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The Human Extinction Survey
« on: May 16, 2015, 05:22:56 PM »

I will be publishing The Human Extinction Survey tomorrow.

I highly encourage all the Diners to take this survey and drop on your Name or Internet Handle as well, although it is Optional to do so.  I feel we Diners should go on record with our beliefs on this very important topic.  This way the World at Large will know what the position of the Diners is WRT Extinction.

I will publish the results of the Survey after the first 10 responses come in or after 2 weeks, whichever comes first.

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2015, 09:50:24 PM »
OK!

I just tested The Human Extinction Survey by dropping in my own answers to the questions, and it worked GREAT!  I was able to download my responses from WP with no problem.

I am going to PLUG THE LIVING SHIT out of this Survey on every Collapse Website that has not yet banned me.  :icon_sunny:

This should be very interesting.

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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2015, 10:00:05 PM »
Is this survey up already? Where?
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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2015, 10:31:21 PM »
Is this survey up already? Where?

Not up yet.  I'll Publish it when the clock turns over on Server time in CA for my Sunday Brunch article.

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The Human Extinction Survey: Pundit Opinions
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2015, 01:52:42 AM »
I have composed an email that I will send out shortly after I Publish the Survey, in which I invite just about every Pundit I have in my email file address book to drop in his or her thoughts on the topic.

I got just about everybody's Email addy, Orlov, Kunstler, Foss, McPherson, Bardi, Mr. Wizard John Michale Greer... you name the Kollapsnik Pundit, I got the email addy.  LOL.  I also have zillions of email correspondences with just about all of them as well.

Now, as to who will actually RESPOND to the Survey, this I got no idea on at the moment.  However, they all are INVITED to drop on their opinions on this topic.

This is going to be some serious Collapse Fun!  :icon_mrgreen:

T-minus 15 Minutes and Counting to Publication Time...

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The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2015, 02:06:03 AM »


SURVEY SUBMISSIONS TO DATE: 277



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human-extinctionEarly on when I began my journey into the World of Collapse, probably the biggest and most contentious issue that got kicked around on the Collapse forums and blogs was whether the monetary system would collapse in Hyperinflation or Deflation.  In fact here on the Diner itself this remains one of the most popular threads, with more than 30 pages of posts at this point.



Lately however, the Doom community has become more Doomerish, and what is being kicked around now is whether Homo Saps are bound for Extinction, not in some long distant future but in the Near Term.  In fact, some folks like Guy McPherson of Nature Bats Last are predicting this Extinction Level Event will occur as early as 2030, only 15 years down the line from present day.  Obviously, if you are in the process of going Extinct, the monetary issues pale before that one!  LOL.  For the purposes of this survey though, we will consider anything under a Century as "Near Term".



In an effort to get a better clue on what people think will occur here (and WHEN!?) as we move along the Collapse Highway, I worked up a little Survey utilizing yet another of the numerous Plugins I have installed lately to spruce up the Diner before I Buy My Ticket to the Great Beyond TM. :)



Before you take the Main Survey, if you haven't done so already here on the Diner, you may want to place yourself in on our Taxonomy of Doomer Types Survey.  If you have already done this survey before, don't do it again, it will skew the results.  I haven't got a way yet to stop Duplicates out by User.  I don't want to require email addys or any identification for these polls, as I think that would discourage readers from responding to them.



I came up with this taxonomy back in my days Blogging on The Burning Platform with Jim Quinn.  I had just 2 categories for it back then, now I am up to 4 with it.  Here's the old table though for some descriptions.  This goes back to 2011 BTW.






























































Topic




Doom Lite




Full Doom



 Dollar & Monetary System

 We can fix the monetary system and rehabilitate the Dollar if we STOP PRINTING, feed Helicopter Ben to the Lions, Slash Spending, allow TBTF Banks to FAIL, Incarcerate the Criminal Banksters and use Precious Metals to underpin the currency.

 The monetary system cannot be rehabilitated by any means, there will be a complete collapse of ALL Fiat money and financial instruments and commerce will for quite some time be mainly Barter.  PMs will only retain value in areas where there is a surplus of basic commodities.

