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Re: Golden Oxen's Newz Channel
« Reply #1275 on: February 12, 2018, 11:37:00 AM »
I have no real clue about the NK game plan...other than it looked to me up until now like it was just a way to try to cut the US out of the negotiations between the 2 Koreas.

If Pence is really doing any dealing behind the scenes, I have no idea what that would be about. Ask AZ.
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« Reply #1276 on: February 12, 2018, 01:37:55 PM »
Who knows? Maybe Fatty's sister can save the world from certain nuclear Armageddon. It's good she's talking to Pence, who is the POTUS-in-waiting for the Fossil Fuel planet destroyer elites. It's just a count-down now until he's your President.

Hold the fuck on, boyz.

From everything I have seen reported, Pence has pointedly avoided spending time with and/or encountering Kim's sister and the NK delegation. Refusing to stand for the unified Korean Olympic team as they marched into the stadium Friday night. Skipping a state dinner. Acting as fat Nixon's Designated Lout.

All this reporting as the worn-out whore NY Times publishes THIS picture:


That goes with this article:
Kim Jong-un’s Sister Turns On the Charm, Taking Pence’s Spotlight
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/11/world/asia/kim-yo-jong-mike-pence-olympics.html

Pence's asshat performance was such that it occasioned memes and tweets about how his job is to go to sporting events and throw tantrums. The point of the Times article was that Ms. Kim had out charm-offensived Pence, which is easy, because he has as much charm as a bucket of warm piss.

So... are they meeting? did they meet? Or have i misread your comments? It is equally as likely that I have misunderstood what you said as it is that the MSM is dogging or failing to report on such a meeting.

My thought was that Pence's job was to throw an American turd in the Korean punchbowl to further appease the hard right in this country (as if they need any more appeasing.) If there is a hidden diplomatic subtext that is unreported on, that would be interesting AF.

So whaa?

A more cogent view of Pence and his Korea appearance.I'd post the whole thing but it's full of pics and tweets. Better just to click. This is Mike Shedlock, and I think he gets it.

https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/peace-the-one-thing-the-us-warmongers-do-not-want-xtKgD3UtMUKUzSmyeCrEkg
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Re: Golden Oxen's Newz Channel
« Reply #1277 on: February 12, 2018, 02:02:13 PM »
I think the Deep State USMIC/CIA/NSA has one agenda and the Goldman Sachs, Warburgs, Rothschilds, Rockefellers have another. Neither is looking out for the interests of guys like us.
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Re: Golden Oxen's Newz Channel
« Reply #1278 on: February 12, 2018, 04:01:15 PM »
A more cogent view of Pence and his Korea appearance.I'd post the whole thing but it's full of pics and tweets. Better just to click. This is Mike Shedlock, and I think he gets it.

https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/peace-the-one-thing-the-us-warmongers-do-not-want-xtKgD3UtMUKUzSmyeCrEkg

This here is the shit. Thanks, Eddie. I do believe he does get it.

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The world should welcome peace overtures between the divided Koreas. But the one thing none of these warmongers want is peace.

That's what's chilling.

Which is why the war profiteers created the Islamic Threat in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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Re: Golden Oxen's Newz Channel
« Reply #1279 on: February 12, 2018, 06:19:43 PM »
A more cogent view of Pence and his Korea appearance.I'd post the whole thing but it's full of pics and tweets. Better just to click. This is Mike Shedlock, and I think he gets it.

https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/peace-the-one-thing-the-us-warmongers-do-not-want-xtKgD3UtMUKUzSmyeCrEkg



Some things never change.


What do Kolin Kaefernick & Mike Pence have in common.

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Re: Golden Oxen's Newz Channel
« Reply #1280 on: February 13, 2018, 05:51:30 AM »
Didn't Pence say publicly something like "North Korea is trying to wedge South Korea and the US alliance."  Somebody said it anyway. They were right. And what is the US going to do about it? - insist it won't happen, except it already has. There is lots Kim can say/give to keep the Moon faction on the path to reconciliation, in return for undermining sanctions and the US alliance.

Don't forget the US invaded almost the whole of the North, all by moving troops in trucks, and supplies by plane, while 60,000 Chinese invaded on foot and surrounded them and drove them out.  They were stuck where a bridge was destroyed, and after they rebuilt it, they fled back the South and were lucky to escape with a draw.

Good video: "The Battle of Chosin" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erCtuu76P00 [1:53:56]
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« Reply #1281 on: February 13, 2018, 06:16:04 AM »
The Korean War was a proxy war. The US and China were the serious combatants. Since then a whole lot of water has flowed under that bridge you mentioned.

