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🚢 Mississippi Immigration Raids Net Hundreds Of Workers
« Reply #885 on: August 08, 2019, 12:54:07 AM »
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Two people are taken into custody by ICE agents at a Koch Foods Inc. plant in Morton, Miss., one of seven food processing plants targeted for coordinated raids in the state.
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Federal immigration officials raided several food-processing plants in Mississippi Wednesday and arrested approximately 680 people believed to be working without authorization.

The coordinated raids were conducted by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations "at seven agricultural processing plants across Mississippi," according to an ICE statement. In addition to the arrests, agents also seized company business records.

More than 600 ICE agents were involved in the raids, surrounding the perimeters of the targeted plants to prevent workers, mainly Latino immigrants, from escaping. The actions were centered on plants near Jackson owned by five companies, according to the Associated Press.

One of the plants is owned by Koch Foods Inc., which bills itself as one of the largest poultry processors in the U.S. with more than 13,000 employees. Forbes ranks it as the 135th largest privately held company in the country, with an estimated $3.2 billion in annual revenue, according to Fortune.

Another plant raided Wednesday was in Canton, Miss., and is owned by Peco Foods Inc., based in Tuscaloosa, Ala. It is the 8th largest poultry producer in the U.S., according to the company's website.
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The arrested workers were bused to a local Mississippi National Guard hangar where they were interviewed about their immigration status, including whether they already had deportation orders.

"Today's raids are part of the ongoing war against immigrant families and the communities in which they live," Julia Solórzano, an attorney with the Southern Poverty Law Center, said in an emailed statement. "It is especially sickening that days after immigrants were targeted by a gunman in El Paso, Texas, workers at plants across Mississippi witnessed armed agents descending on their workplace.

"It's also worth noting that immigration agencies that have repeatedly blamed 'over capacity' detention facilities for the horrific treatment of those imprisoned nevertheless detained more than 600 people today," she said.

The size of the raid operation harkens back to 2008 when, under the George W. Bush administration, more than 400 unauthorized workers were arrested in a meatpacking facility in Iowa.
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🚢 ICE: "We're not a Social Services Agency"
« Reply #886 on: August 09, 2019, 03:58:36 PM »
They're not?

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ICE official on children left behind after Mississippi raids: We're 'not a social services agency'
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials fired back at criticism of the agency after it was involved in a raid at a food processing facility in Mississippi where as many as 800 suspected undocumented immigrants were arrested.

An ICE official told NBC News on Friday that the agency is "a law enforcement agency, not a social services agency" after news reports revealed that many children of suspects detained this week were left homeless in the immediate aftermath of the raid, though local media reports indicate that all are now staying with family members.

Still, the official added, the agency took precautions to prevent instances of children being left without legal guardians as much as possible.

The remarks follow comments made by ICE acting Director Matthew Albence to The Washington Post, who said that the raid was conducted in a "textbook" manner.

"This was a textbook operation, carried out in a safe manner, and done securely,” Albence said. “Officers were able to execute these warrants in a safe fashion.”

One ICE official in charge of the agency's New Orleans field office, which led the raids, admitted however that the agency could not guarantee that children would not be left homeless by its law enforcement efforts.

“To be able to tell you, absolutely, there is no single parent, with no one to take care of [a child], I don’t think I can say that,” Jerome Miles told The Washington Post.

The raids have been sharply criticized by activists who argued that the arrest of hundreds of people disrupted the local economy and jeopardized many families.

The Trump administration faced criticism both for its treatment of suspected undocumented immigrants and asylum-seekers as well as the president's own rhetoric aimed at immigrant and minority communities.

“We are deeply concerned that the raids have separated Mississippians’ families, disrupted our local economy, and diverted our state’s limited resources to support Trump’s mass deportation agenda,” ACLU of Mississippi legal director and interim executive director Joshua Tom said in a statement.

“Local law enforcement should refuse to cooperate with the president’s anti-immigrant policies. We stand in solidarity and are committed to help the families harmed,” he added.
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Maybe if they paid workers a little better they could get some locals to pick the crops?  BigAg farmers are upset they don't have enough Slave Labor.  ::)

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Maybe if they paid workers a little better they could get some locals to pick the crops?  BigAg farmers are upset they don't have enough Slave Labor.  ::)

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Slave Labor, you ask? that's what private prisons are for. Cue inmate labor.
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"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?" --Scrooge

Slave Labor, you ask? that's what private prisons are for. Cue inmate labor.

I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think even if they took every last inmate in the CA prisons and put them on Chain Gangs out in the fields that would match up to the output of wetbacks who have been doing that work.  Nationwide, there are 2.4M Farm Workers and 2.3M Prisoners.  Then you have the fact that most of those prisoners have no experience picking strawberries, whereas the migrants generally do.  And then logistically speaking, there is about no way to transport all those prisoners to the fields to pick the crops.

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"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?" --Scrooge

Slave Labor, you ask? that's what private prisons are for. Cue inmate labor.

I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think even if they took every last inmate in the CA prisons and put them on Chain Gangs out in the fields that would match up to the output of wetbacks who have been doing that work.  Nationwide, there are 2.4M Farm Workers and 2.3M Prisoners.  Then you have the fact that most of those prisoners have no experience picking strawberries, whereas the migrants generally do.  And then logistically speaking, there is about no way to transport all those prisoners to the fields to pick the crops.

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I checked the numbers and you are generally right. One source has the # of migrant farm workers at 3 million souls.

