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The Bloomberg Effect
« on: January 25, 2016, 05:45:05 PM »
What would it do to the election campaign if Bloomberg jumped in, as he is threatening to do if Hillary doesn't get the nod from the Dems?

He is pro-choice and pro-gun control, and he's a billionaire, worth 100 times what Trump is. He would be a third party candidate.

I don't think he'd sway many Trump supporters, because they aren't rational anyway. He'd probably split the liberal vote and give the election to the Donald, which is exactly what he doesn't want...but maybe he hates Bernie even more.

Interesting development.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/01/25/bloomberg-possible-presidential-bid/
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2016, 05:53:28 PM »
He hates Cruz too, evidently.

I'm trying to decide if he's some kind of bankster back-up plan, just in case none of their chosen candidates makes the play-offs.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2016, 05:55:04 PM »
What would it do to the election campaign if Bloomberg jumped in, as he is threatening to do if Hillary doesn't get the nod from the Dems?

He is pro-choice and pro-gun control, and he's a billionaire, worth 100 times what Trump is. He would be a third party candidate.

I don't think he'd sway many Trump supporters, because they aren't rational anyway. He'd probably split the liberal vote and give the election to the Donald, which is exactly what he doesn't want...but maybe he hates Bernie even more.

Interesting development


The only reason he would run is if he WANTS Trump to win.  Or somebody above him does.

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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2016, 06:06:12 PM »
He hates Cruz too, evidently.

I'm trying to decide if he's some kind of bankster back-up plan, just in case none of their chosen candidates makes the play-offs.

You mean like Christy or O'Malley?

It is funny that an intelligent guy like you Eddie appears to fall for the hyper-competence of GovCo or BanksterCo or some combination thereof, while ignoring all the evidence to the contrary that any such competence exists.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2016, 06:24:25 PM »
Wall street is used to having most candidates in the bag by this stage in the campaign.

They aren't so competent as they are fabulously wealthy and willing to spend money to get what they want. Bloomberg is a maverick by Wall Street standards, but i think he'd be far more palatable to them than Trump or Sanders. I think they'd be happy with Cruz, though.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2016, 06:59:16 PM »
Wall street is used to having most candidates in the bag by this stage in the campaign.

They don't have the ability to pick any one, thus the illusion of hyper competence. They just fund them all, a much cleaner way of getting what they want. They don't have a pick, they have influence. Which is often enough.

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They aren't so competent as they are fabulously wealthy and willing to spend money to get what they want. Bloomberg is a maverick by Wall Street standards, but i think he'd be far more palatable to them than Trump or Sanders. I think they'd be happy with Cruz, though.

Given a choice between status quo, socialists, demagogues, door mats, I want to see the wackiest of the bunch win. I'm not quite sure who that is though. Certainly not Hitlary, the establishment doormat has already disqualified herself by lacking any fundamental principles or character.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2016, 09:39:09 AM »
I want to see the wackiest of the bunch win.

Cruz is scary to me. A smart demagogue who knows how to appeal to the lowest common denominator. He's a corporate whore in tea-party drag.

Trump is a dictator in training, a loose cannon and a megalomaniacal idiot. No telling what he might do, and I don't mean that in a nice way.

Hillary....I'm with you on Hillary.

Sanders...I expect we'd see what it would look like if Don Quixote were elected POTUS, lots of tilting at windmills. I like the promise to be a trust-buster, but I'm afraid he would try to spend money even more lavishly (if that's possible) than the rest, and he'd love to tax guys like me into penury.

Bloomberg...kind of a Hillary who isn't quite as corrupt.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2016, 10:49:42 AM »
I see Bloomberg as a Trump spoiler to elect Hilary.

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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2016, 11:00:14 AM »
From what I gather, Bloomberg supports Hillary, and doesn't intend to mount a campaign unless she doesn't get the nomination. Perhaps that is not true, or things are in flux as we speak. (Or I'm just wrong.)

To me. if he were in the race now, he'd hurt Hillary and Sanders both by splitting the moderate/liberal vote. He wouldn't take away anything from Cruz, he's too liberal and he's not Christian. I doubt he'd pull much from Trump. Trump has the Know-Nothing vote locked up.



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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2016, 12:31:47 PM »
From what I gather, Bloomberg supports Hillary, and doesn't intend to mount a campaign unless she doesn't get the nomination. Perhaps that is not true, or things are in flux as we speak. (Or I'm just wrong.)

