AuthorTopic: New Collapse Survey: Best Collapse Survival Locations & World's Worst City Survey Results  (Read 1675 times)

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Published on the Doomstead Diner on August 11, 2015



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Discuss these results at the Surveys Table inside the Diner



Last week we surveyed the KollapsniksTM on where the WORST places to be as Collapse moves around the Globe.  Results for last week's survey are down at the bottom of this page.



For this week we look at choices for the BEST place to park yourself would be.



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For last week's survey, once again there were some surprising results..



Not too surprising was Las Vegas was ranked worst, because most respondents come from the FSoA and they are mostly Kollapsniks well aware of the water problems in Vegas.



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However, Sao Paolo has worse water problems already, but was ranked 3rd below Mexico City.  I also found it surprising New York Shity was ranked above Phoenix as worse.  Phoenix has the same water problem as Vegas, NY still has decent water supply.  Also, as center of Finance, the economy in NY still is kind of functioning.



It's also hard to imagine how Baghdad can be ranked less worse than NY?  It's a fucking war zoe already AND a desert!



My guess here is the survey respondents stopped after making acouple of selections because it is too long.   Future Surveys will have fewer choices.



World's Worst Cities Survey Results:


































































































































































































































































































































































































 

1

2

3

4

Standard Deviation

Responses

Weighted Average

Las Vegas

4

(12.12%)


2

(6.06%)


1

(3.03%)


2

(6.06%)


1.04

33

9.76 / 36

Mexico City

1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


1.48

33

10.15 / 36

Sao Paolo

1

(3.03%)


2

(6.06%)


3

(9.09%)


0

(0%)


1.3

33

10.39 / 36

Los Angeles

1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


3

(9.09%)


1

(3.03%)


1.14

33

10.91 / 36

Beijing

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1.34

33

11.18 / 36

New York

8

(24.24%)


0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


0

(0%)


1.46

33

12.48 / 36

Phoenix

1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


0.98

33

12.52 / 36

Delhi

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


3

(9.09%)


1

(3.03%)


1.11

33

13.48 / 36

Chicago

1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


0.95

33

14 / 36

Rio de Janeiro

1

(3.03%)


2

(6.06%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1.14

33

14.7 / 36

Baghdad

10

(30.3%)


0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


2

(6.06%)


2.07

33

14.7 / 36

London

0

(0%)


5

(15.15%)


0

(0%)


3

(9.09%)


1.14

33

14.82 / 36

Moscow

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


3

(9.09%)


0.92

33

15.33 / 36

Calcutta

2

(6.06%)


4

(12.12%)


1

(3.03%)


2

(6.06%)


1.28

33

15.85 / 36

Houston

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


1

(3.03%)


1.23

33

15.88 / 36

Singapore

1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


0.92

33

16.36 / 36

Riyadh

1

(3.03%)


5

(15.15%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1.57

33

17.3 / 36

Berlin

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


3

(9.09%)


3

(9.09%)


0.98

33

17.67 / 36

Miami

0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1.32

33

18.09 / 36

Dallas/Ft. Worth

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


1.42

33

18.3 / 36

Tokyo

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.11

33

19.36 / 36

Detroit

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


2

(6.06%)


0

(0%)


1.32

33

20.76 / 36

Nairobi

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1.36

33

20.79 / 36

Tel Aviv

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1.34

33

20.94 / 36

Delhi

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


4

(12.12%)


1.28

33

21.03 / 36

Tehran

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


1

(3.03%)


1.34

33

21.24 / 36

Sydney

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.14

33

21.97 / 36

Athens

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.4

33

22.36 / 36

Madrid

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.59

33

24.21 / 36

Paris

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.4

33

24.67 / 36

Caracas

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


1.55

33

25.24 / 36

Buenos Aires

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1.62

33

26.06 / 36

Wellington/Christchurch

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


1.55

33

26.27 / 36

Lisbon

0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.52

33

27.3 / 36

Helsinki

0

(0%)


1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


1.74

33

28.82 / 36

Honolulu

1

(3.03%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


0

(0%)


2.51

33

31.09 / 36


 


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Decisions, decisions.

