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African Drought Issues
« on: May 22, 2016, 03:35:17 AM »
Because it is Africa, we don't see a lot of stories in the MSM about the drought problems there.  Mostly Black People of course.

However, I have been talking with some South African Diners, and things are really , REALLY bad in Johannesburg.

So I am standing up a thread specifically for Drought issues in Africa.  You have to research them out, they don't generally appear on Google Newz.

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/05/zimbabwe-drought-million-face-food-shortage-160516142445157.html

Zimbabwe drought: Five million face food shortage
Half of the country's rural population will need assistance by next year with rain not expected for several months.

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Nearly five million people in Zimbabwe - half of the country's rural population - will need assistance by next year as a result of the ongoing drought in southern Africa, the United Nations has said.

Zimbabwe is one of the worst affected countries by the driest year in decades facing southern Africa - including Malawi, Zambia and South Africa - which has placed more than 30 million people at risk.

Rainfall is not expected in the country in the near future and President Robert Mugabe has declared a "state of disaster".
Zimbabwean tobacco farmers suffer from drought

Residents have reported not having proper food for days.

"A lot of people are hungry," Ambuya Grace, who lives in one of the affected villages, told Al Jazeera.

Another local, Virgilance Tsabora, said she, too, needed assistance.

"No one has come to help us. Some people got food, but many people did not," said Tsabora.

The government says it is trying to buy grain from neighbouring countries.

The drought has been made worse by the strong El Nino weather patterns, a temporary climate change of the Pacific in the region around the equator.

In February, Zimbabwe's Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa appealed to local business and charities for more than $1.5bn in aid to save more than a quarter of the population from starvation.

At a news conference in the capital Harare, Mnangagwa said the government "requires a total of [$1.57bn] with effect from February to December 2016", adding that millions were in need of food and water.

The UN's World Food Programme said in January that about 14 million people in Southern Africa are facing hunger due to poor harvests in 2015, caused by the latest El Nino.
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Capetown Dries Up
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 12:56:43 AM »
http://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/cape-town-water-running-out?utm_source=time.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-brief&utm_content=2018011117pm&xid=newsletter-brief

This Tourism Hotspot Could be the World's First City to Run Out of Water (Video)


Major changes could be coming to this tourism hotspot as early as this April if current consumption levels continue.
Talia Avakian January 11, 2018

For the first time, a major city may run out of water this year.

South Africa’s city of Cape Town has been grappling with water shortages that are the result of what the Weather Channel calls the worst drought to hit the country in 100 years. The situation may result in Cape Town officials shutting off all of the city's water taps this April.

Irregularly dry winters have created exceedingly low dam levels within the country, leading city representatives to set a “Day Zero” date, which is when they believe the country will see dam levels drop below 13.5 percent and lead to the mandatory shutting off of all taps.

Currently, the date is set for April 22. That's a week earlier than the previous date set for April 29, with the city’s current dam levels only providing 19.7 percent of water that is actually useable.

Despite taking measures that include reducing water pressure and banning the ability to water outdoors or wash your car, city representatives are still finding that residents are using some 78 more million liters than the set goal.
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Officials are continuing to urge individuals to take actions to decrease their overall water consumption in an effort to try and avoid “Day Zero,” which would lead to residents being forced to line up at some 200 checkpoints across the county to receive daily water rations under the supervision of police and military officials.

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Travelers heading to the area will also find some changes regarding water consumption at their hotels. For example, properties like Hotel Verse are giving guests discounts if they refrain from using ice in their drinks, while others like the Taj Cape Town are closing their steam rooms and hot tubs in an effort to help with the situation, according to the New York Times.

“The city of Cape Town could conceivably become the first major city to run out of water, and that could happen in the next four months,” Dr. Anthony Turton, who teaches at the Centre for Environmental Management at the University of the Free State, told the Times regarding the current crisis.

City officials are still welcoming travelers to visit Cape Town, beloved for its magnificent coastline and natural attractions, as they work to prevent one of its vital natural resources from disappearing.

