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Re: Toronto van: Ten dead and 15 injured as pedestrians are hit
« Reply #360 on: May 21, 2018, 02:43:50 PM »

Check this out:

http://haenfler.sites.grinnell.edu/subcultures-and-scenes/incels/

An excerpt:

Feminism has afforded women more rights and agency over the past several decades. However, from feminism’s beginnings, certain groups of men have been arguing that maybe men, not women, are society’s real victims (Gilmore 2001). The men’s rights movement (MRM) is inherently reactionary in nature, arguing concepts like reverse sexism. Men’s rights activists (MRAs) have formed coalitions around issues such as false rape accusations, circumcision, custody battles, and abortion. Historically, MRM has been a relatively fringe movement, but it has proliferated recently due to the Internet’s unprecedented capability to collect like-minded individuals in a forum to discuss their perceived grievances on a large scale. Welcome to the Manosphere, a diffuse online network of blogs, subreddits, Facebook groups, forums, and more dedicated to rejecting feminism in favor of “men’s rights.” Thanks to the Internet, the Manosphere is global, and most members never meet each other, but it is massive and rapidly growing.

The Grinnell study adds that many in the Incel Movement subreddit were also active in alt-right pages such as “The Red Pill,” “Mens Rights” and “Men Going Their Own Way.” A Quartz piece included words such as “femoids” and “Chad” as being part of a new alt-right dictionary. That same article mentions that some on the subreddit referred to Elliot Rodger as “Saint Elliot” because he “martyred” himself for the Incel cause.


It seems the INTERNET is allowing broken people to come together and cultivate their pain and maladjustments together.  One big fucked up family.  It seems 'Incels' nickname everything and everyone so they don't have to take responsibility for anything.


Come on down! Everyone's a victim!!!

All because a handful of right wing snowflakes could't figure out how to get laid.

Now I'm having a deja vu: we've had this conversation before. This is where I make the point about listening and getting to know the girl gets the panties off, and RE replies with his stories of plying ballerinas with coke, and how listening is bullshit, and how women are all bimbos, and how any man who has one is pussy-whipped.

I remember now.

Now we're in re-runs.


Interesting link. Thanks.

As it turns out:

The Texas school rampage came a week after girl rejected suspect, her mom says.


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Sadie Baze says she keeps expecting her daughter to walk into the house, but Shana Fisher was killed Friday, one of 10 people gunned down at her high school.

"She's never going to walk through the front door again," Baze said.

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, had been making advances toward Shana, who just turned 16, for the past four months, asking her to date him.
A week ago, during class, Shana stood up and told Pagourtzis she wouldn't go out with him, the mother said.

He had gone out with her friend previously and so Pagourtzis was 'off limits' to her.  She told him so in public and humiliated him.  By the rules of the sisterhood of course.  Had she wanted too date him she would have asked her friend first or made a new rule workaround instead of most probably using her sisterhood morality as an excuse.

All because a handful of right wing snowflakes could't figure out how to get laid.

As Eddie is adroitly pointing out focusing on the guns is only paying attention to the symptom and not the disease.  Kunstler did a great job doing the same thing today.  So if guns are not new and sex is not new what is the new secret sauce that produces school shootings from the dysfunctional ingredients?

Remembering that criminal activity is often a copycat phenomena.  Crazies on autopilot following a path already laid out.  So it was with skyjackings.  Once the first plane was hijacked dozens followed.  Same things with vans and trucks.  The first truck mass killing was in France and now many others have now followed that example all over the world.  From this point of view focusing on guns is indeed part of the answer.  More than two sides to this coin!

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Re: Toronto van: Ten dead and 15 injured as pedestrians are hit
« Reply #361 on: May 21, 2018, 06:24:24 PM »

Check this out:

http://haenfler.sites.grinnell.edu/subcultures-and-scenes/incels/

//He had gone out with her friend previously and so Pagourtzis was 'off limits' to her.  She told him so in public and humiliated him.  By the rules of the sisterhood of course.  Had she wanted too date him she would have asked her friend first or made a new rule workaround instead of most probably using her sisterhood morality as an excuse.

All because a handful of right wing snowflakes could't figure out how to get laid.

Evan McMullin was on Bill Maher the other night as the conversation turned to these "intel" types who demand the government provide them with women for sex, like so much government cheese. McMullin's prescription for them was to "brush their teeth, put on a clean shirt, and get on out there" like he and every other generation of geeky, pimple faced fuckwits,like him (and me) did back in the day.

The Grinnell site (link above) is a treasure trove of info about this particular dysfunction.

