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« on: July 21, 2012, 04:08:06 PM »
Diners,

I've never cared much for conspiracy theories, but having recently come to the truth about 911, I have to say, there is something very fishy about that Colorado shooting. This article from Natural News via Alex Jones site lays it out pretty tight. And only a week away, the UN ratification of the small arms "treaty"

http://www.infowars.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged/

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

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July 21, 2012

James Holmes, the Aurora, Colorado shooter who reportedly opened fire at a Batman movie premiere, was a medical student at the University of Colorado, pursuing a PhD in neuroscience, reports ABC News. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-peop…)

As part of the attack, Holmes painted his hair red and referred to himself as “The Joker,” one of the arch enemies in the DC Comics-inspired Batman movie series. (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-the…)

According to news reports, this sudden violent rampage was completely out of character for James Holmes, who was described as “shy.”

The New York Times is now reporting:
Billy Kromka, a pre-med student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant in a lab of at the Anschutz Medical Campus. Mr. Kromka said he was surprised to learn Mr. Holmes was the shooting suspect. “It was just shocking, because there was no way I thought he could have the capacity to do commit an atrocity like this,” he said. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/colorado-mall-shooting.html?page…)

“He spent much of his time immersed in the computer, often participating in role-playing online games…”

There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research and ended up becoming involved at a depth he never anticipated. His actions clearly show a strange detachment from reality, indicating he was not in his right mind. That can only typically be accomplished through drugs, hypnosis or trauma (and sometimes all three).

His behavior doesn’t add up

    A d v e r t i s e m e n t

His behavior already reveals stark inconsistencies that question the mainstream explanation of events. For example, he opened fire on innocent people but then calmly surrendered to police without resistance. This is not consistent with the idea of “killing everyone.”

Furthermore, he then admitted to police that his apartment was booby-trapped with explosives. If you were really an evil-minded Joker trying to kill people (including cops), why would you warn them about the booby trap in advance? It doesn’t add up.

“Holmes was taken into custody shortly after the shooting, police said, adding he didn’t resist when he was arrested,” reports a local CBS news affiliate (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-the…).

“After his arrest, Holmes told police about ‘possible explosives in his residence,’ Oates said. When police searched his apartment, they discovered it was booby-trapped and evacuated surrounding buildings, police said. Oates said bomb technicians are determining how to disarm flammable or explosive material in the third-floor apartment. He said police could be there some time.”

None of this checks out. If you’re a killer bent on causing mayhem, why tell the police about your surprise bomb waiting for them back at your apartment?

Holmes was clearly provided with exotic gear

Continuing from CBS:

“He said pictures from inside the apartment are fairly disturbing and the devices look to be sophisticated, adding the booby-traps were ‘something I’ve never seen.’ One rifle, two handguns, a knife, a bullet proof vest, a ballistic helmet, a gas device, a gas mask, military SWAT clothing and unidentified explosives were also found in Holmes’ car, a law enforcement source told CBS News. Oates said Holmes wore a gas mask, a ballistic helmet and vest as well as leg, groin and throat protectors during the shooting.”

In other words, this guy was equipped with exotic gear by someone with connections to military equipment. SWAT clothing, explosives, complex booby-traps… c’mon, this isn’t a “lone gunman.” This is somebody who was selected for a mission, given equipment to carry it out, then somehow brainwashed into getting it done.

“Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes’ apartment is booby-trapped with a ‘sophisticated’ maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it,” reports Yahoo News (http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/suspect-neuroscience-phd-stu…).

This is not your run-of-the-mill crime of passion. It was a carefully planned, heavily funded and technically advanced attack. Who might be behind all this? The FBI, of course, which has a long history of setting up and staging similar attacks, then stopping them right before they happen. See four documented stories on these facts:

http://www.naturalnews.com/035849_domestic_terror_plots_FBI.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/034325_FBI_entrapment_terror_plots.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033751_FBI_terrorism.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/035757_FBI_terror_plots_false_flag.html

As you soak all this in, remember that the FBI had admitted to setting up terror plots, providing the weapons and gear, staging the location of the bombings and even driving the vehicles to pull it off! This is not a conspiracy theory, it’s been admitted by the FBI right out in the open. Even the New York Times openly reports all this in stories like this one:

