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Published on April 23, 2013 on Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis



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With this post, the Diner welcomes Jonny Mnemonic to the pantheon of cross posting Bloggers on the Diner.Jonny runs the Blog Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis, where he collects daily evidence of seemingly inexplicable phenomena of spontaneous Bus combustion, people suffocating in their homes, plane crashes and so forth.The hypothesis here is that the atmosphere is already becoming filled with pockets of Methane and Hydrogen Sulfide gas being released from ocean plumes, and these are responsible for the seemingly inexplicable deaths and explosions.  Jonny has collected thousands of stories over the last few years to validate his hypothesis on his website.  Visit there for the full listings.-RE


This is a substantial revision to ‘The Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis’, written on April 23, 2013. Nothing about the conclusions or predictions has changed, but I have reformatted the information, breaking the information down into three sections for (I hope) improved clarity and understanding: What Is Happening, Why Is This Happening, and What Are The Effects.



PART ONE: WHAT IS HAPPENING?


The waters of the Earth are now pluming suffocating methane and deadly hydrogen sulfide, both highly flammable gases.


Ancient anaerobic bacteria and archaea that pre-date oxygen-using life are reassuming dominance on the Earth. As part of their life cycle these bacteria and archaea emit hydrogen sulfide. As a consequence, the oceans, lakes and seas have begun to plume increasing amounts of hydrogen sulfide into the atmosphere. This is an ancient extinction event. Hydrogen sulfide is the likely culprit in many if not all previous planetary extinction events.


Hydrogen sulfide is a deadly broad-spectrum poison. It is lethal to humans with one or two breaths in concentrations of 1 part per thousand. In other words, if the air you breathe is 99.9% clean and 0.1% hydrogen sulfide then you’re going to be dead after one or two breaths. It is also a water-soluble gas and will contaminate water. It is a heavier-than-air gas so it will tend to seek out low-lying areas such as rivers, lakes, seas, oceans, valleys, ravines, ditches, quays, bays, gorges, canyons, basements, underground facilities, etc. It is also highly flammable and is reactive with numerous substances, including (but not limited to) copper, rusty iron/steel, nitric acid, and sodium hydroxide.


At very low concentrations hydrogen sulfide is said to smell like ‘rotten eggs’. However, you should not count on being able to smell it at any concentration beyond the trivial as it paralyzes the olfactory sense and if you can smell it at all then the smell will fade rapidly. That does not mean the danger is gone! At medium-high concentrations some people say that it can smell ‘flowery’ or ‘sickeningly sweet’. I have smelled that odor myself, when a septic worker had a sewer lid open and was pumping excrement into the sewer from porta-potties. (I got as far away from there as I could before I took another breath.)


Though it is a heavier-than-air gas, hydrogen sulfide is nevertheless being blown up into the upper atmosphere sometimes, where it is reacting away both the ozone layer and hydroxyl radicals. The loss of the ozone layer will probably eventually result in lethal levels of UV radiation baking the surface of the planet. The rising UV levels are already damaging DNA and RNA and causing increases in the frequency of genetic defects such as albinism and polycephaly (two-headedness) and genetic chimeras.


The loss of hydroxyl radicals means that atmospheric methane will last considerably longer in the atmosphere than it normally would, since hydroxyl radicals would normally mitigate the methane. Which brings me to…


Methane clathrate deposits in the oceans around the world are now dissociating (melting), flooding the atmosphere with increasing amounts of methane, which is a highly flammable odorless gas. Natural gas is primarily comprised of methane. The methane releases alone would probably be enough to eradicate human civilization from the surface of the Earth. This is called the Clathrate Gun Hypothesis.


We are getting both hydrogen sulfide releases and methane releases. This is likely the same scenario that killed off most life on Earth during the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event, also called ‘The Great Dying’.



PART TWO: WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?


