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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #315 on: August 16, 2020, 10:08:38 PM »
If you can identify this morning's fresh shit outside the house, you know for sure if it's the island with the bushy bikiniline coastline. where Eharmony or tinder don't allow matches within 250km

I'm not interested in getting that close.  Just which continent or island you reside upon.

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The triangular inbreeding island is only 250 wide and 250 long. With the poop, think of looney tunes cartoon characters...
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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #316 on: August 16, 2020, 11:18:00 PM »
If you can identify this morning's fresh shit outside the house, you know for sure if it's the island with the bushy bikiniline coastline. where Eharmony or tinder don't allow matches within 250km

I'm not interested in getting that close.  Just which continent or island you reside upon.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-GQ63NStxk
The triangular inbreeding island is only 250 wide and 250 long. With the poop, think of looney tunes cartoon characters...

This URL brings up nothing.  Just answer a direct question wwith a direct answer please.  Stop being evasive.

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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #317 on: August 17, 2020, 12:19:43 AM »
If you can identify this morning's fresh shit outside the house, you know for sure if it's the island with the bushy bikiniline coastline. where Eharmony or tinder don't allow matches within 250km

I'm not interested in getting that close.  Just which continent or island you reside upon.

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Ah, I finally got this url to register.  So you do live on Tasmania.   Are you an Aussie or a transplant from elsewhere?

You should meet up with Uncle Bob.   :icon_sunny:

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The triangular inbreeding island is only 250 wide and 250 long. With the poop, think of looney tunes cartoon characters...
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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #318 on: August 17, 2020, 12:30:49 AM »
If you can identify this morning's fresh shit outside the house, you know for sure if it's the island with the bushy bikiniline coastline. where Eharmony or tinder don't allow matches within 250km

I'm not interested in getting that close.  Just which continent or island you reside upon.

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Ah, I finally got this url to register.  So you do live on Tasmania.   Are you an Aussie or a transplant from elsewhere?

You should meet up with Uncle Bob.   :icon_sunny:

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The triangular inbreeding island is only 250 wide and 250 long. With the poop, think of looney tunes cartoon characters...

I heard that handsome DEVIL forgot his password. Rumpolestiltskin likes brain teasers though.
The loony tunes character that took that dump is not coyote, bugs bunny, bulldog, Elmer fud, or Daffy duck. It's one that spins around like a tornado in the cartoons and near extinction irl.

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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #319 on: August 17, 2020, 12:38:26 AM »
If you can identify this morning's fresh shit outside the house, you know for sure if it's the island with the bushy bikiniline coastline. where Eharmony or tinder don't allow matches within 250km

I'm not interested in getting that close.  Just which continent or island you reside upon.

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Ah, I finally got this url to register.  So you do live on Tasmania.   Are you an Aussie or a transplant from elsewhere?

You should meet up with Uncle Bob.   :icon_sunny:

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The triangular inbreeding island is only 250 wide and 250 long. With the poop, think of looney tunes cartoon characters...

I heard that handsome DEVIL forgot his password and created a new account, Rumpolestiltskin likes brain teasers though.
The loony tunes character that took that dump is not coyote, bugs bunny, bulldog, Elmer fud, or Daffy duck. It's one that spins around like a tornado in the cartoons and near extinction irl.

Uncle Bob!  You're BACK!   :icon_sunny:

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⛏️ Trump set to block controversial Alaska gold mine
« Reply #320 on: August 23, 2020, 06:07:48 AM »
A good result, but it's not due to environmental concerns of Trumpovetsky.  It's economics.  The mine was never going to be profitable.  About nobody up here supported it besides the mine developers and their lobbyists.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/22/trump-set-to-block-alaska-pebble-mine-400206

Trump set to block controversial Alaska gold mine

The about-face by the administration likely signals more about issues with this specific mine than a sea change in Trump’s overall support for big development projects.

Workers with the Pebble Mine project test drill in the Bristol Bay region of Alaska, near the village of Iliamma, in July 2007. | Al Grillo/AP Photo

By ZACK COLMAN and ALEX GUILLÉN

08/22/2020 01:00 PM EDT

Updated: 08/22/2020 07:04 PM EDT


The Trump administration is planning to block the proposed Pebble Mine in Alaska early next week, six people familiar with the plans told POLITICO, marking a surprise reversal that could be the death knell for the massive copper and gold project.