Inflation, Hyper-Inflation, Deflation, Stagflation, DICK UP YOUR ASSFLATION

WTF CARES ANYMORE?  WE ARE TOAST NO MATTER HOW IT COLLAPSES.

WTF CARES ANYMORE?  WE ARE TOAST NO MATTER HOW IT COLLAPSES.

Energy

To resolve our Energy problems, we must IMMEDIATELY begin building more Nukes, Drill Baby Drill for more Local Oil and build more Hydro Plants and Wind Farms, and eventually pick up the slack from lost energy from Imported Oil sources.

Lost Energy from depleted Oil is Irreplaceable and it is far too late to stop an extensive Power Down throughout society which will halt most of our Transportation methods and bring down the Electrical Grid.  Our only choice is to prepare for a Low Energy footprint in the future.

 Goobermint

 We can fix Da Goobermint if we Vote Out all the scumbag CONgress Critters and replace them with Honest Politicians who cannot be Bought who all demonstrate the Wisdom of the Founding Fathers and abide by the Constitution.  Said new Goobermint will be made much smaller with fewer Regulations and less Taxation, allowing Commerce to revive as the Free Market takes over.

 Da Goobermint is inherently unfixable and corrupt and cannot be rehabilitated via the Ballot Box.  Only a Revolution can remove the current power structure, and the results of a Revolution will likely bring a new Goobermint as bad or WORSE than the current one.  The failure of the monetary sytem and energy systems will eventually render all large scale Goobermints unable to function, with the power vacuum filled by local Warlords and Dictators in most places.

Jobs

We must stop the offshoring of Productive Jobs and rebuild our Manufacturing Base in order to build an export based Mercantilist economy with a Trade Surplus.

The Industrial Model is FINISHED, even if we could rebuild Factories here in the FSofA, we wouldn’t have the Oil to run them anyhow, and there won’t be anyone here or abroad who could afford the products we build with them anyhow, because of the upward spiraling cost of energy measured in EROEI.

 Immigration

 We must Seal the Borders and deport all Illegal Aliens and get FSofA Citizens to work at all the scut jobs at below Minimum Wage they currently fill to reduce Unemployment and reduce the liabilities of Aliens who are soaking up free Medical Care in the Emergency Rooms of our Hospitals.

 We can TRY to seal the borders and deport the Illegal Aliens, but they will just be replaced by more home grown Citizens who are falling off the economic cliff and will be just as big a drain on the Medical System.  Besides that, at least on the Border with Mejico,  it will likely create an ever growing Shooting War with a Tsunami of Wetbacks seeking to escape an even worse situation in Mejico.

 Imperialism & Foreign Wars

 We must STOP trying to be the World’s Policeman, bring all our Boys & Girls HOME and reduce the outrageous COST of maintaining the Big Ass Military.

 As soon as we STOP running all our Imperialist adventures, we will basically be CUT OFF from the Foreign Oil still making its way across the Sea Lanes to our Refineries.  We also will crash just about the only type of “productive” thing we build here anymore, which are the Weapons of War and we will bring back a whole new crew of people to put on the Unemployment line.

 Free Shit Army & 30 Blocks of Squalor

 We must end all transfer payments, all Welfare, Social Security and Medicaire which are all unfunded Liabilities we cannot afford.  Former Welfare recipients will be FORCED to go back to work and become Productive Citizens rather than Useless Eaters.  Old Folks will rely on their Savings and their Extended Families to take care of them in their dotage.

 The minute we knock down all these social support mechanisms is the minute we turn into Egypt or Libya or all the rest of the 3rd World countries where the people with Nothing Left to Lose go BERSERK.  We don’t HAVE jobs these people could do, even if they were qualified to do any job, which they are not for the most part.  Most Old Folks have no savings, and the Extended Family died back in the 1950s for the most part.  The Medical Industry as a whole would COLLAPSE without Goobermint input, putting the Doctors, Nurses and Medical Records folks on the UE lines also.


China



 China will succeed long term because they are net creditors, have most of the Industrial infrastructure and have more Science and Math geniuses studying at Elite Universities.