The simple answer is: heat. The ancient anaerobic bacteria and archaea that produce hydrogen sulfide as part of their life cycle like warm environments that are rich in biomatter and devoid of oxygen. The warmer the waters of the Earth become, the less oxygen they can hold. For years we have been told about ‘dead zones’ spreading throughout the oceans. That’s what ‘dead zones’ are: hypoxic (low-oxygen) or anoxic (no-oxygen) areas.


In recent years we have seen many large-scale oceanic die-offs with millions of fish bubbling up dead. Often these events are blamed on ‘low TDO levels’. TDO stands for ‘total dissolved oxygen’. In other words, we’ve been told that life in the oceans is dying because of low oxygen levels. Well, that’s precisely the environment that the ancient anaerobic bacteria and archaea that emit hydrogen sulfide love. The corpses of the fish are themselves biomatter and those bacteria and archaea will eat those corpses, essentially turning dead fish into poison gas, which then kills more fish, and so on – a chain reaction.


Where is the heat coming from? There are two obvious possibilities: from above or from below. It’s actually both. First, the ice started melting around the planet. Whether that was because of human pollution or cycles of the Sun or galactic alignment or whatever else is irrelevant, at least to me. I would be hesitant to blame humans too much though, since this has all happened before when no human beings existed at all.


In any case, as the ice has melted, vast quantities of mass – quadrillions of tons – have self-relocated from land to the oceans. Water is an interesting substance in terms of mobility. In solid form it is more or less immobile, but turn it into liquid and it moves by itself, heading downhill. As that mass has made its way to the oceans – where the Earth’s crust is thinnest – we have witnessed a rising number of quakes and volcanic eruptions. An older theory of mine, the Theory of Mass-Induced Seismic Amplification, or MISA Theory, explains this in a bit more detail. To summarize, MISA Theory – which was retrospectively corroborated in late 2012 by one of the best university geology departments on the planet – says that as land-based ice melts and that mass moves to the oceans, faults and volcanoes in or near the oceans that are close to tipping points will be pushed over the edge and this will result in more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, especially in the oceans and near coastlines.


(Interesting aside: notice when MISA Theory was published, on Chistmas Day in 2010, and note that I mentioned Japan prominently in the third paragraph. What happened just 2.5 months after I published MISA Theory? Japan was hit by one of the biggest quakes in recorded history. And where did that quake occur? Right off the coast.)


If you’ve been paying attention to large quakes and volcanic eruptions over the last few years, you can see that MISA Theory is proving itself before our very eyes – there have been many many large oceanic quakes and volcanic eruptions near coasts or underwater in the last few years. We hear less about the subsurface volcanic eruptions, because either we don’t have enough ‘eyes’ around the world watching the volcanoes 20,000 feet underwater, or because those that know what’s going on simply aren’t telling us.


It is probably these oceanic volcanic eruptions that are adding large amounts of heat to the oceans as magma moves closer to the surface, but these volcanic eruptions were themselves caused by the relocation of enormous amounts of mass from the thick continental plates to the thin oceanic plates as the Earth’s ice has melted away, and that melting was probably caused by heat entering ‘the system’ from above. This increase in oceanic heat is what is both dissociating the methane clathrate deposits and expanding the viable habitat for the ancient anaerobic bacteria and archaea that produce hydrogen sulfide.


This process is self-reinforcing once it has begun. The methane entering the atmosphere will add to the warming, which will melt more ice, which will result in the relocation of yet more mass from land to sea, which will cause more volcanic eruptions, which will expand the territory for those ancient bacteria and archaea, which will produce more hydrogen sulfide. In other words, the trigger on this extinction event has already been pulled and we’re now watching the bullet plow through our ‘body’ – human civilization – and kill us. Our hand has already been dealt and it’s a very bad hand indeed, but we’re still going to have to play it out.



PART THREE: WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS?


