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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #150 on: July 07, 2018, 10:21:00 AM »
I guess when you HAVE to be 1st to the dance, we'll just make shit up as we go. God Bless GM, they will be crushed  :coffee:
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #151 on: July 07, 2018, 10:28:28 AM »
The trade war could bankrupt them (again). But since the cars they sell in china are built in China, maybe it won't affect their bottom line that much.

Trump is so loyal to Big Business. But if he thinks they'll be loyal to him, he is sadly mistaken.
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #152 on: July 07, 2018, 11:04:14 AM »
The trade war could bankrupt them (again). But since the cars they sell in china are built in China, maybe it won't affect their bottom line that much.

Trump is so loyal to Big Business. But if he thinks they'll be loyal to him, he is sadly mistaken.

VW & Toyota both have plants here & in Ol' Mexico.
This trade war newz is nonsense. At some point a level playing field will need to be created across the globe.

Tariffs have been a bad idea since their inception.

There needs to be a global standard set & adhered to. Wishful thinking at this point in time. To many ego's to manage.
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #153 on: July 07, 2018, 01:24:56 PM »
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread - 2020 Tesla Roadster
« Reply #154 on: July 07, 2018, 01:29:19 PM »
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #155 on: July 07, 2018, 01:33:26 PM »
WOW....
You talk about full scale slot car. This is it...

Like I said. The Germans are bringing their "A" game to this dance.

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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #156 on: July 11, 2018, 02:10:45 PM »
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During the Industry Pool at the Nürburgring I have filmed the 2019 Porsche Taycan (Mission-E).

The production version of the electric Porsche Mission E concept is set to be named Porsche Taycan
Porsche has officially announced the name of its new electric GT car and it's Porsche Taycan. The Taycan is arguably the marque’s most radical model in its 87-year history – being its first ever all-electric production vehicle. The electric 4-door is to spearhead Porsche’s long-term electrification plans, with a range of plug-in hybrids and full EVs set to join it in the future.

According to Porsche, Taycan is a word taken from an eastern dialect and is pronounced ‘tie-can’. It translates as ‘lively young horse’ and is a reference to the horse that’s been rearing up on its hind legs on the Porsche badge since 1952.

The first signal from Porsche that it was to build a fully electric car came in 2015, when it showed off the Mission E concept at the Frankfurt Motor Show. The production model will get the new Porsche Taycan name and be unveiled fully in early 2019, with customers taking delivery later that year.

Prototypes of the Taycan electric saloon have been undergoing development testing for several months. Although the Taycan shares a similar silhouette to the Panamera saloon, the Tesla Model S rival will be more compact and cheaper; entry-level versions priced between £60,000 and £70,000 mean it will carry only a small premium over its main rival.

Previewed in our exclusive images, the Taycan will bear a close resemblance to the concept in shape and style, but the rear-hinged back doors and matrix LED headlamps will be adapted for production. Features such as the flared haunches, LED tail-light strip and coupe-like rear end will remain to echo the looks of the 911 sports car.

The Mission E concept generates nearly 600bhp via a lithium-ion battery and two electric motors, one on each axle. Porsche claims this powertrain will allow the Taycan production car to cover 0-62mph in under 3.5 seconds and 0-124mph in under 12s before hitting a top speed of 155mph. Crucially, we’re told the performance will be repeatable with the electric car able to accelerate hard ‘over and over again without losing performance’.

In terms of range, the target is for the Porsche Taycan cover upwards of 300 miles on a single charge and Porsche says the 800-volt system can take on 62 miles of charge in just 4 minutes - assuming you have access to the necessary high powered charging facilities.

This version of the Taycan is expected to be the flagship model but Porsche has invested a further 500million Euros (£437million) into its electrification strategy to develop additional versions of the car. The variants, of which there is likely to be three, will vary from around 400bhp up to 600bhp. Porsche CEO Oliver Blume told us: “We will think of different options and there will be more than one, with different levels of power.”

All-wheel drive is expected to be standard on all versions initially, but there is the possibility of Porsche launching a more affordable rear-wheel-drive edition in the future. It also plans a crossover version of the car, as previewed by the Cross Turismo concept that made its debut at March’s Geneva Motor Show.

Over-the-air updates will be possible on the Porsche Taycan, upgrading on-board infotainment systems and safety tech, but also offering to boost power if the customer wishes. The new architecture the car introduces will be used as a base for a fully electric model from Bentley.

