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Re: The Surlynewz Channel
« Reply #2970 on: November 23, 2017, 08:38:02 AM »
Fascinating stuff.

 I get what the author is saying, but I can't help but think there is a subset of critical thinking people who are much better informed than they would have been in the age of print, because they have the desire and the  ability to dive deep into research on just about any topic that interests them. The autodidacts of the world, turned loose in a very much bigger library than ever existed in times past.

No doubt this group, though, is quite small in relative terms, to the kind of instantly bored, stimulation seeking (yet dumbed down) masses. So I postulate that the information superhighway sorts people in a new and interesting way. One direction lies scholarship. The other, info-tainment.

Kinky Friedman used to write about his friend Ratso, who "had every book ever written about Jesus and Hitler". Some of us are like that now. I know one person, for instance, who reads practically everything about climate change and renewables. I know another who is deeply immersed in our current politics. I now know almost everything there is to know about publicly traded cannabis companies.

But for everyone like that, there are probably a thousand who get their information from sources like Fox News or Brietbart, and have no clue that all the information they're accessing is carefully filtered, and a thousand more who just want to watch Netflix or surf Tumblr.



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Re: WHAT TRUMP REALLY TOLD KISLYAK AFTER COMEY WAS CANNED
« Reply #2971 on: November 23, 2017, 11:20:30 AM »
EXCLUSIVE: WHAT TRUMP REALLY TOLD KISLYAK AFTER COMEY WAS CANNED

The Israeli Intelligence Community states that Trump betrayed them.

Of course.

Some very smart people knew this would happen over a year ago.



Trump win greeted with worldwide trepidation

But there is more. Are you aware of the fact that the U.S. was one of the three countries that just REFUSED to sign a U.N. Resolution condemning Nazi-ism? That was less than a week ago.

Trump is a NAZI, plain and simple. He will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING within his power to make Fascism GREAT again,






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Re: The Surlynewz Channel
« Reply #2972 on: November 23, 2017, 12:25:28 PM »

Surly,

In the above, otherwise well written, article, there is a problem of perception that I first ran into in college when I was taking Social Sciences at Miami Dade Junior College (1965) shortly after I left West Point.

We were assigned to read a book (The Lonely Crowd) that you may have read, although I am certain the right wing 'greed is good' fanatics that frequent this site have never heard of it, no matter how much college or education they claim to have.

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The Lonely Crowd is a 1950 sociological analysis by David Riesman, Nathan Glazer, and Reuel Denney. It is considered, along with White Collar: The American Middle Classes, written by Riesman's friend and colleague, C. Wright Mills, a landmark study of American character.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lonely_Crowd

I read it. I did NOT just read the Cliff Notes. Beyond the snippet I just gave you from wikipedia, I did not review the book I read so many years ago to impress anybody here. I am responding to the article because that instantly retrieved "The Lonely Crowd" out of long term storage in my memory banks.

Here's the deal, Surly. A person is either driven by outside influences (peer pressure) or he is not. Yes, we all have a mixture of influences, both from without, and from within, that govern our behavior. But the ASSUMPTION that we are invariably governed by peer pressure is only valid if peer pressure ALWAYS overrides personal principles. Now, those Social Darwinst fascists at the helm of the media corporations that want to control our every whim probably believe that.

I do not. And you should not. A shit sandwich disguised as a chocolate chip cookie is still a shit sandwich, even if 40,000 bought and paid for bullshit artists are telling you otherwise.

What this boils down to is perception. The media fascists are attempting, as our gooberment and happy talk propaganda based social institutions have ALWAYS been trying to do (SEE: The Lonely Crowd), the "join the in crowd" con. They want us to feel "left out" if we do not do what "everybody else is doing".

But you and I know that everybody else is NOT "doing that". The polling of the American public makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR that they are on the right side of almost every issue of importance and value to an egalitarian socialist type government structure.

AND, most people, except for the allegedly big brained right wingers (like some who post here, who claim most people in the USA are ignorant rubes that swallow any bullshit, no matter how much it harms their best interests - how convenient for the right wing profit over people and planet Capitalist bastards.), DO REALIZE they are being handed a daily shit sandwich by the media and the gooberment.

Yeah, divide and conquer is what is going on. Yeah, they want to tear us apart. Yeah, they want to use the PERCEPTION (totally FALSE, but very convincing through bought and paid for repetition) that people who are guided by principle and not by the mob are outliers (i.e. anti-American/anti-Capitalist/Communists, etc. ad nauseum).

True, we all want to belong. But anyone who is willing to sacrifice their principles in order to "belong" is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

The article gives way to much weight to our need for peer group acceptance and ZERO weight to every average human's daily objective analysis of what is genuinely good for an individual and the society that he lives in (i.e. PRINCIPLED behavior).

I am not a Maslow robot. If the author believes that we humans, who certainly do possess base instincts that can, under certain conditions, be manipulated to our detriment and some bastard's profit (i.e. Capitalism), CANNOT function in any other way (i.e. Social Darwinsm is IT), then I must protest.

Social Darwinsim is NOT "IT". Maslow is NOT "IT".

We behave on principle or we perish. That is not hard to understand unless a person deliberately refuses to value principles because they deliberately refuse to give any value to morality based behavior. The book I read in college, The Lonely Crowd, TOTALLY missed the issue of principle. I said so then, even though I was an atheist at the time! LOL!

Yeah, I know Surly; I'm an outlier.
 
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John Samuel Tieman: Re-enactment
« Reply #2973 on: December 12, 2017, 04:36:17 AM »
John Samuel Tieman: Re-enactment

A friend invited me to a Civil War re-enactment. He was well meaning enough, although why he’d think that I, a Vietnam veteran, would enjoy such a thing, who knows?

Then he said, “It’s realistic.”

To which I replied, “You want realistic? Here’s realistic. Fill their rifles with real bullets and let them shoot each other’s guts out. But that’s not even the worst part.

“The one who lives, the dead guy’s war buddy, there’s where you’ll find your realism. The survivor, in five years he’ll think how his buddy would have graduated from college. In ten years, how his buddy would have started a family, bought a little house. In a park one day with his own kid, fifteen years from now, he’ll imagine how his buddy would shag some flies with a son.

“But he won’t. Because he died.

“Twenty years. Thirty. And on it goes until forty years from now, he visits a memorial and puts his hand on the cold stone of his war buddy’s name – re-enact that. That’s realistic.”


Copyright 2017 John Samuel Tieman

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