Most of us are more or less stuck where we are, unless we lack ties to work, family, etc., so it's a fantasy list anyway, but I have some preferences....

Getting away from precise destinations, I'd say the criteria are:

Somewhere that might be thought of as a bit colder than average.

Somewhere with above average rainfall.

Somewhere rural.

Somewhere with arable land, but with broken terrain.

Somewhere where English is the primary language.


Nunavut and Siberia are a bit extreme. Alaska would be okay, but not the Frozen North.

New Zealand is fine, but my instincts are to not follow the herd there.

The usual suggested bugout destinations of Eastern WA and ID aren't off the list.

Canada is interesting, because it meets all the criteria, and I like it because it's a country with relatively few people, and you can travel there with no visa (from here).

I could live on a boat, but I'd want to have close ties to people  and farmland. Rather than being a sea gypsy, I'd  rather be a sea captain, who provides transportation of people and stuff, in and out of remote anchorages. Sounds like fun.



What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well.

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If you remember, Ray suggested here at one time that I should be prepared to steal a boat if I needed to bug out.

Well...you know, they have that restored lumber schooner floating at the dock at the Maritime Museum in San Francisco...:) You probably know the one.




Now if I could figure out a way to get out into the bay with no engine...

Not sure I ever saw any sails when I toured that baby. They probably have them in dry storage...Hmmm.

Going to practice saying Arrrrgh! now.
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Somewhere that might be thought of as a bit colder than average.
Erie, PA battles with Buffalo, NY for snowiest city in America.
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Somewhere with above average rainfall.
Does snow count?  Edinboro, PA averages over 120 inches.
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Somewhere rural.
When I had a job interview at a state park in Greene county, PA, I had to drive 30 minutes to get a cell phone signal.
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Somewhere with arable land, but with broken terrain.
Allegheny Mountains definitely qualify on both counts.
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Somewhere where English is the primary language.
Well, you can't have everything.....  :P
Making pigs fly is easy... that is, of course, after you have built the catapult....

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Damn Pennsylvania boosters are everywhere. Must all be related to William Penn.

I'd say those old mill towns on the fall line will definitely make a comeback, though.
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Ooops that's not the ship photo I was looking for. That's the Balclutha, a steel hulled square rigger also docked at the Maritime Museum, but not the one I was thinking of. Not a true schooner either, I don't think, but maybe a barquentine. i get those square riggers confused.

Probably not seaworthy, and likely hard aground. Not sure.

http://www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/balclutha.htm

This is the one I'd happily captain, if I could. Fully restored less than ten years ago, too.



The C.A. Thayer

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Underway to Alaska 103 years ago. Time flies when you're having fun.



She sailed with four seamen, two mates, the Captain and the cook. I'm guessing the Captain and the cook participated when it was necessary to tuck in a quick reef.

I hate copyright warnings pasted on to historic photos that should be freely shared. They'll probably sue the Diner, though, sorry.
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Best Collapse Holes Survey currently has 80 kollapsniks respondents!  :icon_sunny:

Results up next Tuesday, so still plenty of time to vote on this one if you have not done so already!

Any guesses on the Top 5?

If you guess all 5 in the correct order you win a Diner Kewpie Doll.



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NYC is being unfairly maligned. It has the Atlantic ocean and the Hudson river and the upstate farm land.

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NYC is being unfairly maligned. It has the Atlantic ocean and the Hudson river and the upstate farm land.

Upstate might do OK, but NYC goes under with just a few feet of Sea Level Rise.

Not to mention all the energy needed to run all those skyscrapers.

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NYC is being unfairly maligned. It has the Atlantic ocean and the Hudson river and the upstate farm land.

Hi EdPell, Pleasure to have you posting, great reading and most informative material.

This statement is something I could not agree more with. Why do folks mostly think NY is the city?

Spent a week in upstate New York with an army buddy when a teen; too gorgeous an area to write about unless your a poet.

Your posting brought back memories of one of my favorite reads when a kid, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Have visions of Ichabod Crane and Brom Bones in my head as I write.

                                                                            Regards and Welcome to the forum,  GO

 

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