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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2015, 04:50:06 PM »
Entertaining, even satisfying..
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/20/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-comments/index.html

I hope he even goes here...

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/senator-john-mccains-whoops-moment-photographed-chilling-with-isis-chief-al-baghdadi-and-terrorist-muahmmad-noor/
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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2015, 02:14:41 AM »
Entertaining, even satisfying..
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/20/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-comments/index.html

I hope he even goes here...

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/senator-john-mccains-whoops-moment-photographed-chilling-with-isis-chief-al-baghdadi-and-terrorist-muahmmad-noor/

 Wouldn't it have been interesting if Trump had used the images referenced in your letter post as reason why he's not a war hero, saying in effect, "how can somebody be a war hero at the same time they're playing footsie with our declared enemies, with whom were currently at war in the Middle East?"  Then left the room go quiet.

THAT would've been stellar.
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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2015, 05:05:24 PM »
OK, it's a lock.  The Tyler Durdens are PWNED by the Koch Brothers.

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GOP Enters Panic Mode: Des Moines Register Calls For Trump To Withdraw From Presidential Race

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When Donald Trump announced he would give 2016 another try as a republican presidential candidate, the GOP saw him as a mild nuisance. Little did they appreciate just how big of a "nightmare" he would very soon become, a nightmare which now sees the flamboyant billionaire whose self-reported net worth fluctuates daily with a double digit percentage lead over his closest competitor Scott Walker.


But the biggest mistake the GOP did is they inability to comprehend that either the US public enjoys being trolled, or is just so sick of the left/right paradigm, it will gladly latch on to anyone, even the most farcical, self-lampooning candidate, who promises a break from the old routine which has proven not to work for the common American.

The latest confirmation that the Trump "nightmare" is causing not only sleepless nights but also panic attacks for a GOP that is scrambling to respond to the Donald's juggernaut is not only open attempts at caricature, which however merely feed Trump's ego and push him to troll his accusers even more, but to use the influential Des Moines Register, Iowa's largest newspaper and a critical voice when it comes to endorsing, or panning, presidential candidates in this first caucus state, to call on Donald Trump to drop out of the 2016 presidential race.

Officially the Register's position was simply in escalation to the furor over the real estate magnate's weekend comments about Sen. John McCain's service during the Vietnam War. As Fox reports, in an editorial piece published late Monday, the Register said Trump's comments were "not merely offensive, they were disgraceful. So much so, in fact, that they threaten to derail not just his campaign, but the manner in which we choose our nominees for president."

    The paper, the most influential in the first-in-the-nation caucus state, went on to say that if "[Trump] had not already disqualified himself through his attempts to demonize immigrants as rapists and drug dealers, he certainly did so by questioning [McCain's] war record."

Unofficially, it is called throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Following this weekend's firestorm, Trump - who clearly enjoys playing the starring role in every social scandal - appeared to back off some of his comments Monday, telling Fox News' Bill O'Reilly that "if there was a misunderstanding, I would totally take that back." However, Trump also said he "used to like [McCain] a lot. I supported him ... but I would love to see him do a much better job taking care of the veterans."

Whether Trump's apology is sincere or not, the nationwide response he got for his comments, coupled with his popularity surge, will merely encourage him. And since for the real estate magnate, advertising is everything, the fact that he has become the only topic of discussion, whether at the water cooler or during the prime time news circuit, expect the Trump-eting to continue to whatever bitter end is in store.

    The Register, which broke a 40-year run of backing Democrats in presidential elections by endorsing Mitt Romney in 2012, was the latest voice to pile on Trump for his comments, joining veterans groups, Republican colleagues and President Obama's spokesman, who defended McCain and called on Trump to apologize.

     

    Paul Rieckhoff, founder of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, said Monday that Trump's "asinine comments" were "an insult to everyone who has ever worn the uniform ó and to all Americans."

     

    White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said veterans "are entitled to an apology."

The bottom line is that the GOP did not take Trump seriously, which is precisely what he wanted. And now that underestimation is costing the GOP dearly, as it scrambles with damage control which merely adds insult to injury, because conventional retaliation that may have worked with any other candidate simply strengthens Trump.