Environmentalists and conservation groups have warned that the project would threaten world’s largest sockeye salmon fishery, and the move to block it comes after President Donald Trump faced pressure to nix it from an array of interests, including GOP mega-donor Andy Sabin, Bass Pro Shops CEO Johnny Morris and the his eldest son, Donald Trump, Jr.

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“With any government, whether it be Obama or Trump, nothing is certain until it happens and that’s just the nature of this beast,” Sabin, who has spoken directly with Trump about the proposed mine, told POLITICO. “But I’m fairly certain that you’re going to get good news.”

The Army Corps of Engineers office in Alaska is planning to hold a conference call on Monday with groups connected to the proposed mine discuss the decision, three people with knowledge of the call told POLITICO. An administration official confirmed the call with POLITICO.

Corps officials will say outstanding technical issues with a key permit remain, the people said, adding they anticipate Trump will then follow with a public statement opposing the project. The people said they're not entirely sure what form Trump's disavowal will take, although they said it is more likely to come as a rejection of the Army Corps of Pebble’s water permits rather than a veto from EPA, which earlier this year indicated it would not exercise that power.

“There are people that have been told there will be a [Corps] press event and that it will be positive,” said a Washington-based person who works on efforts opposing the mine and who requested anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations.

White House spokesman Judd Deere directed POLITICO to the Army Corps.

"The White House is not in a position to comment at this time," he said in an email. Neither the Army Corps nor EPA immediately responded to requests for comment.

But Pebble Partnership CEO Tom Collier, who worked as chief of staff for Clinton-era Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, denied that the project was about to be blocked.

"We’ve worked with the Trump administration and the message that we have received from the Trump administration has been that this is a president who believes that there’s no place in the permitting process for political influence," Collier said.

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"I do not believe he will be returning to Obama-like interference in the permitting process. We have those assurances that he will not do so," he added.

In a statement issued Saturday evening, Collier again disputed this story and said Pebble was told earlier in the week to expect a letter on Monday calling for "a significant amount" of compensatory mitigation, in which Pebble promises to restore or preserve other nearby wetlands to make up for those affected by the mine, a standard step in the Army Corps' permitting process.

"This has been our working premise for quite some time and has been the focus of our recent efforts near the site to complete additional wetlands survey work to better inform our plan," Collier said in the statement. He added that the time needed to develop a plan might delay a decision beyond what was previously expected, but that the company will provide the Corps with any needed information "as soon as possible" with the goal of remaining on track.

The Pebble Mine has been planned to be built in the headwaters for Bristol Bay, home of the world's biggest sockeye fishery which provides up to 11 percent of all wild salmon harvests.

“I have been there more than 10 times. It is like no place on Earth,” Trout Unlimited CEO Chris Wood told POLITICO.

The about-face by the administration likely signals more about issues with this specific mine than a sea change in Trump’s overall support for big development projects. But with Trump expected to let it die and his White House challenger Democrat Joe Biden opposed to the project, Pebble Mine appears to have few options to advance it despite more than a decade of planning, ownership changes and political fights.

At the end of July, Trump’s administration appeared to be on track to approve the project as early as this month over the protests of environmentalists and Alaskan Native groups opposed to the 8,400-acre open pit mine.

Then in early August, Trump signed the Great American Outdoors Act, which secured almost $1 billion a year for conservation work. “There hasn't been anything like this since Teddy Roosevelt, I suspect,” Trump said. Later that day, Trump's son Donald Jr. publicly raised the issue of the controversial mine project, tweeting along with Nick Ayers, former chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, to urge Trump to reject Pebble.

The duo cited outdoors recreation groups' concerns that it threatens the Bristol Bay salmon fishery, which is commercially important and an increasingly popular destination for adventurous anglers.
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Joining the hook-and-bullet crowd’s influence campaign was Fox News host Tucker Carlson, one of the president’s favorite TV personalities who elevated the matter in an Aug. 14 segment called “The Case Against Alaska's Pebble Mine.” Carlson and his guest, Bass Pro Shops founder Morris, invoked Theodore Roosevelt, who Trump had just called “truly the great conservation President” — and who he's suggested he should join on Mount Rushmore.

Trump has been unabashedly pro-mining, though that has been largely focused on coal mining; Pebble would mine a large deposit of copper, gold, molybdenum and silver ore, so it has no direct connection to the issue of climate change.

“Maybe not all environmentalism is about climate,” Carlson said on his show.