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The men’s rights movement (MRM) is inherently reactionary in nature, arguing concepts like reverse sexism. Men’s rights activists (MRAs) have formed coalitions around issues such as false rape accusations, circumcision, custody battles, and abortion. Historically, MRM has been a relatively fringe movement, but it has proliferated recently due to the Internet’s unprecedented capability to collect like-minded individuals in a forum to discuss their perceived grievances on a large scale. Welcome to the Manosphere, a diffuse online network of blogs, subreddits, Facebook groups, forums, and more dedicated to rejecting feminism in favor of “men’s rights.” Thanks to the Internet, the Manosphere is global, and most members never meet each other, but it is massive and rapidly growing

We live in an age where the aberrant fringe is thrust into the mainstream via the Koch's favorite battering-ram, the Lout-in-Chief. These people want a future that looks like, "The Handmaid's Tale." Not on my watch.
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"Active shooter" at La Plaza Mall in McAllen, Texas, authorities say
« Reply #362 on: July 28, 2018, 11:45:48 AM »
Texas.  Shooter Capital of the World!  How many do you think this one will knock out?

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S News July 28, 2018, 2:32 PM
"Active shooter" at La Plaza Mall in McAllen, Texas, authorities say

Authorities say there is an active shooter at La Plaza Mall in McAllen, Texas.

"Active Shooter at the McAllen Plaza Mall Stay Away from the area! Several law enforcement agencies heading to the scene," Hidalgo County Constable Precinct 4 posted on Facebook.

CBS News affiliate KGBT said officers from the McAllen Police Department and personnel from the Hidalgo County Sheriff's Office and the Texas Department of Public Safety were at the scene.

Videos posted on social media by mall goers showed dozens of people milling around outside the mall as police arrived on the scene.

Several people on twitter reported seeing five men in custody and suggested the incident began as an attempted robbery at a business in the mall. Police have yet to confirm any details of the incident.

This is a developing story and will be updated.
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Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Reply #363 on: July 28, 2018, 02:35:06 PM »
McALLEN, Texas (AP) - Glass cases being smashed during an attempted robbery Saturday at a jewelry store in a popular Texas mall were misconstrued as gunfire and sent people running for the exits, authorities and witnesses said.

All known suspects in the attempted robbery at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen were taken into custody, the city's police chief, Victor Rodriguez, said in a statement that the city government posted on Twitter.

Madeline Madden, a 17-year-old from McAllen, told The Monitor of McAllen that she was inside Glitz and Glamour, a boutique just across from the mall, when she saw people rush out of the mall and into the parking lot.

She said one frightened couple ran into the boutique seeking safety.

http://amp.wsbtv.com/www.wsbtv.com/news/authorities-say-texas-mall-an-active-shooting-scene/800630142

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« Reply #364 on: September 21, 2018, 12:03:29 AM »
A good day to Go Postal apparently.

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https://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2018/09/police_shooting_syracuse_south_side.html

5 victims - including child - reported in Midland Ave. shooting in Syracuse
Updated 7:59 PM; Posted 5:34 PM


Gallery: Shooting with multiple victims on Midland Ave in Syracuse
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By Chris Libonati

clibonati@syracuse.com

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Syracuse, N.Y. --Five people, including a child, have been shot on Midland Avenue Thursday night, according to Syracuse police

Syracuse police shortly after 11 p.m. said that five people including an 8-year-old girl were injured in the shooting at 1315-17 Midland Ave. Police expect victims will survive.

The Syracuse firefighters union and a witness originally reported seven victims including some children were involved.

Police responded to the call at 9:01 p.m., dispatch logs show.

Witnesses said they saw two or three possible shooters. One witness reported at least 10 shots near the house.
As a woman talked to a reporter, she counted off how many victims she knew.

"My daughter, my nephew, my friend, my niece and my other niece," she said, crying.

People had gathered at the house to mark the death of Richard Harris, who died in hospice care of pancreatic cancer, neighbors said.

Tammy Jamison said she was gathered for the memorial when gunshots suddenly broke out.

She didn't see the shooter or shooters but said it was not a drive-by shooting. She heard at least 15 gunshots and tried to take cover inside.

Jamison said the people who had gathered, about 50 of them, ran inside the home for cover.

"When the shooting started I ducked," she said. "What would you do?"

Multiple ambulance crews were called to the scene to take victims to Upstate University Hospital, according to dispatchers. Some left with a police escort by 9:15 p.m.

Syracuse police said they responded to several calls to the 911 center reporting that more than one person was possibly injured.

Upon arrival, officers observed a large crowd of people and located several people who had been shot, police said. Officers at the scene requested additional ambulances and officers respond to the scene.

The injured were transported to Upstate University Hospital,
police said.

Syracuse Mayor Ben Walsh and Syracuse Police Chief Frank Fowler were on the scene after 10 p.m.

The home where the shooting occurred, 1315-17 Midland Ave., is the home where Rashaad Walker Jr.'s family lived, according to witnesses and family members.

