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« Reply #240 on: April 18, 2019, 12:24:21 PM »
The best homo sushi has to offer in 2019 is half ass ....

Then why do you believe we can build interstellar starships and colonies on Mars? ???  :icon_scratch:

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1st of allll.....

There not built, there organically grown & who the fuq wants to go to mars. You on an Elon Comic book mega marathon read.
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Re: French Fried Frog Frexit
« Reply #241 on: April 18, 2019, 12:40:11 PM »
The best homo sushi has to offer in 2019 is half ass ....

Then why do you believe we can build interstellar starships and colonies on Mars? ???  :icon_scratch:

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1st of allll.....

There not built, there organically grown & who the fuq wants to go to mars. You on an Elon Comic book mega marathon read.

Newz Flash.  There are no "organically grown" starships coming off any production line in this quadrant of the galaxy universe multiverse.  There are however numerous succesful and well built 3D printed structures.  Also 3D printed Gunz.  ;D


You are not terrifically consistent in your theories AZ.

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Re: French Fried Frog Frexit
« Reply #242 on: April 18, 2019, 12:41:23 PM »
David said 1000 years.

They should just tear down the Notre Dame cathedral and let David build a mosque like Saddam Hussein's. (Yes, this was a real thing.)

Probably be a good move. Lots of people think a Muslim torched Notre Dame anyway. Macron would damn sure never admit it, even if it was true.

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Re: French Fried Frog Frexit
« Reply #243 on: April 18, 2019, 12:52:47 PM »
The best homo sushi has to offer in 2019 is half ass ....

Then why do you believe we can build interstellar starships and colonies on Mars? ???  :icon_scratch:

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1st of allll.....

There not built, there organically grown & who the fuq wants to go to mars. You on an Elon Comic book mega marathon read.

Newz Flash.  There are no "organically grown" starships coming off any production line in this quadrant of the galaxy universe multiverse.  There are however numerous succesful and well built 3D printed structures.  Also 3D printed Gunz.  ;D


You are not terrifically consistent in your theories AZ.

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Your glue-pot runneth over amigo !

Now were talking polystyrene & card board.

How do we go from unobtainium level white granite to Mattel Inc. level toyz ?
I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world.
You don’t know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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« Reply #244 on: April 18, 2019, 02:12:58 PM »

Your glue-pot runneth over amigo !

Now were talking polystyrene & card board.

How do we go from unobtainium level white granite to Mattel Inc. level toyz ?

Don't write when you are wasted on ethylene glycol, you embarass yourself.  You don't use polystyrene for printing a gun.  You'll use polycarbonate and/or glass filled polyamide which can also be reinforced with anything from silver to titanium in addition to carbon fiber and glass fiber.

Obviously 3D printing has not made it to the 5th Dimension yet.  Get back to me when you return to earth in this dimension.

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Re: French Fried Frog Frexit
« Reply #245 on: April 18, 2019, 03:38:23 PM »

Your glue-pot runneth over amigo !

Now were talking polystyrene & card board.

How do we go from unobtainium level white granite to Mattel Inc. level toyz ?

Don't write when you are wasted on ethylene glycol, you embarass yourself.  You don't use polystyrene for printing a gun.  You'll use polycarbonate and/or glass filled polyamide which can also be reinforced with anything from silver to titanium in addition to carbon fiber and glass fiber.

Obviously 3D printing has not made it to the 5th Dimension yet.  Get back to me when you return to earth in this dimension.

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Well aren't we the Shell answer man today. Where's your lab coat & test tube.

A little side note here...

Your rain in the third is our PISS in 5.
I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world.
You don’t know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2019, 04:01:20 PM »
Well aren't we the Shell answer man today. Where's your lab coat & test tube.

A little side note here...

Your rain in the third is our PISS in 5.

You learn a lot about chemistry when you go to one of the top science research Universities in the world and work as chief lab gnome for Charlie Cantor, one of the world's foremost Biochemists.

Your piss is of no matter to me, I have plenty of umbrellas in the preps.  I even have one that clamps on my cripple cart.  :icon_sunny:

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« Reply #247 on: April 18, 2019, 05:58:24 PM »
Well aren't we the Shell answer man today. Where's your lab coat & test tube.

A little side note here...

Your rain in the third is our PISS in 5.

You learn a lot about chemistry when you go to one of the top science research Universities in the world and work as chief lab gnome for Charlie Cantor, one of the world's foremost Biochemists.

Your piss is of no matter to me, I have plenty of umbrellas in the preps.  I even have one that clamps on my cripple cart.  :icon_sunny:

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Was that at Columbia ?

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« Reply #248 on: April 18, 2019, 06:03:39 PM »
Well aren't we the Shell answer man today. Where's your lab coat & test tube.

A little side note here...

Your rain in the third is our PISS in 5.

You learn a lot about chemistry when you go to one of the top science research Universities in the world and work as chief lab gnome for Charlie Cantor, one of the world's foremost Biochemists.

