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Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Reply #135 on: February 23, 2018, 04:55:43 AM »

At some point in this melee the military fractures, just like it did in the original Civil War between North & South.  Robert E. Lee went to West Point of course.  This bizness will not happen over night.  Then you will have .50 cal BMG vs .50 Cal BMG, Jet vs, Jet and Drone vs Drone.  Until all the hardware has been trashed, and the fight goes Mano-a-Mano or using Trebuchets and Atl-Atls.

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I don't think so.

Lee had the sense to know he couldn't trade pawns with the Army of the Potomac, recent victories notwithstanding. The situation on the ground post Chancellorsville, plus Grant's pressure on Vicksburg which was about to cut the Confederacy in two, led to Lee's decision to strike in Pennsylvania. This per Shelby Foote, anyhow.

Tomorrw's Branch Davidians can empty their armories and not come within a rounding error of trading armaments with the Imperial Army. Which is why Palloy is correct: asymmetrical it is.

Oh certainly, asymmetric warfare will be a big part of the action, of this I have no doubt.  But you will also have increasing militia activity at the same time.  It's a numbers issue.  It really depends mainly on how much activity is going on in how many places?  If it's just one small group of fanatics, they are easily wiped out.  If you have this shit ongoing in all the major cities and on the border with Mejico, it's an entirely different story.  Also quite a different story if the military isn't getting paid in working money.

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Too many "ifs" in this scenario.

You have forgotten (or choose to ignore) the vast array of "non-lethal crowd control" weapons the Empire maintains to defend the monied elite and their property. LRADs, laser weapons designed to blind and sicken (the Dazer Laser), the Active Denial System heat ray, taser shotguns, water cannons, biologicals, and a variety of gases. This just scrapes the surface. This is more than enough to keep scummy demanders of public education off the streets.

I am ignoring nothing.  As I said, it's a numbers issue.  They don't have enough LRAD or enough personnel to handle mayhem in every city going on at the same time.

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Disease sets in, & that's that for EVERY CITY in Amerika.
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Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Reply #136 on: February 23, 2018, 05:20:54 AM »

The revolution will last for about 36 hours.  Some dumb ass motherfuckers high on nutmeg, meth, and glue will show up with their shotguns and AR-15's, and they will shoot a cop, or soldier.  Then the next day the Corporatocracy MSM will blast that shit on the idiot screens and on the Swampbook and KnitTwit feeds, and then it will be over.  The revolution will be "televized." 

Highly unlikely it plays out that way.  More likely is you will see increasing violence in the cities, more Fergusons and Baltimores and more Campus Shoot 'em Ups.  This will take months of time, possibly even years, not 36 hours.  Eventually this will reach a critical mass and Da Goobermint will declare Martial Law.  However, they don't currently have enough personnel to enforce Martial Law on a nationwide basis, and the mayhem will continue.  Martial Law of course does not solve the underlying problems of resource depletion and population overshoot.  At this point Da Goobermint will try to conscript up more troops to maintain order, but find itself increasingly unable to pay those troops in any money that works.  At some point thereafter, the military will begin to fracture, with some commanders in some areas taking sides with the people in their locales and trying to organize some means of getting them fed.  Then you end up with a Venezuela like situation with a failed state and many battles taking place all over the place and no functioning central control.  This portion of the Civil War will take years to play out, not 36 hours.

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Yeah, well, thatís just like your opinion man. 

My point is that the first major incident will be squashed mercilessly at some point.  Then the gun nuts will decide that they like tater chips and beer in the little convenience store at the corner more then they like freedumb.

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Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Reply #137 on: February 23, 2018, 08:33:20 AM »

The revolution will last for about 36 hours.  Some dumb ass motherfuckers high on nutmeg, meth, and glue will show up with their shotguns and AR-15's, and they will shoot a cop, or soldier.  Then the next day the Corporatocracy MSM will blast that shit on the idiot screens and on the Swampbook and KnitTwit feeds, and then it will be over.  The revolution will be "televized." 

Highly unlikely it plays out that way.  More likely is you will see increasing violence in the cities, more Fergusons and Baltimores and more Campus Shoot 'em Ups.  This will take months of time, possibly even years, not 36 hours.  Eventually this will reach a critical mass and Da Goobermint will declare Martial Law.  However, they don't currently have enough personnel to enforce Martial Law on a nationwide basis, and the mayhem will continue.  Martial Law of course does not solve the underlying problems of resource depletion and population overshoot.  At this point Da Goobermint will try to conscript up more troops to maintain order, but find itself increasingly unable to pay those troops in any money that works.  At some point thereafter, the military will begin to fracture, with some commanders in some areas taking sides with the people in their locales and trying to organize some means of getting them fed.  Then you end up with a Venezuela like situation with a failed state and many battles taking place all over the place and no functioning central control.  This portion of the Civil War will take years to play out, not 36 hours.