Water shortages may become a reality in other locations as well, with the World Wildlife Fund estimating that two-thirds of the planet's population could be facing water scarcity by 2025.
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🚰 Cape Town, on verge of running out of water, braces for "chaos"
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 12:20:03 PM »
Amerikans use 100 gallons of water/day? ???  Unless they are averaging in the water used by Ag over the whole population, I don't see how that is possible.

At any rate, it will be interesting to see if the rains arrive JIT or how long it takes Cape Town to depopulate.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cape-town-drought-water-shortage-south-africa/

 CBS News January 19, 2018, 7:45 AM
Cape Town, on verge of running out of water, braces for "chaos"


CAPE TOWN, South Africa -- Surrounded by beautiful stretches of ocean, it's hard to believe Cape Town could become the first major city in the world to run out of water. Ominously named "day zero," April 21 – 92 days from today – is when the taps will be turned off.

At the Voëlvlei Dam, water levels are critically low, sitting at less than 20 percent, reports CBS News' Debora Patta. It's one of Cape Town's main sources of water – a source that it is on the brink of running completely dry within a matter of weeks.

Three years of successive drought have devastated the city's water supplies. The local government has brought in severe restrictions forcing people to look for alternative supplies like a natural spring tapped for public use.

"It has changed our lives dramatically. But it is also a lesson for us not to waste water," Mogamat Allie said.
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There have already been scuffles at the natural spring. Security guards now monitor the site to prevent violence from breaking out.

"And imagine no water, how will it be. Chaos. It's going to be terrible. And we're not looking forward to that time," Erma Da Costa said.

Cape Town's four million residents are now only allowed 23 gallons of water per person per day.  Next month that goes down to 13 gallons. Compare that to the average American who uses around 100 gallons daily.

Thirteen gallons doesn't allow for much – a 90-second shower, a quick toilet flush, basic dishwashing, weekly laundry, and a large bottle of drinking water.

Outside the city center, the effects of the water crisis are more obvious. Farmer Andries van der Paul has only been able to plant a quarter of his corn crop this year. If the taps are switched off, he is facing financial ruin.

"It's a desperate situation. It's a difficult, difficult situation for us," van der Paul said.

Climate scientist Peter Johnston said even if there is a good rainfall this year, the crisis will not be over. Cape Town is getting hotter.

"That increase in temperature is going to increase evaporation. Increased evaporation is going to mean that there is less water that's available for our use," Johnston said.

That is bad news for a city that is also a global tourist attraction – welcoming two million visitors a year.

City officials believe that if Capetonians drastically cut back water usage, they could avoid the taps running dry until the rainy season begins in May. Then of course the hope is that the rains will pour down so that dams will be full again.
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Re: 🚰 Cape Town, on verge of running out of water, braces for "chaos"
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 02:45:45 AM »
Amerikans use 100 gallons of water/day? ???  Unless they are averaging in the water used by Ag over the whole population, I don't see how that is possible.

At any rate, it will be interesting to see if the rains arrive JIT or how long it takes Cape Town to depopulate.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cape-town-drought-water-shortage-south-africa/

Now THIS article is the shit. Also supports Irv Mills' thesis of slow, step down contractions on. the way to Doom.

Low-Flow toilets use in the neighborhood of 1 1/4 gallons, usually 3.5 gallons for an older model. If you have two people in a household who flush a dozen times a day, there's 30 gallons right there with a low flow. And then add kids. And mama's Hollywood showers. Toss in cooking, cleaning and coffee, and 100 gal/day doesn't seem THAT unreasonable, at least per household.
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Re: 🚰 Cape Town, on verge of running out of water, braces for "chaos"
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 02:53:40 AM »
Amerikans use 100 gallons of water/day? ???  Unless they are averaging in the water used by Ag over the whole population, I don't see how that is possible.

At any rate, it will be interesting to see if the rains arrive JIT or how long it takes Cape Town to depopulate.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cape-town-drought-water-shortage-south-africa/

Now THIS article is the shit. Also supports Irv Mills' thesis of slow, step down contractions on. the way to Doom.