NYT: Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-help…)

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts. But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. …the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving…

Mystery man Holmes has no background

On top of all this, Holmes apparently has no background. “He’s not on anybody’s radar screen — nothing,” said a peace officer in a NYT article. “This guy is somewhat of an enigma. Nobody knows anything about him.” (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/colorado-mall-shooting.html)

Mr. Holmes’s only criminal history is a traffic summons, the authorities said. He earned a bachelor’s degree with honors in neuroscience in 2010 from the University of California, Riverside, and was a graduate student in neurosciences at the University of Colorado at Denver’s Anschutz Medical Campus… He was currently collecting unemployment…

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, “flammable” booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody’s guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I’m guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

The mere manufacture of an explosive booby-trap device is, all by itself, a felony crime by the way. And remember: “Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes’ apartment is booby-trapped with a ‘sophisticated’ maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it,” reported Yahoo News (http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/suspect-neuroscience-phd-stu…).

Question: Where does an unemployed, introverted medical school student get the training to deploy sophisticated booby traps, tactical body armor, weapons systems and more? Certainly not in graduate school!

All this leads to an obvious third party influence over all this. Someone else taught this guy these skills and funded the acquisition of the equipment.

Staged just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty?

More and more, this shooting is looking like a deliberate plot staged by the government itself much like Operation Fast and Furious pulled off by the ATF (http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_illegal_firearms.html) which helped smuggle tens of thousands of guns into Mexico for the purpose of causing “gun violence” in the USA, then blaming the Second Amendment for it.

All this looks like James Holmes completed a “mission” and then calmly ended that mission by surrendering to police and admitting everything. The mission, as we are now learning, was to cause as much terror and mayhem as possible, then to have that multiplied by the national media at exactly the right time leading up the UN vote next week on a global small arms treaty that could result in gun confiscation across America. (http://lewrockwell.com/eddlem/eddlem61.1.html)

Even Forbes.com wrote about this quite extensively, warning readers about the coming gun confiscation effort related to the UN treaty. The story was authored by Larry Bell (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should…) and says the UN treaty could “override our national sovereignty, and in the process, provide license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.”

In other words, this has all the signs of Fast & Furious, Episode II. I wouldn’t be surprised to discover someone in Washington was behind it all. After all, there’s no quicker way to disarm a nation and take total control over the population than to stage violence, blame it on firearms, then call for leaders to “do something!” Such calls inevitably end up resulting in gun confiscation, and it’s never too long after that before government genocide really kicks in like we saw with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and other tyrants.

Governments routinely murder millions

Here’s a short list of government mass murder carried out throughout history, almost always immediately following the disarmament of the public (and usually involving staged false flag events to justify the disarmament):

50+ million dead: Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
12+ million dead: Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) – concentration camps, civilian deaths and dead Russian POWs
8+ million dead: Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908)
6+ million dead: Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39)
5+ million dead: Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44)
2+ million dead: Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-22)
1.7 million dead: Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79)
1.6 million dead: Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
1.5 million dead: Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78)
1 million dead: Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970)
900,000 dead: Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982)
800,000 dead: Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994)
See more at:
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

Death by government:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.CHAP1.HTM
http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-i

A “monopoly of force” in government is far more dangerous than a crazed lone shooter

So yes, James Holmes and other crazed shooters kill a number of people each year in random acts of violence. It’s horrifying and wrong, but it’s nothing compared to the millions of lives that governments tend to destroy when they gain total power over the populace.

The most dangerous thing in the world, it turns out, is not a crazy person with a rifle; it’s a government with a “monopoly of force” over the entire population. And that’s exactly what the UN spells out as its goal for the world: Stripping all power from individual citizens and handing “monopolies of force” to the governments of the world, shoring up their positions as the only “legitimate” power on the planet.

See this document entitled, “Geneva Centre for the Democratic Control of Armed Forces (DCAF)” policy paper No. 24:
http://www.naturalnews.com/files/Revisiting-the-State-Monopoly-on-the

As this document reveals, a table entitled “Governance solutions for reasserting the state monopoly on the use of force” lists the options available to governments to re-establish “monopolies of force” against their own people:

• (Re-)establish state monopoly
- Ownership of WMDs
- Safety Inspectorates

• Prohibit business activity
- Justice and Execution
- Deadly Force?

