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Terrorism Survey
« on: December 08, 2015, 02:26:00 AM »


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Published on the Doomstead Diner on December 8, 2015



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Our latest Collapse Survey TM aims to see what the Collapse Community thinks is the best way to handle the problem of increasing Terrorism as we move further down the Collapse Highway.  Before you take the survey however, it might be worthwhile to review some of the Options currently on the table, either already being implemented or being proposed by various Pols from Obama-sama to Tony Blair to Geert Wilders to Marine LePen to The Donald.



As Terrorism becomes ever more prevalent around the Globe, the population at large begs for their leaders to DO SOMETHING about this nasty problem!  Over in Europe, the Pols in Charge are doing something, they are putting up electrified fences at the border crossings, dispatching NATO troops to Greece, and dropping bombs on Syria.  So far of course, these actions haven't done a damn thing to staunch the flow of blood on the streets of Paris though, if anything it is only serving to increase the frequency of shootings and bombings.



Over in Brussels they put the city under Martial Law for several days officially while they went searching for the "Usual Suspects", and I'll bet the streets are still crawling with Special Forces in Camo Outfits and RoboCops in Black & Blue Pajamas.



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Notice these guys all have their faces covered?



Over here in the FSoA, we have the Texas Pols threatening to sue the Federal Goverment if they send any Syrian Refugees to TX and The Donald threatening to deport all Muslims once he gets elected POTUS, but neither of these ideas seems to be doing a lot to slow the tide of Campus Shoot-em-Ups and freshly radicalized and disaffected locals with their own personal armories from blowing away random citizens in San Bernadino.



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Of course once again the call goes out for more Gun Control, but this is not real popular amongst the legal owners of guns first of all, and then there would be the logistical problem of trying to confiscate all the guns already out there.  This is one of those horse left the barn/genie out of the bottle problems, aside from the fact that the Right to Bear Arms is one of the few Constitutional protections that hasn't been completely undermined yet.



Another faction thinks the solution would be for EVERYBODY to be Packing Heat.  Sort of like the good old days of the Old West when every cowpoke Had a Six Gun on his hip.  Well, except for Lucas McCain, who carried his modified Winchester Lever Action Rifle with him and could hit a beer can at 1000 yards without even aiming.  LOL.






Better than a Kalishnikov!



Then of course you also have a crew of people out there with the FINAL SOLUTION to Terrorism, Glaze over all of MENA with "Surgical" strikes with "Tactical" Nukes, thus wiping out the breeding ground of Terrorists!



http://www.shomreitorah.org/wp-content/upLoads/2015/08/nuclear-explosion.jpg



To be fair, there are Peaceful Solutions being proposed and even undertaken, like sending $Billions$ in Aid to build spanking new Refugee Camps in Turkey along with Truckloads of MREs so the Terrorists won't keep trying to migrate to Europe, they'll be happy to live in a Refugee Camp where the average length of stay is now up to 17 years!



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Homemade Self Organized Refugee Camp



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Upscale Goobermint Organized Refugee Camp.  This one in Kenya supposedly houses around 300,000 Human Souls!




Seventeen years: the average length of stay in a refugee camp. The figure came up in a conversation last week with a French journalist who’s making a documentary about camps, but I’d heard it many times before—perhaps you have, too. Here are a selection of international sources quoting this figure, which I turned up with a bit of cursory googling in English and an even briefer bit in French:




  • A 2013 article on TakePart.com (“a digital news & lifestyle magazine and social action platform for the conscious consumer”), quoting Liesl Spitz of FilmAid.


  • From 2012, the Khalid Hosseini Foundation supporting a UNHCR campaign.


  • A 2008 Australian Broadcasting Corporation (Hobart) news article about an Oxfam educational resource.


  • From the same year, an edited volume in one of the best academic series on refugee studies, Berghahn’s Studies in Forced Migration: Hajdukowski-Ahmed et al., Not born a refugee woman (see p16).


  • The info page for the Ideas Box, a Libraries Without Borders initiative (and toolkit) for providing education in refugee camps.


  • A Radio France news article about the above, including an interview with the designer, Philippe Starck (yup, that Philippe Starck).




Granted, there is some dispute over the 17 year figure, but I think most of the statisticians would agree it is over 5 years for sure, and IMHO anything more than maybe 2 years and all these camps become is a breeding ground for still more Terrorists.  But of course, as long as we can keep them all on the Turkish side of the border, we should be OK, right?