Then again, considering America's artificially polarizing left/right model - all of it controlled by unelected corporations and bailed out Wall Street banks - has failed, and a vote for Trump is not "a vote for Trump" but a vote against America's broken political system, perhaps it is the case that the president the US truly needs, and the one person the American electorate will select, is this guy.



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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2015, 05:22:59 PM »
I wouldn't buy a used car from Donald Trump. The fact that he's leading the polls should be extremely disturbing to anyone with a brain.

I think it's a case of Reality TV overcoming reality.

Good thing nobody from Duck Dynasty is running.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2015, 05:33:26 PM »
I wouldn't buy a used car from Donald Trump. The fact that he's leading the polls should be extremely disturbing to anyone with a brain.

I think it's a case of Reality TV overcoming reality.

Good thing nobody from Duck Dynasty is running.

Personally, I don't think he really IS "leading the polls".  I think these polls are manufactured data for the purpose of influencing the voters down the line.

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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2015, 05:42:35 PM »
Not my point. Industrialists can declare "bankruptcy" and get well. Not so nations, especially those with nukes.
Hmmm.... how's your knowledge of the recent history of Russia?
Just fine. What's your point?

My point was that the Haircut can game the system in the FSoA and get well. Thinking he would have trouble doing tht via a vis the BRICS.
I was just wondering whether you were unaware that Russia very much did "declare bankruptcy" about 20 years ago or whether you still considered them still unwell.

I think Trump is extremely well qualified to be the last president of the United States.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2015, 06:06:34 PM »
I wouldn't buy a used car from Donald Trump. The fact that he's leading the polls should be extremely disturbing to anyone with a brain.

No different than some Ivy League trained lawyer without a seconds practical work experience. All of the people we elect tend to have this problem, the "if I want the job I should obviously be disqualified" problem, those who want this kind of work aren't ever the ones you want doing it.

Hillary is no different.

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I think it's a case of Reality TV overcoming reality.

Good thing nobody from Duck Dynasty is running.

Why? They tend to be honest, to a fault and to their own detriment I might add, in a world where a premium is placed on political correct phrases and words, would probably do what they said they were going to do, know how to run a business and make a profit, sounds to me like they are far more qualified then all of the declared candidates so far.

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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2015, 06:36:46 PM »
sounds to me like they are far more qualified then all of the declared candidates so far.


To re-establish the Confederacy, possibly. Actually they're all a confederacy of dunces.

My take on the candidates so far:

Walker. .....Will impose austerity. Will impose Christian repression of some kind.

Trump.....Will cause thermonuclear war while practicing trickle-down economics on a scale grander than ever.

Bush.....Will practice trickle-down economics and raise taxes. While not causing thermonuclear war directly, might still engage in it.

Cruz...I am more conservative than Margaret Thatcher  and more Christian than Jesus. Did you know I went to Liberty University?

Hillary..... I've worked for this and schemed for this for so many years. I will NOT be denied. Write a check for my foundation.

Bernie... I'm just a populist socialist who used to make a living suing doctors.

Perry....good hair, and now with glasses.

Lindsey Graham....He should just come out as gay and court the liberal vote.





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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2015, 06:50:49 PM »
sounds to me like they are far more qualified then all of the declared candidates so far.


To re-establish the Confederacy, possibly. Actually they're all a confederacy of dunces.

My take on the candidates so far:

Walker. .....Will impose austerity. Will impose Christian repression of some kind.

Trump.....Will cause thermonuclear war while practicing trickle-down economics on a scale grander than ever.

Bush.....Will practice trickle-down economics and raise taxes. While not causing thermonuclear war directly, might still engage in it.

Cruz...I am more conservative than Margaret Thatcher  and more Christian than Jesus. Did you know I went to Liberty University?

Hillary..... I've worked for this and schemed for this for so many years. I will NOT be denied. Write a check for my foundation.

Bernie... I'm just a populist socialist who used to make a living suing doctors.

Perry....good hair, and now with glasses.

Lindsey Graham....He should just come out as gay and court the liberal vote.

How about Liz Warren?  Yea, I know she says she is not running, but what is your take on Liz if she gets drafted for the job?

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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2015, 07:18:59 PM »
sounds to me like they are far more qualified then all of the declared candidates so far.


To re-establish the Confederacy, possibly. Actually they're all a confederacy of dunces.

My take on the candidates so far:

Walker. .....Will impose austerity. Will impose Christian repression of some kind.

