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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2012, 02:41:18 AM »
Quote WHD, " GO,

Reading the referral article, I'm inclined to think this is the logical extension of the war on terror, in the aftermath of the Cold War, in an age of bio-weapons. Whether or not there is anything nefarious about it is hard to say. The article doesn't mention if it is a Homeland Security mandate, or more likely strongly suggestive guidelines; the article doesn't say. it did have a picture of a prison, and tan buses, complete with concertina wire, which I thought a low-grade terrorising in it's own right, almost lurid. Though the laundry list of districts that have taken to such terrorizing of their young charges, was disconcerting. The militarization or America is accelerating.

Though personally, I wonder more about that damned reactor #4, Fukushima. That would be a harsh comeuppance, nuclear rain falling down on America, three generations after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No off-site safe houses for that, for school children to be evacuated to. And the reactors thirty-five miles on either side of me, and Xcel Energy recently demanding a 50 year extension to house waste storage rods on site, on the Mississippi."

Hear you loud and clear WHD. Have come to view this busing as just another reminder of "Who is in Charge", and "Don't screw with us" display of power and control.

Am well aware of your feelings about Fukishima. Live about thirty miles from the Seabrook nuclear plant, it was placed right along my favorite beach area, and less than forty miles from Boston, in the wisdom of its SAFETY planners.

Had to drive right by it for a great number of years and it gave me the willies. Was a feeling of something alien and evil that is hard to describe, to see it in the early beauty of morning just sitting there so out of place and foreboding is something that managed to always ruin my what a beautiful morning feeling.

No one cares, some live right next to it and consider it a blessing. Aren't we lucky, we get these good jobs, it could have been placed elsewhere. The kind that worry about second hand tobacco smoke as the greatest threat to their health, as they go to work with their radiation detection gear on. We are truly screwed.

     
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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2012, 06:31:47 PM »
Sooner or later one of these old plants is going to blow.  If we are "lucky" it will be just one.  A series of great earthquakes (8.0+ R) in the New Madrid Seismic Zone, similiar to the 1812 series, could take out several plants in short order.  Many others have significant but lesser hazards.

Most of these plants are beyond their design life.  We were told when the first generation of plants were built that they would be decomissioned and replaced with newer designs in thirty years.  More than thirty years has passed, and better designs do exist now.  But replacing plants costs money that could cut profits and executive bonuses.
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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and World's Oldest Undeciphered writing
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2012, 05:01:01 PM »
Fascinating stuff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19964786

Breakthrough in world's oldest undeciphered writing

By Sean Coughlan
BBC News education correspondent



The world's oldest undeciphered writing system, which has so far defied attempts to uncover its 5,000-year-old secrets, could be about to be decoded by Oxford University academics.

This international research project is already casting light on a lost bronze age middle eastern society where enslaved workers lived on rations close to the starvation level.

"I think we are finally on the point of making a breakthrough," says Jacob Dahl, fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford and director of the Ancient World Research Cluster.

Dr Dahl's secret weapon is being able to see this writing more clearly than ever before.

In a room high up in the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford, above the Egyptian mummies and fragments of early civilisations, a big black dome is clicking away and flashing out light.

This device, part sci-fi, part-DIY, is providing the most detailed and high quality images ever taken of these elusive symbols cut into clay tablets. This is Indiana Jones with software.

It's being used to help decode a writing system called proto-Elamite, used between around 3200BC and 2900BC in a region now in the south west of modern Iran.

And the Oxford team think that they could be on the brink of understanding this last great remaining cache of undeciphered texts from the ancient world.

Tablet computer
Dr Dahl, from the Oriental Studies Faculty, shipped his image-making device on the Eurostar to the Louvre Museum in Paris, which holds the most important collection of this writing.


Jacob Dahl wants the public and other academics to help with an online decipherment of the texts
The clay tablets were put inside this machine, the Reflectance Transformation Imaging System, which uses a combination of 76 separate photographic lights and computer processing to capture every groove and notch on the surface of the clay tablets.

It allows a virtual image to be turned around, as though being held up to the light at every possible angle.

These images will be publicly available online, with the aim of using a kind of academic crowdsourcing.

He says it's misleading to think that codebreaking is about some lonely genius suddenly understanding the meaning of a word. What works more often is patient teamwork and the sharing of theories. Putting the images online should accelerate this process.

But this is painstaking work. So far Dr Dahl has deciphered 1,200 separate signs, but he says that after more than 10 years study much remains unknown, even such basic words as "cow" or "cattle".

He admits to being "bitten" by this challenge. "It's an unknown, uncharted territory of human history," he says.

Extinct language
But why has this writing proved so difficult to interpret?

Dr Dahl suspects he might have part of the answer. He's discovered that the original texts seem to contain many mistakes - and this makes it extremely tricky for anyone trying to find consistent patterns.


This first case of educational underinvestment proved fatal for the writing system, which was corrupted and then completely disappeared after only a couple of hundred years. "It's an early example of a technology being lost," he says.

"The lack of a scholarly tradition meant that a lot of mistakes were made and the writing system may eventually have become useless."

Making it even harder to decode is the fact that it's unlike any other ancient writing style. There are no bi-lingual texts and few helpful overlaps to provide a key to these otherwise arbitrary looking dashes and circles and symbols.

This is a writing system - and not a spoken language - so there's no way of knowing how words sounded, which might have provided some phonetic clues.

Dr Dahl says that one of the really important historical significances of this proto-Elamite writing is that it was the first ever recorded case of one society adopting writing from another neighbouring group.

But infuriatingly for the codebreakers, when these proto-Elamites borrowed the concept of writing from the Mesopotamians, they made up an entirely different set of symbols.

Why they should make the intellectual leap to embrace writing and then at the same time re-invent it in a different local form remains a puzzle.

But it provides a fascinating snapshot of how ideas can both spread and change.

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Japan: Sasago Tunnel Collapses
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2012, 10:32:20 PM »
Gee, in a country getting virtually non-stop shaking, a Tunnel might eventually weaken and collapse.  Who Coodanode?