Probably the most noticeable effect will be fires and explosions sweeping across the planet. Businesses, homes, vehicles and infrastructure will be consumed by raging fires. Ammo depots will be hit with explosions and fires, including the civilian versions like fireworks factories. Likewise, chemical plants of all types will burn and/or explode, including biofuels plants, fertilizer plants, specialty chemical plants, petroleum-related facilities and more. Metal-related businesses will be hit hard, including salvage yards and metal recycling centers. Trash-related facilities such as recycling centers and landfills will burn hard too, as hydrogen sulfide is absorbed into flammable absorbent materials like wood, paper, cardboard, straw, hay, dried brush, generic trash, clothing, cotton, wool. Wood-related fires will escalate, including fires at pallet companies, wood-carving businesses, furniture businesses, door companies, cabinet companies, etc. Peoples’ clothing will spontaneously combust from time to time, or ignite very very easily from the slightest spark or heat, as has been happening with increasing frequency and people will be burned to death as a consequence. So far as homes are concerned, vacant homes, unoccupied homes and homes under construction will burn hardest and first but the number of occupied homes burning will also be increasing.


Vehicles of all kinds will continue to burn, as they have been, and the number of vehicular fires will continue to escalate, inevitably resulting in a corresponding increase in the number of people being incinerated in their vehicles. Traffic accidents will be on the rise as increasing numbers of people lose consciousness, experience seizures or flat-out die while driving. More people will be found dead in submerged vehicles. Many vehicles will veer off the road, hit trees or buildings, burst into flame, and kill the driver. As planes land, they will more frequently blow tires, or their landing gear will collapse, or they will run off runways. Massive vehicles such as big RVs, buses, tanker trucks, tractor trailers, dump trucks, and car-haulers will be destroyed by fire in escalating numbers after tires or brakes ignite. Delivery of goods – including food and fuel – will become more problematic as time goes on.


Obviously there will be animals dying off, especially oceanic species, but other species will sicken and die too. Sometimes animals will go crazy from neurological damage caused by hydrogen sulfide’s neurotoxic properties. Some animals may foam at the mouth as a result of chemical damage to their lungs. Predators will attempt to adapt to the changes in the biosphere and may turn to our pets or to us as an alternate source of nutrition. All oxygen-using species will suffer but because of their vigorous reproductive capabilities, insects and fungi and some species of plants will fare best and the world may for a very significant time be dominated by those species.


Humans will sicken and die, especially in, near, or downwind of low-lying areas such as bodies of water. People found dead will often show no sign of injury, and this will include young and healthy people. Humans will also go insane due to neurological damage caused by hydrogen sulfide’s neurotoxic properties and this will occur with increasing frequency. Some people will be seen foaming at the mouth, as has happened in a number of incidents over the past year. Violence, sometimes insanely savage, will be on the rise, especially among the young, whose neurologies are less ‘hardened’. People will sometimes experience bruising with no apparent reason. Memory may erode and some people will forget who they are entirely; that’s already happened in at least two cases in recent times. Renal problems – e.g. problems with kidneys – will escalate, as is already happening with crop workers on the western coast of Central America. Some people will experience twitching or jerking, similar to that caused by Parkinson’s or Tourette’s. People will sometimes suddenly lose the ability to speak intelligibly for a short time – ‘the burtations’ – a problem experienced by a number of newscasters and Judge Judy. There will be more unexplained HazMat events, often involving unusual odors. Eventually the entire populations of towns and cities will drop dead.


Crops will be devastated by droughts, unusual hailstorms, fires, rising UV levels and poisoning. As long as human die-off keeps pace with the decline in crop productivity then this may not be a huge problem. If food production declines faster than the human population does then we may see widespread starvation and all of the societal problems that go along with that.


You will see all of this happening. WHAT is happening cannot be hidden. Instead you will be sold stories about the WHY of these events, because that’s the only way to keep the truth from you – to hide the lie inside the why. This neighborhood blew up because of a gas leak. That man was incinerated in his car because of an electrical problem. Those million fish died because of low TDO levels. That giant thunderous house-shaking explosion off the coast was a sonic boom. The ‘rotten egg’ odor you smelled was a naturally-occurring methane release. Sometimes the stories you’re told may even be truthful. Often they won’t be.