To me. if he were in the race now, he'd hurt Hillary and Sanders both by splitting the moderate/liberal vote. He wouldn't take away anything from Cruz, he's too liberal and he's not Christian. I doubt he'd pull much from Trump. Trump has the Know-Nothing vote locked up.

And what shall we call the Hillary voters, the Know-Something vote?

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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2016, 12:39:52 PM »
From what I gather, Bloomberg supports Hillary, and doesn't intend to mount a campaign unless she doesn't get the nomination. Perhaps that is not true, or things are in flux as we speak. (Or I'm just wrong.)

To me. if he were in the race now, he'd hurt Hillary and Sanders both by splitting the moderate/liberal vote. He wouldn't take away anything from Cruz, he's too liberal and he's not Christian. I doubt he'd pull much from Trump. Trump has the Know-Nothing vote locked up.

And what shall we call the Hillary voters, the Know-Something vote?
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2016, 12:55:17 PM »
And what shall we call the Hillary voters, the Know-Something vote?

I call them my wife....Seriously, she is strong with the women, and mainstream liberals who don't look past the spin. And a lot of blacks who voted for Bill.

Most people don't understand how we're under the thumb of the banks, and how she is their chosen tool.

Unfortunately, the criteria for becoming POTUS (among the rank and file)  is far too much like the criteria for being class president in high school, than it is having anything to do with reality. She will win many, many votes, strictly because she's a woman.

I'm not a fan of Hillary. That doesn't make Trump a decent candidate. He's an abominable candidate.

I think it's interesting that a Bernie Sanders can gain traction but a Rand Paul cannot. They are similar in many ways. They both are willing to take on the big banks. They are both anti-military, anti-war.

As far as I can see, where Paul loses is in being a fiscal conservative. Americans, the great masses of them, are socialists whether they admit it or not. They don't like the term, because they've been taught not to...but at heart, most of them want big government that gives them free stuff.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2016, 01:22:02 PM »
And what shall we call the Hillary voters, the Know-Something vote?

I call them my wife....Seriously, she is strong with the women, and mainstream liberals who don't look past the spin. And a lot of blacks who voted for Bill.

Most people don't understand how we're under the thumb of the banks, and how she is their chosen tool.

Unfortunately, the criteria for becoming POTUS (among the rank and file)  is far too much like the criteria for being class president in high school, than it is having anything to do with reality. She will win many, many votes, strictly because she's a woman.

I'm not a fan of Hillary. That doesn't make Trump a decent candidate. He's an abominable candidate.

I think it's interesting that a Bernie Sanders can gain traction but a Rand Paul cannot. They are similar in many ways. They both are willing to take on the big banks. They are both anti-military, anti-war.

As far as I can see, where Paul loses is in being a fiscal conservative. Americans, the great masses of them, are socialists whether they admit it or not. They don't like the term, because they've been taught not to...but at heart, most of them want big government that gives them free stuff.

The whole bunch are such a Motley Crew Eddie, that I have nothing constructive to say.

Except that America deserves better, much better.

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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2016, 02:36:15 PM »
We need much better I don't know that we deserve it except that there are innocents among us.
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Re: The Bloomberg Effect
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2016, 02:46:22 PM »
And what shall we call the Hillary voters, the Know-Something vote?

I call them my wife....Seriously, she is strong with the women, and mainstream liberals who don't look past the spin. And a lot of blacks who voted for Bill.

Most people don't understand how we're under the thumb of the banks, and how she is their chosen tool.

Unfortunately, the criteria for becoming POTUS (among the rank and file)  is far too much like the criteria for being class president in high school, than it is having anything to do with reality. She will win many, many votes, strictly because she's a woman.

I'm not a fan of Hillary. That doesn't make Trump a decent candidate. He's an abominable candidate.

I think it's interesting that a Bernie Sanders can gain traction but a Rand Paul cannot. They are similar in many ways. They both are willing to take on the big banks. They are both anti-military, anti-war.

As far as I can see, where Paul loses is in being a fiscal conservative. Americans, the great masses of them, are socialists whether they admit it or not. They don't like the term, because they've been taught not to...but at heart, most of them want big government that gives them free stuff.

The whole bunch are such a Motley Crew Eddie, that I have nothing constructive to say.

Except that America deserves better, much better.



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