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A major road tunnel has collapsed in Japan, trapping a number of vehicles and leaving seven people missing, local media reports say.
Survivors described how large sections of concrete fell on top of cars in the Sasago tunnel.
Rescuers managed to reach the scene, but were unsure how many cars were buried there.
The incident happened at about 08:00 local time (23:00 GMT Saturday), about 80km (50 miles) west of Tokyo.
The tunnel - one of Japan's longest - links the capital to the city of Nagoya.
Public broadcaster NHK quoted its reporter as saying that black smoke was coming out of the tunnel and there appeared to be a fire inside.
'Frightened'
 

Pictures from closed circuit TV cameras inside the tunnel showed a section of the tunnel of up to 100m (328ft) that had caved in on the Tokyo-bound lanes on the Chuo Expressway in Yamanashi prefecture.
"We don't know exactly how many vehicles are on fire," a traffic police official told the AFP news agency.
The official added that a woman was taken to hospital after she had made her way out of the tunnel.
Smoke was seen billowing from the Sasago tunnel
The woman said she was with five other people in a van, but added: "I have no idea about what happened to the five others. I don't know how many vehicles were ahead and behind ours."
A reporter for NHK described driving through the tunnel as it began to collapse, seeing other cars trapped and on fire. His car was badly damaged, he said.
Another survivor told the broadcaster that he saw "a concrete part of the ceiling fall off all of a sudden when I was driving inside. I saw a fire coming from a crushed car".
He added that he was "frightened" and walked for an hour to get out of the tunnel.
The Sasago tunnel is an estimated 4.3km-long (2.7 miles). The twin-bore tunnel is on one of the major highways out of Tokyo, the BBC's Rupert Wingfield Hayes in Japan reports.
The road has had to be closed because of the seriousness of the accident, our correspondent adds.
Firefighters are still trying to extinguish the blaze.
It is not clear what may have caused the roof to collapse.
Japan is prone to large earthquakes, but none were reported in the area this morning, our correspondent says.
The tunnel's closure, he says, is expected to bring traffic chaos as thousands of weekend travellers head back to Tokyo on Sunday afternoon.
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Ohio Sinkhole 4 Football Fields BIG takes out Highway
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2012, 10:55:38 PM »
Suck all the sand out from under a highway and it might collapse.  Who coodanode?

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Ohio Sinkhole Takes Out Highway, Larger Than Four Football Fields

December 01, 2012 07:02 PM EST
Even though Ohio played a large part in the election, it doesn't seem that they are immune from other disasters. According to WHYC, a huge sinkhole has opened along a stretch of rural highway, taking with it land and asphalt that used to make up that highway. The Ohio sinkhole only took minutes to happen, but several acres were demolished as a result.

Experts say that the hole is around the size of four football fields and took out a portion of State Highway 516 on Wednesday. The sinkhole happened because of the Newton Asphalt Companiy's efforts to dredge for sand below the surface. Lloyd McAdam, Ohio Department of Transportation District 11 Director, said that "dredging took away the bottom of the slope. That probably eroded away and started cascading down, and just started filling the hole and filling the hole."

It seems crazy that a company could be allowed to do so much damage to the land underneath a major highway that it could collapse that much land. There should be regulations against it, and if the company is still in operation, it should be heavily fined because it will be the taxpayers that are going to foot this bill. The worst part is that some experts are afraid that the massive Ohio sinkhole will grow even larger.
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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions/Bad Karma edition
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 10:34:12 AM »

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Anti-Obamacare rhetoric and restaurant Buzz

By: Ted Marzilli

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Anti-Obamacare rhetoric from Papa John’s CEO and a major Applebee’s franchise owner appear to have driven down both chains’ consumer perception with casual dining eaters in the US, and are still impacted two weeks after those remarks were made.

Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter’s post-Election Day comments about passing on health care reform costs by reducing worker hours and raising prices coincides with a swift negative reaction among casual food diners seemingly accelerated by the November 13th class action lawsuit accusing Papa John's of sending unsolicited text messages to customers.

Despite Schnatter’s Huffington Post op-ed on November 20th claiming his words were twisted, Papa John’s perception levels continued to experience one of its sharpest drops of the year, sending it well below rival Pizza Hut.

Zane Tankel, the CEO of Applebee’s franchisee Apple-Metro, appeared on Business News and made similar comments, saying Obamacare would force him not to hire any more workers and consider cutting their hours. Applebee’s perception had dropped since his TV appearance.

One exception to these two examples is Denny’s. Franchisee John Metz, who runs 40 locations, said in mid-November that he would add a 5% surcharge to customers' bills and reduce his employees' hours. Denny’s perception with casual diners declined afterwards, but much less so than Papa John’s and Applebee’s. However unlike those two chains, Denny’s has since rebounded close to where they were before Metz’s remarks, potentially due to CEO John Miller’s apologetic statement a few days later.

Papa John’s, Applebee’s, and Denny’s were measured with YouGov BrandIndex’s Buzz score, which asks respondents, "If you've heard anything about the brand in the last two weeks, through advertising, news or word of mouth, was it positive or negative?" Results were filtered adults 18+ who have eaten at casual dining restaurants in the past month.

Papa John’s Buzz score high point for the month came on Election Day – November 6th – with a score of 32. Eight days later, the score had dropped 10 points down to 22, when the spam text lawsuit was unveiled. A few days later, Papa John’s dropped below Pizza Hut’s score and is presently at 4.

Applebee’s had a 35 Buzz score on the eve of Election Day, when a few days later, Apple-Metro CEO Zane Tankel told Fox Business News he won’t build more restaurants or hire more people. By November 17th, Applebee’s score had fallen 20 points. As of this past Thursday, their score was 5.

After Denny’s franchisee John Metz’s Obamacare comments on November 17th, the chain’s buzz score dropped from 10 down to zero nine days later. However, they have since bounced back to 6, a higher score than both Papa John’s and Applebee’s.
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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 01:19:22 PM »
Apparently dealing with the cost of Obamacare should be approached quietly, so as not to scare the customers.

My favorite attack on Obamacare sees it not so much as an expense, but as a monopoly control and profit conspiracy between Big AG, AMA, Big Pharma, and Ins Companies.  He takes the case a bit far, but his basic theme seems valid.

GMOs PLUS OBAMACARE: YOUR TICKET TO SLAVERY
 
by Jon Rappoport
 
November 20, 2012
 
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At this late date, there are still people who don’t see the consequences of Obamacare. They cling to the notion that it’s simply a wonderful system that will allow more people to get vital medical care. That’s all they see or want to see.
 
 
They agree that medical treatment has an alarming toxic track record. But they don’t want to admit that Obamacare will spread that toxicity even further.
 
 
Why are these people blind? Because they think of themselves as caring humanitarians, and they fit Obamacare right into that self-serving picture. It’s part of their “religion.”

 
Also, they don’t want to “be negative.”
 
 
Some day, I’m sure, being negative will get you a public decapitation in the town square.

 
 
Okay. Here we go.

 
 
The recent study which revealed that rats fed with GMOs developed cancer is just one example of the health hazards of GMO food.
 
 
The argument advanced by the Monsanto forces and their allies is: “people who eat GMO food aren’t dropping like flies, so we’re all okay.”
 
 
This is a case made by con artists for idiots.
 
 
GMO crops were originally introduced with no human safety studies. The crops were given carte blanche because the whole approval process was rigged.
 