That this extinction event is under way is not the only thing that has been hidden from you…



Informational Links:

Wiki Information On Hydrogen Sulfide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_sulfide


Wiki Information On Sulfate-Reducing Bacteria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfate-reducing_bacteria


Wiki Information On The Permian-Triassic Extinction Event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian-triassic_extinction


In-Depth Science Document (PDF) Explaining How This H2S-Methane Extinction Event Works:

http://www.chicagocleanpower.org/ward.pdf


NOAA Document On Hydrogen Sulfide (Excellent Information):

http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/3625


Centers For Disease Control (CDC) Pocket Guide To Hydrogen Sulfide:

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0337.html


Sensory And Cognitive Effects of Acute Exposure To Hydrogen Sulfide:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7485613/Sensory-and-Cognitive-Effects-of-Acute-Exposure-to-Hydrogen-Sulfide


Wiki Information On The Claus Process (Removes H2S From A Gas Stream):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_process


CCOHS Document On Hydrogen Sulfide:

http://www.ccohs.ca/products/databases/samples/CHEMINFO.html


Document (PDF) Explaining The H2S-Methane Synergy In Extinction Events:

http://acd.ucar.edu/~lamar/PDF/2006GL028384.pdf


Wiki Information On Biogenic Sulfide Corrosion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogenic_sulfide_corrosion


Wiki Information On The Clathrate Gun Hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis


Maps Of Methane Hydrate Deposits Around The World:

http://jumpingjackflashhypothesis.blogspot.com/2013/02/methane-hydrate-maps.html

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=xof86e&s=5


MISA Theory (Theory of Mass-Induced Seismic Amplification):

http://jumpingjackflashhypothesis.blogspot.com/2010/12/misa-theory.html


Theory of the Origin, Evolution, and Nature of Life (Gyromodel of the Universe):

http://www.mdpi.com/2075-1729/2/1/1/



Predictions:


A. More fires and more explosions, especially along the coasts, but everywhere generally.

B. Many more animal die-offs, of all kinds, and especially oceanic species.

C. More multiples of people will be found dead in their homes, as if they’d dropped dead.

D. More corpses found in low-lying areas, all over the world.

E. More unusual vehicular accidents.

F. Improved unemployment numbers as people die off.




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Re: Jumping Jack Flash: It's A Gas Gas Gas!
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 06:55:15 AM »
JJF:GGG Hypothesis now UP on the Diner Blog!  :icon_sunny:

I'm not going to merge this thread with the thread AZ started in Environment, even though it might be a little confusing.  AZs thread has been up too long over there to do a merge.

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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 03:15:40 PM »
JJF:GGG Hypothesis now UP on the Diner Blog!  :icon_sunny:

I'm not going to merge this thread with the thread AZ started in Environment, even though it might be a little confusing.  AZs thread has been up too long over there to do a merge.

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That thread got some leg to it. Loads of folks took a look see.
At least it helps people be aware, & hopefully more safety conscious.
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Re: Jumping Jack Flash: It's A Gas Gas Gas!
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2015, 03:47:07 AM »
Okay, before this becomes the new d00mer Jebus-religion around here, I have to say, a lot of this really smacks of the most masturbatory sort of scare-mongering.  And coming from Yours Truly, that's saying something!

That said, there is good reason to think that truly alarming amounts of methane are being belched into the atmosphere by whatever is causing the planet to warm.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2015, 04:18:30 AM »
Okay, before this becomes the new d00mer Jebus-religion around here, I have to say, a lot of this really smacks of the most masturbatory sort of scare-mongering.  And coming from Yours Truly, that's saying something!

I initially had a similar reaction when Azozeo started posting some of this stuff. But there is something impressive in the sheer preponderance of the evidence.

No doubt of methane emissions, right? Melting clathrates erupting from the land and oceans are already occurring, agreed? If so, the what is the difficulty in embracing the logic of acidifying oceans becoming toxic to large amounts of biota, and the resulting decomposition producing locally toxic gases?