Clearly the solution is to create more inmates for slave labor. We'll be criminalizing Antifa by dinnertime, and when we get done re-jiggering the laws we'll lock up every pinko commie in the country and put them to work in agricultural re-education camps. Think Pol Pot here. Where they can sleep adjacent to the fields, guarded by screws and dogs.

Of course, to your point, if inmates are not used to picking berries and general stoop labor, then the crunchy granola types are even less so. Will take a few weeks to whip them into shape.



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"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?" --Scrooge

Slave Labor, you ask? that's what private prisons are for. Cue inmate labor.

I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think even if they took every last inmate in the CA prisons and put them on Chain Gangs out in the fields that would match up to the output of wetbacks who have been doing that work.  Nationwide, there are 2.4M Farm Workers and 2.3M Prisoners.  Then you have the fact that most of those prisoners have no experience picking strawberries, whereas the migrants generally do.  And then logistically speaking, there is about no way to transport all those prisoners to the fields to pick the crops.

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I checked the numbers and you are generally right. One source has the # of migrant farm workers at 3 million souls.

Clearly the solution is to create more inmates for slave labor. We'll be criminalizing Antifa by dinnertime, and when we get done re-jiggering the laws we'll lock up every pinko commie in the country and put them to work in agricultural re-education camps. Think Pol Pot here. Where they can sleep adjacent to the fields, guarded by screws and dogs.

Of course, to your point, if inmates are not used to picking berries and general stoop labor, then the crunchy granola types are even less so. Will take a few weeks to whip them into shape.



"Shakin' it over here, boss..."

It's either that or $12 lettuce.

I looked up the numbers before posting to check it out.

Maybe Elon Musk can invent a self-driving lettuce picking robot?

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Maybe Elon Musk can invent a self-driving lettuce picking robot?

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Maybe Elon Musk can invent a self-driving lettuce picking robot?

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Don't laugh. It could happen.

Actually, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.  It's actually a much easier application than self driving carz.

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Re: The Official Refugee Thread
« Reply #895 on: August 21, 2019, 05:49:43 AM »
Nope. Let the price of food inflate to what it's worth. Maybe we  could then start creating new farmers again. The land used to be the cheap part and the labour was everything. I think the days of the colossal farm are almost over...
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« Reply #896 on: August 21, 2019, 05:57:38 AM »
Nope. Let the price of food inflate to what it's worth. Maybe we  could then start creating new farmers again. The land used to be the cheap part and the labour was everything. I think the days of the colossal farm are almost over...
At least on my good days.

Watch the China Vid I just put up.  The days of colossal EVERYTHING are coming to an end.

However, if you let the price of food inflate upwards that fast, it will put food out of reach financially for too many people, even here in the Land of Good & Plenty, the FSoA.  That begets Food Riots and Revolutions.  See the French Revolution.

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« Reply #897 on: August 21, 2019, 07:05:21 AM »
The largest crop in the US is lawn... home gardens baby.
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« Reply #898 on: August 21, 2019, 12:46:31 PM »
The largest crop in the US is lawn... home gardens baby.

Put those John Deere Lawn Tractors to good use!

Buy at Lowe's though, not Home Depot. lol.



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She sipped coffee, her voice made little ripples in her cup



' How long are we going to wait here



He looked up from his phone



' Don't worry, it is just going to be a bit longer today. The kitchen is short-staffed



' Why's that, how do you know?



' The Guatemalans did not show up for work today and they only have one Mexican



' Oh, that's right. Trump's immigration raids are today. But how do you know they only have one Mexican?



' All the others Mexicans have cleaning services and do yardwork now. Being here a while they know what pays. More lucrative I imagine and ICE does not work nights so much. People are going to leave a floor waxer alone. Guatemalans are still in the kitchen. They are more recent in getting here



' Why did Trump tell everyone about what he was going to do. Has that happened before?



' Separating children in families of refugees has a really long history. The Romans did it to the Visigoths when the Visigoths were driven into the empire by Huns. There were two and a half million Visigoth youth spread across the empire and held hostage, something like that. When the Visigoth uprising started they were all killed



' Stop that. You always do that. I was talking about Trump. Pay attention



' I figure Trump puts the news out to wave his law enforcement finger. They are all criminals don't you know. 'Drug dealers, criminals, rapists' that is what Trump says. Convincing people the raids are going after criminals instead of brown people trying to eat; that is Trump being Trump. Trump with PR smarter than he himself, his trademark



Trump gets pre-approval for his raids by saying he goes after criminals and those who are here illegally, who become criminals by definition. I had a hard time finding any news about how many people are coming across the border a month. All we get is propaganda. Details they do not want us to know. Bloomberg was the worst, total spin and inhumanity.



' Some of them are criminal, they need to go



' About 100,000 a month now. Gangs are rampant in El Salvador and many people from there flee from violence. It is easy to twist all Salvadorians as being violent instead of most being actual victims of violence. Mainstream media does not even need a Trump to do that



' Any group of 100,000 people are going to have some bad eggs. I'd like to have mine. You said Guatemalans



' Yes, most are from Honduras and Guatemala. The area is called the Northern Triangle of Central America. Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. The area is experiencing a horrible drought which has been going on for several years now. It is climate change doing its thing. Most of the refugees from Honduras and Guatemala say they come north because they have nothing to eat. Malnourished with starving kids. Under American law coming here that way is an illegal act. So is talking about climate change



' That is horrible



' Yes it is



 

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