 
People could be developing cancers as a result of eating GMO food and no one would know. People could be developing serious digestive disorders and neurological problems and no one would know.

 
To pursue this in detail, read Jeffrey Smith’s classic, Genetic Roulette: The Health Risks of Genetically Engineered Foods. Smith lays out 65 GMO health risks, with references. He also shows how safety assessments of GMO foods fall horribly short.
 
 
The GMO overlords need a cover-story-diversion for the harm their foods inflict. That cover story will, increasingly, be fashioned and sculpted by Obamacare.
 
 
Obamacare will eventually morph into a blueprint of all diagnosable diseases and disorders, and permitted treatments. 
 

That’s what health insurance does. It assembles a comprehensive chart of what is covered by policies.
 
 
This will allow a perfect cover for the protection of “favored toxins.” In other words, when disease strikes as a result of GMOs, pesticides, other environmental chemicals, chemtrails, and so on, the medical diagnosis will fail to name the true culprits.
 
 
It’s called concealment.
 
 
Under Obamacare, who will put together that all-embracing list of permitted disease-diagnoses and treatments? The US Dept. of Health and Human Services. DHHS is a cabinet post under the president.
 
 
Therefore, the federal government (in collusion with pharmaceutical companies) will control, in great detail, the practice of medicine, and if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, I have condos for sale on Pluto. You think the CDC and FDA are overbearing now? You haven’t seen anything yet.
 
 
Here’s a case of how this con game would function:
 
 
Let’s say a young boy suddenly develops rapid mood swings. He’s up, he’s down, he’s all over the place. He throws tantrums, then he sits in his room and won’t talk to anyone.
 
 
Unknown to him or his parents, the cause of all this bizarre behavior was GMO corn. The inserted genes in the corn provoked a massive inflammatory response, in which his immune system attacked the myelin insulation surrounding his nerves.
 
 
But the medical diagnosis, according to the Obamacare chart of allowable interpretations: Bipolar disease.
 
 
Now come the Bipolar drugs. Lithium, Valproate, with their highly destructive adverse effects—and the sanctity of GMO crops is protected.
 
 
And to take this a step further, the company that produces and sells GMO corn seeds knows all this. It knows that many people who are being diagnosed with Bipolar are actually suffering from an autoimmune reaction to the genes inserted in the corn.
 
 
They have the perfect medical mechanism for covering up their secret.
 
 
In fact, this company is not just a GMO producer. It, like other giants, is also a chemical and pharmaceutical outfit. It makes a drug used to treat…Bipolar.
 
 
The circle is complete. The secret is protected, the money rolls in through several allied channels, and only the patient suffers.
 
 
Obamacare, in one of its several heinous aspects, is a stealth operation used to conceal crimes.
 
 
If you think this is science fiction, think again. It’s already happening. Researchers are madly probing for genes that cause cancer, and their PR people, based on no solid evidence, are trumpeting the “advances.”
 
 
Meanwhile, large numbers of people are developing cancer from exposure to pesticides. But the genetic diversion takes the public’s mind away from this fact into a more esoteric area.
 
 
As of 2012, people still have the right to enter a detox program aimed at ridding the body of stored pesticide chemicals. But up the line, the day will come when the Obamacare Program will rule that out as a permitted option for all people under the umbrella of the national health insurance plan. Meaning, everybody.
 
 
This is precisely what the drug companies want, which is why they participated in crafting Obamacare in the first place.
 
 
They want to lock down the population in a pharmaceutical arena and treat them from cradle to grave with their chemical agents.

 
No, you don’t see the lockdown now, as Obamacare enters the mainstream, but neither did you see drones flying overhead and giant computers recording every email, phone call, and product purchase you make, back in the day when the FBI was occasionally wire-tapping a suspect after obtaining a warrant.
 
 
These thing take time, but they happen.
 
 
Back when Lyndon Jonson announced an idea called The Great Society, you didn’t see the time when the US government would be spending a trillion dollars a year on means-tested welfare, or that at least half the country would want that sum to go higher without limit.
 
 
These things take time, but they happen.
 
 
In 1985, as the first word leaked out that corporations were experimenting with genes shot into food crops, you didn’t assume that, 25 years later, the world would be covered with GMO plants and that those genes would be floating and drifting into organic life from Pole to Pole.
 
 
These things take time, but they happen.

 
In the early 1950s, when Ritalin first arrived on the scene, you didn’t see that this highly toxic form of speed would be prescribed by doctors to more than five million children for a condition called ADHD, for which there is no diagnostic test.
 
 
These things take time, but they happen.
 
 
In the late 1940s, when young children received one vaccine, for smallpox, you didn’t see that the day would come when the CDC would recommend an incredible 55 doses of vaccines by age six, or that no studies would be done to assess the combined toxic effects of this vaccine load, or that the government would be trying to close down exemptions from vaccines.
 
 
These things take time, but they happen.
 
 
In the 1950s, as psychiatry was beginning to use a drug called Thorazine to treat “psychotic” patients, you didn’t see that the day would come when a bible of psychiatry, called the DSM, would list 297 distinct and separate “mental disorders,” none of which were diagnosed with any physical test. You didn’t see that the federal government would back, in every way possible, the pseudo-science of psychiatry, or that leading politicians and celebrities would endorse mental-disorder diagnosis and treatment with across-the-board toxic drugs. You didn’t see that some of these drugs would push people over the edge into committing murders.
 
 
These things take time, but they happen.
 
 
So it will be with Obamacare, as we move ahead. It will be used to lock down the population in a toxic pharmaceutical universe, and to gradually shave away competing forms of alternative healthcare.

 
This is the road we’re on. If, a few years ago, you didn’t think the freedom to pursue and manage your own health, according to your own desires, was important, you’d better believe it’s important now and in the future.
 
 
If you insist on clinging to the notion that Obamacare is a wonderful, wonderful thing, almost a religious sacrament, you don’t understand how history works, how things morph into other things, how agendas control that evolution, how what looked good at one moment turned into a nightmare, later on.
 
 
And as GMOs spread and cause disease, Obamacare will function as a steel barrier against doctors diagnosing patients with GMO-caused illnesses.
 
 
“You know, when the patient came to me, I was sure he was suffering from a form of autism. But now that I look more closely, I realize it’s the insect genes in the grain he’s eating.”
 
 
“Doctor, stop this nonsense. Consult your Obamacare Bible. Nowhere in it does it say there is a disease caused by GMOs. You can’t make that diagnosis. It won’t fly. You won’t get paid if you submit that insurance form. And you’ll get into trouble. Federal agents will visit your office. They’ll put you through the mill. They’ll threaten to cancel your ticket to practice medicine.”
 

“That’s ridiculous. That would never happen.”
 