The theory certainly explains the unexplainable (bird, marine life kills). It's an interesting theory and point of view. I'm keeping an open mind.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2015, 08:09:36 AM »
I can actually imagine the methane belches bringing about human extinction, or at the very least triggering a die-off so massive that the survivors have no choice but to revert to an HGH lifestyle for the remainder of humanity's time on the planet.  Even if the Earth isn't alive as such, it is a dynamic system.  And it makes sense that this dynamic system would have a foolproof means of eliminating an organism within it that has chosen to behave as a cancer or a parasite.  That's part of how dynamic systems stay dynamic.

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2015, 11:46:15 AM »

I initially had a similar reaction when Azozeo started posting some of this stuff. But there is something impressive in the sheer preponderance of the evidence.

Really?!  My experience of reading that thread had another impact upon me.  I was just amazed that whenever Azozeo took note of a fire somewhere, or somebody stripping naked somewhere, or a strange illness somewhere... he attributed it to a gas, gas gas. Nowhere did he show any evidence of interest in alternative explanations for events.  Every strange or interesting thing was, for Azozeo "evidence" for his "hypothesis".  Didn't you folks in here ever study a little science in high school or college?



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    JRM I'm posting this for your benefit.
    Here's a chart & graphs from the experts.
    You can believe what you want.

    http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/


THIS is the reason I pay very little attention to this absurd thread ("hypothesis").  Azozeo's capacity to use reasoning in general, and scientific reasoning in particular, is at about the level of a first grader who sleeps through science class.

This is why he uses valid scientific data about CO2 concentrations to argue for dramatic atmospheric rises in atmospheric hydrogen sulfide (H2S).

This whole thread is absurd, ridiculous ... and, well, loopy! A complete waste of precious time.
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This whole thread is absurd, ridiculous ... and, well, loopy! A complete waste of precious time.

Wellcum 2 teh Internetz!   :laugh:

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2015, 12:24:16 PM »
Atmospheric H2S concentrations can and have been measured.  (See below abstract showing regional measurements in Feb-March 1990.) 

Unless Azozeo can provide legitimate scientific  evidence (he knows not what this would mean, sadly) for measured increases for such, such increases are likely to be as a result of his overactive imagination in conjunction with his underactive scientific reasoning.

Anyone who thinks any fire on Earth, especially those near bodies of water, must necessarily be as a result of vast plumes of great concentrations of H2S has not been thinking clearly -- which lack of mental clarity might possibly be a result of sniffing mysterious gases.

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Atmospheric H2S concentrations were measured over the equatorial Pacific on leg 1 of the third Soviet-American Gases and Aerosols (SAGA 3) cruise during February and March 1990. Five N-S transects were made across the equator between Hawaii and American Samoa. The concentrations ranged from below the detection limit of 0.4 ± 0.5 (1 σ) to 14.4 ppt with an average value of 3.6 ± 2.3 ppt (1σ, n = 72). The highest concentrations were found on the easternmost two transects just south of the equator. The average concentration of 3.6 ppt observed on this cruise is the lowest reported value for background atmospheric H2S over the tropical oceans. A lack of correlation between 222Rn and H2S rules out a significant continental source. Model calculations indicate that the oceanic source of H2S in this region is in the range of 9 to 21 × 10−8 mol m−2 d−1. From this flux the concentration of free sulfide (H2S + S= ) in the surface mixed layer of the ocean is estimated to be in the range of 32 to 67 pmol L−1. In the atmosphere the oxidation of H2S produces SO2 at a rate of 2.1 to 4.4 × 10−11 mol m−3 d−1 which is only a small fraction of that estimated from the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS) in this region. A diurnal cycle was not observed in the H2S data recorded during this cruise.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/92JD00451/abstract
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2015, 12:41:31 PM »
Atmospheric H2S concentrations can and have been measured.  (See below abstract showing regional measurements in Feb-March 1990.) 

Unless Azozeo can provide legitimate scientific  evidence (he knows not what this would mean, sadly) for measured increases for such, such increases are likely to be as a result of his overactive imagination in conjunction with his underactive scientific reasoning.