Low-Flow toilets use in the neighborhood of 1 1/4 gallons, usually 3.5 gallons for an older model. If you have two people in a household who flush a dozen times a day, there's 30 gallons right there with a low flow. And then add kids. And mama's Hollywood showers. Toss in cooking, cleaning and coffee, and 100 gal/day doesn't seem THAT unreasonable, at least per household.

Who flushes a dozen times a day?  :o  That would be some serious diareah problem!

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Re: 🚰 Cape Town, on verge of running out of water, braces for "chaos"
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 04:00:32 AM »
Amerikans use 100 gallons of water/day? ???  Unless they are averaging in the water used by Ag over the whole population, I don't see how that is possible.

At any rate, it will be interesting to see if the rains arrive JIT or how long it takes Cape Town to depopulate.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cape-town-drought-water-shortage-south-africa/

Now THIS article is the shit. Also supports Irv Mills' thesis of slow, step down contractions on. the way to Doom.

Low-Flow toilets use in the neighborhood of 1 1/4 gallons, usually 3.5 gallons for an older model. If you have two people in a household who flush a dozen times a day, there's 30 gallons right there with a low flow. And then add kids. And mama's Hollywood showers. Toss in cooking, cleaning and coffee, and 100 gal/day doesn't seem THAT unreasonable, at least per household.

Who flushes a dozen times a day?  :o  That would be some serious diareah problem!

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People with digestive issues. People with enlarged prostates.

Old fuckers.

And women. You have obviously forgotten what it's like to live with a woman.
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Re: 🚰 Cape Town, on verge of running out of water, braces for "chaos"
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 07:43:56 AM »
You have obviously forgotten what it's like to live with a woman.

Yes, I have.  But thanks for reminding me WHY I don't live with a woman.  ::)

These days, I have to piss a dozen times a day (Urologist appt Fri finally), but if I just piss I don't flush except at the end of the day.  I flush also if I take a shit.  Not even women shit a dozen times a day.

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How will Day Zero work? Don't ask the City of Cape Town 🚰
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2018, 02:55:28 AM »
I smell a clusterfuck in the making. 👃  They're going to distribute water to a city of 1M people with just 200 sites?  That's 5000 people per site.

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How will Day Zero work? Don't ask the City of Cape Town
20 January 2018 - 09:31 By Dave Chambers


An example of a water distribution point where Cape Town residents will have to queue for a 25-litre daily allowance.
Image: City of Cape Town

Day Zero is coming in Cape Town‚ mayor Patricia de Lille admitted this week‚ but her city council has no detailed plans for how it will work.

After spending the week repeatedly asking for more time to answer TimesLive questions‚ the council finally replied on Friday evening by saying nothing had been finalised.

On Thursday‚ after months of insisting “a well-run city does not run out of water”‚ De Lille said Day Zero — when most taps run dry — was now likely. The latest projected date is April 20‚ but many experts believe it will arrive much earlier.

De Lille said wasteful residents were to blame. “It is quite unbelievable that a majority of people do not seem to care and are sending all of us headlong towards Day Zero‚” she told a news conference.

On Monday‚ the Sunday Times asked Richard Bosman‚ the city council’s safety and security director‚ about arrangements for water collection points — the 200 sites across the city where residents will have to queue for a 25-litre daily allowance.
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These were his answers:

Q: Please supply the locations of water collection points.

A: Site assessments are being finalised. More detailed information will be released to the public once the list has been finalised.

Q: For each point‚ please indicate their operating hours and hourly capacity in terms of the number of people who will be able to fill 25-litre containers.

A: Site assessments are determining how many people each site can provide water to and how quickly and efficiently this water can be distributed‚ via how many standpipes. Where possible‚ collection sites will operate 24 hours a day.

Q: Will the city supply citizens with containers? If so‚ when and how? If not‚ why not?

A: Residents will have to use their own containers.

Q: Several questions about how the collection points will function.

A: The city will take reasonable measures to ensure that water rationing happens fairly and appropriately. Households and individuals will adapt to this crisis differently and the city is aware of the need for flexibility at sites. In terms of preventing abuse‚ we will all need to work together to ensure efficient functioning of the sites and fair access to water for all residents.