 
“Oh no? Do you realize that, by statute, I’m required to turn you in? That’s right. I heard you say you wanted to make a diagnosis that wasn’t permitted by the Bible. I’m supposed to call Homeland Security. If I don’t, I’m guilty, too. I’m a co-conspirator.”
 
 
Give it time. Give it time.
 
 
Or if you don’t care, shut your eyes, and contemplate loving Obamacare, just as Winston Smith finally loved the State in Orwell’s 1984.
 
 
See: Dr. Barbara Starfield, “Is US health really the best in the world?” Journal of the American Association, July 26, 2000. Starfield revealed that, every year, the US medical system kills 225,000 people. Of those deaths, 106,000 are the result of FDA-approved drugs. Under Obamacare, these numbers will escalate.

 
Jon Rappoport
 
The author of an explosive collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com
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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2013, 08:20:59 AM »
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Believe it or not, I am just catching up with this article, due to the fact that the last two months has been a hellstorm of woes, serial crises on tentpoles as it were, and I have read only the recent posts. Interesting find, Joe Rappaport. He makes a compelling argument.

So I went to his blog, and found this. Both compelling and amazing. Bring back the Truvium! Even though I disagree with some of his libertarian bent, his conclusions seem pretty valid. And be sure to read the Coda, especially in light of Peter's recent posts.

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/matrix-programming-101-destroy-logic/

Matrix programming 101: destroy logic

By Jon Rappoport

January 10, 2013

www.nomorefakenews.com

Once upon a time, in medieval universities, new students enrolled in the Trivium. It was the foundation curriculum. It was required. Its parts were: grammar, logic, and rhetoric.

Grammar: the interior construction of language; the parts of speech; the proper agreement of parts of speech.

Logic: the valid and invalid connections in the course of an argument; the method of proper reasoning; the deductive links in a chain, at the end of which is a conclusion.

Rhetoric: oral presentation; the use of language to make a case; the capacity to persuade, even in the face of counter-argument.

Today, the subject matter of the Trivium is not only downplayed. It has been shattered.

This article focuses on the death of logic.

When the intensive handling of ideas is seen as a laughable goal for education, indoctrination is plugged in as the only alternative.

The mind of the student shifts from being an active force to being a container.

The destruction of logic is a conscious strategy, a game plan. Its goal is to pervert rational thought at its core and insert ideology masked as insight.

The game plan was cooked up a long time ago at the Carnegie Foundation, where the undermining of American history was the number-one pastime.

Instead of merely erasing knowledge of American history, it was decided that the basic way ideas are studied should be torpedoed.

The actual meaning of an idea was firmly placed on the back burner. Front and center would be: relentlessly assess and attack the people who forwarded those ideas.

And sure enough, this strategy has gained great prominence.

“The revered Founders of the Republic? Shysters, con men, slaveholders, monopolists who saw rebellion from England as the way to win greater power for themselves, at the expense of everyone else living on American soil.”

Therefore, the argument continues, and this is crucial, the Founders’ ideas, as expressed in the Declaration and the Constitution, were rotten to the core. The ideas can be dismissed out of hand as coming from “a bad source.”

If you want to see that sleight-of-hand trick in action, just visit a few American studies classes in universities and catch the wave.

Ideas no longer need to be judged on their sense, merit, and alignment with basic principles. Nor are they judged by their position in a well-formed argument. All that is out. Now, you have to “look to the source” and make all your decisions based on “who these people really were who expressed the ideas.”

And since that’s the case, learning to think or reason is unnecessary.

New education, then, once you strip away the old essentials, is really nothing more than learning who the bad guys were and the good guys were. This can be taught by ideologically motivated professors in a few hours.

In logic, this used to be called the fallacious ad hominem argument. Now it’s not called anything. It’s praised as the insightful way to do intellectual business.

In the case of the Founders’ ideas, we have, among others: the free market; individual freedom; private property; severely limited central government.

No need to examine these concepts. No need to assess, for instance the success of the free market, despite its corruption by criminals and monopolists, in providing a better standard of living for millions of people. Forget it. All you have to know is that the free market was proposed by phony American aristocrats who wanted more power for themselves. On that basis alone, you can reject the free market.

How about private property? Same thing. The same phony Founders put that idea forward; therefore, it must be wrong.

Thomas Jefferson? He owned slaves. Therefore, as the night follows day, everything he said or thought or did was wrong.

See how easy education has become?

Individual freedom? Another absurdity proposed by the crooked Founders. Reject it. Don’t bother thinking about what that freedom has allowed you to express. Who cares?

So, one by one, these core ideas fall to the ax, and criticizing America becomes destroying America.

To argue that very bad people have taken over an idea, and therefore the idea itself was never good, is like arguing that, since hijackers took over a plane, the plane was a despicable object altogether and probably deserved to be stolen or blown up.

Once the core ideas and ideals of the American Republic are destroyed, new ideas inevitably take their place. The possibilities are endless. But here is, in fact, what has happened:

Instead of the sanctity of private property and right of its owner to protect it, we now have, coming into vogue, “assigned use.” This means someone somewhere, at the top of the food chain, will decide how property should be deployed, for the greatest good of the greatest number.

He determines the definition of greatest good.

Instead of individual freedom, we have the collective need. Behavior should be adapted to the group. How this is defined falls to our leaders.

The free market becomes central planning and distribution of goods and services.

It can be quite interesting to discuss these matters with people who have been educated “in the new way.”

On the issue of the free market, I had a PhD candidate tell me this: The idea of the free market was a smokescreen. It was proposed as a way for the very rich to dominate commerce. The “free market” was a non-concept. It never existed. It was an illusion, like people sprouting wings and flying.

You might be surprised by the number of people who believe this. They are essentially saying that the very EXISTENCE of an idea depends on WHO expressed the idea. If the wrong person first expressed it, it was never real.

Students with a vast sense of self-entitlement and meaningless self-esteem love this stuff. It allows them to parade around and call the shots and decide which ideas are worthy and which aren’t, without reflection. They have a scorecard of good guys and bad guys and that’s all they need.

In the world of social engineering, here is the larger program:

first make every idea dependent for its value on who proposed it;

attack the men who created the Constitution and thereby trash all the founding ideas of the Republic;

instead, substitute the notion of oppressors and the oppressed—all the bad people who founded the Republic were the oppressors;

cultivate, encourage, and create many groups within society as “the oppressed”;

come in behind that with big government as the answer to the problems of the oppressed;

ratchet up dependence and government control to new heights.

Of course, big government, under its humanitarian banners, is a dictator. To maintain the illusion that it is not, there must be new oppressed people, new victims, new helpless people coming out of the woodwork all the time whom the government can help.

From this angle, it doesn’t matter whether the ever-growing dependent population is genuine or not. Sorting out the real from the imaginary obviously isn’t part of the program. Nor does it matter how government is disenfranchising people to make them into victims.