Anyone who thinks any fire on Earth, especially those near bodies of water, must necessarily be as a result of vast plumes of great concentrations of H2S has not been thinking clearly -- which lack of mental clarity might possibly be a result of sniffing mysterious gases.

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Atmospheric H2S concentrations were measured over the equatorial Pacific on leg 1 of the third Soviet-American Gases and Aerosols (SAGA 3) cruise during February and March 1990. Five N-S transects were made across the equator between Hawaii and American Samoa. The concentrations ranged from below the detection limit of 0.4 ± 0.5 (1 σ) to 14.4 ppt with an average value of 3.6 ± 2.3 ppt (1σ, n = 72). The highest concentrations were found on the easternmost two transects just south of the equator. The average concentration of 3.6 ppt observed on this cruise is the lowest reported value for background atmospheric H2S over the tropical oceans. A lack of correlation between 222Rn and H2S rules out a significant continental source. Model calculations indicate that the oceanic source of H2S in this region is in the range of 9 to 21 × 10−8 mol m−2 d−1. From this flux the concentration of free sulfide (H2S + S= ) in the surface mixed layer of the ocean is estimated to be in the range of 32 to 67 pmol L−1. In the atmosphere the oxidation of H2S produces SO2 at a rate of 2.1 to 4.4 × 10−11 mol m−3 d−1 which is only a small fraction of that estimated from the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS) in this region. A diurnal cycle was not observed in the H2S data recorded during this cruise.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/92JD00451/abstract

Those of us who have been professionally trained to work in an H2S environments don't take it lightly when folks spin tales of the stuff floating around in easily combustible clouds. This thing called credibility….
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Atmospheric H2S concentrations can and have been measured.  (See below abstract showing regional measurements in Feb-March 1990.) 

Unless Azozeo can provide legitimate scientific  evidence (he knows not what this would mean, sadly) for measured increases for such, such increases are likely to be as a result of his overactive imagination in conjunction with his underactive scientific reasoning.

Anyone who thinks any fire on Earth, especially those near bodies of water, must necessarily be as a result of vast plumes of great concentrations of H2S has not been thinking clearly -- which lack of mental clarity might possibly be a result of sniffing mysterious gases.

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Atmospheric H2S concentrations were measured over the equatorial Pacific on leg 1 of the third Soviet-American Gases and Aerosols (SAGA 3) cruise during February and March 1990. Five N-S transects were made across the equator between Hawaii and American Samoa. The concentrations ranged from below the detection limit of 0.4 ± 0.5 (1 σ) to 14.4 ppt with an average value of 3.6 ± 2.3 ppt (1σ, n = 72). The highest concentrations were found on the easternmost two transects just south of the equator. The average concentration of 3.6 ppt observed on this cruise is the lowest reported value for background atmospheric H2S over the tropical oceans. A lack of correlation between 222Rn and H2S rules out a significant continental source. Model calculations indicate that the oceanic source of H2S in this region is in the range of 9 to 21 × 10−8 mol m−2 d−1. From this flux the concentration of free sulfide (H2S + S= ) in the surface mixed layer of the ocean is estimated to be in the range of 32 to 67 pmol L−1. In the atmosphere the oxidation of H2S produces SO2 at a rate of 2.1 to 4.4 × 10−11 mol m−3 d−1 which is only a small fraction of that estimated from the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS) in this region. A diurnal cycle was not observed in the H2S data recorded during this cruise.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/92JD00451/abstract


The equator's readings in 1990 is a far cry from the arctic's readings in March, 2015.....


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Atmospheric H2S concentrations can and have been measured.  (See below abstract showing regional measurements in Feb-March 1990.) 

Unless Azozeo can provide legitimate scientific  evidence (he knows not what this would mean, sadly) for measured increases for such, such increases are likely to be as a result of his overactive imagination in conjunction with his underactive scientific reasoning.

Anyone who thinks any fire on Earth, especially those near bodies of water, must necessarily be as a result of vast plumes of great concentrations of H2S has not been thinking clearly -- which lack of mental clarity might possibly be a result of sniffing mysterious gases.

