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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2018, 05:27:17 AM »
We live in a world full of predators who commit random acts of violence and murder. I seriously doubt Mollie Tibbets is okay. My heart goes out to her father and other loved ones.

These kinds of disappearances always make me appreciate how extremely fortunate I am to have gotten my kids to this point with no real tragedies. I thank God and count my lucky stars. 
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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2018, 08:59:46 AM »
Following this thread with great sadness. If you are or have been a parent, you have some idea of the awful emptiness and grief that would ensue if you lost a child. It's an offense against the natural order of things.
Some good friends of mine lost their 17 year old daughter this week. Beautiful, brainy, athletic. from diagnosis (brain tumor) to demise in six weeks. The mind reels.

What can one say? There is no making sense of any of it. There IS no sense to it.

To GO's point above about how "that old folks see and understand things differently than younger folks," they some times give us credit for "wisdom."  Wisdom, so-called, is nothing more than accumulated lessons for which we've paid full retail, and perhaps with a premium on top of that.
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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2018, 09:46:04 AM »
Sorry to hear about your friends' loss. I can't really fully get it, because I haven't been there, but I feel for them.

Sometimes people are born to live short but beautiful lives, and they are taken away quickly when we least expect it.

Karma is the only explanation I've ever heard that makes any sense of it at all, and that's not a consolation to anyone.  I know that full well.


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I have had enough of this fucking McCain worship. Remained silent for as long as necessary out of respect for his family and the fact that none of us are fault free and death is a terrible thing for friends and family to deal with.

Fellow Libertarian Karl Denninger voices an opinion very similar to my own which I have sat on all week but find it impossible to take the worship of a false god any longer.   



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Everyone is fawning over the deceased Senator from Arizona.

I will not be joining the party.

In fact, in my considered opinion he lived too long and the world is better for his passing.

Yeah, call me an *******.  I don't care; I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are.

I don't base my view on his military service, nor on him being held in the Hanoi Hilton (or what he did while there.)  I've commented on that before during his Presidential run on these pages but it is neither the foundation of my extreme dislike of the man nor does it really modify anything, other than reinforce my basic opinion.

In my opinion John McCain was a self-serving bastard who didn't give a damn who got hurt or who he screwed as long as whatever he intended to do could advance what he wanted to obtain.

He ditched his first wife, who stayed faithfully married while he served and was imprisoned.  However, when she suffered a grievous accident through no fault of her own and was no longer pretty and thus not the sort of woman that a successful politician would want be seen with in public from a physical beauty perspective (as I judge to be his opinion, of course), and she never had been nor was at the time rich, he dumped her on his return to the United States for a women much younger, far prettier, uninjured, and a heiress who had a crap-ton of money to bankroll the start of his political aspirations.

If all that time apart had simply made for irreconcilable differences that might be able to be understood.  The raw power-seeking aspirational nature of who he hooked up with, however, never mind the timing and manner of his acts in that regard is quite another matter and belies both McCain's true intent and willingness to leave as much human wreckage behind as was necessary so long as he got what he wanted.

For that alone, in my opinion, John McCain deserves to burn in Hell.

Through his time in the House and Senate and indeed during his run for President he may have been known as a "maverick" but I think the better phrase to describe him is corrupt bastard.  May I remind you of Lincoln Savings and Loan, and the "Keating Five"?

In 1987 these men, McCain among them, got involved in a regulatory action against said bank on behalf of the Chairman and improperly intervened.  Two years later the bank collapsed, costing the federal government over $3 billion.  But far worse was the impact on bondholders and investors, many of whom were completely wiped out and left destitute.  Keating had made massive political contributions to all five.  While McCain escaped formal sanction by the Senate this was largely because he had taken office in the Senate after the salient events regarding those financial matters and thus the ethics committee claimed to lack jurisdiction.  The House Ethics committee ducked it as well, since he was now a Senator (despite having been in the House when the financial events happened.)  Fortuitous?  I suppose, but evading sanction by a bunch of limp-wristed worthless, corrupt cucks is not the same thing as not having done anything wrong.

Oh, and in the aftermath there were of course leaks intended to harm..... other politicians involved who happened to be Democrats. The GAO investigated and concluded McCain was responsible.  Of course nobody thinks that's a problem -- right?  Yet another example of "I don't give a damn who I burn or what sort of underhanded, backstabbing horsecrap I pull as long as I get what I want."  That's McCain for 'ya.

This pattern of leaks was to continue up until very recently -- from McCain.  It's funny how when you look at the Press though, or through Google, all you find in the search is leaks about McCain -- specifically, the leaked comment from the West Wing a few months ago that someone was glad he was dying.  Gee, where are all the other leaks that McCain himself committed along with improper influence and abuse of his office?  Buried down the memory hole, I see..... but the Keating incident, being infamous enough, is still findable if you know where to look.

Indeed it appears the only thing that stopped this pattern of outrageous conduct was McCain being rendered physically incapable of doing it anymore.  You know, by being on your deathbed and then (of course) dying!