It isn't at all clear that China's best interests are served at this point by continuing to back the belligerent Kim Jong Un. He walks a tightrope. 

He has his own huge military, but not much means of paying for a war. His best bet in a war is to strike fast and hard and wreak maximum damage on the South. China has 2.3 million ground troops, not to mention nukes, but they have signed a "no first use" pledge. I truly wonder what the Chinese would do if Kim Young Fatty attacks. I can't see a situation where that happens. It'd be suicide.

I vote the Korean peninsula "Most Likely To Become A Smoking Ruin " sometime in the next few years UNLESS the two Koreas can do an end run around the US Deep State, which seems unlikely...but who knows?
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Re: Golden Oxen's Newz Channel
« Reply #1282 on: February 13, 2018, 05:12:17 PM »
Didn't Pence say publicly something like "North Korea is trying to wedge South Korea and the US alliance."  Somebody said it anyway. They were right. And what is the US going to do about it? - insist it won't happen, except it already has. There is lots Kim can say/give to keep the Moon faction on the path to reconciliation, in return for undermining sanctions and the US alliance.

Don't forget the US invaded almost the whole of the North, all by moving troops in trucks, and supplies by plane, while 60,000 Chinese invaded on foot and surrounded them and drove them out.  They were stuck where a bridge was destroyed, and after they rebuilt it, they fled back the South and were lucky to escape with a draw.

Every word true, from what I have read.

In terms of bargaining, Seoul is home to 9M souls, all of whom are very vulnerable to NK bombardment, should things go bad.
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Re: Golden Oxen's News Channel- ALERT ALERT! Major EARTHQUAKE in MEXIXO
« Reply #1283 on: February 16, 2018, 04:09:31 PM »
DEVELOPING: Buildings shake in Mexico City after magnitude 7.5 earthquake hits southwestern Mexico :o

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Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants
« Reply #1284 on: February 18, 2018, 09:38:03 AM »

                     


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Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants for Emotional Issues
Rachel Blevins


Parkland, Florida – At least 17 people were killed and 15 were wounded during a mass shooting at a high school in Florida on Wednesday, and the reports that have been released about the suspect indicate that he was taking medications for depression and emotional issues that come packed with dangerous side effects.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, is accused of entering Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and opening fire on his fellow students after he was previously expelled for disciplinary reasons that have not been made public. The Miami Herald reported that Cruz has raised red flags at school in the past, and last year a teacher submitted a warning against letting him on campus with a backpack.

Former classmates said they were not surprised by the shooting. Joshua Charo told the Herald that Cruz fit the description of a disgruntled student who would carry out a mass shooting.

“I can’t say I was shocked,” Charo said. “From past experiences, he seemed like the kind of kid who would do something like this.”

John Crescitelli shared the same sentiment, saying his son had warned him about Cruz before. “If you were to pick one person you might predict in the future would shoot up a school or do this, it would be this kid,” he said.

An Instagram account attributed to Cruz that was taken down after the shooting showed a number of photos that displayed his love for guns, knives and killing small animals and rodents.

    #BREAKING: The shooter's Istagram accounts have been taken down. (@browardsheriff said they're investigating his social media.) I've seen video of what appears to be shooter's IG before it was removed. Here are few screen grabs. Look closely.#ParklandShooting#StonemanShooting pic.twitter.com/1TpJlYl58E

    — Molly Grantham WBTV (@MollyGrantham) February 14, 2018

The people who knew Cruz described him as a troubled teenager who was adopted when he was young and then was forced to move in with a friend after both of his adopted parents died. Jim Lewis, an attorney for the family that gave Cruz a place to live after his mother died in November, told The Washington Post that they knew Cruz was depressed, but they believed he taking steps to manage his depression.

Family member Barbara Kumbatovich told the Herald, “she believed Nikolas Cruz was on medication to deal with his emotional fragility.” She was a sister-in-law of Lynda Cruz, the suspect’s mother, and she also told the Sun-Sentinel that she believes Nikolas has been on medications for several months.

“I know she had been having some issues with them, especially the older one. He was being a problem. I know he did have some issues and he may have been taking medication. [He] did have some kind of emotional or difficulties,” Kumbatovich said. “[Lynda] kept a really close handle on both boys. They were not major issues, as far as I know, just things teenagers do like not coming home on time, maybe being disrespectful.”