• Regulate/limit activities
- Private defense/security services
- Control of financial transfers
- Export controls
- Transport and infrastructure safety
- Environmental impact

Interestingly, that document also describes “terrorism” in a way that perfectly matches the Aurora, Colorado “Batman” movie theater shooter:

Terrorists aim to spread panic and fear in societies in order to achieve political goals, be they based on left- or right-wing, social-revolutionary, nationalistic or religious ideologies. They are organized in a clandestine way, most often in small groups and cells… Typical tactical means include kidnapping, hostage-taking, sabotage, murder, suicide attacks, vehicle bombs and improvised explosive devices.

A global monopoly of force

This document is a goldmine of information about the globalist agenda to disarm and enslave the population. Check out page 28, which reads:

The legitimate monopoly of force should not be limited to the nation-state but should be based on the local, national, regional and the global levels.

Global Security Governance and the Monopoly of Force

At the global level no monopoly of violence exists. The UN Security Council already has a monopoly power to authorize the use of force at the global level, although the UN was never given the necessary means to exercise this authority, such as the capacity to implement sanctions, a police force and armed forces…

This deficiency in global governance acts as a bottleneck and a barrier to the creation of the democratically legitimized monopoly of violence that is globally required.

This story gets deep, doesn’t it? Watch for more analysis here at NaturalNews.com, where we still fight for liberty and justice in a world that’s increasingly becoming enslaved.

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2012, 05:34:17 PM »
This one is very suspicious and certainly will be used to up the rhetoric for the Gun Control Lobby.

IMHO, this sort of shit would not go on if EVERYBODY was Packing Heat in that Movie Theatre. The minute this Joker openned fire, everybody around him would yank out their Glocks for Target Practice.  Maybe he knocks down one or two unlucky Batman Fans before he himself gets Knocked Down, but hell more folks die in Car Accidents on the way to the Movie Theatre than that every day.

Lot's of Bad Guys out there, but there are IMHO more Good Guys.  The Good Guys need to be Packing Heat also.  When Bad Guys are Killing People, Good Guys have to KILL THEM.  This does not just hold true for Jokers in Movie Theaters.  It holds true for Jokers running Monsanto and Goldman Sachs also.

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2012, 05:46:41 PM »
It's kind of sick that anybody would use this mass murder to score political points and push his own agenda.  Whether it's Obama, the NRA or Alex Jones, it's just sick.

Welcome to America, where every tragedy is a spectacle "personalized" to confirm your worldview.  Fuck that the corpses used to be people.  They died for our amusement and speculation.  It feels just like Christmas.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2012, 05:52:19 PM »
WHD, I immediately thought this will in the least be used for gun control lobby purposes.

Has anyone seen the movie?  I went last night and found some of the themes to be very interesting.  Some examples without trying to spoil it for those who haven't seen the movie:

"Sustainable" fusion based energy, and it's weaponisation, plays a big part in the story.
Anarchy and sentencing of the rich to death (RE orkin man style) after dragging them out of their homes is, not surprisingly, portrayed in a negative light.
The vicious circle principle in the form of technology escalation.

There's probably more but that's all I've got for now

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2012, 05:56:42 PM »
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They died for our amusement and speculation.

Tao,

Well I am not amused. Nor am I willing to pretend that our government would very much like to force us to surrender our guns. And I am very much with RE on this - had a few good men been in that crowd with handguns they knew how to use, that kid would not have killed twelve and wounded 60.

Did you get this angry when your CIA killed those kids sitting around that bonfire in Yemen last year? Are you at all worked up that Obama has filled America's skies with drones this year? Or the 450 million rounds of Hollow Point Bullets our friendly DHS purchased?


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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2012, 05:58:27 PM »
EndisNigh,

Reality is truly becoming far stranger than fiction.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2012, 07:30:51 PM »
Well I am not amused.

Your emotional state is irrelevant, isn't it? 

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Did you get this angry?

My emotional state is irrelevant, too.  For the record, and only because you seem to care: I am not angry.

I won't tell you how I feel because if you had any ability to comprehend what you read, you'd know by now, wouldn't you? 