Long-held skepticism about the mine from many Alaskans should also provide Trump some political cover. The late Republican Sen. Ted Stevens in 2008 famously called it “the wrong mine for the wrong place.” And while she has yet to ultimately take a side, Senate Energy and Natural Resources Chair Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) in 2019 questioned Pebble’s environmental impacts.

Shortly after the Trump administration took office, it settled a lawsuit with the mine’s developer that included withdrawing the Obama-era proposal to preemptively veto the mine. Instead, the mine would be allowed to continue through the permitting process at the Army Corps of Engineers.

As a consulting agency, EPA last year was critical of the Corps’ environmental study, warning of “substantial and unacceptable adverse impacts” on the fisheries. But EPA in May indicated it was backing off those criticisms and would not use its Clean Water Act power to veto the project’s permits.

EPA’s criticisms were based on unique characteristics that ultimately managed to bring environmentalists and Trump to the same side.

The mine, being developed by a U.S. subsidiary of the Canadian company Northern Dynasty Minerals, was proposed to tap a huge reserve on state land a few miles north of Iliamna Lake. The mine plan calls for producing an average of 70 million tons of copper, gold and molybdenum ore annually over 20 years, amounts worth potentially hundreds of billions of dollars. The mine’s opponents argue the company would eventually push to expand the mine to extract even more of the deposit.

The Corps determined in July that Pebble Mine "would not be expected to have a measurable effect on fish numbers and result in long-term changes to the health of the commercial fisheries in Bristol Bay."

But the commercial fishing industry, recreation groups, environmentalists and local Native Alaskan groups have all long complained about the destruction of streams critical to salmon’s procreation and the danger of mining waste contaminating the bay.
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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #321 on: August 29, 2020, 08:42:04 PM »
Planted 16 trees this week. About 10 or 11 varieties. All natives and all bird attracting.
Various Banjsias, Hakeas, Calistemons, Acacias and Gums.
I do like my Calistemons. (Bottle brushes). I have about a dozen trees is at least 5 o6 varieties and colours now.
I think my new favourite tree might be the snow gun I just planted. Only small now, but will be a spectacular tree in 50 years or so, and a monster in 100.

Have another 5 trees to plant when I figure out where to put them!
Might do me for the rest of the year actually...

Pretty well back on track for a tree a week until I die I think.

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💡 California’s Climate Crisis Is Deepening as 500,000 Go Dark
« Reply #322 on: September 09, 2020, 12:55:45 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-08/california-power-crisis-worsens-with-pg-e-ordering-outages

California’s Climate Crisis Is Deepening as 500,000 Go Dark
By Joe Ryan and Brian Eckhouse
September 7, 2020, 5:31 PM AKDT Updated on September 8, 2020, 8:35 AM AKDT


    Dry and windy weather creates conditions ripe for wildfires
    Oregon utility cuts power for first time in response to fires

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In a matter of weeks, California has been hit with two record-breaking heat waves, hundreds of blazes, freak lightning storms and dangerously poor air quality, and now unusually strong winds are threatening to knock down power lines and ignite more wildfires.

That’s prompting the state’s largest utility to impose power cuts for more than 500,000 people, and with dangerous conditions stretching across the West, Portland General Electric Co. has also switched off power to some Oregon customers.

The shutoffs that PG&E Corp. began late Monday are the latest blow for the disaster-weary California, where climate change is making weather ever more extreme. Temperatures have soared to records from Napa to Los Angeles. Wildfires have torched more than 2.2 million acres, the most in records stretching back three decades. Hundreds of thousands of people may go dark for days while trapped indoors due to wildfire smoke and Covid-19 outbreaks.

Officials are responding with equally extreme measures. In August, California carried out its first rotating blackouts since the 2001 energy crisis, drawing the ire of millions who went powerless amid extreme temperatures. The Trump administration declared a power emergency, allowing power plants to run at full bore, regardless of environmental limits.
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The preventative shutoffs that began late Monday are a fairly new and controversial practice, and their use last year triggered investigations while utilities defended them as necessary in the face of increasingly wild weather.

Now, as a second round of ferocious temperatures abates, so-called Diablo winds sweeping in have set the conditions for even more outages. PG&E, which filed for bankruptcy last year after its equipment sparked deadly wildfires, warned the precautionary shutoffs could impact portions of 22 counties from late Monday through Wednesday, including in the Sierra foothills and North Bay.
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“Unfortunately, the continued hot and dry weather is going to continue to dry out vegetation across California -- and make that vegetation even more susceptible to new admissions and large fires,” Scott Strenfel, a PG&E meteorologist, said during a public briefing late Monday.