Janine Kartiganer, a former neighbor, also described Cruz as “very troubled,” and said, “He wore a hoodie and always had his head down. He looked depressed.”

An anonymous relative added another description, telling the Sentinel that they believed Cruz has been diagnosed with autism.

While it is not clear how many medications Cruz was taking, the pharmaceutical drugs prescribed for depression and emotional issues are packed with a number of side effects that can lead to violent behavior.

As The Free Thought Project has reported, Las Vegas shooting suspect Stephen Paddock was prescribed the anti-anxiety drug diazepam in June, a few months before he was accused of opening fire out of his bedroom window at the Mandalay Bay Hotel, and killing more than 50 people.

The side effects from diazepam include “confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior; unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger; depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself; and hyperactivity, agitation, aggression, hostility.”

Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes killed 12 people and injured 70 when he opened fire inside of a movie theater in 2012, and he was also found to have been taking the antidepressant Sertraline, a generic version of the Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) Zoloft.

Sertraline has side effects that include “aggressive reaction; mood or behavior changes; and fast talking and excited feelings or actions that are out of control.”

Gavin Long, the veteran who went on a shooting rampage in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, was prescribed Lunesta and Ativan, both of which have an extended list of adverse side effects.

Both Lunesta and Ativan have overlapping side effects of aggression, agitation, changes in behavior, hallucinations, suicidal thoughts — and homicidal ideation.

Homicidal ideation is a common medical term for thoughts about homicide. There is a range of homicidal thoughts which spans from vague ideas of revenge to detailed and fully formulated plans without the act itself.

There have been 150 studies in 17 countries on antidepressant-induced side effects. There have been 134 drug regulatory agency warnings from 11 countries and the EU warning about the dangerous side effects of antidepressants.

Despite this deadly laundry list of potential reactions to these medications, their use has skyrocketed by 400% since 1988.

Currently, 11 percent of all Americans 12 years of age and over take antidepressant medication, which is a higher rate than all other countries in the world.

An investigation conducted by the BBC found that in the United Kingdom, antidepressants have been linked to 28 reports of murder and 32 cases of murderous thoughts referred to the UK medicines regulator in the last three decades.

As details emerge from the shooting, causing several lawmakers to call for gun control, many will ignore that fact that the suspects from most of the deadliest U.S. mass shootings in recent years also had access to dangerous pharmaceutical drugs that can lead to violent behavior and can worsen the mental illnesses they are prescribed to treat.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-members-say-florida-school-shooter-antidepressants-emotional-issues/  :icon_study: :icon_study:

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Re: Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants
« Reply #1285 on: February 18, 2018, 11:30:20 AM »

                     


thefreethoughtproject.com
Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants for Emotional Issues
Rachel Blevins


Parkland, Florida – At least 17 people were killed and 15 were wounded during a mass shooting at a high school in Florida on Wednesday, and the reports that have been released about the suspect indicate that he was taking medications for depression and emotional issues that come packed with dangerous side effects.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, is accused of entering Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and opening fire on his fellow students after he was previously expelled for disciplinary reasons that have not been made public. The Miami Herald reported that Cruz has raised red flags at school in the past, and last year a teacher submitted a warning against letting him on campus with a backpack.

Former classmates said they were not surprised by the shooting. Joshua Charo told the Herald that Cruz fit the description of a disgruntled student who would carry out a mass shooting.

“I can’t say I was shocked,” Charo said. “From past experiences, he seemed like the kind of kid who would do something like this.”

John Crescitelli shared the same sentiment, saying his son had warned him about Cruz before. “If you were to pick one person you might predict in the future would shoot up a school or do this, it would be this kid,” he said.

An Instagram account attributed to Cruz that was taken down after the shooting showed a number of photos that displayed his love for guns, knives and killing small animals and rodents.

    #BREAKING: The shooter's Istagram accounts have been taken down. (@browardsheriff said they're investigating his social media.) I've seen video of what appears to be shooter's IG before it was removed. Here are few screen grabs. Look closely.#ParklandShooting#StonemanShooting pic.twitter.com/1TpJlYl58E

    — Molly Grantham WBTV (@MollyGrantham) February 14, 2018

The people who knew Cruz described him as a troubled teenager who was adopted when he was young and then was forced to move in with a friend after both of his adopted parents died. Jim Lewis, an attorney for the family that gave Cruz a place to live after his mother died in November, told The Washington Post that they knew Cruz was depressed, but they believed he taking steps to manage his depression.