Porsche’s commitment to Taycan variants comes as part of a wider investment in the brand’s electrification strategy. The firm will double total investment up to 6bn Euros by 2022, spending on everything from a rapid charging infrastructure to hybrid and electric versions of its existing range.

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Official EV Carz Thread - Elon Best Sharpen His Pencil
« Reply #157 on: July 18, 2018, 05:29:45 PM »
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #158 on: July 18, 2018, 05:56:17 PM »
Listen to this guy talk about his late model Volt. I would agree that it's an excellent car, and more affordable than just about any car you could buy (given the fact that you use almost no gas). I have had mine for two weeks and have used less than three quarters of a tank (Which is only 8.9 US gallons).

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EV Carz Thread - Move over Geo. Jetson eVTOL is here & now
« Reply #159 on: July 22, 2018, 10:01:28 AM »
Larry Page is quietly amassing a ‘flying car’ empire

One flying car seems absurd; Larry Page has three.

He started with Cora, a two-seater flying taxi, then added a sporty flying boat called Flyer, both developed by a company called Kitty Hawk. And last week, The Verge discovered a third: Opener, which just came out of stealth mode. There was no mention of the Google co-founder in the startup’s announcement, but when confronted with evidence of Page’s involvement, Opener quickly issued a press release admitting it.


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How Cars Divide America
« Reply #160 on: July 23, 2018, 10:50:30 AM »
Urbanists have long looked at cars as the scourge of great places.  Jane Jacobs identified the automobile as the “chief destroyer of American communities.” Cars not only clog our roads and cost billions of dollars in time wasted commuting, they are a terrible killer. They caused more than 40,000 deaths in 2017, including of some 6,000 pedestrians and cyclists.


https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/07/how-cars-divide-america/565148/
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Re: How Cars Divide America
« Reply #161 on: July 23, 2018, 11:52:27 AM »
Urbanists have long looked at cars as the scourge of great places.  Jane Jacobs identified the automobile as the “chief destroyer of American communities.” Cars not only clog our roads and cost billions of dollars in time wasted commuting, they are a terrible killer. They caused more than 40,000 deaths in 2017, including of some 6,000 pedestrians and cyclists.


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The problem with trying to compare metros areas by car commuters vs. other types of transportation, is that there are a whole lot for the former and not too many of the latter. That skews the results.
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💩 Tesla insiders say ‘it’s a s–t show’ under beleaguered Elon Musk
« Reply #162 on: August 24, 2018, 04:37:13 AM »
It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.  :icon_sunny:

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Tesla insiders say ‘it’s a s–t show’ under beleaguered Elon Musk


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As Elon Musk continues to struggle — with Tesla under investigation by the SEC following his tweet that it might go private after “funding secured,” among several other self-inflicted wounds — employees tell The Post that the company is in turmoil.

“Elon talks about being a socialist and doing good for mankind — unless you work for them,” says one source. “It’s a s–t show.”

Musk is walking a razor wire, another source says, between the things he’s promising and the things he can actually deliver. Until recently, Tesla investors and employees bought into Musk’s vision, even though Musk was “saying things that don’t make sense, because he’s accomplished so much.”

That core belief may be eroding.

Last August, The Wall Street Journal published an exposé about the deep divide between the Tesla engineers working on self-driving cars and Musk’s pronouncements about deadlines and capabilities. At least 14 people had already resigned, and the electric-car maker continues to suffer a talent drain.

In March, corporate treasurer and VP of finance Susan Repo left after five years, sales chief Jon McNeill left for Lyft, and chief accounting officer Eric Branderiz left for personal reasons. Chief engineer Doug Field left in July, as did top sales executive Ganesh Srivats.

An employee who worked under Srivats says he was recruited as a sales rep — or “owner adviser” in Tesla parlance — one year ago. He couldn’t resist Tesla’s seductive pitch.

“They told me, ‘Your industry is destroying the world,’” so come to Tesla and save it. Elon himself has been the ultimate draw for many.

Staff meetings with Musk, according to another source, aren’t that far afield from the infamous Trump cabinet meeting in which members went around the table praising the president and thanking him for the privilege.

And when Musk makes promises about a car’s capabilities that aren’t realistic, he’ll double-down.

“He is very difficult to move off his stance,” says the source. “He’ll say, ‘The car can do X, Y or Z,’ And yes, that is possible — two decades from now,” the source said. “He bases his argument on the physically possible rather than the practical reality.”

