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Murray Energy CEO, Robert Murray:
Our cause is right. It is right for the coal industry and our communities and America.

Yay, go the coal industry and our communities and America !
Er, no - the coal industry HAS TO be wound back to save the planet.  That is going to be painful for industry bosses like Murray, and the workers who dig the stuff up for him, and the communities they live in.  But if successful, it will eventually be great for America, and (imagine the thought) the unexceptional REST OF THE WORLD too.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-03/president-obama-explains-how-his-clean-power-plan-does-not-make-him-nations-greatest
President Obama Explains How His "Clean Power Plan" Does Not Make Him "Nation's Greatest Destroyer"
Tyler Durden
8/03/2015

Ironically on the day when another coal company collapses into bankruptcy, President Obama begins the pitch for his "Clean Power Plan" which Murray Energy CEO Robert Murray described as "biazrre", blames for the collapse in the coal industry, and has now filed five federal lawsuits against the president who Murray believes is "the nation's greatest destroyer."

As we previously noted, The President, you see, is on a "bizarre personal and political" quest to destroy not only the coal industry, but the entire country and according to Murray, "radical environmentalists, liberal elitists, [and] Hollywood characters" arenít doing anything to help the situation.

And make no mistake, this isnít about money for Murray, this is all about the people. "Mr. Obama's actions are a human issue to me, as I know the names of many of the Americans whose jobs and family livelihoods are being destroyed," Murray said, adding that "these Americans are my employees."

Or at least they were his employees. Murray laid off 21% of his company back in May, with the majority of the cuts coming in West Virginia, which is staring down a $195 million budget gap thanks to the slide in coal prices.

Murray believes these job cuts are the fault of the Obama administration and, thankfully, heís got some concrete arguments to support his contention that the President is colluding with Hollywood characters and certain "contributors" in an effort to "get control of the availability, reliability and cost of electricity."

from SNL:

    [Murray] said President Barack Obama's administration has issued regulations that illegally bypass the states and their utility commissions, the U.S. Congress and the Constitution in favor of putting the U.S. EPA in charge of the nation's electric grid. Murray, speaking at a Republican gathering at the July 22 Lincoln Day Dinner, touted his company's four lawsuits being brought against the administration's Clean Power Plan, an effort to rein in carbon dioxide emissions.

    Murray continued, saying that the coal workers affected by Obama's policies are among the highest paid in the regions where they live, but also have no one to sell their homes to when they lose their jobs.

    "Thus, these people are prohibited from working and fall to the negative side of the economic ledger for the rest of their lives," Murray said. "This is not the America that I have always cherished. Well, I am obviously not giving up. Nor should you. We have the law, science, economics, cold hard energy facts and the Constitution on our side. Our cause is right. It is right for the coal industry and our communities and America. Ö We must continue to do whatever we can to overcome the insanity of our current government."

Murray goes on to say that the scope of EPA guidelines on coal boarders on the absurd. In support of this contention, he cites the fact that the agency's regulations are 38 times longer than the universally accepted standard for modern enviornmental law - the Bible: "EPA regulations alone total 25 million words, 38 times more than those in the holy Bible."
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Re: Obama Explains "Clean Power Plan" Does Not Make Him "Nation's Destroyer"
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2015, 10:43:29 AM »
There are many ways to slice this but lets list a few

1) clean and affordable
2) clean and not affordable
3) dirty and affordable
4) dirty and not affordable

The US needs a great deal of energy. The sum of 1 and 3 must be large. The president is killing coal 3. The question is do we have enough of 1?

I believe the politicians willfully do not want to know that RE is too expensive. They cover their ears and eyes and are happy that clean solar (PV and wind) will fix all.

[sarc on] Crazy bloggers out to destroy America cast fear uncertainty and doubt saying RE is triple the cost and requires massive physical resource investment that may be impossible. see www.thecostofenergy.net [sarc off]

Other blogger say 10 times more expensive and beyond the resources of society.

It is over population and resource depletion that are the common enemy.

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Re: Obama Explains "Clean Power Plan" Does Not Make Him "Nation's Destroyer"
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2015, 11:08:37 AM »
Prediction: You heard it from me first.

Within a very few years, the government will offer guaranteed price supports to oil companies to keep them drilling.

They (congress, the prez) will raise the tax on gas at the pump high enough to discourage driving. This will work to reduce CO2 substantially, but people will not like it and there will be blow-back aplenty.

All that is too little too late, and for the reasons you mentioned.

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Re: Obama Explains "Clean Power Plan" Does Not Make Him "Nation's Destroyer"
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2015, 01:49:04 PM »
Prediction: You heard it from me first.

Within a very few years, the government will offer guaranteed price supports to oil companies to keep them drilling.

They (congress, the prez) will raise the tax on gas at the pump high enough to discourage driving. This will work to reduce CO2 substantially, but people will not like it and there will be blow-back aplenty.

All that is too little too late, and for the reasons you mentioned.

Yes, we heard it from you first but you are not the first to think it and I doubt I am too.  The subsidies and new pump taxes to pay for them will be sold to the public as a patriotic austerity program though not in those words. 

Of course the austerity will not extend to the eight figure incomes of upper management in charge of running the companies looking for oil should it be found.  It will be a case of the public subsidizing risk but not benifiting from profits when they are made.  All we have to do is look at the history of the Wall Street bailouts to know how it will go down.

If you can claim you are looking for oil while you drill out cavities more power to you.  Nobody here will complain if you get a piece of the action.  Since crisis is opportunity for politicians you might as well try and get a piece of the pie.
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