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Yeah, well, thatís just like your opinion man. 

My point is that the first major incident will be squashed mercilessly at some point.  Then the gun nuts will decide that they like tater chips and beer in the little convenience store at the corner more then they like freedumb.

Yes Lebowski, it's my opinion.

It is however an opinion based on the progression of events in other failed or failing states like Somalia, Libya and Venezuela.  Amerika is not exceptional.  We will walk down the same path.

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We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #138 on: February 23, 2018, 09:05:10 AM »
We Only Have One Cop for your school but we have six armed officers who will guard a coward's house 24x7 so he doesn't have to answer questions from the media

    We sent @BrianEntin to BSO Deputy Scot Petersonís Boynton Beach home to try and talk to him about his resignation today. Were met by 6 @PBCountySheriff deputies standing guard outside his home. They prevented us from approaching the house. pic.twitter.com/1QPlmeHtqb

So, students and parents at Parkland, along with anyone else, let's see if I get this right.

This specific officer knew about Cruz's intentions as he was alerted about a prior call to the Sheriff's Office stating that Cruz intended to shoot up a school -- in 2016.  He did nothing.

When Cruz did shoot up the school said officer cowered outside, despite being armed and able to offer effective resistance to the attack.  He sat outside hiding for four minutes while Cruz slaughtered the kids inside, hearing not only the gunshots but, I'm sure, the screams.

When suspended he retired and is going to be allowed to draw his pension instead of being criminally charged and forfeiting his pension and retirement benefits, despite the proximate cause of his "retirement" being an attempt to evade an investigation of his conduct.

And now, having done all this, the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office (and the Broward Sheriff's Office) can find only one cop with a gun for a school but six cops with guns to stand guard over this assclown's house and barricade it against anyone approaching it or him.

Oh, and not barricade it just against people with weapons who intend to do him harm either -- they have also barricaded it against a news crew armed only with cameras so this ******* doesn't have to actually face the public about his outrageous conduct.

This is no longer about just Broward County's sheriff office -- it now extends to Palm Beach as well as they have willfully and intentionally joined the cowards and intentional misconduct of both the FBI and Broward County.

Tell me, parents and students, when you're going to recognize that those 17 people are dead because of direct, intentional malfeasance and willful misconduct by the police.

And finally, next question: Are you going to obey any "gun law", now or ever in the future, when it's clear that the only person who will protect you and your children is..... you?


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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #139 on: February 23, 2018, 09:12:59 AM »
As mentioned previously, this is scapegoating.  The cop was following protocol and standard operating proceedure for police to wait for backup before going in to a live shooting situation.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #140 on: February 23, 2018, 09:35:37 AM »
As mentioned previously, this is scapegoating.  The cop was following protocol and standard operating proceedure for police to wait for backup before going in to a live shooting situation.

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There is much disagreement on that conjecture.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #141 on: February 23, 2018, 09:40:33 AM »
As mentioned previously, this is scapegoating.  The cop was following protocol and standard operating proceedure for police to wait for backup before going in to a live shooting situation.

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There is much disagreement on that conjecture.

Of course there is.  Everyone on all sides is using the event to forward their political agenda.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #142 on: February 23, 2018, 10:23:38 AM »
As mentioned previously, this is scapegoating.  The cop was following protocol and standard operating proceedure for police to wait for backup before going in to a live shooting situation.

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There is much disagreement on that conjecture.

Of course there is.  Everyone on all sides is using the event to forward their political agenda.

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True, I agree. Nice of you to admit it.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #143 on: February 23, 2018, 10:27:23 AM »
As mentioned previously, this is scapegoating.  The cop was following protocol and standard operating proceedure for police to wait for backup before going in to a live shooting situation.

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There is much disagreement on that conjecture.

Of course there is.  Everyone on all sides is using the event to forward their political agenda.

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True, I agree. Nice of you to admit it.

Nice of you to admit it also.  KD is obviously on his agenda.  LIbertarians are eatintg this one up in the media, in typical right wing controlled MSM owned by Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers.

Libertarians are shameless in their use of the media.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #144 on: February 23, 2018, 10:48:47 AM »
As mentioned previously, this is scapegoating.  The cop was following protocol and standard operating proceedure for police to wait for backup before going in to a live shooting situation.

