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Offline Eddie

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Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« on: December 05, 2015, 04:38:18 PM »


Hemngway's Pilar, bought for $7500 (big money in 1934) and named for the heroine in "For Whom the Bell Tolls".




The fishing was good in those years.

 in 1933 he landed his first big one, 468 pounds, in 65 minutes. In 1935, he won every tournament in the Key West-Havana-Bimini triangle, besting notables like Michael Lerner and Kip Farrington. In 1938, Hemingway caught a world record seven marlin in one day.

https://www2.southeastern.edu/Academics/Faculty/ngerman/SaltWater_Sports_Heming.htm

The boat is still in existence, in Cuba, but it hasn't been well taken care of by the commies.




Humphrey Bogart's boat, the Santana, was a 55 ft. Schooner designed by Olin Stephens and built for a California oil man in 1935. She had a very respectable racing history. Bogey bought her in 1945 from Dick Powell and kept her until his death in 1957. He is said to have spent 35 to 45 weekends a year on her and raced her himself with some success. A model of her was prominently displayed at his funeral in place of a casket.


The trouble with having dames onboard is you can't pee over the side. ---H. Bogart

This boat is nearing or has now completed a total restoration carried out in Rhode Island over the last two years.





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Re: Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 04:51:47 PM »
reminds me of 'The Old Man and the Sea Eddie.

What a book. What a movie.

                             
                                       

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Re: Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 05:03:34 PM »
That character was inspired by Hemingway's long time captain of the Pilar, Gregorio Fuentes, who outlived Hemingway by more than forty  years.

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Re: Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 05:22:26 PM »
William F. Buckley Jr. was an avid sailor who wrote three great sailing books. "Airborne" and "Atlantic High" and "Racing Through Paradise".


Cyrano, Buckley's 60 foot schooner, destroyed in the same 2011 tsunami that caused the Fukushima disaster

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Re: Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 05:31:23 PM »
David Crosby has his Alden Schooner, the Mayan.





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Just Some Ruskie Oligarch and Saudi Prince Private Yachts
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 05:44:52 PM »




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Re: Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2015, 05:52:36 PM »
At some particular point in size and cost (not sure exactly what it is) you don't own the boat anymore, it owns you.

Those yachts? You might as well buy a cruise ship, imho. LOL.


L Ron Hubbard's infamous ship, Freewinds



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Re: Just Some Americans and Their Boats
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2015, 06:05:26 PM »
At some particular point in size and cost (not sure exactly what it is) you don't own the boat anymore, it owns you.

At any size, boats tend to be a money sink.  Except for fishing boats, and commercial shipping boats, they don't make any money.  It's just a matter of how big a money sink you can afford to fund.  Hemingway and Bogey could afford decent size boats, but the Ruskie Oligarchs and Saudi Princes are up a couple of orders of magnitude from that.  They have a ton of money to flush down the toilet on these things.

In your neighborhood of income depending how much money you wish to flush down the toilet, I think you could afford up to about 50' of money sink.  In my neighborhood I can probably do 35' since I would be living on it also.  Communally amongst all Diners if they would kick in, I would say we could flush money down the toilet for 100' of boat.  LOL.

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