During recent planning meetings it has been proposed it would be most workable to allow residents to collect water on behalf of other family members‚ however this has not been finalised.

Detailed plans for how sites will operate are being finalised. More information will be released to the public during the next few weeks‚ but we can assure residents that there will be an official presence at collection points to prevent abuse of the system and to limit undue inconvenience.

Any system we put in place will to a certain degree have to rely on residents to act in a conscientious and conservative manner when collecting water for it to work as efficiently as possible.

Level-six water restrictions came into effect on January 1 2018. It is possible that the current restriction of 87 litres per person per day will be replaced with a 50-litre limit. Here’s how to use less than 50 litres of water a day and still have that cup of coffee Capetonians love.

Q: What arrangements will be made for people who are elderly/frail/disabled or for some other reason not capable of fetching and carrying water?

A: Priority will be given to the elderly and physically disabled at collection points. Special provision is being made at the points of distribution for separate queues to deal with physically challenged persons‚ so that they do not have to stand in long queues.

We are also engaging with national government‚ provincial government‚ businesses‚ communities and NGOs to support us to care for our most vulnerable residents such as the elderly and those with disabilities. In this regard‚ provision is also being made to provide vulnerable groups such as persons in old age homes with bottled water.

Q: Similarly‚ parents will presumably have to collect the allocation for their small children?

A: The city will take reasonable measures to ensure that water rationing happens fairly and appropriately. Households and individuals will adapt to this crisis differently and the city is aware of the need for flexibility at sites. In terms of preventing abuse‚ we will all need to work together to ensure efficient functioning of the sites and fair access to water for all residents.

Q: Will people be allowed to send proxies to collect their allocation?

A: The city will take reasonable measures to ensure that water rationing happens fairly and appropriately. Households and individuals will adapt to this crisis differently and the city is aware of the need for flexibility at sites.

In terms of preventing abuse‚ we will all need to work together to ensure efficient functioning of the sites and fair access to water for all residents‚ and we are liaising with the South African Police Service and the South African National Defence Force in terms of what role they can play in oversight.
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Q: Time is already short. When do you plan to start the rollout of collection points as well as the verification system that will be required for each individual entitled to collect water and for the amount they are permitted?

More information will be released in time for residents and businesses to make arrangements to accommodate water collection. Site assessments are at an advanced stage‚ with more info to be released over the coming weeks.

Q: Please indicate what security arrangements are being made for each point. Earlier‚ troops were mentioned.

A: In terms of maintaining public order‚ the SAPS and the SANDF are being engaged and will collaborate with the city as per the mandate of each service. Their definitive roles will depend on a joint decision between city‚ provincial and national governments. The city and the Western Cape government have formally requested a national joint instruction (or instruction from the national government to mobilise the SAPS and the SANDF in the Western Cape for joint preparedness and planning activities).

Q: Has consideration been given to the declaration of a state of emergency while the collection points remain in operation?

A: No answer.
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🚱 Boots on the Ground reporting on Zero Day from r/capetown
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2018, 02:06:43 PM »
Here is some interesting analysis of the situation from a Capetown resident on r/capetown.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/capetown/comments/7rorec/zero_day_predictions/

Zero Day Predictions? (self.capetown)

submitted 1 day ago by ManBearHybrid

I don't want to be alarmist, but I think this problem is bigger than people are anticipating. I don't think it will be just a few months - if the rains fail again (like they have for 3 years running now), it could be much longer than that. Here are my concerns:

Drinking water won't be a huge problem. We can queue if necessary. I think the sewage systems will be the biggest issues. I hope this doesn't happen, but I suspect that without a decent flow rate there will be a lot of blockages and flooded toilets/drains. Having water to flush is only half the problem - you still need an operational sewage system behind it. Public toilets will be a huge problem. My work colleague told me about a time when the water went out for a week in her Eastern Cape home town. She said that, by the end, most shopping centers were like war zones - and that was only a week. I think a lot of people will be shitting into bushes or into plastic bags and throwing it in the garbage. I really worry about poor sanitation leading to major outbreaks of disease, especially in poorer areas where population density is higher. What will happen when 4 million people can't find a flushing toilet?