Some people see labeling themselves victims as a winning strategy for their lives. Others actually are getting their noses shoved down into the mud.

In our teaching institutions, you could look in vain to find courses on the individual, his freedom, his power. That’s gone.

It’s all about: what group do you belong to? What are the needs of that group? Who is oppressing your group? How can you get government to solve the problem?

Once the oppressor-oppression model is set in stone, everything that follows is a disaster.

Oppressor-oppression equals victim-rescuer. The rescuer turns out to be a tyrant. He gives and he takes. He makes the rules. He builds his power.

If you can educate the young to make snap judgments about core ideas, you eliminate their capacity to reason. You own them.

You turn them out as programmed androids. They follow your game plan.

From that point on, they hold a hostile attitude toward anyone who can discuss and analyze ideas. They look at such people as an entitled and privileged class who is speaking a foreign language. If overnight, you discovered that the most elevated members of society were all speaking Hungarian and nothing else, do you think you could maintain a friendly attitude toward them?

Here is another tool of the new education. Blur over the distinction between a widespread condition and a universal defining condition. For example, yes, there are oppressors and there are people they are oppressing. True. But to move from that and say the very ideas at the core of society were designed, everywhere and at all times, to create only oppressors and the oppressed…that’s a vast generality which leads to all-inclusive programmatic general solutions.

And those solutions, voila, turn out to be the means of making slaves.

Criticizing America is productive only when it has a reference point for comparison. A rational discussion to establish the reference point is essential. Are we going to hold up a mirror to the founding ideas of the Republic, or are we going to say, for example, that the true and proper purpose of government should be to alleviate suffering? And if the latter, what exactly does that alleviation entail? How far does it go? Who does it punish in the process?

This isn’t a brush-off conversation. In order to participate in it, people have to be able to follow a train of thought. If they can’t, because they were educated not to, where are we? We’re in the dark. We’re living by slogans.

Freedom? Liberty? Collective need? Responsibility? It doesn’t matter what ideas are on the table, because the overwhelming number of people don’t know what an idea is. They don’t know how to walk up to one and look at it from several sides. They don’t know how to trace its implications. They don’t know how to fit that idea alongside its cousins. They don’t see a Whole. They see the ceaseless spinning machinery of an alien process, from which they’ve been excluded.

Then, no matter what shape society takes, it’s a dumbshow, as far the majority of its citizens are concerned.

Who solves that?

The invasive State takes charge. It picks up the pieces of the wreckage it was a key actor in delivering.

Ever since the ratification of the Constitution, the actions of the federal government have confirmed the need for the limitations written into that document. New needs and crises have “demanded” illegitimate expansion of federal power.

In order to convince the people that this expansion was, at every turn, vital, the goal of educating citizens about what it means to take part in a Republic had to be blunted. This was done, a step at a time, through education.

Dismantling the ability to reason, employ logic, and handle ideas was the prow of that destructive campaign.

And yet…logic isn’t only a subject that’s taught to students whose minds are a blank slate. There is an inherent tendency toward rational thought that persists, despite programming to the contrary.

For example, if a television station or web site offered a prolonged debate between two intelligent people on the meaning of the 2nd Amendment—a real debate, not just a brush-off—many viewers would be intensely interested.

I’m talking about an old-style debate, one that lasted at least several hours, with each proponent allowed sufficient time to make his case fully. No name calling or shouting of slogans. No interruptions from either side. No stupid moderators.

This traditional long-form format would serve to wake people up to the fact they have minds, they can think, they can spot contradictions and non-sequiturs.

Or, as I’ve suggested before, why not a Debate Channel, devoted exclusively to key issues of our time, taken up in the long-form?

True, many viewers would tune out. But others would feel a jolt of inspiration. A sense of deja vu. “I’ve been here before. I can’t remember when.”

Yes, they’ve been here before, when they could think and reason, before the curtain was lowered.

Actual reasoned debate could become a growing trend. And by contrast, the insane nonsense that presently passes for argument on television would be highlighted as a counterfeit substitute, a fool’s errand.

You can make your own list of vital issues you’d like to see debated, in the long-form, by people who know their material (not merely the usual dome heads and pundits). I have my list.

It’s never too late to wake up. It really isn’t.

For instance, suppose we had a ten-hour reasoned debate, over the course of two days, on television, or on the Web, on this simple question:

What really happened at Sandy Hook?

Do you think that might draw a few viewers?

Are you kidding?

It would outrank many major network programs. It would put the networks’ coverage to shame.

Never a bad thing.

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Coda: Here is an illustration of no-logic in action:

It occurs in a recent article in the Washington Post, “Uncle of young Newtown shooting victim turning tragedy into action.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newtown-victims-uncle-takes-action/2013/01/16/4679b1ce-6030-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_story.html

From the headline alone, we pick up the slant of the article. It’s going to praise the uncle for being able to turn grief into action.

The uncle is attorney Alexis Haller. His nephew, Noah Pozner, was killed in the Sandy Hook shooting.

The Post article tells us that Haller has worked as a lawyer for the Vatican. We don’t learn exactly what he did for the Vatican, but it’s more or less suggested that, because Haller has a keen interest in “reporting requirements,” where child abuse is occurring, he may have had something to do with the Vatican now “expecting” (requiring?) bishops to report pedophile priests to law-enforcement authorities.

This is quite fuzzy. The Post doesn’t clarify what role, if any, Haller played in the new Vatican expectations/requirements.

Nevertheless, the article presses on to indicate that Haller saw a way to codify reporting requirements in situations of imminent violence, like Sandy Hook. In fact, Haller has written (or made notes on?) a bill:

When a person “has knowledge of a grave or imminent threat of serious harm or death made by someone with access to a gun,” that person must notify the police within 24 hours.

Haller has met with Joe Biden’s committee and discussed his proposal.

The article doesn’t bother to take up how this bill, if made into law, would be enforced, or what implications might flow from it—such as the birthing of an expanded snitch mentality; and excessive, wrong-headed, or even malicious reporting in cases where the threat of imminent violence wasn’t real.

No, this article, we learn, is more a human interest story about Alexis Haller and what’s he’s motivated to do in the wake of the death of his nephew.

The Post article doesn’t bother to cover Haller’s actual history as a defense lawyer for the Vatican. For example, in a case involving the sexual abuse of a Portland, Oregon, boy, in the 1960s, where a 2011 suit was filed against the Holy See, Haller was defending the Vatican, claiming that the pedophile priest, Andrew Ronan, was committing crimes against children without the knowledge of the Holy See, and was not an employee of the Vatican.

Why is this significant? Because the Post article states: “Haller had crafted and forwarded several proposals to prevent future gun violence that were shaped by his experience as a lawyer for the Holy See.”