 China is TOAST because of outrageous Population Overshoot, a depleted Water Supply, insufficient arable land and insufficient local supplies of remaining Fossil Fuel energy.


 



FINAL



SOLUTIONS



 Boomers should be EXTERMINATED

 Pigmen should be EXTERMINATED


 



The latest Compact Description of each of the new categories is below, and you can go HERE to take that Survey if you have not done so already.  However, don't navigate away from this page until you take the Survey below, which is much more comprehensive.



Tell Us How you Categorize Yourself



Cornucopian: You believe current problems are temporary and Homo Saps will eventually go Star Trekking


Doomer Lite: You believe we will have a Greater Depression, but eventually rebound from it


Full Doomer: You believe Homo Saps will undergo a massive Population Knockdown but will not go Extinct in this century


Uber Doomer: You believe Homo Saps will be extinct by the end of this century


 


Now, onto the Main Extinction Survey itself!


 


survey-saysAll questions in the Surveyl are Optional to answer, in fact even taking the Poll is Optional!  You're not required to leave any identifying information if you don't want to.


 


It may not appear to you that the form submission worked, because I haven't got the feedback page working yet.  However, trust me it does work! I tested it. I'll publish the Survey results after I get enough reasonably literate responses to it.  If you choose to write a really LONG answer to any question, I highly recommend that you compose it in a Text Editor on your own computer and Save It there before copy/pasting it into the Submit Box and hitting the Submit Button!  Just In Case.


 


There are Text Areas for each question, if you wish to explain your reasoning for your choice.  You are also encouraged to join us in the Diner Forum for discussion of these choices.  You can also use the Blog Commentary below for further discussion and explanation, although that will not go into the Published Survey Results.


 


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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2015, 02:27:03 AM »
NOTE: You CANNOT take the survey here on the Diner Forum!!!!

You must go to the Diner WP Blog to take the Survey!

The Plugins I am using for this do NOT work on SMF!  It was tough enough to make them work on WP!
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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2015, 02:53:39 AM »
NOTE: You CANNOT take the survey here on the Diner Forum!!!!

You must go to the Diner WP Blog to take the Survey!

The Plugins I am using for this do NOT work on SMF!  It was tough enough to make them work on WP!
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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2015, 03:03:12 AM »
NOTE: You CANNOT take the survey here on the Diner Forum!!!!

You must go to the Diner WP Blog to take the Survey!

The Plugins I am using for this do NOT work on SMF!  It was tough enough to make them work on WP!
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I took your grueling survey Chief !
Made it stick too !

I checked, it Loaded!  :icon_sunny:

System works.

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The Human Extinction Survey: In the Year 2525
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2015, 03:21:46 AM »
Just found another Music Vid of 2525 and added it to the survey.  :icon_sunny:

This one is really good.  Got the Matrix in there and everything.

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The Human Extinction Survey: Now #2 on r/collapse
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2015, 04:59:12 AM »
THE HUMAN EXTINCTION SURVEY IS NOW UP TO #2 ON THE COLLAPSE HIT PARADE ON R/COLLAPSE ON REDDIT!  :icon_sunny:

Maybe I will finally get one to GO VIRAL.  :icon_mrgreen:

Hoping still to go to the Great Beyond with a Bang rather than a Whimper.  :icon_sunny:

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The Human Extinction Survey: SURVEY SEZ...
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2015, 05:07:55 AM »
SHIT! The survey is only up a couple of hours, it is still the wee hours in the lower 48 and it already has 7 responses!  With DETAIL too.

This is going to be VERY interesting.

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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2015, 05:26:27 AM »
just took the survey

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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2015, 05:55:26 AM »
Already at the 10 Submission mark.

This is going to be a nightmare to edit and digest for a follow up article ALREADY.

By tomorrow I expect to be SWAMPED.  ::)

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.  :o

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Re: The Human Extinction Survey
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2015, 07:36:22 AM »
JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!

Now up to 18 submissions and I haven't even gone to sleep yet!  This is going to be a fucking NIGHTMARE!  ::)

Currently #3 on r/collapse.

Also, I am getting up an article on NBL promoting the survey.  Guy is all for it.  That should really make it fun.  :icon_mrgreen:

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