Also, many businesses can't operate if they can't provide ablution facilities for their staff and customers, and they also can't run if their staff are all off spending their days queuing for water or looking after their kids (because schools will close). There are only 200 water points for 4 million people. How long will the queues take? I worry that there will be a serious interruption of services in the city. I suspect that even just finding an open Checkers to buy groceries will become an issue that needs planning for. I suspect this will lead to a lot of conflict and aggression as people fight over resources (not just water but food, petrol, etc). This is already happening at the Newlands springs. I was there the other day and saw a bunch of people fighting over water.

On a nation-wide scale, I think there will be a mass exodus from the city, where everyone who can leave will do so. Other cities (like JHB) will be stressed with a sudden influx of people trying to escape. That will affect their rental availability. Just finding a flat to rent in JHB will be hard when there are hundreds of thousands more people than usual who are doing the same. Also, let's not forget the long(er) term - that the rest of the country is either experiencing water shortages, or has experienced them in the last year. What happens if the same thing happens in Durban later this year?

Obviously this is just speculation, but I am very, very worried. This is a major crisis that is unprecedented in the world. Maybe I'm just watching too much The Walking Dead.

Thoughts?

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[–]Zastro_the_frog 5 points 1 day ago

Zero day will come. Only a 3rd of residential houses are trying. There are hotels, that still have plugs in baths and no signage up. You are correct in what you say, drinking water is easy to solve. Health is the biggest concern and it will get messy, shit won't flow and that is bad.

Not to be all doom and gloom, but the desalination plants are only 50 percent complete, the parts haven't arrived yet let alone close to being installed. Then it takes some smart guys to test and calibrate them over and over again. These plants will only run in 2019 earliest.

The aquifers need to be tested and modeled to ensue sustainability. There is probably going to be an army of lawyers making sure the government doesn't get sued. Which always slows things down.

Cape Town, soon to be named district 12

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[–]ManBearHybrid 3 points 1 day ago

So in a funny twist of fate, I am staying in the Cullinan hotel tonight (Southern Sun), even though I live just down the road. There are some signs up in the lobby, and hanging in the corner of the bathroom. There are no plugs in the bath, but the lady at Reception said nothing to me about the situation. Also, their swimming pool is full, glistening and blue. I haven't investigated if it's potable water yet, but I struggle to believe it's recycled or grey water if people are swimming in it.

I think a lot of people are going to get a huge wakeup call very soon. I hope it's not too late.

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[–]SmLnine 4 points 1 day ago*

TLDR: Doesn't look good.

Let's do some quick mafs:

    Cape Town has 4 mil people split into 1.26 mil households source
    Each person is allowed 25 liters per day. That's 100 mil liters per day in total.
    There will be 200 water collection points operating 24/7.

If you assume that:

    Collection points will always work. There will be no disruptions due to water trucks breaking down, pumps breaking, etc.
    People will magically (or be forced to) spread out so that the load on each collection point is the same.
    People will magically (or be forced to) spread into slots throughout the entire day (i.e. collection points will be working at full capacity throughout the night)
    No one takes more than they're allowed.
    All collection points will have 60 taps. All I've been able to find regarding the number of taps is this photo. The photo shows 5 rows of 6 pumps each, each pump having 2 taps.
    The flow rate at the collection points will be comparable to taps on the municipal supply (10 liter/minute to be safe)

Then each collection point will have to handle 14 people/minute.

You should be able to fill up in 2.5 minutes, so each collection point will be able to handle 24 people/minute. Not a great margin given the assumptions above. Things will break. People don't want to/can't get up at 2 AM to collect water. The flow rate might be much lower that I've guessed. The maximum capacity should be at least 5x or 10x the minimum demand of 14 people/minute.