Which part of that experience? Ahem, cough-cough.

By the end of the article, we know nothing about the precise wording of Haller’s new bill to limit gun violence.

We do know that he was tragically connected to the Sandy Hook shootings. We know his initial efforts to have input in new gun legislation were ignored. We know he overcame that problem. We see his posed picture above the article, in which he’s walking in the rain under an umbrella.

We understand the Post is “on his side.”

This is the old Ad Hominem argument, in which the person forwarding an idea is more important than the actual content of the idea…except in this case, the person isn’t being attacked, he’s being praised.

As if that gives more credibility to his idea, the precise legal content of which we don’t know.

Perfect.

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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions/Inauguration day
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As usual, Charlie Pierce has the whole scene covered. Savage beatdown of the chattering classes and what passes for our politics. Magisterial, almost Thompsonesque. Priceless.

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Tom Brokaw is reputed to be a respected newsman and clearly doesn't have any idea how the economy works or the fact that, in Social Security and Medicare, what we have been "giving people...for a long time" is their own goddamned money that they paid into the system over their working lives, which he would like to extend? Or is it because Tom Brokaw has a hair-curling contempt for his fellow citizens and is a smug, entitled foof who will not feel a thing from the pain he is recommending be brought down on other people? Is he someone who should be ignored, or is he someone who should be smeared with honey and left among the fire ants?

Our lines are open.


http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Inauguration_Gobshitery?src=spr_FBPAGE&spr_id=11245

What Are The Gobshites Saying These Days?
By Charles P. Pierce
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WASHINGTON — Welcome back to our weekly survey of the state of Our National Dialogue which, as you know, is what Vivaldi would have come up with, had he composed The Four Sea Monkeys.

Inauguration Weekend! Time for us all to lay aside our partisan bickering and celebrate our glorious republic, in which we are all guaranteed the right to go on the electric teevee set and tell our fellow citizens that the sun rises in the plain, where the rain falls mainly on the Spain. Or something. Sooner or later, on one of these Sundays, one of these shows is going to pass out of the plane of physical reality and disappear into a higher realm in a chorus of fairy farts. In that spirit, we begin this week with Face The Nation, hosted (as always) by former Tang Dynasty environmental correspondent Bob Schieffer, on which, honest to god, several allegedly intelligent primates surveyed the past four years and came to the remarkable conclusion that the reason not much got done was because Barack Obama has gone all gangsta up in Lady Liberty's grill, yo.

Let us begin with Bob (The Watergate Replacement Replicant) Woodward, who told Schieffer that Obama declines to work and play well with the feral children and is thus spitting on the grave of the Venerable Katie Graham, the Patron Saint Of Social Climbing.

I remember Katharine Graham, the publisher of the Washington Post, used to always say 'it's hard to not like someone who says they like you.' You talk to senators and congressmen, as you know, and they feel Barack Obama doesn't like them or is at least indifferent to them. And so you have all of these conflicts in negotiations and they end... Look, the President has the upper hand now and will for some time, but you know in any... Condi Rice knows so well, any negotiation you need to leave the opponent with their dignity and the president is going out and sticking his finger in their eye.

So the president, who has been called stupid, lazy, a Kenyan, un-American, and every other synonym for "uppity" that ever occurred to Bull Connor, and of whom his legislative opponents have said quite openly that their goal was to wreck his agenda, has been engaged so far in "sticking his finger" in the eye of his political opposition. I swear to Christ, listening to Woodward, I'm starting to believe Nixon was framed. Following with her own bucket of bushwah was professional Clinton apologist Dee Dee Myers, who yearned for the golden era when the Republicans were investigating blowjobs and the Democratic president was knuckling welfare moms.

But first, a bad historical analogy.

You have to let the other guys leave the table saying they got something for their side, because they're giving up — they are going to give up something big if it's going to be an important deal. And I think that — that this White House has not done that as successfully as they need to. And I think — you know, otherwise you end up with Versailles right. You solve the First World War with a treaty that sows the seeds of the second one. And that's not in anybody's interest and this President has not been as good at that as he could be.
Barack Obama: The Georges Clemenceau Of American Politics.

Let us proceed.

I was talking to Newt Gingrich recently about what made Clinton a great negotiator and he said he listened all the time to — to find a piece of common ground where a deal could be built. This is from the Speaker of the House who worked to impeach the President. And all through that period, they were looking for a piece of common ground. And I think this administration will be well served to do that. 

The thoroughness with which the lunatic conservative war against Bill Clinton has been shoved down the memory hole is truly remarkable. After all, it was the template for the lunatic conservative war against the current president. There were four years of having Washington politicians and the courtier press believe every tall tale that came out of every fish camp in Arkansas. There was an economic plan that didn't garner a single Republican vote. There was a government shutdown. There was a nearly two-year pursuit of the president's penis all around the Beltway, led in the main by adulterous hypocrites like N. Leroy Gingrich, Definer Of Civilization's Rules And Leader (Perhaps) Of The Civilizing Forces. There was, in fact, the destruction of Gingrich's political career. And Myers looks back on that time as a model for what she wants to be happening now because Gingrich and Clinton put their respective adulteries aside long enough to pass a welfare "reform" bill that was punitive enough to get Clintion re-elected? We need better Democrats here. But this discussion of A World That Can Never Be would not be complete until we heard from the Magic Dolphin Queen, who has been living in the higher realms of fairy farts since half-past a gimlet in 1986.

We are essentially a fifty-fifty country still. So you would think the President would have spent the past few weeks going forward and saying let's all be together. Instead he has been very sharply, definitively us guys versus you guys by going at the Republicans on the Hill, by speaking in a way that is very sour about why Republicans take the stands they take. He implicitly is speaking about Republicans in the country who are half the country. I think that's a new way to play it, a tough and dicey way to play it. 

There are three policy-making institutions in the federal government. The Democrats control two of them. More people voted for the Democratic presidential candidate than for his Republican rival, and that was only a couple of months ago. More Democrats got elected to the Senate. More people voted for Democratic candidates for the House than voted for Republican candidates for the House. This is not "a fifty-fifty country" unless you divide by the square root of VAT 69 and then multiply by the cosine of Pi in the sky. And can we at least acknowledge, if we're going to be talking about "the country." that the president's approval has gone nowhere but up since he started being a little less concerned with Republican fee-fees.

Condoleezza Rice said something, too, but since it didn't include the phrase, "I am sorry for having been the most incompetent National Security Advisor in history," I paid it no mind.
Over on ABC, This Week With The Clinton Guy Horrified By Blowjobs was enlivened by the presence of Rick Santorum, and have I mentioned recently what a colossal dick Rick Santorum is? He, too, has a big Sad because the president is not embracing any portion of the lunacy on which he based his second-place Republican presidential campaign.