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Did you get this angry when your CIA killed those kids sitting around that bonfire in Yemen last year? Are you at all worked up that Obama has filled America's skies with drones this year? Or the 450 million rounds of Hollow Point Bullets our friendly DHS purchased?

Go back and read what I wrote.  Now read it again.  And again.  Are you sure you really tried hard to catch every word?  Okay, hopefully you finally caught that I included Obama (and by implication, the Dems and the gun control lobby) in my accusation of using this tragedy for political gain.  Indeed, OBAMA LED THE LIST. (Apologies to everyone else for shouting, but WHD is in the hizouse.)  That's why all the buttons you tried to push didn't work.  Your effort was both ham-handed and way off the mark.

All I can say, WHD, is that you seem to be itching for a fight.  You won't find one here.  Move along. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2012, 07:50:19 PM »
Go back and read what I wrote.  Now read it again.  And again.

TJ, YOU need to read what you wrote Again and Again. You are the one who called WHD "Smug" and then directly AFTER that said nobody called him Smug.  If you can'tremember what you wrote, you are in deep trouble here.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2012, 08:46:39 PM »
Go back and read what I wrote.  Now read it again.  And again.

TJ, YOU need to read what you wrote Again and Again. You are the one who called WHD "Smug" and then directly AFTER that said nobody called him Smug.  If you can'tremember what you wrote, you are in deep trouble here.

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RE, let me explain to you because you just might get it.

It was obvious when WHD changed the topic of conversation (in another post) to argue over a premise that was central to that post (i.e., that we are already in the process of so-called "collapse") that WHD had not understood what I wrote in the first instance.  Therefore, I chose to restate what I originally wrote.   What I originally wrote had nothing to do with WHD.  The fact that I restated what I originally wrote in a comment to WHD, therefore, did not result in what I originally wrote being about WHD. 

This is simple logic, my friend.  Reverse engineer it for yourself. 

If you and WHD really find it that important to believe that I called him smug, go right ahead and believe I called him smug.  For the record, I do think he has poor reading comprehension.  I also think he is narcissistic.  I also think he is a drama queen itching for a fight that will give his life meaning (his life clearly sucks).  But ultimately he lacks self-awareness and is too self-absorbed for me to call him smug.  He's just a raw nerve oscillating in the wind of political change.  Still, if you and he both say I have called him smug, I guess I must have.  It really doesn't matter to me.  At this point, I clearly don't have a favorable opinion of the guy (he made certain of that with his pitiful attempts to attack me in this thread, which just emphasized his lack of reading comprehension and his inability to read people), but he wants to foster my dislike for him so he can have an enemy to focus his rage at.  That's fine, too.  I'll just ignore him , comforted by the knowledge that I bring meaning to his life. 

Now let's rewind to the last paragraph.  Do you really think I'm not willing to own up to intentionally insulting somebody? 

I know what I said.  I know what I meant.  But what I said and what I meant are completely irrelevant once what I said hits the filters you apply to interpret your own personal worlds.  And its just as true that the fact that a bunch of people were massacred during a leisure activity means nothing to the people who want gun control, to the people who want more guns, to the people looking for a bogeyman in every human event.  Fuck the fact that these people were alive only days ago.  Their deaths give our lives meaning, a reason to speculate about how the massacre confirms what we already believe.  They died so we could live (without withdrawal symptoms).  It really is sick, and the fact that self-proclaimed doomers are just as sick as the rest of society only confirms the depth of the illness.



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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2012, 09:19:34 PM »

If you and WHD really find it that important to believe that I called him smug, go right ahead and believe I called him smug.  For the record, I do think he has poor reading comprehension.  I also think he is narcissistic.  I also think he is a drama queen itching for a fight that will give his life meaning (his life clearly sucks).  But ultimately he lacks self-awareness and is too self-absorbed for me to call him smug.  He's just a raw nerve oscillating in the wind of political change.  Still, if you and he both say I have called him smug, I guess I must have.

I don't "say" it, I COPY/PASTED it from your OWN POST!

On the question of Narcissism, it runs RAMPANT on the pages of the Diner.  Just about everyone here who post regularly could be classified that way. CERTAINLY anybody running their own Blog to Blab their Opinion on everything can be classified that way, yourself and myself included.

