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Remember Chikungunya?
« on: December 17, 2014, 07:21:23 AM »
It's always summer somewhere.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/17/health/chikungunya-infects-the-americas/
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Re: Remember Chikungunya?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 07:29:44 AM »
It's always summer somewhere.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/17/health/chikungunya-infects-the-americas/

There are so many things in this world for folks to be terrified of, that it hardly seems worth getting up in the morning, eh Eddie?

Yet we all seem to continue doing it anyway...unstoppable human optimism I guess.

From a psychologically standpoint, if we all bought into 1/10th of the Doom cheerfully treated as news of the day by the malevolent pessimists, the human species should have offed itself long ago.

Of course, those folks are always being proven wrong, and I suppose it could be argued that those more inclined to critically examine the world around them drag the rest of the planet with us because at the end of the day, exceptionalism is far more powerful than that brand of  blind and subjective pessimism.
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Re: Remember Chikungunya?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 08:39:31 AM »
I'm obviously not that scared of chikungunya, since I travel to the Caribbean fairly regularly. But i do think that it's a sign that globalization and climate change are influencing the spread of a lot of diseases.

Only a few people dying of chikungunya. Only a few people dying of Ebola. But the patterns of how the diseases are spreading is a significant phenomenon, and worth keeping an eye on.

We had a serious world-wide epidemic about a hundred years ago. It had a lot to do with the war, and people moving around in large numbers, and living in poor conditions. At some point it will happen again.
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Re: Remember Chikungunya?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2014, 08:42:30 AM »
It's always summer somewhere.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/17/health/chikungunya-infects-the-americas/

There are so many things in this world for folks to be terrified of, that it hardly seems worth getting up in the morning, eh Eddie?

Yet we all seem to continue doing it anyway...unstoppable human optimism I guess.

From a psychologically standpoint, if we all bought into 1/10th of the Doom cheerfully treated as news of the day by the malevolent pessimists, the human species should have offed itself long ago.

Of course, those folks are always being proven wrong, and I suppose it could be argued that those more inclined to critically examine the world around them drag the rest of the planet with us because at the end of the day, exceptionalism is far more powerful than that brand of  blind and subjective pessimism.



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Re: Remember Chikungunya?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2014, 08:53:48 AM »
I'm obviously not that scared of chikungunya, since I travel to the Caribbean fairly regularly. But i do think that it's a sign that globalization and climate change are influencing the spread of a lot of diseases.

Only a few people dying of chikungunya.

Oh no, chikungunya doesn't kill you.... it only makes you wish you were dead.
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Re: Remember Chikungunya?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2014, 11:31:56 AM »
I'm obviously not that scared of chikungunya, since I travel to the Caribbean fairly regularly. But i do think that it's a sign that globalization and climate change are influencing the spread of a lot of diseases.

Sure. And it has been happening since before there was petroleum to blame it on. But with the internet...and petroleum....everyone does seem to have a wee bit more fear in them nowadays.

I have always assumed it is a lack of travel is behind quite a bit of the fear in the world...one of my favorite quotes, "The world is  book and those who do not travel read but a page".

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Only a few people dying of chikungunya. Only a few people dying of Ebola. But the patterns of how the diseases are spreading is a significant phenomenon, and worth keeping an eye on.

And always have been. Remember when ebola here in the States was being all lathered up right here on this very website? Funny how fast folks first participate in breathless speculation because it suits them..and then vanish when the reality is pointed out later.

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We had a serious world-wide epidemic about a hundred years ago. It had a lot to do with the war, and people moving around in large numbers, and living in poor conditions. At some point it will happen again.

Sure will. Remember the swine flu doomer scheme in 2008? LATOC was trying to corner the market on surgical masks....using the same ideas that their modern equivalent used right here on this website for ebola. Shut down the flights!!! they screamed.

I am more interested in the WHY people suffer from all this fear, this natural pessimism that impairs their ability to think critically, calculate the probability of this hysteria being real compared to all the other false alarms and breathless innuendo consumed on the web. At the core of enlightenment lies the answer I believe, and it has fear involved in it, but how? What causes people to seem to enjoy looking at some random graph and proclaiming it to be the proof of the next dieoff, collapse, or disaster? Even worse than this, why do they seem to enjoy and revel in spinning such a tale, drooling over the consequences like a pedophile does kiddy porn? What is the root of their disease, to abandon all logic and reason in their mad rush to some doom, any doom, anywhere, of any size?

Haven't figured it out yet. But I don't think disease brought to the America's will stop me from enjoying the wonders of learning about people and this planet, any more than the fear of death or heights should stop one from parachuting from an airplane just to see what it might be like. Living in that eternal state of fear...what does that do to a person, in terms of their character and fortitude and integrity?
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