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Atmospheric H2S concentrations were measured over the equatorial Pacific on leg 1 of the third Soviet-American Gases and Aerosols (SAGA 3) cruise during February and March 1990. Five N-S transects were made across the equator between Hawaii and American Samoa. The concentrations ranged from below the detection limit of 0.4 ± 0.5 (1 σ) to 14.4 ppt with an average value of 3.6 ± 2.3 ppt (1σ, n = 72). The highest concentrations were found on the easternmost two transects just south of the equator. The average concentration of 3.6 ppt observed on this cruise is the lowest reported value for background atmospheric H2S over the tropical oceans. A lack of correlation between 222Rn and H2S rules out a significant continental source. Model calculations indicate that the oceanic source of H2S in this region is in the range of 9 to 21 × 10−8 mol m−2 d−1. From this flux the concentration of free sulfide (H2S + S= ) in the surface mixed layer of the ocean is estimated to be in the range of 32 to 67 pmol L−1. In the atmosphere the oxidation of H2S produces SO2 at a rate of 2.1 to 4.4 × 10−11 mol m−3 d−1 which is only a small fraction of that estimated from the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS) in this region. A diurnal cycle was not observed in the H2S data recorded during this cruise.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/92JD00451/abstract


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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2015, 03:51:52 PM »


compare average school bus and tractor trailers bursting into flames per day in 1990 and 2015. look also at smoking rates, bans on indoor smoking and regulation of smoke detectors in 1990 vs 2015.

Atmospheric H2S concentrations can and have been measured.  (See below abstract showing regional measurements in Feb-March 1990.) 

Unless Azozeo can provide legitimate scientific  evidence (he knows not what this would mean, sadly) for measured increases for such, such increases are likely to be as a result of his overactive imagination in conjunction with his underactive scientific reasoning.

Anyone who thinks any fire on Earth, especially those near bodies of water, must necessarily be as a result of vast plumes of great concentrations of H2S has not been thinking clearly -- which lack of mental clarity might possibly be a result of sniffing mysterious gases.

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Atmospheric H2S concentrations were measured over the equatorial Pacific on leg 1 of the third Soviet-American Gases and Aerosols (SAGA 3) cruise during February and March 1990. Five N-S transects were made across the equator between Hawaii and American Samoa. The concentrations ranged from below the detection limit of 0.4 ± 0.5 (1 σ) to 14.4 ppt with an average value of 3.6 ± 2.3 ppt (1σ, n = 72). The highest concentrations were found on the easternmost two transects just south of the equator. The average concentration of 3.6 ppt observed on this cruise is the lowest reported value for background atmospheric H2S over the tropical oceans. A lack of correlation between 222Rn and H2S rules out a significant continental source. Model calculations indicate that the oceanic source of H2S in this region is in the range of 9 to 21 × 10−8 mol m−2 d−1. From this flux the concentration of free sulfide (H2S + S= ) in the surface mixed layer of the ocean is estimated to be in the range of 32 to 67 pmol L−1. In the atmosphere the oxidation of H2S produces SO2 at a rate of 2.1 to 4.4 × 10−11 mol m−3 d−1 which is only a small fraction of that estimated from the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS) in this region. A diurnal cycle was not observed in the H2S data recorded during this cruise.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/92JD00451/abstract
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compare average school bus and tractor trailers bursting into flames per day in 1990 and 2015. look also at smoking rates, bans on indoor smoking and regulation of smoke detectors in 1990 vs 2015.

Atmospheric H2S concentrations can and have been measured.  (See below abstract showing regional measurements in Feb-March 1990.) 

Unless Azozeo can provide legitimate scientific  evidence (he knows not what this would mean, sadly) for measured increases for such, such increases are likely to be as a result of his overactive imagination in conjunction with his underactive scientific reasoning.

Anyone who thinks any fire on Earth, especially those near bodies of water, must necessarily be as a result of vast plumes of great concentrations of H2S has not been thinking clearly -- which lack of mental clarity might possibly be a result of sniffing mysterious gases.