PG&E, which emerged from Chapter 11 in July after agreeing to pay $25.5 billion to settle wildfire lawsuits, said shutoffs could leave about 172,000 homes and businesses in the dark. That could impact up to 516,000 people, based on the size of the average California household.

Shutoffs were expected to affect about 104,000 customers starting from 9 p.m. local time Monday, with the remainder going down in two phases Tuesday. Some customers may not have power restored until 9 p.m. Wednesday, according to an announcement Tuesday morning.

PG&E also plans to turn off about 100 transmission lines and 145 distribution lines, it said during the briefing.

The state’s two other major utilities are also making plans to cut power if necessary. Southern California Edison Co. said it may shut off electricity to more than 66,000 customers Wednesday, and San Diego Gas & Electric Co. is considering doing so for more than 16,000 customers.

In Oregon, high winds have knocked out electricity to about 80,000 Portland General customers, and for the first time the company intentionally cut power to about 5,000 homes and businesses near Mt. Hood.

The U.S. Forest Service said in a statement Monday that most of California “remains under the threat of unprecedented and dangerous fire conditions.” It has temporarily closed eight national forests, including Sierra National Forest.

“Existing fires are displaying extreme fire behavior, new fire starts are likely, weather conditions are worsening, and we simply do not have enough resources to fully fight and contain every fire,” Randy Moore, regional forester for the forest service’s Pacific Southwest Region, said in the statement.
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A firefighter douses flames during the Creek fire in the Cascadel Woods area of California on Sept. 7, 2020.

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California narrowly escaped rotating blackouts Saturday and Sunday, as temperatures soared past 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius) in much of the state, squeezing the power grid to its brink. The fires only made things worse, taking down power plants and transmission lines, cutting power to 70,000 homes and businesses.

The heat is poised to ebb only slightly Tuesday. Sacramento is forecast to hit 97. Oakland will be 91. And Los Angeles will be 87.

The latest blazes are already wreaking havoc on the grid. The Creek Fire in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, which has scorched more than 78,000 acres, knocked out transmission from a hydro plant on Saturday.

September and October typically mark the peak of California’s fire season, when plants have been sapped of moisture by the state’s dry summer. Rains most often return in October or November.

Last year, when California’s utilities first began carrying out widespread blackouts like this, some homes and businesses were left in the dark for days. That drew outrage from state and local officials, triggered investigations and prompted PG&E to reassess the scope of future shutoffs. The company has taken steps to limit the size and duration of outages, including putting wires underground in some locations.

— With assistance by David R Baker
(Updates with additional utility outage plans in 11th paragraph.)
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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #323 on: September 09, 2020, 05:56:45 PM »
Its the usual story;
When you need power the most for AC is when ithe grid fails.
When you need the fire brigade the most they are busy elsewhere fighting fires burning across the state.
When you need to sell your house due to a financial downturn there are no buyers due to the same financial downturn.
When you need medical attention the most is when the system is stretched and failing.
When there is civil unrest and you need the police the most is when they are too busy elsewhere.

Collapse means we can not rely on external help and resources like emergency services, utilities and even water supply like we used to. As we go down the collapse bell curve we will need to be more self sufficient and resourceful. We are experiencing the collapse trifector; ecconomic, energy and environmental.

Money wont buy you electricity if the grid is down, or food if the shops are empty, or ensure your home is protected if the police are busy with the downtown riots. While services are available money will help people ignore the reality of the incoming collapse plague steadily creeping accross the globe by buying up the increasingl scarce resources and paying others to do the hard work. Long term resilliance needs self sufficiency as much as possible and community cooperation for the big items.

It aint going to be pretty. Its not pretty now in many places.

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Re: The Environment Board
« Reply #324 on: October 20, 2020, 11:49:05 PM »
Planted another tree today.
Just about dried up enough in my paddock to not need gumboots. Another 25mm due Friday. Very wet spring so far...
Eucalyptus scorpia. Sounds like a nice little tree.

When you piss off to the big blog in the sky RE, I will plant a tree in your honour sunshine.
I reakon it definately needs to be thorny though.
Should probably handle the cold, but hardy enough to survive in many areas.
Will be pest attracting for sure.
Should probably bear fruit too.
Maybe not known to be an attractive specimen tree though...
Should definately be useful in a SHTF situation.
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What do you think?



A tree a week until I die.

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