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Re: Seastead Porn of the Day
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2015, 05:00:58 PM »
These boats have a good reputation for live-aboarding. I liked it so much I called on it a year ago, before these people bought it. They are asking maybe 20K less than what they paid for it, and they are disclosing what they've found it needing. A good old boat for somebody.

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Note huge galley and all the light below. Would need shutters for offshore.





https://galveston.craigslist.org/boa/5263971624.html
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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2015, 05:10:55 PM »
I prefer something more along these lines, but of course it's all a matter of personal taste.


                                         

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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2015, 05:18:17 PM »
I've seen those boats. some of my friends have found work on them. LOL.

I won't be made dependent on ICE's. Not that I wouldn't consider an upgrade under the right circumstances:



I once intended to sail on this boat. I still might, someday. They used it in the movie about Shackleton. It was for sale the last time I asked.

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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2015, 07:21:48 PM »
I want one of these...


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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2016, 01:26:18 PM »
Nuthin' fancy, but these boats, built in steel, are perhaps the most seaworthy monohull boat ever built.

Bruce Roberts wrote the book and drew the plans for a variety of these, all based on the Spray, Captain Joshua Slocum's famous boat. Slocum was the world's first solo circumnavigator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Slocum




This is a nice one, built by somebody who appears to have known exactly what they were doing. It isn't that old, and for the $20K they're asking, it's dirt cheap. You couldn't build the bare hull for that.

It's a steal, and it's close by here in Texas. Click on the links for more and better pics:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/photo_gallery.jsp?slim=broker&lang=en&ywo=mustangyts&hosturl=mustangyts&units=Feet&id=2920257&back=/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp&boat_id=2920257
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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2016, 01:55:40 PM »
Nuthin' fancy, but these boats, built in steel, are perhaps the most seaworthy monohull boat ever built.

Bruce Roberts wrote the book and drew the plans for a variety of these, all based on the Spray, Captain Joshua Slocum's famous boat. Slocum was the world's first solo circumnavigator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Slocum




This is a nice one, built by somebody who appears to have known exactly what they were doing. It isn't that old, and for the $20K they're asking, it's dirt cheap. You couldn't build the bare hull for that.

It's a steal, and it's close by here in Texas. Click on the links for more and better pics:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/photo_gallery.jsp?slim=broker&lang=en&ywo=mustangyts&hosturl=mustangyts&units=Feet&id=2920257&back=/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp&boat_id=2920257

I'm in for $10K.

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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2016, 02:32:45 PM »
I'm tempted, but I'm still holding off on account of the cost of moorage. If it weren't for that, i'd figure out a way to buy it.
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2016, 03:01:17 PM »
I'm tempted, but I'm still holding off on account of the cost of moorage. If it weren't for that, i'd figure out a way to buy it.

What's the monthly on the moorage?

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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2016, 03:10:44 PM »
For a live-aboard marina, maybe $450.
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2016, 03:23:47 PM »
For a live-aboard marina, maybe $450.

I'll split that with you too until I move aboard, then I'll pick up the whole tab except when you are using it.  I'll house sit for you if just you and the wife wanna go sailing without my cooking. :)

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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2016, 06:33:51 PM »
Get thee behind me, Satan.

No, seriously, it's tempting.
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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2016, 06:37:22 PM »
Get thee behind me, Satan.

No, seriously, it's tempting.

Heh, Heh.   :evil4:

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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2016, 08:51:27 AM »
I'm sure this will really annoy the two of you.... but.... are you familiar with the problem of monster waves on the high seas?  The ones that are 100 feet tall and have a way of sinking large ships?  Jim Hansen and Paul Beckwith have both talked about these things and that they will be come the norm on the open seas in another 30 years putting an end to all ship traffic at sea apart from subs.  Doesn't bode well for seasteading now does it....

Like I said, not a way to win a popularity contest....

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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2016, 09:58:52 AM »
I know about rogue waves, and if I didn't I'd have to read about it here, since AG has put up several articles related to that.

Big waves are a bigger problem in certain susceptible areas, like the North Sea, the Indian Ocean off the coast of Africa, and certain other places. Although they can happen elsewhere, I don't see them as a huge factor for most people living aboard in most places. Living on the water is, in some respects always riskier than living on land, in my opinion.

What bothers me about seasteading is that that it's hard to feed yourself sustainably unless you have a land base too.

I have pretty much decided I'm going to live and die right here. Anything I say or write about Canada or seasteading is by way of discussion. My real efforts are aimed at trying to make my self resilient on my own place, knowing that it will be a challenge going forward.

Glad to hear you managed to sell your place, since I know that's what you thought best. Good luck to you, and good to see you on the forum.

I appreciate your bringing up the downside of whatever scheme we might be talking about. That makes for a much better discussion than someone who just wants to be a cheerleader. I hope you'll always say what's on your mind. And I admire you for having the cuourage of your convictions to actually go where you think you should go and try to do the right things.

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« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2016, 02:14:03 PM »
I'm sure this will really annoy the two of you.... but.... are you familiar with the problem of monster waves on the high seas?  The ones that are 100 feet tall and have a way of sinking large ships?  Jim Hansen and Paul Beckwith have both talked about these things and that they will be come the norm on the open seas in another 30 years putting an end to all ship traffic at sea apart from subs.  Doesn't bode well for seasteading now does it....

Like I said, not a way to win a popularity contest....

Rogue Negative Waves! LOL.

First off, you're not out on the "High Seas" unless you want to be.  You can stick to near coastal sailing and on the East Coast of NA you can go from Nova Scotia to the Florida Keys into the GoM down past the Banana Republics and on to Tierra del Fuego without ever going more than 50 miles offshore.  You're sure to find a decent Bugout cove somewhere along that coastline.  On the West Coast, you can start down in Tierra del Fuego, sail up past Baja CA and up to the Fjords of BC, along the coast of Alaska and then cross the 60 miles of the Bering Straight and coastal sail the entire Eurasian land mass.  When you get down to SE Asia, you can island hop through New Guinea and head for the North coast of Oz.

If you do go Blue Water for a run to Tristan da Cunha, Edinburg of the Seven Seas, you're only doing it once so hopefully you don't roll craps on that particular transit and run into a rogue wave.

If you do, smaller boats actually do better than the big container ships because they tend to bob up and down on the waves like a cork.  If you are susceptible to seasickness though this will be unpleasant, but probably not fatal.  Actually smaller waves in the 30-50' range are more dangerous for a small yacht then a real big rogue wave.  Waves of this size can roll you over or pitch pole the boat, and you can be dismasted.  A really good sailor can usually avoid that fate though, you don't sail directly horizontal to the wave, that's a recipe for a rollover.  You don't sail directly perpendicular either, because if the bow gets buried on the way down, you will pitch pole the boat.  You sail diagonal to the wave and you "surf it".  I did this once with my dad, on the way to Tasmania, it's thrilling.

In the event you do turn the boat over and get dismasted, keel boats right themselves.  This is not usually fatal.  Many sailors make it home after being dismasted by jury rigging a mast and sail and limp on home with the jury rig.

What is fatal for a small boat is to get run aground over an obstacle you didn't know about and get holed, or to get hit by something really big like a whale or a container ship.  Both are more common occurrences than rogue waves.

On land, you have Tornadoes down in tornado alley, you have wildfires, you have earthquakes etc.  Living is a risky bizness no matter where you do it.

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