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Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« on: December 30, 2015, 10:21:50 AM »
It's guys like this that convince me there is no way we are going Extinct inside 20 years.

No industrial tools, no metal implements, full Stone Age technology.  Very impressive.

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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 10:30:27 AM »
We never had nice straight trees like that here, nor rocks like that.

Here, we had buffalo.

We are fucked, if we have to use stone age tools. LOL.
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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 10:55:40 AM »
I wonder if that stone axe enhances his reproductive chances. He does have impressive skillz with tools, I have to say.
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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 11:18:25 AM »
We never had nice straight trees like that here, nor rocks like that.

Here, we had buffalo.

We are fucked, if we have to use stone age tools. LOL.

Yah, the neighborhood he built this hut is well gifted with good stone age resources.  He's got local Clay, great Rocks both flat and round, plenty of water and plenty of firewood to burn also.  You can see clearly how once we started doing Ceramics and Metallurgy how this was what took us over the edge of sustainability on the energy level.  Just cooking food or heating a small hut you are probably still sustainable.  The ceramics and metals take too much energy for that.  You also could only build a hut of this design and materials in a few such well gifted places with resources.

However, my guess is this fellow could probably build some kind of reasonable shelter in just about any environment that provided enough food to support a Homo Sap. He's clearly dedicated to this stuff like Peter Michael Bauer is. That Clay Tile Roof is wholly unnecessary though, he could have done it with thatch.  Wouldn't last as long, but much less energy intensive.

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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 11:43:13 AM »
Here he is building a simpler thatch hut, plus adding in his own garden around it.

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This one only took him 3 days, as opposed to 2 months for the other one.

Of course, there are no Palm Fronds in TX either.  lol.

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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 10:02:42 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uwtu_DARM9I

Love it   :emthup:  Just seeing the surroundings makes me heave a hugh sigh of peace and contentment.  Why isn't the Diner all like this?

Loads of big palms here, and the base of each leaf that clasps the stem can be flattened and dried to produce big, light tiles.  This one is 3 foot by 18":



Of course they only last a year, but if you spend 362 days collecting from the immediate area and drying flat, and 3 days re-roofing, I reckon that's OK.

There are no natural rocks here, but loads of stone tools lying in the top layer of dirt, plus table/anvil stones that must have been carried here.  This one fits the hand beautifully, and is ideal for scraping the soft flesh off the very bristly fruit of a Pandanus.  Other chisel tools for breaking into the nutritious nut kernels inside.



If you send the kids off to play in the creek (while you get on with the serious business of drinking) and reward them if they bring back the white rocks (quartz), then you heat the rock up in the fire, and then chuck it in a bucket of water, whereupon it shatters into a million tiny razor-sharp fragments - perfect for gutting a fish, and the odd one good for a spear/arrow tip or piercing tool.  They get blunted very easily, and chucked away - thousands round here.



The big danger is losing contact with your roots, or at least the locals' roots, from before industrial civilisation.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2016, 10:52:52 PM by Palloy »
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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 01:04:06 AM »
The 2.5m diameter,  makes it under the 3x3m exemption for getting a permit and inspections too.
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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 05:46:15 AM »
It's guys like this that convince me there is no way we are going Extinct inside 20 years.

No industrial tools, no metal implements, full Stone Age technology.  Very impressive.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/P73REgj-3UE" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/P73REgj-3UE</a>

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Looks like a bunch of work to me. No wonder people choose to figure out science and engineering, learned how to build backhoes and make cement and stuff.

I wonder if laziness could actually be an evolutionary advantage? We want to be lazy, this poor guy was doing so much work, so the smarter folks sitting around say "fuck that, someone help me figure out how to make a steam engine and mine some of that burnable rock other there"....in which case, the LAST point mankind will ever go back to, will be the stone age. As long as our brains are working, we will just decide to do something smarter, and less calorie intensive, instead.
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Re: Shelter Building doing the Full Primitive
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2017, 01:54:04 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uwtu_DARM9I

Love it   :emthup:

Loads of big palms here, and the base of each leaf that clasps the stem can be flattened and dried to produce big, light tiles.  This one is 3 foot by 18":



Of course they only last a year, but if you spend 362 days collecting from the immediate area and drying, and 3 days re-roofing, I reckon that's OK.

There are loads of stone tools lying in the top layer of dirt here.  This one fits the hand beautifully, and is ideal for scraping the soft flesh off the very bristly fruit of a Pandanus.  Other chisel tools for breaking into the nutritious nut kernels inside.



If you send the kids off to play in the creek (while you get on with the serious business of drinking) and reward them if they bring back the white rocks (quartz), then you heat the rock up in the fire, and then chuck it in a bucket of water, whereupon it shatters into a million tiny razor-sharp fragments - perfect for gutting a fish, and the odd one good for a spear/arrow tip or piercing tool.  They get blunted very easily, and chucked away - thousands round here.



The big danger is losing contact with your roots, or at least the locals' roots, from before industrial civilisation.
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