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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2015, 10:52:28 PM »
It's easy getting from Turkey to Greece - Kos is only 5 Km from Turkey, and once registered it is easy to move inside Greece.  Until this week, you could just "walk the line" to Macedonia, but now it is closed by troops.  There must be lots of places where you can sneak across the border though.  Macedonia is the poorest country in Europe.  I hear Albania is very nice at this time of year, and they are Muslim too.

http://www.rt.com/news/313038-migrants-injured-macedonian-border/
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« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2015, 11:59:15 PM »
It's easy getting from Turkey to Greece - Kos is only 5 Km from Turkey, and once registered it is easy to move inside Greece.  Until this week, you could just "walk the line" to Macedonia, but now it is closed by troops.  There must be lots of places where you can sneak across the border though.  Macedonia is the poorest country in Europe.  I hear Albania is very nice at this time of year, and they are Muslim too.

http://www.rt.com/news/313038-migrants-injured-macedonian-border/

I suggest Escape via ultralight aircraft.


Wait for a night with a light tailwind, 15 Gallons should get you 500 miles or so of range.  Only 5 Gallons legal here in the FSoA, but if you are not too bulky yourself you can easily carry that much gas.

You need a salvaged motorcycle engine, welding skills and nylon fabric, and plans you can get off the internet.


For the price they are charging for those overcrowded boat rides, I bet you could build one and fly it out.

If you wanna make a Biz out of it, you get hold of a Float Plane that seats 3 passengers


You could fly the round trip between Izmir and Athens twice a day, taking off and landing from say 2 miles offshore of Athens, with a partner in a speed boat meeting you there.  Charge $1000/seat, $6000 a day income.  Obviously only a small portion of people will have that much money to fork over, but I'm sure there are enough to keep you bizzy.

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The cheapest Low Tech Solution is a Sea Kayak with a sailing rig attached.


You could make any crossing in the Mediterrainean with one of these.  Numerous people have done 1000 mile crossings in them.

One way or the other, people will find ways to make these migrations.  Sadly, even if successful, they won't find things much better on the other side for long.

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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2015, 12:48:40 AM »
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I suggest Escape via ultralight aircraft.

All white Amerikan solutions - good for escaping to Canada for FREE health services perhaps, but hardly applicable to Libya and Syria.
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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2015, 01:03:41 AM »
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I suggest Escape via ultralight aircraft.

All white Amerikan solutions - good for escaping to Canada for FREE health services perhaps, but hardly applicable to Libya and Syria.

They don't have motorcycles in Syria?  Steel Tubing?  Nylon?  Hell, they manufacture clothing on the cheap there.

They can't build Kayaks?

There isn't an Entrepreneur in Italy with a Float Plane?

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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2015, 01:42:28 AM »
They've got WARS going on.  You know, military control, bombs going off, food water and fuel shortages.  You can't just say "Now I think I'll put my home-built aircraft on the back of a truck and take it from the workshop to the airport for a test-fly."

If anyone wanted to fly from Italy to Syria in order to load up on refugees and fly back, they wouldn't be able to do it legally would they?  And if it wasn't legal, it would be people-smuggling, and they wouldn't be insured, so they would be risking the lot.
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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2015, 01:58:18 AM »
They've got WARS going on.  You know, military control, bombs going off, food water and fuel shortages.  You can't just say "Now I think I'll put my home-built aircraft on the back of a truck and take it from the workshop to the airport for a test-fly."

If anyone wanted to fly from Italy to Syria in order to load up on refugees and fly back, they wouldn't be able to do it legally would they?  And if it wasn't legal, it would be people-smuggling, and they wouldn't be insured, so they would be risking the lot.

I never said it wasn't risky. :P

Trying to walk it is pretty risky too.

I like the Kayak the best.  :icon_sunny:

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Re: Czech Government Says Ready to Use Army to Protect Border From Refugees
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2015, 02:24:54 AM »
Good luck to the Czechs trying to stop a Human Wave.

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/czech-government-says-ready-to-use-army-to-protect-border-from-refugees/5470648

One of my best friends has family ties in Slovakia (he met and married his wife there) and this very day is headed there for a three week visit. His nephew, raised in the US, traveled as a teen to Poland, obtained a free university education, and now has become a citizen of Hungary. Before he left, we discussed the intolerable pressures posed by the migrant issues. He promised to bring back some firsthand intel from friends and family.

He was also in the habit of making a side trip to Ukraine. I asked if he was going this time, with the Minsk agreement in tatters and the FSoA hard at work "training" "Ukrainian troops." He was unsure at game time.

Meanwhile, he sent me this. You don't need a word of the language to get a sense of the crowd.

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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2015, 02:41:34 AM »
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I suggest Escape via ultralight aircraft.

All white Amerikan solutions - good for escaping to Canada for FREE health services perhaps, but hardly applicable to Libya and Syria.

Just hire a car. What's the problem?

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Police battle migrants on Macedonia's border with Greece
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2015, 04:48:04 AM »
Tsunami Incoming from Macedonia!

Surly, any Boots on the Ground reports from your friend go up as Feature on the Blog.

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http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-macedonia-greece-migrants-20150821-story.html
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Re: Police battle migrants on Macedonia's border with Greece
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2015, 06:19:08 AM »
Tsunami Incoming from Macedonia!

Surly, any Boots on the Ground reports from your friend go up as Feature on the Blog.

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http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-macedonia-greece-migrants-20150821-story.html

Drone footage shows THOUSANDS of refugees stranded at Macedonian border

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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2015, 07:25:44 AM »
If the refugees get into Macedonia and are headed for the EU, they will go to Serbia and then on to Hungary.  Serbia, which has lots of Serbian refugees in EU who are being sent home, says it won't provide help for other refugees, but won't stop them either.  Hungary has built a wall at the border.  Albanian refugees are also being returned by EU.

Slovenia is also in the Schengen Area.  I have been there when it was in Yugoslavia.  It is adjacent to Italy, Austria and Hungary.  It was very nice (45 years ago), as is all the Croatian coastline down to Dubrovnik.  I don't know how they are treating their refugees, but you couldn't find a better place to live.
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Dresden riots: Protesters attack refugee buses shouting 'foreigners out!
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2015, 04:33:29 PM »
They're Comin' to Germany
They're Comin' to Germany


TODAY!


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dresden-riots-protesters-in-germany-attack-refugee-buses-shouting-foreigners-out-10467287.html
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Re: Dresden riots: Protesters attack refugee buses shouting 'foreigners out!
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2015, 06:52:43 PM »
They're Comin' to Germany
They're Comin' to Germany


TODAY!


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dresden-riots-protesters-in-germany-attack-refugee-buses-shouting-foreigners-out-10467287.html

Too late to bar the door Katy?  :laugh:

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Re: Dresden riots: Protesters attack refugee buses shouting 'foreigners out!
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2015, 08:29:43 PM »
They're Comin' to Germany
They're Comin' to Germany


TODAY!


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dresden-riots-protesters-in-germany-attack-refugee-buses-shouting-foreigners-out-10467287.html

Too late to bar the door Katy?  :laugh:



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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2015, 12:14:45 AM »
John Lounsbury got The Refugee Tsunami up on GEI for Sunday Morning.

Has the Top Feature Spot on the Homepage.

We are going to have a big audience.  :o

Hope the freaking tech works right.

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