So there is no shortage of suggestions on how to solve or at least reduce the Terrorism problem, but the question is will any of them work at all?  Will one at least work better than the other ones?  Are there other solutions to this growing problem that could be undertaken?  If so, what are they?  These questions and more appear on the Terrorism Survey TM, and this is your opportunity to be heard (if only by a tiny number of Kollapsniks) on this very important topic.  Your Vote is IMPORTANT here!  VOTE TODAY!



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Re: Terrorism Survey
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 04:55:44 AM »
IMHO, this survey is flawed from the outset, as it allows no provision for right wing domestic terrorism, or terror via cop.
Fatal oversights.
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Re: Terrorism Survey
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 05:34:13 AM »
IMHO, this survey is flawed from the outset, as it allows no provision for right wing domestic terrorism, or terror via cop.
Fatal oversights.

WHAT?

Every time I have tried to get some input on questions to drop on a survey, I get absolutely ZERO in help.  Then AFTER I drop on a survey, some jackass drops in and tells me how my survey is flawed or I didn't provide the right possible answers.

Please feel free to write up questions about your concerns on right-wing domestic terrorism and terror via cop and I will add them to the survey right now.  Not too many people have responded as of yet, so I can wipe it and add the questions.  :P

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Re: Terrorism Survey
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 05:46:01 AM »
IMHO, this survey is flawed from the outset, as it allows no provision for right wing domestic terrorism, or terror via cop.
Fatal oversights.

WHAT?

Every time I have tried to get some input on questions to drop on a survey, I get absolutely ZERO in help.  Then AFTER I drop on a survey, some jackass drops in and tells me how my survey is flawed or I didn't provide the right possible answers.

Please feel free to write up questions about your concerns on right-wing domestic terrorism and terror via cop and I will add them to the survey right now.  Not too many people have responded as of yet, so I can wipe it and add the questions.  :P

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I'll see if I can't find some jackass to do that.

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Re: Terrorism Survey
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 05:54:46 AM »
Since it's being re written as a politics rather than terrorism survey, it might be fair to include Left wing terrorism as well as PC thought police gangs terrorizing folks exercising free speech.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 06:02:48 AM »

I'll see if I can't find some jackass to do that.


Well, be quick about finding said Jackass, because we already have 5 responses.

I'm not gonna wipe it, but I will make a Part II to add to it.  :icon_mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorism Survey
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 07:12:50 AM »
Since it's being re written as a politics rather than terrorism survey, it might be fair to include Left wing terrorism as well as PC thought police gangs terrorizing folks exercising free speech.
By all means feel free to adduce such evidence of same.

Here's an aperitif from the Red Brigades, you effete fool:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

Here are 10 of the worst domestic terror attacks by extreme Christians and right-wing white men
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/here-are-10-of-the-worst-domestic-terror-attacks-by-extreme-christians-and-right-wing-white-men/

To which the story is note complete without these:
Poster boy Dylann Roof https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof
And your fellow traveler Robert Dear: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/11/planned-parenthood-shooting/417939/

The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/10/16/3713318/doj-creates-new-post-to-focus-on-threats-from-rightwing-radicals-and-other-domestic-terrorists/

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/6/25/does_us_ignore_right_wing_terror

And this evidence, assembled in five minutes of googling, makes it political?


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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 07:31:11 AM »
Since it's being re written as a politics rather than terrorism survey, it might be fair to include Left wing terrorism as well as PC thought police gangs terrorizing folks exercising free speech.

Another Jackass Critic chips in!  ::)

Please, feel free to compose your Survey Questions about Left Wing Terrorism as well!  I will include them in Part II of the Survey with Surly's questions!

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 07:42:08 AM »

               

 Comrade , It is the Left, The Democrats of which you are a such a loyal card carrying member that was the Segregation Klan Party.

 Have you fotgotten your history again?  Tis common knowledge Comrade.

 Here are some facts to mull over from Anne Coulter, and don't you go shooting off your misogynist mouth hypocrite, ENJOY.

 OH YES, Thanks for not Tar And Feathering anymore.  :emthup: :icon_sunny:



 
 "Not all Democrats were segregationists, but all segregationists were Democrats and there were enough of them to demand compliance from the rest of the party," Ann Coulter in Mugged.

It is time for the "We love blacks" Democrat Party myth to end.  Paying Blacks to vote "Democrat"  cannot continue. More and more Blacks are realizing that welfare does not grow the middle class,  that there is no "upward mobility" as a result of receiving welfare in the form of food stamps and living assistance,  whether truly needed or not. 