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Atmospheric H2S concentrations were measured over the equatorial Pacific on leg 1 of the third Soviet-American Gases and Aerosols (SAGA 3) cruise during February and March 1990. Five N-S transects were made across the equator between Hawaii and American Samoa. The concentrations ranged from below the detection limit of 0.4 ± 0.5 (1 σ) to 14.4 ppt with an average value of 3.6 ± 2.3 ppt (1σ, n = 72). The highest concentrations were found on the easternmost two transects just south of the equator. The average concentration of 3.6 ppt observed on this cruise is the lowest reported value for background atmospheric H2S over the tropical oceans. A lack of correlation between 222Rn and H2S rules out a significant continental source. Model calculations indicate that the oceanic source of H2S in this region is in the range of 9 to 21 × 10−8 mol m−2 d−1. From this flux the concentration of free sulfide (H2S + S= ) in the surface mixed layer of the ocean is estimated to be in the range of 32 to 67 pmol L−1. In the atmosphere the oxidation of H2S produces SO2 at a rate of 2.1 to 4.4 × 10−11 mol m−3 d−1 which is only a small fraction of that estimated from the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS) in this region. A diurnal cycle was not observed in the H2S data recorded during this cruise.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/92JD00451/abstract

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2015, 09:27:33 PM »
What were the H2s concentrations when the 'rotten egg' odor hit Quincy (Massachusetts), and the Inner Harbor in Baltimore (Maryland), and in Jamaica when that cloud of toxic gas of unknown origin cut people down in the streets? Oh, nobody checked. What were the concentrations when that huge cloud hit Moscow in November 2014? How about the cloud that hit Kuwait City in 2012? The amount in Southern California during that stinkfest in 2012, blamed on hydrogen sulfide from the Salton Sea?

See, the problem is this: it bubbles up from the ocean, and a cloud hits the atmosphere. That's what happened in Santa Monica Bay, though they called that a 'naturally occurring methane release'. Yeah, well, people complained of the SULFUR SMELL. Methane is odorless, everyone knows that. So what was that sulfur stink? That was hydrogen sulfide, produced along with methane on the bottom of the sea. When the methane bubbles up like that, so does the hydrogen sulfide that's accumulated.

So the effect is temporary. You can't measure that localized effect by going out into the middle of the Andes and measuring the air (unless a cloud happens to be blowing over the Andes at the time). And it doesn't hang around long. And because it's a heavier-than-air gas, you will NEVER be able to say, 'This is the planet's atmospheric H2S level'. As soon as a bubble pops up and rolls over a city, THAT CITY will have a higher level than areas not being hit by the cloud. And the level will measure differently at 10 feet altitude than 1 inch.

And finally, it adsorbs onto matter, as does methane. Like an invisible gaseous layer of molecules that clings to matter. Then you will measure zero H2S in the air, but nevertheless, if you root around in contaminated garbage, you're still apt to get poisoned and die. Not necessarily garbage either, but car upholstery, fabrics, clothing, wood, leaves, etc. So a cloud blows through at 3 AM while you're asleep. Some adsorbs onto matter, gets into your car upholstery. You go driving, some gets onto your skin and you feel dizzy and lose consciousness while driving, maybe spaz out, maybe start foaming at the mouth, and crash and die.

The good thing is, it doesn't stick around that long, because it's so reactive with so many things. The bad news is, the oceans and seas will keep sending out new clouds. Eventually it'll whither away the ozone layer and anything not already dead by poisoning (air, water, matter), fire, explosions, or biosphere degradation (starvation), will fry by UV. That's what's happened before and that's what's happening again.

You can just pick out one particular aspect of the effects and follow that and you'll see it happen. Homes exploding, for example, or people burning to death in vehicles. Or people having seizures or dying while foaming at the mouth. Or kids under age 10 with no health issues dropping dead. Or planes crashing. Or buses burning. Or major cities being hit by hydrogen sulfide. As time goes on, whichever aspect you follow, you'll be able to see it increasing. You already can, if you're watching.


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