"That's the problem with this administration. They don't - they're not very gracious winners. And I always said, you know, there's one thing worse than a sore loser, and that's a sore winner. And the president's a sore winner...He could get something done on deficits and entitlements, but he's got to move his people to do that, instead of forcing Republicans always to come his way. And that's the problem." 

Yes, he could do that, but then he would be, I dunno, maybe, a Republican? Hell, Rick, you lost your last statewide race by 15 points to a walking shadow named Bob Casey, Jr., and then you were such a colossal dick that Willard Freaking Romney looked good by comparison. And people should listen to you, why, exactly?

Santorum then deigned to get his ass handed to him by Jennifer Granholm, acting as the spokesperson on behalf of common fking sense.

GRANHOLM: Why not armor-piercing bullets? Why do you need that?
SANTORUM: Because — because we're talking about a particular type of bullet that — that is — is and can be available to...
GRANHOLM: Deer don't wear armor. Why do you need an armor-piercing bullet?
SANTORUM: But criminals could. And having — having...
GRANHOLM: And police officers certainly do.
And the kitty comes screeching from the burlap. When you hear people like Santorum defending armor-piercing bullets, and you hear the people in the hinterlands talking about watering the tree of liberty, put it together and you know what they're talking about?

Cop-killing, that's what.

Goons.

And we close at Disco Dave's Disco Dance Party, where Tea Party whackaloon Ted Cruz made a debut so stunning that the Dancin' Master came very close to calling him out.

SEN. CRUZ: Well, it — that — that statistic is actually pretty bogus. It — it's based on a study before the background checks were put into place and — and so — we've — that — that study is highly questionable, that 40 percent. GREGORY: I don't know, Wayne LaPierre never questioned that study when I brought up that point. He had a question about the feasibility and — and correcting — collecting records, but there's still a loophole that a lot of people would like to correct.

Steady there, big guy. Luckily, later on, Tom Brokaw, The Man Who Invented World War II, came along later to explain that all we really have to do to get our house in order is starve the olds and the poors according to universally rejected Republican principles.

I think that there's a desperate need for the country going forward to do something about tax reforms and entitlements fitting under the umbrella of fixing the economy and creating more jobs and stop the spending. That's going to be tough. We've been giving people things for a long time. Now they're going to have to start reeling them in and fine tuning them, and that's going to take an exceptional hand in the White House to pull that off. So that's a daunting task. 

Is that more disgusting because Tom Brokaw is reputed to be a respected newsman and clearly doesn't have any idea how the economy works or the fact that, in Social Security and Medicare, what we have been "giving people...for a long time" is their own goddamned money that they paid into the system over their working lives, which he would like to extend? Or is it because Tom Brokaw has a hair-curling contempt for his fellow citizens and is a smug, entitled foof who will not feel a thing from the pain he is recommending be brought down on other people? Is he someone who should be ignored, or is he someone who should be smeared with honey and left among the fire ants?

Our lines are open.


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Re: Surlynewz, Analysis and Outrageous Opinions
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2013, 11:09:10 AM »
Re: Jon Rappoport

Nothing like original, logical and rational thought that sheds light on the control scheme(s).

Perhaps we could get him to crosspost here??

Overall, some very interesting ideas.  Can thoughtcrime be far away??

I have problems with some libertarians who criticize goverment, support corporations and are unable to admit that corporations OWN government.  Those are (usually) libertarians with corporate support. 

Jon's writing shows enough signs he might be an ex-member of that libertarian camp to be sometimes irritating.  Obviously, as long as the corp-rats own goverment (and media, academia, etc), libertarian or other reforms that corporations disapprove of will not happen. 
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Santorum then deigned to get his ass handed to him by Jennifer Granholm, acting as the spokesperson on behalf of common fking sense.

GRANHOLM: Why not armor-piercing bullets? Why do you need that?
SANTORUM: Because — because we're talking about a particular type of bullet that — that is — is and can be available to...
GRANHOLM: Deer don't wear armor. Why do you need an armor-piercing bullet?
SANTORUM: But criminals could. And having — having...
GRANHOLM: And police officers certainly do.
And the kitty comes screeching from the burlap. When you hear people like Santorum defending armor-piercing bullets, and you hear the people in the hinterlands talking about watering the tree of liberty, put it together and you know what they're talking about?

Cop-killing, that's what.

Somehow I don't see Granholm, Santorum or Pierce mentioning the 450 MILLION .40cal hollow point bullets the Dept of Homeland Security ALONE has - not to mention FBI, NSA, Local and State Law Enforcement, Big Ass Military, with asset forfeiture, indefinite detention, drone killing of Americans on the books.

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2013, 06:42:21 PM »
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Santorum then deigned to get his ass handed to him by Jennifer Granholm, acting as the spokesperson on behalf of common fking sense.

GRANHOLM: Why not armor-piercing bullets? Why do you need that?
SANTORUM: Because — because we're talking about a particular type of bullet that — that is — is and can be available to...
GRANHOLM: Deer don't wear armor. Why do you need an armor-piercing bullet?
SANTORUM: But criminals could. And having — having...
GRANHOLM: And police officers certainly do.
And the kitty comes screeching from the burlap. When you hear people like Santorum defending armor-piercing bullets, and you hear the people in the hinterlands talking about watering the tree of liberty, put it together and you know what they're talking about?

Cop-killing, that's what.

Somehow I don't see Granholm, Santorum or Pierce mentioning the 450 MILLION .40cal hollow point bullets the Dept of Homeland Security ALONE has - not to mention FBI, NSA, Local and State Law Enforcement, Big Ass Military, with asset forfeiture, indefinite detention, drone killing of Americans on the books.

None of them want to question authority.

None of them know WTF they are talking about either, or they fake ignorance well.

How many folks know what an armor piercing round is??

The primary definition is military, originated before so-called body armor, and had to do with defeating armored vehicles.  Such AP small arms rounds that civilians can currently buy are damned scarce.  They are sometimes available in old military surplus .30'06, which just exceeds the old military definition, and .50 BMG AP rounds, which are effective against light armor.  Newer military enhanced penetration rounds (M855A1 for example) are now fielded in other small arms calibers,  these seem specifically designed to penetrate body armor and retain accuracy but are usually (an exception is M995) not designated as AP.

Then there is the political definition, which will be whatever they want.

Common (level III, IIIA) body armor, typically worn daily by police and some civilians, is designed to stop most handgun rounds.  Handgun rounds designed to defeat this armor have mostly been illegal for civilians since 1986 per Title 18, U.S. Code Section 922.  If we define "armor piercing" to mean defeating defeating this "armor" then most rifle rounds designed for deer or larger game are "armor piercing", as are many rifle rounds that might be inadequate for deer.  Hunters don't need "armor piercing" capability, but with this definition it came with the territory;  losing that capability will require new weapons for the vast majority of deer hunters.