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[–]ManBearHybrid 5 points 1 day ago

That is a very scary picture you paint. I wonder what kinds of security will be present at the collection points to maintain order. I imagine the army will be brought in. And how will the water be transported there? Will they tap into parts of the reticulation network that still have pressure (i.e. not residential)? Delivering water in trucks seems very inefficient, and they could even become the targets for hijacking. I imagine we'd see lots of news stories about water-in-transit heists.

My GF is a writer and she enjoys stories about post-apocalyptic futures. She said today that she didnt imagine that she may have to actually live in that future. Heavy days.

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[–]SmLnine 3 points 1 day ago*

    I imagine the army will be brought in.

Yup, they'll be relying on SAPS and SANDF according to https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2018-01-20-how-will-day-zero-work-dont-ask-the-city-of-cape-town/

    And how will the water be transported there

I haven't been able to find out but I can't imagine anything other than trucks, since there won't be any residual drinking water left. And trucks by the dozens. 100 mil liters/day means 2273 truck loads per day (assuming big 44 kl tankers). One truck might be able to make several trips per day (depends where they're getting the water). Still, I'd like to know where the city is going to find 500 or more trucks with attached tankers.

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[–]ManBearHybrid 2 points 13 hours ago

So I just spoke to my GF about this. She said that the city announced they will keep the taps on in the townships since they already use communal water taps, and their usage only accounts for 5% of total residential demand. This will take a HUGE load off of the 200 water stations, and I think it's great that the most vulnerable in society will be less affected.

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[–]SmLnine 2 points 12 hours ago

Interesting. Logically, I think it makes sense for the same reasons you gave. But politically it's going to be very bad. The middle class are going to lose it if that happens.

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[–]ManBearHybrid 2 points 5 hours ago

Unfortunately, you're right. I think that politics are making this whole thing so much worse. Very frustrating.

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[–]CultOfCuck 3 points 8 hours ago

"How to Build a Composting Toilet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL10PmbQ1EY'

Desperate times, desperate measures.

Something a little more "fancy":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYR6GPmDzVM&t=18s

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[–]Splashycat 2 points 1 day ago

I will be traveling to Cape Town in mid February. I’ve been following the water crisis and I’m so sorry for your situation. As a traveler, what can I do to minimize impact? What restrictions are hotels facing that may impact our travel? I’ve never been in an area in a water crisis to know what to expect and how to approach it.

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[–]ManBearHybrid 5 points 14 hours ago*

Quite bluntly, my gut instinct is to say "dont come", but I get that this may also not be possible in your specific circumstances. This is probably not a good thing to say for tourism in our city, but I think we need water more than money at this point.

If you do come, please do EVERYTHING you can to save water. The hotels are not doing enough to inform people of the situation. I'm in a hotel right now and there are only a few small signs up, but other than that nobody is talking about it because they're worried about losing money.

To give you an idea of what my life is like:

    I shower once every 3 days, and even then I rince, then I turn the water off while I soap up, then turn it on again to rince again afterwards. If you're worried about hygene, nobody seems to have noticed yet, so I clearly dont smell bad. And I dont feel dirty.

    I wear clothes twice as often as I used to before doing laundry. Also, we never do half-loads of laundry.

    We have a rainwater collectiom system that I made outside and use it for toilet flushing. The tank ran dry recently (no rain), so now we follow the rule "if it's yellow let it mellow. If it's brown flush it down." Practically, we (my housemates and I) each try to flush the toilet once a day or less.

    when washing dishes, use water sparingly, etc.

Using the above, I calculate that my consumption is about 40L/day or less. I think that, if everyone in the city did this, we could avoid zero day. But currently only one third of residents are actually meeting the 87 L/day limit. Personally, given that we're on the edge of a city-wide disaster that is unprecedented in the world, I find it incredible that so many people are still showering every day.

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[–]Missfreeland 1 point 8 hours ago

I am visiting a friend around the same time from America. He lives in Durban, would it be smarter to stick around Durban a little longer and make my trip to SA short? My girlfriend and I usually only shower once every 3 or 4 days so we could plan to not even shower when we are there. I also always let yellow mellow as well. I bet we can plan our solids together as well. Should I bring water bottles to drink from on my trip as well?

