saturday after work or on Sunday.  Even just to do a couple of dishes to then freeze up takes a couple of hours, although it is longer because of doing some videos.

The food is better than what I usually get from the microwaveables and takeout, but it's just too time consuming.

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Boy, does that sound like a First World Problem.  And with that, you've encapsulated what's wrong with our society.  We purchase convenience on a regular basis, and if it's laden with poison, so what, since the consequences will not be immediate.  And we all know that each of us will live forever.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 02:56:47 AM »
And we all know that each of us will live forever.

In my case at least, the precise OPPOSITE is true.  I KNOW I won't LIVE FOREVER, and it doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of difference if I die at 60 because of crappy food or at 70 because I cooked up healthy meals.

These days it looks like I will die of Starvation or a Nuclear Bomb or Ebola before my crappy Food Choices and the Cigarettes have a chance to kill me, they are working too slowly.  LOL.

All the time I save washing dishes is more time to chronicle the doom before I croak!  :icon_mrgreen:

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2014, 07:18:04 PM »
I am currently consuming my latest Dish, Filet Mignon Bourbon RE following the recording of the lates Energy Depletion chat with Steve, Ugo, Ron Patterson and Monsta.

I quit on the SNAP Card Budget at the end of November, and these two Fillets at $17/lb looked just too good to pass up!

Filet is one of the few cuts of meat you DON'T usually wanna Grill on the BBQ, although they are OK that way too.  I even like them Raw as Steak Tartare, in this case right after I bought them I had about 1/4 lb this way while still super fresh.

I dropped the rest in the leftover Marinade from last week's Ribeye, and added about a 1/4 cup of JD Tennessee Whiskey aka bourbon to the marinade to kill off any Bacteria and left it in the fridge all week until I had a chance to cook it up.

A simple one skillet cookup here, I threw in the skillet a cup of sliced mushrooms and some garlic cloves, and reduced the mushrooms and browned them, then threw in the Filet Mignon, browned on both sides and then poured in the remaining marinade to steam and reduce for about 10 minutes.  This evaporates all the remaining alcohol, so it is safe to serve to your preschooler.  LOL.

Resulting dish was VERY tasty, and I still have one of the two fillets in a Pyrex container to microwave for lunch tomorrow!

Slowly working my way through all the food I bought for the SNAP Card Gourmet.  Still go a lot of veggies I have to consume here, and Ham and Eggs too.  I will not starve for at least another week.

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