Forty years of such nonsense finds the Black community just as poor,  just as poorly educated,  just as prosecuted,  and just as angry as they were in the beginning of the "war on poverty."  7 billion dollars has done nothing except to continue their dependence on those who need their votes. 

This is what I know. 

The following is what I have trumpeted on this blog,  for four years:   

It was Southern Democrats who invented the KKK,  fought against slave emancipation during the Civil War.  It was the Democrat Party that segregated the military in both world wars  (Pres Wilson in WW 1,  and FDR in WW 2). In fact,  FDR,  lead dog in the Democrat Party during the WW 2,  refused to receive Jesse Owens,  in his triumphant return from the German Games in 1936.  Owens died,  deeply offended by the Democrat's rejection of him. 

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.  His principles on race remain the conservative opinion,  today.  Martin Luther King,  Jr., was a Republican,  as well. 

The 1964 Civil Rights Bill was first proposed by the GOP under Eisenhower in the mid-1950's,  but, was defeated by the segregationist in the Democrat Party.    When it was passed into law,  under LBJ (he fought against the first proposition in the '50's),  there was a larger percentage of Republicans supporting the law's passage than Democrats. 

When the Democrat Party got too Marxist for the segregationists,  these bigoted losers moved into the GOP and,  have been a part of the conservative landscape ever since. 

Now,  Ann Coulter has written a definitive book on the subject.  We,  conservatives,  have allowed the Democrats to rewrite history for far too long.   And the people they murdered and enslaved,  have fallen for this deceit and continue to serve at the feet of their one time masters. 

From the Publisher: 

“This isn’t a story about black people—it’s a story about the Left’s agenda to patronize blacks and lie to everyone else.”

For decades, the Left has been putting on a play with themselves as heroes in an ongoing civil rights movement which they were mostly absent from at the time. Long after pervasive racial discrimination ended, they kept pretending America was being run by the Klan and that liberals were black America’s only protectors.

It took the O. J. Simpson verdict—the race-based acquittal of a spectacularly guilty black celebrity as blacks across America erupted in cheers—to shut down the white guilt bank.
 
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Re: Terrorism Survey
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 07:44:38 AM »
Since it's being re written as a politics rather than terrorism survey, it might be fair to include Left wing terrorism as well as PC thought police gangs terrorizing folks exercising free speech.

Another Jackass Critic chips in!  ::)

Please, feel free to compose your Survey Questions about Left Wing Terrorism as well!  I will include them in Part II of the Survey with Surly's questions!

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I didn't complain about the original format; read for comprehension please Jack Ass.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2015, 07:45:53 AM »
Early Exit Polling VERY INTERESTING already!  :icon_sunny:

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2015, 07:54:35 AM »
I didn't complain about the original format

Only because Surly was quicker on the Complaint Draw.  You would have complained eventually.  LOL.

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Do I not recall you INSULTING me just yesterday, or maybe day before?  Or was I not reading for comprehension?  You really LIKE my writing but I just misinterpreted you?  What?

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2015, 08:03:43 AM »
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Only because Surly was quicker on the Complaint Draw.  You would have complained eventually.  LOL.

Nice how you twisted the event around to blame me, even telling me what I was going to write ahead of time. Making the commissar the winner of an imaginary contest as well. :D :D

Glad to see you sticking up for Helmut. Lefty Love is always good for a laugh.  :icon_mrgreen:       :ernaehrung004:

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2015, 08:21:57 AM »

Nice how you twisted the event around to blame me, even telling me what I was going to write ahead of time.

You Reap what you Sow GO.  As long as you persist in insulting me and pitching your Negative Waves on the Diner, I will retaliate.  Show some respect, and you will get respect back.  Respect does not seem to be in your kit bag here though.  I have done my best to honor you, making you Moderator of the Art & Photography Forum and Editor of the Diner Lens.  Nevertheless, you continue to insult me.  I will not tolerate that shit without rebuttal.

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2015, 08:40:24 AM »
The order list questions did not work under my linux OS.  It is OK though because I would have skipped them both anyway.

One had to do with which politicians could do a better job ending terrorism but the terrorism problem has to do with the deep state who will take out any politician who opposes them.  That question is silly.

The other had to do with what is the best way to fight terrorism and since terrorism is manufactured the only way to stop it is to stop its production at the source.  Since the source is not what or who we are lead to believe through the media the options presented made no sense.

 

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