In terms of self-awareness, watch out for that Pot & Kettle Black Problem.

Finally, dropping terminology like "Drama Queen", "Narcissistic", "Self-Absorption", "lacking in Self-Awareness" et al into ONE PARAGRAPH is Napalm of the FIRST ORDER. You KNOW I cannot let that stand. WHD I am sure will pitch his own Napalm right back atchya, but let me contribute my 2 cents to this contest.

You my friend are so deluded by Tao Koans of HIGHLY questionable Validity that your whole philosophy has the consistency of a badly Scrambled Omellette. You consistently make arguments you backtrack on, and you don't remember well what you yourself JUST WROTE. I still haven't found Jack Shit on your Blog to explain your take on Economic History from 1500 to Present Day that makes a coherent case for ANYTHING. I HIGHLY SUGGEST you drop Napalming WHD and get started writing something more coherent than "Snatch the Pebble from my Hand, Grasshopper", because if you pursue the current tactic, I have a NO CHOICE but to NAPALM THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU.

CAPISHE?

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2012, 10:30:43 PM »

If you and WHD really find it that important to believe that I called him smug, go right ahead and believe I called him smug.  For the record, I do think he has poor reading comprehension.  I also think he is narcissistic.  I also think he is a drama queen itching for a fight that will give his life meaning (his life clearly sucks).  But ultimately he lacks self-awareness and is too self-absorbed for me to call him smug.  He's just a raw nerve oscillating in the wind of political change.  Still, if you and he both say I have called him smug, I guess I must have.

I don't "say" it, I COPY/PASTED it from your OWN POST!

On the question of Narcissism, it runs RAMPANT on the pages of the Diner.  Just about everyone here who post regularly could be classified that way. CERTAINLY anybody running their own Blog to Blab their Opinion on everything can be classified that way, yourself and myself included.

In terms of self-awareness, watch out for that Pot & Kettle Black Problem.

Finally, dropping terminology like "Drama Queen", "Narcissistic", "Self-Absorption", "lacking in Self-Awareness" et al into ONE PARAGRAPH is Napalm of the FIRST ORDER. You KNOW I cannot let that stand. WHD I am sure will pitch his own Napalm right back atchya, but let me contribute my 2 cents to this contest.

You my friend are so deluded by Tao Koans of HIGHLY questionable Validity that your whole philosophy has the consistency of a badly Scrambled Omellette. You consistently make arguments you backtrack on, and you don't remember well what you yourself JUST WROTE. I still haven't found Jack Shit on your Blog to explain your take on Economic History from 1500 to Present Day that makes a coherent case for ANYTHING. I HIGHLY SUGGEST you drop Napalming WHD and get started writing something more coherent than "Snatch the Pebble from my Hand, Grasshopper", because if you pursue the current tactic, I have a NO CHOICE but to NAPALM THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU.

CAPISHE?

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It's "capisce"

And clearly you don't, Illargi Jr.  ::)

Yes, you copied and pasted portions of what I said, but within the larger context of everything I said, what I actually said was not what you cut and pasted.

Let me break all this down for you again because you missed it the first time.   You accused me of refusing to accept that I had insulted WHD when, in your estimation, I had.  In response, what I did was demonstrate the following:  (1)  I know how to insult people; (2) I own up to insulting people when I intentionally do so; and (3) I don't fear being "napalmed" because I have insulted people (whether I did so intentionally or not).  Dude, I've been doing this since alt.flame in the 1980s, and I truly am above it in my twilight years.  But you drove me to the demonstration, Illargi, Jr.  I was fully aware of what I was doing when I did it.  I see your Josey Wales and raise you a "Blondie."

Now, go back to how I finished the comment, read it, and let it sink in:

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I know what I said.  I know what I meant.  But what I said and what I meant are completely irrelevant once what I said hits the filters you apply to interpret your own personal worlds.  And its just as true that the fact that a bunch of people were massacred during a leisure activity means nothing to the people who want gun control, to the people who want more guns, to the people looking for a bogeyman in every human event.  Fuck the fact that these people were alive only days ago.  Their deaths give our lives meaning, a reason to speculate about how the massacre confirms what we already believe.  They died so we could live (without withdrawal symptoms).  It really is sick, and the fact that self-proclaimed doomers are just as sick as the rest of society only confirms the depth of the illness.