Then there's the underhanded and arguably felonious urging of the IRS to use audits to destroy political opponents that came out of his Senatorial office -- including, specifically, Tea Party groups during Obama's Presidency.  His staff was caught doing it and proof is now out in the open in Judicial Watch's hands.  For that crap, in my view, he should be indicted, tried and hanged.  Of course you can't hang a dead person, so I guess this one goes to the guy in the Red Suit to adjudicate.

Of course it would be ridiculous to omit McCain's apparent involvement in the Steele Dossier.  While the book has not been closed on that as of this point it appears that taken as a whole the entire charade was a series of outrageously illegal acts intended to first subvert a federal election for President and then overthrow it's results -- and McCain's motive for being involved certainly looks like nothing more than pure, unbridled hatred.  I'm not sure I can actually count the number of likely felonies that will get tallied up when all is said and done on this and in any event that's another one for the guy in the Red Suit since you can't indict a dead man.

I should also point out McCain's trademark and decades-long condescending manner of speech.  In 2008, during the middle of the financial meltdown and an election season, he excused the banksters who ripped off the country and then voted for TARP.  When called on this the condescension came thick and fast, burying any criticism (including mine) under the old I'm smart, you're dumb, now shut the **** up and get out of here tone of voice.

We'll top this off with McCain's long and sordid history of war-mongering but for those who are dead, too numerous to count as a consequence, it's certainly not last.  His advocacy and acts in this regard during his time in government have been incessant, outrageous, in many case based on lies and have gotten a lot of people killed.  I'm the first one to defend America but advocacy for wars and military actions that have no defined goals, no stated point at which they can be called at an end and at best a compromised justification (e.g. the Second Iraq incursion) are another matter.  We'll let the red suit guy adjudicate that one as well.

Rest in pieces, jackass -- let's see how the Ethics Committee of One passes judgement and unlike House and Senate committees he doesn't seem very amenable to mealy-mouthed excuses:


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In fact, in my considered opinion he lived too long and the world is better for his passing.

Yeah, call me an *******.  I don't care; I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are.

Something Karl and I can agree on!  :icon_sunny:  I liked the Burn in Hell part.

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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2018, 08:43:30 AM »
Nice set of cajones' there Oxie....

McStain got his firing squad, rest assured.
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I have had enough of this fucking McCain worship. Remained silent for as long as necessary out of respect for his family and the fact that none of us are fault free and death is a terrible thing for friends and family to deal with.

Fellow Libertarian Karl Denninger voices an opinion very similar to my own which I have sat on all week but find it impossible to take the worship of a false god any longer.   

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A truly admirable rant, including ideas and phrases that have come out of my own wife's mouth, especially the "trade-in-and-trade-up for-a-newer-model" thing.
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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2018, 09:51:33 AM »
A view close to my own as well.

I remember Charles Keating very well. I had forgotten McCain was involved. I might not have paid that much attention to him at the time. The Village Voice skewered Keating, whose cronyism was unparalleled. They crashed the real estate market nationwide when it all unraveled.

It did enable me to buy my first house for a considerable discount. But I had to find owner financing because there was no debt to be offered to the likes of me.....a new dentist with a huge 20K student student loan already. Not a good risk. LOL.

It's bizarre how it changes overnight when the credit markets turn. It's like night and day. Worth remembering.
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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2018, 09:59:27 AM »
Who Charles Keating pretended to be.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/O4ne13Zft9Q&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/O4ne13Zft9Q&fs=1</a>

Unfortunately, George Bailey's people took it up the ass one more time, as the Savings and Loan concept got hollowed out and turned into a conduit scheme....and then got cancelled for good.
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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2018, 04:47:44 AM »
Ashvin is back for a day or two and we have a forum again.

What a marvelous person he is.

Eddie and K-Dog post their most exemplary postings, a most impressive insight into these two diners and their ability to at least try to be fair and objective. Postings full of emotion, honesty and integrity.

Free Speech is so wonderful, it's just grand. It was the principle our beloved Diner was founded on.  :'(

Ashvin for President, no wonder the Diner voted him preferred Leader.  :emthup: :emthup:

Just some private mutterings I'm posting in the Great Book of the Diner.         

                                   

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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2018, 04:57:07 AM »

brown-nose
/ˈbrounˌnōz/
informal
verb
gerund or present participle: brown-nosing

    curry favor with (someone) by acting in an obsequious way.
    "academics were brown-nosing the senior faculty"


Brown-nosing has now been added to the Violation list in the CoC.

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Re: Golden Oxen's Menagerie of Mad Meandering Mutterings
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2018, 11:52:16 AM »

brown-nose
/ˈbrounˌnōz/
informal
verb
gerund or present participle: brown-nosing

    curry favor with (someone) by acting in an obsequious way.
    "academics were brown-nosing the senior faculty"


Brown-nosing has now been added to the Violation list in the CoC.

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Whose the Minister of Propaganda around this haunt.

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I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why youíre here. Youíre here because you know something. What you know you canít explain, but you feel it. Youíve felt it your entire life, that thereís something wrong with the world.
You donít know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

 

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