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Musk’s sudden public unraveling has placed Tesla under more scrutiny. In May, he alarmed investors by calling their ­semichallenging questions “boring” and “boneheaded.” In July, after unsuccessfully inserting himself into the Thailand cave-rescue attempt, Musk took to Twitter and called one hero diver “a pedo.”

On Aug. 7, Musk shocked Tesla and its investors with the “funding secured” tweet — at $420 a share, that would put the company’s valuation at $10 billion.

In the wake of that tweet, the SEC opened an investigation, reportedly subpoenaing Tesla one week later.

This likely prompted Musk’s unhinged interview with The New York Times, published Aug. 16, in which he vacillated between tears and laughter.

Musk, 47, described the past year as “excruciating.” He said he hadn’t taken a week’s vacation since 2001. He claimed to be working 120 hours a week, with three to four days spent sleeping at the factory, never seeing daylight. Musk said he sometimes took Ambien to sleep, but according to the Times, board members know he has occasionally used recreational drugs.

Musk said much of his stress comes not from production woes or missed deadlines, nor a failure to delegate or master time-management, but from the short-sellers who, Musk said, “are desperately pushing a narrative that will possibly result in Tesla’s destruction.”

Musk said he had no intention of abandoning Twitter, despite the pleas of board members and outside observers to do so.

“You had a very big shareholder last week say they want him to focus on executing and stop with the tweets,” Gordon Johnson, managing director of investment research firm Vertical Group, told The Washington Post in July. “What’s his angle? What is he doing? … He keeps promising things, and he keeps missing, and he’s not being held to task.”

One insider vouches for this and says that when Musk tweets about a new functionality or feature, it’s often in response to a fan who has asked when such a thing might be available. Musk, says this source, will often email the tasked department, then tweet back to the fan the date it will be done, no matter how unrealistic the request.

Some of Musk’s more incendiary tweets, goes one theory, are a form of distraction — if there are a number of commitments Musk knows he’ll never fulfill, he hopes people will forget by moving their eyes off the ball.

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Meanwhile, Tesla’s current great hope, the (relatively) affordably priced Model 3, is having its own issues, as is the sales force responsible for moving them.

On Tuesday, Business Insider reported that although Tesla hit its production goal of 5,000 Model 3s by the end of June, 4,300 of those vehicles required substantial fixes. That’s 14 percent making it through “first pass yield,” or an initial production line that requires no fixes at all.

An industry exec told the site that the standard automaker FPY is 80 percent.

This Tesla employee isn’t surprised.

“The Model 3s come in [to the showroom] scratched or damaged,” he says. “They don’t fit together properly. If you look at the panels, they’ll be mismatched. They won’t line up.”

On Thursday, Business Insider reported that Wall Street analysts tore apart a Model 3 to find multiple failures, including “inconsistent gaps & flushness throughout the car, missing bolts, loose tolerances, and uneven & misaligned spot welds … The results confirm media reports of quality issues & are disappointing for a $49k car.”

This “owner adviser” says he left a job paying $150,000 a year for a Tesla base salary of $34,000, with Tesla execs promising enough in annual commissions to match his previous salary. He soon learned that would never happen, because Tesla keeps moving the goal posts.

“I had a friend who killed it — her commission check was going to be $42,000,” he says. “They said, ‘Just kidding. You missed [your goal]. It’s going to be $4,000 for the year.’”

Last May, Tesla settled a class-action suit brought by three former salespeople who accused the company of abusive workplace practices, including the constant manipulation of sales figures and commission fees.

Yet Tesla employees are directed to feel for only one victim: Elon Musk.

Recently, the owner-adviser says, headquarters “literally sent out a picture of the couch and blanket that he sleeps on” at the Tesla factory. “They were selling it to us like his team pitched in to buy him a new couch. He’s a f–king billionaire. He can afford a couch.”

Even as doubts fester within Tesla’s factory walls, few want to believe the trajectory may be downward.

“Elon emails us directly, saying ‘We’re on top, we’re going to prove [everybody] wrong,’” this employee says. “Everyone realizes it’s f–ked up, but everyone’s afraid of losing their job before Tesla ‘hits it big.’ It’s a mess.”
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Re: Official EV Carz Thread
« Reply #163 on: August 24, 2018, 06:32:22 AM »
Look out. Kalashnikov is building an electric car now.



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« Reply #164 on: August 24, 2018, 07:14:37 AM »
Look out. Kalashnikov is building an electric car now.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/24/kalashnikov-tesla/

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