Trump.....Will cause thermonuclear war while practicing trickle-down economics on a scale grander than ever.

Bush.....Will practice trickle-down economics and raise taxes. While not causing thermonuclear war directly, might still engage in it.

Cruz...I am more conservative than Margaret Thatcher  and more Christian than Jesus. Did you know I went to Liberty University?

Hillary..... I've worked for this and schemed for this for so many years. I will NOT be denied. Write a check for my foundation.

Bernie... I'm just a populist socialist who used to make a living suing doctors.

Perry....good hair, and now with glasses.

Lindsey Graham....He should just come out as gay and court the liberal vote.

i dont know most of them.. but imagine u are being polled and must make a choice. ?
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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 05:10:46 AM »
It's all just a floor show. Puppet's on a string.
Most folks are just puppy dogs following their
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Re: Trumpism: The Ideology
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2015, 06:05:55 AM »
sounds to me like they are far more qualified then all of the declared candidates so far.


To re-establish the Confederacy, possibly. Actually they're all a confederacy of dunces.

My take on the candidates so far:

Walker. .....Will impose austerity. Will impose Christian repression of some kind.

Trump.....Will cause thermonuclear war while practicing trickle-down economics on a scale grander than ever.

Bush.....Will practice trickle-down economics and raise taxes. While not causing thermonuclear war directly, might still engage in it.

Cruz...I am more conservative than Margaret Thatcher  and more Christian than Jesus. Did you know I went to Liberty University?

Hillary..... I've worked for this and schemed for this for so many years. I will NOT be denied. Write a check for my foundation.

Bernie... I'm just a populist socialist who used to make a living suing doctors.

Perry....good hair, and now with glasses.

Lindsey Graham....He should just come out as gay and court the liberal vote.

Which is why I don't waste my time voting. 

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2015, 06:19:04 AM »
How about Liz Warren?  Yea, I know she says she is not running, but what is your take on Liz if she gets drafted for the job?

Her core values line up with my own better than any of the current declared candidates.

She has shown some sign of being willing to rein in the banks. This would be major, but it's unclear to me whether she could really do anything against interests that are so entrenched in the executive branch. Goldman owns the post of Treasury Secretary. They would most likely try to ambush her.

Her credentials still make her a quintessential MA liberal, and I think she'd try to get more gun control laws on the books, something I'd prefer not to see.

If Obamacare keeps getting worse in terms of affordability, maybe she could get single-payer healthcare back in the discussion. We have to go there, or watch healthcare continue to really go in the toilet, imho.

Pro-choice. I support this.

I expect she'd trot out the usual Demo tax-the-rich (aka anybody who makes more than 100k) bullshit.

She appears to have some concern about the lives of ordinary people, and isn't a complete tool of the corporates, at least she manages to downplay her dependence on their money.

What money is behind her? I don't know.
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2015, 06:50:49 AM »
What money is behind her? I don't know.

Trial lawyers, looks like.
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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2015, 06:52:47 AM »
How about Liz Warren?  Yea, I know she says she is not running, but what is your take on Liz if she gets drafted for the job?

Her core values line up with my own better than any of the current declared candidates.

She has shown some sign of being willing to rein in the banks. This would be major, but it's unclear to me whether she could really do anything against interests that are so entrenched in the executive branch. Goldman owns the post of Treasury Secretary. They would most likely try to ambush her.

Her credentials still make her a quintessential MA liberal, and I think she'd try to get more gun control laws on the books, something I'd prefer not to see.

If Obamacare keeps getting worse in terms of affordability, maybe she could get single-payer healthcare back in the discussion. We have to go there, or watch healthcare continue to really go in the toilet, imho.

Pro-choice. I support this.

I expect she'd trot out the usual Demo tax-the-rich (aka anybody who makes more than 100k) bullshit.

She appears to have some concern about the lives of ordinary people, and isn't a complete tool of the corporates, at least she manages to downplay her dependence on their money.

What money is behind her? I don't know.

For myself, based on what I know so far about Liz, I would support her candidacy above any of the other ones currently with their hats in the ring.

I still would not vote for her though, because it is a waste of time.

Even if she got elected, she could not make a dent in control structure, and also nothing she could do will change the reality of resource depletion and population overshoot.  These two problems will make anything the Federal Goobemint does almost irrelevant.

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