"Capishe" yet?  Take some time and let it marinate before responding.  I know you will attempt to "napalm" me, but the fact is that every attempt only confirms the validity of my initial criticism: that it is fucking sick for everybody to use this massacre to pursue their own political agendas.  Those corpses were PEOPLE, not confirmation of your worldview, whatever it might be.

Napalm? Tickle.  You can't touch me when you refuse to engage in a debate on the points I'm actually making.  WHD got us sidetracked.  You did your best to keep us sidetracked.  Now respond to the quoted text above.  I daRE you.

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Re: The Auroroa Shooter -Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2012, 10:52:38 PM »
Let me break all this down for you again because you missed it the first time.   You accused me of refusing to accept that I had insulted WHD when, in your estimation, I had.  In response, what I did was demonstrate the following:  (1)  I know how to insult people; (2) I own up to insulting people when I intentionally do so; and (3) I don't fear being "napalmed" because I have insulted people (whether I did so intentionally or not).  Dude, I've been doing this since alt.flame in the 1980s, and I truly am above it in my twilight years.  But you drove me to the demonstration, Illargi, Jr.  I was fully aware of what I was doing when I did it.  I see your Josey Wales and raise you a "Blondie."

You got me beat going back to the 80s on alt.flame, I didn't get going on the Napalm Contests online until the 90s and AOL and Yahoo Boards. However, I am a Quick Study and made up for Lost Time there. LOL.

Far as the "Ilargi Jr." characterization goes, it is innacurate.  First off, I don't BAN or CENSOR anyone who engages me in a Napalm Contest.  Second, I wait until the Other Napalm Artist throws the first Punch. I don't START the contests,but I DO FINISH THEM.

Insofar as engaging you on specific points NOT related to ad hom Napalm of other Diners, when you make such a point not couched in a Koan Riddle that actually makes coherent sense to me, I'll rebut it if I disagree with it or buttress it if I agree.  In general though, I cannot find enough substantive meat there to go either way.  Every time I read your material I feel like I am watching an Episode of Kung Fu. The only thing Meaningful I ever got out of that stuff was when Kwai Chang Caine Kicked the LIVING SHIT out of the Bad Guys. Perhaps this is a Limitation of my Rational Brain, dunno.  As you have mentioned, I may be just a bit TOO RATIONAL to grasp your arguments.

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Re: The Auroroa Shooter -Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 02:35:11 AM »
It's kind of sick that anybody would use this mass murder to score political points and push his own agenda.  Whether it's Obama, the NRA or Alex Jones, it's just sick.

Welcome to America, where every tragedy is a spectacle "personalized" to confirm your worldview.  Fuck that the corpses used to be people.  They died for our amusement and speculation.  It feels just like Christmas.

They sure can turn your stomach. Another wonderful story to score some points with MSM lice trampling over one another to get a scoop or exclusive with that make believe look of horror on their imbecilic faces as they act for the camera. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2012, 03:34:41 AM »
Quote RE "The only thing Meaningful I ever got out of that stuff was when Kwai Chang Caine Kicked the LIVING SHIT out of the Bad Guys."

Good old Caine was just marvelous. What he could do to a bar room full of drunk bullies in a couple of minutes was mind boggling. That was television at it's finest.  :laugh:

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Re: The Auroroa Shooter -Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 12:27:45 PM »
Nothing like a good, old-fashioned Doomstead diner bar fight . . .

Now back to the article WHD posted by Mike Adams of Natural News.

The questions remain:
1) how did an unemployed medical student drawing unemployment get the $$$ for his kit, including ballistic armor and two AR-15s?
2) How did he get the training?
3) According to available reports, this guy is on nobody's radar. Nobody's. And I guarantee you, I am on their radar for the High Crime of standing outside of banks and holding signs.
4) Why did he booby-trap his apartment, then tell the cops?
5) How did he come by the knowledge of building booby traps that were news to experienced cops?

Why did nobody fight back?
Another interesting article here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036537_James_Holmes_Batman_shooting.html



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