Common military body armor is designed to stop shrapnel and 9mm rounds.  Uprgaded plates were added ~2006 - present with increasing capability, some which (when they work) will stop many common rifle rounds, even some AP.  There have been several recalls of various upgrade plates and "improvements" continue.  Currently AFAIK, serious body armor capability is still incompatible with adequate mobility for infantry operations. (ie. Slow troops die anyway and/or are unable to persue their lighter equipped foe.)  Heavy body armor (level IV) similar to the most capable military body armor is sometimes worn by police SWAT teams. etc

So why is there a problem here? 

The Second Amendment codifies an inherent right of "the people" to keep and bear arms.  Arms are the tools required to wage war

The founders envisioned the ordinary citizen as the primary defender of the nation.   With their own weapons, as part of a volunteer militia,  able bodied men of military age who could afford weapons were expected to respond with them when needed.   Therefore constitutionally, the ordinary citizen is entitled to own and carry any weapon issued to infantry.  Just try it!!

The Second Amendment was also intended to thwart the development of a standing army (fail!), to prevent unnecessary war (fail!), and to check tyrannical government (fail!).

None of our fearless leaders want to restore the Second Amendment.  As for the NRA why would we need them if the Second Amendment were truly restored?

So defending the Second Amendment, which effectively no longer exists, degenerates into fighting crime and supporting self defense, hunting and target shooting;  none of which have anything to do with it.
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2013, 08:38:49 PM »
Of course, big government, under its humanitarian banners, is a dictator. To maintain the illusion that it is not, there must be new oppressed people, new victims, new helpless people coming out of the woodwork all the time whom the government can help.

From this angle, it doesn’t matter whether the ever-growing dependent population is genuine or not. Sorting out the real from the imaginary obviously isn’t part of the program. Nor does it matter how government is disenfranchising people to make them into victims.

Some people see labeling themselves victims as a winning strategy for their lives. Others actually are getting their noses shoved down into the mud.

In our teaching institutions, you could look in vain to find courses on the individual, his freedom, his power. That’s gone.

It’s all about: what group do you belong to? What are the needs of that group? Who is oppressing your group? How can you get government to solve the problem?

Once the oppressor-oppression model is set in stone, everything that follows is a disaster.

Oppressor-oppression equals victim-rescuer. The rescuer turns out to be a tyrant. He gives and he takes. He makes the rules. He builds his power.

If you can educate the young to make snap judgments about core ideas, you eliminate their capacity to reason. You own them.

You turn them out as programmed androids. They follow your game plan.

From that point on, they hold a hostile attitude toward anyone who can discuss and analyze ideas.

Whats wrong with that? I bet John Rappoport is a male, and a europeasn male, and even a mid aged euro male is why hes complaining. patriarchy goin down my brother, i mean sister.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2013, 09:01:30 AM »
Don't worry-- be happy. Radiation is now a vitamin.

Fish caught near crippled Japanese N-plant with 2,500 times the legal limit of radioactivity for human consumption

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2265732/Mike-Murasoi-fish-contaminated-radiation-Fukushima-nuclear-disaster-2-500-times-legal-limit.html#ixzz2JNu73VAQ] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2265732/Mike-Murasoi-fish-contaminated-radiation-Fukushima-nuclear-disaster-2-500-times-legal-limit.html#ixzz2JNu73VAQ[/url]

Caught as part of Tokyo Electric's scheme to monitor seafood near the plant
Firm says nets will now be installed 20km off the coast to try and prevent contaminated fish migrating
Fish lives in shallow reefs near the plant
Comes as the two year anniversary of the nuclear disaster approaches



A fish caught close the the Fukushima nuclear plant is over 2,500 times the legal safe radiation limit for seafood, the plant's operator has revealed.

The company Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) caught the fish, dubbed 'Mike the Murasai' online, in the bay close to the Fukukshima Daiichi main reactor.

It was confirmed by Tepco to have amounts of radioactive cesium equal to 254,000 becquerels per kilogram, or 2540 times the limit of 100 becquerels/kg set for seafood by the government.


The Murasoi caught by Tokyo Electric Power which had over 2,500 times the legal limit of radiation for seafood due to Fukushima fallout

Scientists in the region are increasingly worried that other fish in the area are feeding off these and other contaminated species.

However, the murasoi specimen caught near Fukushima did not seem to show any major abnormalities in terms of its physical appearance.

Tepco is installing a new series of nets beneath the surface of the water around the 20 kilometer perimeter in hopes of restricting the migration of the contaminated fish outside of the region.

A report in October last year found radiation levels in most kinds of fish caught off the coast of Fukushima haven't declined in the year following Japan's nuclear disaster in March 2011.

An earthquake knocked out nuclear plant's cooling system, causing three reactor cores to melt and spew radiation into the ocean.

Researchers believe that deposits of the chemical cesium on the seafloor or leakage from the damaged reactors is continuing to contaminate the waters - and has the potential to threaten fisheries for decades.

The levels in the fish are also 10 times higher than the radiation measured last August in scorpion fish caught near Fukushima.


The crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant is seen in Okumamachi, Fukushima prefecture, northern Japan. Experts have found a fish in a nearby port over 2,500 time the legal limit for radioactivity in seafood

On 21 August last year, Tepco announced that rockfish caught in the Pacific Ocean within the circular area of ​​20 km around the plant, which is closed to all human activity, had a level of 25,800 becquerels of cesium per kilogram .

The fish is a murasoi, which typically lives in shallow waters near reefs in the region.




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The breathtaking moment thrill-seeking surfer catches 'world's biggest wave' off the coast of Portugal

    Surfing legend Garrett McNamara rode the enormous wall of water to shore as bystanders looked on in amazement in Nazare, Portugal
    He is believed to have beaten his own record for the biggest wave ever surfed by catching the 100ft break


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his thrill-seeking surfer was but a speck on this enormous wall of water as he appeared to set a new world record for the biggest wave ever ridden.

Surfing legend Garrett McNamara caught the towering wave - believed to have measured around 100ft - off the coast of Nazare, in Portugal, yesterday.

If the claims are verified the U.S. born athlete will have successfully beaten his own record, which was also set at Nazare, when he successfully rode a 78ft high break at the end of 2011.

Mr McNamara, 44, was born in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, but his family moved to Hawaii's North Shore when he was 11.

His previous record breaking ride in 2011 was described as 'inspiring' by fellow pro-surfers.

The surfer's latest breathtaking feat came yesterday, as huge waves crashed off the coast of Nazare throughout the day.

The exposed beach break in the north of the country attracts surfers all year round.

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