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Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« on: June 21, 2015, 09:30:50 PM »
I remember a Jesuit in high school history class telling us the story of Adolf Hitler wanting to be an artist.

Father told us that on two occasions the young Adolf was rejected by schools and told rudely that his work had no merit and he had no talent at all in this area.

He then posed the question or idea of what if the man most consider one of the most evil to have ever existed might have lived a different life had he been shown some Christian  kindness, encouragement, and training in his field of choice.

Who knows, whatever the case I was thinking about this story when reading about some of Hitler's paintings coming up for auction, and thought I would present a few of them on the Diner's new Art Thread. Hardly Monet's or Sisley's, but perhaps they show a different side to the dreaded Fuhrer we are all accustomed too.

                                       
                                 




                                 
 



                               




                               



                                                       







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Re: Re: NEW DINER ART & PHOTOGRAPHY FORUM- Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 09:38:32 PM »
It's possible. I know Hitler was a vegetarian and he was scrupulously kind to animals. He abhorred hunting and often said so.

If a cat can look like him, he must not have been all bad (this is NOT photo shopped - That cat actually has those markings).



Hitler shows kindness to a German Sheperd


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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 04:03:59 AM »
I split off Herr Hitler's Paintings to their own thread.

He actually wasn't too bad as a painter.

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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2015, 04:21:45 AM »
I split off Herr Hitler's Paintings to their own thread.

He actually wasn't too bad as a painter.

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I thought the same RE, that is only a small sample of his works.

They are not the works of a master artist in my view, but pretty decent for an amateur.

Art experts scoff at his works, but it's just their opinion no matter how smart they sound with their techno lingo.

Diner  Trivia :   John Denver the singer and James A. Michener the famous author were almost universally considered by the LEARNED amongst us to be creators of mundane talentless works.  Surprising I know, but true. Their world wide popularity is in great disagreement with those whom tell us what is good and not so good. 

                                                         
          


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John Denver, James Michener & Peter, Paul & Mary
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2015, 04:47:30 AM »

Diner  Trivia :   John Denver the singer and James A. Michener the famous author were almost universally considered by the LEARNED amongst us to be creators of mundane talentless works.  Surprising I know, but true. Their world wide popularity is in great disagreement with those whom tell us what is good and not so good. 

Can't say I was a huge fan of John Denver, but he did write two really GR8 songs IMHO, Leaving on a Jet Plane (made most famous by Peter, Paul & Mary) and Country Roads.

Here's John singing together with P, P & M in one of the few times they performed this song together with him:

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Here's Country Roads with some beautiful scenery and photography:

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As for James Michener, I liked Hawaii, but Alaska was a bore.  I tried reading it as I was flying up here and only made it through around 100 pages before I quit on it.

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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 01:34:55 PM »
"Caribbean"  is a fine book, and full of well researched historical facts. I have a signed copy, autographed while  Michener was in Virgin Gorda. It's a great companion piece to read along with Herman Wouk's "Don't Stop the Carnival", which is my other favorite fiction book about the Caribbean. (I have a copy of that one HW signed to his brother and sister-in-law.)

"The Drifters", too, was a nice book that captured the zeitgeist of the Viet Nam generation. Remember Little Casino and Big Casino?

As GO knows, I'm sure, Michener was himself a big art collector, and owned scads of 60's era abstract expressionism. Austin was Michener's last real home, and many of those pieces are in the local art museum at UT.

They mostly suck.

In contrast, Michener's work gets better with age.
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 01:38:28 PM »
Hitler was like most people I've observed in undergraduate art school today. They can copy anything, but the real creative process eludes them.
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2015, 02:23:29 PM »
Critics are only as good & useful  as their handlers
allow them to be. Just another front man schtick.
Thanks for sharing Ox. I wasn't aware that Der Fuhrer
had creative juices. Would be interesting to see what
his artwork turned into during his later years in Argentina.
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 02:29:25 PM »
Hitler was like most people I've observed in undergraduate art school today. They can copy anything, but the real creative process eludes them.

this suggests to me that doomers are realists as i agree that can be the case,  but most people dont see that because u can approximate a photo u may as well just take a photo. I took art in school right tbrough yr 12 at the behest of the art teachers when i wasnt interested myself.  she thought i had talent that shouldnt be wasted but i knew all i could do was copy things in 2D or 3D. I remember in junior high throwing my clay at the ceiling fans or flicking paint at my friends  to get thrown out but that just made her cry and myself feel guilty. in the final year the work required was triple that of any other subject needing to learn the history and theory and have a display of about 5 works which really pissed me off. I never drew a picture let alone paint anything after that, and only once or twice carved a figure out of firewood when there was nothing else to do around a campfire.

John denvers "leaving ona jet plane" and "country road" are very forgettable and simple. Port of amsterdam" otoh.. as good as anything.
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 03:08:06 PM »
John denvers "leaving ona jet plane" and "country road" are very forgettable and simple. Port of amsterdam" otoh.. as good as anything.


However, he was much better at singing about airplanes than he was at flying them.
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 03:50:52 PM »
Diner  Trivia :   John Denver the singer and James A. Michener the famous author were almost universally considered by the LEARNED amongst us to be creators of mundane talentless works.  Surprising I know, but true. Their world wide popularity is in great disagreement with those whom tell us what is good and not so good. 

Sounds like a confusion between quality, and popularity?
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 07:09:43 PM »
Diner  Trivia :   John Denver the singer and James A. Michener the famous author were almost universally considered by the LEARNED amongst us to be creators of mundane talentless works.  Surprising I know, but true. Their world wide popularity is in great disagreement with those whom tell us what is good and not so good. 

Sounds like a confusion between quality, and popularity?

Hi MKing, Nice to see you back, thought you might have gotten into a high speed motorcycle accident.  :laugh:

Seriously though, your point is valid when viewing art from one perspective; the fact is both gents art works were extremely popular with millions of people, and that makes a statement about them that is very positive. Art can make people think, be uplifted out of the drudgery of every day living, or be just plain entertaining, relaxing and meditative. 

We have proof of their talent here at the diner, where both RE and Eddie chimed in with praise for their favorites of the two. I found myself in agreement as well about Hawaii and the two beautiful songs RE posted. Uncle Bob not very impressed with John Denver, but gives him a passing grade. My point was only a famed critic may scoff at something you find to be quite enjoyable.

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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 07:19:33 PM »
Critics are only as good & useful  as their handlers
allow them to be. Just another front man schtick.
Thanks for sharing Ox. I wasn't aware that Der Fuhrer
had creative juices. Would be interesting to see what
his artwork turned into during his later years in Argentina.

I hear you AZ  ;D ;D :exp-grin:

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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 07:26:17 PM »
GO,  have a listen to "the port of amsterdam" by john denver... i bet u find it Attones for the sappy simple songs lol. We like a lot of the same songs so im curious what u think.
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Re: Art Works of Adolf Hitler
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 07:55:30 PM »
GO,  have a listen to "the port of amsterdam" by john denver... i bet u find it Attones for the sappy simple songs lol. We like a lot of the same songs so im curious what u think.

Sorry Unc, Didn't do too much for me on first listen, kind of very loudly sung I thought with a lack of anything changing, sort of like a monotone rant. My search on the net keeps bringing it up as a David Bowie hit rather than Denver, but I found it.

To be honest I never heard of the song before tonight, and am usually not enamored with a song on first hearing. will give it another shot in the morning with coffee, as you say we usually are on the same brain wave, but have a feeling this is one of our differences of taste.

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