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There is much disagreement on that conjecture.

Of course there is.  Everyone on all sides is using the event to forward their political agenda.

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True, I agree. Nice of you to admit it.

Nice of you to admit it also.  KD is obviously on his agenda.  LIbertarians are eatintg this one up in the media, in typical right wing controlled MSM owned by Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers.

Libertarians are shameles in their use of the media.

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CNN, the Clinton News Network  as Cris Hedges so aptly named it, is quite shameles as well, then of course there is NYT and Oprah the Presidential hopeful spewing her money making song to the snowflakes.

Agreed again, a disgusting situation.  :(

I'm a great believer of the free press, untainted by money. Like the Diner was at it's founding.

Boy oh Boy there were some great opinions, articles, and ideas as well as much truth posted on those hallowed advertiser free unmonied pages.

Remember Peter's Hitler article? El'Gs remarkable writings? The debate about David Icke? Ashvin and you arguing Christianity and it's dogma. KA and Ashvin out in philosophy space. JoeP's news.

Never could figure out really why, but the Library of Alexandria was my favorite, something about it fascinated the shit out of me. :icon_scratch:

Yeah, No way you ever acquire anything close on MSM, pure drivel for the Dim.  :-\

Free press, Free Speech, no money allowed is the way to go.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #145 on: February 23, 2018, 10:57:15 AM »
Free press, Free Speech, no money allowed is the way to go.

How do you fund it?  Through Taxation?  Here it's funded by me, I'm the Deep Pocket paying for it.

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #146 on: February 23, 2018, 11:30:18 AM »
Free press, Free Speech, no money allowed is the way to go.

How do you fund it?  Through Taxation?  Here it's funded by me, I'm the Deep Pocket paying for it.

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No problem, a small minimum donation accepted from members to cover costs only, no overage.
Say for the sake of talking 5 bucks per year ONLY per member, with no ass kissers sending in more to Bummy lick the Admin. Same influence from all members.
Record of payments published every year and by which member, as well as expense list to make sure they closely match.

Some folks pleading poverty or freeloaders still allowed but with limited privileges. Say a members only thread with dues paying members only allowed access or limit of one posting a week or some such bullshit to punish the misers.  :laugh:

Folks like myself wishing to remain anonymous a minor problem. Amount would be small enough to gamble sending cash in an envelope with a dummy return address.

Only hitch then becomes trusting you to admit you got the dough. :icon_mrgreen:

That's a tough one for those who aren't on your groupies list like GO. ;D :-\

GO has to mull that one for a while. ??? :icon_scratch: :exp-grin: :exp-grin: :Thinkingof_:

A free press like that would have to have a treasurer remote from the organization, trusted by all the members, and a legal requirement to secrecy and fiduciary responsibility for the funds, which means he she or it would have to get a fee. Not an easy find. :icon_scratch:

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #147 on: February 23, 2018, 11:57:49 AM »
Free press, Free Speech, no money allowed is the way to go.

How do you fund it?  Through Taxation?  Here it's funded by me, I'm the Deep Pocket paying for it.

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No problem, a small minimum donation accepted from members to cover costs only, no overage.

You've never made a single donation to this website in all the time you have been here!

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #148 on: February 23, 2018, 12:12:14 PM »
Free press, Free Speech, no money allowed is the way to go.

How do you fund it?  Through Taxation?  Here it's funded by me, I'm the Deep Pocket paying for it.

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No problem, a small minimum donation accepted from members to cover costs only, no overage.

You've never made a single donation to this website in all the time you have been here!

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And I have never been paid for all my hard work and dedication. It's been a labor of love.  :icon_sunny:

 

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Re: We Only Have One Cop for Your School but 6 Who Will Guard a Cowards 24/7
« Reply #149 on: February 23, 2018, 12:17:11 PM »
Free press, Free Speech, no money allowed is the way to go.

How do you fund it?  Through Taxation?  Here it's funded by me, I'm the Deep Pocket paying for it.

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No problem, a small minimum donation accepted from members to cover costs only, no overage.

You've never made a single donation to this website in all the time you have been here!

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And I have never been paid for all my hard work and dedication. It's been a labor of love.  :icon_sunny:

Nobody gets paid here.  You expect to be PAID to read this website and drop on comments?  ::)  You don't write articles, you just post pictures every so often.  That is just flat out nuts.

The reason just about every website now has a paywall is because most of the readers are cheapskates like you who won't make donations even though they regularly use the site.  Your solution is not a solution.

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