Walker, 20-months-old, was fatally shot on the afternoon of Nov. 28, 2010 in the 300 block of Coolidge Avenue.

The toddler was sitting in a car seat in a parked minivan when Saquan Evans, a reputed member of the Bricktown gang, opened fire into the vehicle in what authorities contended was an attempt to kill the child's father, a reputed member of the rival 110 gang.

Evans was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison for second-degree murder plus an additional 15 years for second-degree criminal possession of a weapon.

Outside the home is a 6-foot-tall sign with the boy's photo. On Thursday night, as police roamed around seeking witnesses, candles in front of it were lit.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/aberdeen-shooting-maryland-rite-aid-distribution-center-suspect-snochia-moseley-today-2018-09-20/

 CBS/AP September 20, 2018, 7:07 PM
4 dead, including 26-year-old female suspect, in Maryland shooting


Last Updated Sep 20, 2018 8:50 PM EDT

ABERDEEN, Md. — A woman working a temporary job at a drugstore warehouse in Maryland got into an argument at work Thursday morning and began shooting colleagues, killing three before fatally turning the gun on herself, authorities and witnesses said. The incident took place at the Rite Aid distribution facility in Harford County, Maryland.

Workers at the facility described terrifying moments of "crazy" gunfire and people screaming and running in all directions after the shooting. Others said they helped the wounded, one person tying blood-soaked jeans around a man's injured leg in a bid to stop the bleeding.

The suspect was later identified as a temporary employee at the distribution center, according to Harford County Sheriff Jeffrey R. Gahler. The sheriff's office later identified her in a tweet as Snochia Moseley, 26, from Baltimore County.

"She had reported for her workday as usual, and around 9 a.m. the shooting began, striking victims both outside the business and inside the facility," Gahler said. "We do not at this time have a motive for this senseless crime."

It appears only one weapon, a handgun, was used, and no shots were fired by responding law enforcement officers, Gahler said. The shooter used a 9 mm Glock that was registered in her name, he said. He said authorities don't know her motive. She died at a hospital from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, he said.

Witnesses said they saw multiple police departments and ambulances responding, CBS Baltimore reported. The ATF and FBI also responded.

Krystal Watson, 33, said her husband, Eric, works at the facility and told her told her that the suspect had been arguing with somebody else near a time clock after a "town hall meeting."

"And she went off," she said.

"She didn't have a particular target. She was just shooting," Watson said as she drove away from a fire station where relatives tried to reunite with loved ones.
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Shirley Pollack, of Perryville, Md., reacts to a shooting with multiple victims in Perryman, Md., on Thu., Sept. 20, 2018.
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Colleen Hendrickson lives and works nearby, and she thought it was a normal day while heading to catch the bus and head to work, but then someone warned her there was an active shooting nearby.

"It's mostly warehouses in the area," she said. "It's usually just a really sleepy place."

The attack comes almost three months after a man attacked a newspaper office in Annapolis, Maryland. Five staff members were killed in that shooting. Authorities accused Jarrod W. Ramos of attacking The Capital Gazette because of a longstanding grudge against the paper.

In a tweet, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said his office was monitoring the situation in Aberdeen and that the state stands ready to offer any support. He called it a "horrific shooting."   

Susan Henderson, spokesman for the drugstore chain Rite Aid, said the shooting happened on the campus of a company distribution center in Aberdeen. She described it as a support facility adjacent to a larger building.

Harford County Executive Barry Glassman said that unfortunately, incidents like this are "becoming a too-often occurrence not only in Harford County but in the country."

Walter Zambrano, 64, who described himself as a worker at the distribution center, said he was in the bathroom when shooting broke out and saw nothing as he hid, frightened for his life.

The person was "shooting like crazy," Zambrano said, speaking in Spanish.

He said the gunfire seemed to go on several minutes, and when it was over he sprinted outdoors. On the way out, he said he saw a female co-worker down on the floor. The scene, he said, was one of chaos.

"Everyone was screaming, running this way and that. I didn't know which way to run," he said.

Mike Carre, an employee of a furniture logistics operation next to the distribution center, said he helped tend to a wounded man who came hobbling in, bleeding from his leg. He called 911 from a bathroom before helping colleagues wrap the man's blood-soaked jeans above his injury to cut off blood flow.

Carre said the man told him the shooter "just came in in a bad mood this morning. He said she's usually nice. But today, I guess it wasn't her day. She just came in to pick a fight with someone."

"She pulled out a gun and she just started shooting at her co-workers."

Dominique Norton, 33, of Aberdeen, endured an excruciating wait of nearly two hours to be reunited with her mother, 62-year-old warehouse worker Irene Norton. Dominique Norton said she didn't know that her mother was unharmed until she got off a bus at the fire station and they tearfully embraced.

"I busted out crying. I was relieved and shaken," she said. "I am praying for all of the victims."
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