Family member Barbara Kumbatovich told the Herald, “she believed Nikolas Cruz was on medication to deal with his emotional fragility.” She was a sister-in-law of Lynda Cruz, the suspect’s mother, and she also told the Sun-Sentinel that she believes Nikolas has been on medications for several months.

“I know she had been having some issues with them, especially the older one. He was being a problem. I know he did have some issues and he may have been taking medication. [He] did have some kind of emotional or difficulties,” Kumbatovich said. “[Lynda] kept a really close handle on both boys. They were not major issues, as far as I know, just things teenagers do like not coming home on time, maybe being disrespectful.”

Janine Kartiganer, a former neighbor, also described Cruz as “very troubled,” and said, “He wore a hoodie and always had his head down. He looked depressed.”

An anonymous relative added another description, telling the Sentinel that they believed Cruz has been diagnosed with autism.

While it is not clear how many medications Cruz was taking, the pharmaceutical drugs prescribed for depression and emotional issues are packed with a number of side effects that can lead to violent behavior.

As The Free Thought Project has reported, Las Vegas shooting suspect Stephen Paddock was prescribed the anti-anxiety drug diazepam in June, a few months before he was accused of opening fire out of his bedroom window at the Mandalay Bay Hotel, and killing more than 50 people.

The side effects from diazepam include “confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior; unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger; depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself; and hyperactivity, agitation, aggression, hostility.”

Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes killed 12 people and injured 70 when he opened fire inside of a movie theater in 2012, and he was also found to have been taking the antidepressant Sertraline, a generic version of the Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) Zoloft.

Sertraline has side effects that include “aggressive reaction; mood or behavior changes; and fast talking and excited feelings or actions that are out of control.”

Gavin Long, the veteran who went on a shooting rampage in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, was prescribed Lunesta and Ativan, both of which have an extended list of adverse side effects.

Both Lunesta and Ativan have overlapping side effects of aggression, agitation, changes in behavior, hallucinations, suicidal thoughts — and homicidal ideation.

Homicidal ideation is a common medical term for thoughts about homicide. There is a range of homicidal thoughts which spans from vague ideas of revenge to detailed and fully formulated plans without the act itself.

There have been 150 studies in 17 countries on antidepressant-induced side effects. There have been 134 drug regulatory agency warnings from 11 countries and the EU warning about the dangerous side effects of antidepressants.

Despite this deadly laundry list of potential reactions to these medications, their use has skyrocketed by 400% since 1988.

Currently, 11 percent of all Americans 12 years of age and over take antidepressant medication, which is a higher rate than all other countries in the world.

An investigation conducted by the BBC found that in the United Kingdom, antidepressants have been linked to 28 reports of murder and 32 cases of murderous thoughts referred to the UK medicines regulator in the last three decades.

As details emerge from the shooting, causing several lawmakers to call for gun control, many will ignore that fact that the suspects from most of the deadliest U.S. mass shootings in recent years also had access to dangerous pharmaceutical drugs that can lead to violent behavior and can worsen the mental illnesses they are prescribed to treat.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/family-members-say-florida-school-shooter-antidepressants-emotional-issues/  :icon_study: :icon_study:

The side effects from diazepam include “confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior; unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger; depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself; and hyperactivity, agitation, aggression, hostility.”

All that from Valium? Really. I call bullshit. Valium is the most benign drug I can imagine, other than possibly cannabis. I vote crazy instead of drug-crazed.

I think crazy people are crazy first. And....do they go off when they take the drugs, or is it when they STOP taking them? I think many times it's the latter.
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Re: Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants
« Reply #1286 on: February 18, 2018, 12:30:46 PM »

All that from Valium? Really. I call bullshit. Valium is the most benign drug I can imagine, other than possibly cannabis. I vote crazy instead of drug-crazed.

I think crazy people are crazy first. And....do they go off when they take the drugs, or is it when they STOP taking them? I think many times it's the latter.

Truth, IMO.

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Re: Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants
« Reply #1287 on: February 18, 2018, 04:54:55 PM »

All that from Valium? Really. I call bullshit. Valium is the most benign drug I can imagine, other than possibly cannabis. I vote crazy instead of drug-crazed.

I think crazy people are crazy first. And....do they go off when they take the drugs, or is it when they STOP taking them? I think many times it's the latter.

Truth, IMO.

For what that's worth.
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« Reply #1288 on: Today at 08:19:57 AM »
Internet down most of the time for past 2 days. They have to rewire everything from source. Might be down for a few more days.  Be back when operating. No WI Fi either same system. CULATER


 

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