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[–]ManBearHybrid 1 point 5 hours ago

Durban is also in the middle of a drought, but I'm not sure how their situation is. I havent heard any talk about water running out there, but if you do visit them it will be a good idea to save water as much as possible anyway. It sounds like you already do a good job of that though.

To be honest, only a small proportion of the water you use is for drinking. Most of it goes to other things like toilets, showers, laundry, dishwashing, etc. Bringing a bottle to drink from will help, but being aware and adjusting your behaviour and usage will go a much longer way. Also, please chat to the rest of your group and let them know how serious it is. Maybe have a meeting to talk about water strategies. I find that some people need a lot of convincing that they dont need to shower every day.

Thanks for showing concern! It really is helpful.

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[–]Missfreeland 1 point 5 hours ago

It’s just my girl and I going meeting up with my one friend who lives in Durban. We will be sure to try and not create a negative impact. It sounds like a terrible situation.

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[–]Splashycat 1 point 8 hours ago

Thank you for your insight. We cannot cancel our trip, but we can limit the time we spend inside of the city itself to only needing 1 shower. Are surrounding areas effected or just the city proper?

Do you have Dryel in your country? It’s a bag we use for dry cleaning here where you spot clean items and put them in the bag in the dryer. It works amazingly well. I’m not sure if it would help on a large scale, but it could be an option to conserve water. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B06Y2WXZXB/ref=mw_dp_cr

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[–]ManBearHybrid 3 points 5 hours ago

There has been little rain in surrounding areas for quite some time now (thanks, climate change). So much of the southern part of the country is in drought. Some towns are affected worse than others though. For example, I am told that Hermanus, a small town just over an hour's drive away, has only light restrictions (e.g. only watering your garden at certain times in the evening).

I have not heard about Dryel but it does sound useful. I dont know if its available here (doubtful), so if you are able, it's probably a good idea to bring your own. It will be expensive with shipping, but I'll look into ordering some for myself and others too!

Also, thanks for showing concern. Everyone here is very worried as the realization of what could happen dawns (although, for some, their efforts come frustratingly late in the game). Please talk to the rest of your party too, to make sure that they're all aware of the scope of the problem.

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[–]Splashycat 1 point an hour ago

I emailed Dryel after reading this. It appears it’s only available in the USA and Canada, but it can’t hurt to spend 5 minutes and reach out to them to let them know about the Cape Town issues and that their product could be very useful in this situation. They are actively looking for brand ambassadors to share their product on their website. http://dryel.com

It would be great promotion/ charity on their end to get involved. I’m guessing there would also be a strong market for their product there as well.

So it can’t hurt to email them. Who knows? Maybe they’ll get involved. Can’t hurt to try!

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[–]Little_African_Child 2 points 10 hours ago

Imagine what the Cape Flats will look like after even one week of no water in the taps and toilets.
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Re: 🚱 Boots on the Ground reporting on Zero Day from r/capetown
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2018, 03:52:14 PM »
Here is some interesting analysis of the situation from a Capetown resident on r/capetown.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/capetown/comments/7rorec/zero_day_predictions/

Zero Day Predictions? (self.capetown)

submitted 1 day ago by ManBearHybrid

Drinking water won't be a huge problem. We can queue if necessary. I think the sewage systems will be the biggest issues. I hope this doesn't happen, but I suspect that without a decent flow rate there will be a lot of blockages and flooded toilets/drains. Having water to flush is only half the problem - you still need an operational sewage system behind it. Public toilets will be a huge problem. My work colleague told me about a time when the water went out for a week in her Eastern Cape home town. She said that, by the end, most shopping centers were like war zones - and that was only a week. I think a lot of people will be shitting into bushes or into plastic bags and throwing it in the garbage. I really worry about poor sanitation leading to major outbreaks of disease, especially in poorer areas where population density is higher. What will happen when 4 million people can't find a flushing toilet?

A stark reminder that one of the greatest single contributions to disease prevention, longevity and quality of life has been public sanitation. Maybe collapse starts when the sewers quit: hello, third world.
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