Your piss is of no matter to me, I have plenty of umbrellas in the preps.  I even have one that clamps on my cripple cart.  :icon_sunny:

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Was that at Columbia ?

Yah.

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🔥 As Notre-Dame money rolls in, some eyebrows raised over rush of funds
« Reply #249 on: April 19, 2019, 12:06:26 AM »
Might be nice if some of those $millions$ helped some of the Gilet Jaunes with their taxes...

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As Notre-Dame money rolls in, some eyebrows raised over rush of funds

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PARIS, April 17 (Reuters) - Pledged donations from French billionaires, companies and ordinary citizens for the restoration of fire-ravaged Notre-Dame cathedral are approaching 900 million euros after just two days, a reflection of the landmark's resonance in the national psyche.

But the outpouring has prompted questions from charities, politicians and commentators about why some of the business donors have offered so much so quickly, including speculation about how they might benefit from tax breaks on the donations.

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People on social media, both in France and abroad, have expressed frustration that other disasters - from the Syrian and Iraq refugee crisis to the Grenfell Tower fire in London - have not received anything like the same degree of support.

The first major donation to Notre-Dame came from Francois-Henri Pinault, the billionaire head of luxury goods group Kering that owns fashion brands Gucci and Saint Laurent.

Pinault, 56, a celebrity figure in part because he is married to actress Salma Hayek, pledged 100 million euros ($113 million) as the blaze was still raging - a decision dictated by emotion, a spokeswoman for his family's holding company said.

Hours later, his great rival Bernard Arnault, France's richest man and the head of Louis Vuitton owner LVMH, announced he was donating 200 million euros, moved by the alarming pictures on TV, according to a group spokesman.

The Bettencourt-Meyer family, the largest shareholder in L'Oreal, followed suit a while later, pledging a combined 200 million euros alongside the global cosmetics group.

Brand and reputation experts said the quick response by some of France's most recognizable corporate titans made sense, especially since the disaster involves a national symbol.

Adrian Palmer, the head of the marketing and reputation faculty at the Henley Business School, said all three billionaire families and their companies were closely aligned with the nation, and benefit from reinforcing the link.

"These brands stand for France and they sell around the world, so anything that puts the France brand at the center of people's minds is going to help them and how they are regarded," he said. "It creates positive associations in people's minds, that they are generous, caring and good."

Online, LVMH's announcement of the donations was met with a host of comments on Twitter, from France and abroad, suggesting the money might be better spent in Africa or combatting climate change than rebuilding a cathedral. Others suggested the generosity was little more than smart marketing.

Palmer said that even from a non-marketing point of view, early offers of support could be beneficial for a company's political positioning. All three firms are broadly supportive of President Emmanuel Macron and want to be seen as helpful with backing for his calls to rebuild.

"Macron has been facing protests," he said, referring to the "yellow vests" street demonstrations against the high cost of living that have rocked France for months. "In a sense the disaster at Notre-Dame has become a unifying issue, so they want to show they are aligned."

 

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Still, there has been blowback. Charitable donations benefit from a 60 percent tax deduction in France, which prompted immediate suggestions by critics that Pinault, Arnault and the others were being less magnanimous than initially appeared.

"It's the public that will end up bearing the cost," said Gilles Carrez, a member of parliament for the center-right Les Republicains party, who sits on the finance committee.
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The Pinault family, which was at odds with Macron last year on issues of tax and the president's policies towards the poor, said in a statement on Wednesday it was renouncing any tax advantage it might get from its donation.

LVMH - which had benefited from large tax breaks to build the Louis Vuitton Foundation in western Paris - dismissed the notion it was merely trying to boost its image.

"The only thing at issue here is to try and raise as much funding as possible to address this urgent issue, and that goes beyond any tax or accounting calculations," the LVMH group spokesman said in response to questions from Reuters.

The Bettencourt-Meyer family has declined to comment on its donations.

All three companies and the families behind them are already closely associated with the arts and cultural giving in France, which makes their rapid collective offer of half a billion euros to support a 12th-century Gothic masterpiece less surprising.

"No doubt big brands want to genuinely demonstrate their empathy and show support to the re-building of an artifact that is not just a building but a cultural symbol," said Keith Glanfield, a professor at Aston Business School.

"By some this may be seen as no more than a cynical attempt to sell more product."

 

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On Twitter and Facebook, and in the auditorium of the European Parliament, the question was less about whether they and others should give, and more about why such generosity was going towards an old building hit by a disaster in which no one died.

"We are very attached to where Father Pierre's funeral was held," said the Abbe Pierre Foundation, a homelessness charity named after a priest whose 2007 funeral at Notre-Dame was attended by then-President Jacques Chirac.

"But we are equally committed to his cause. If you could contribute even one percent of the amount to the homeless, we would be moved," it said on Twitter.

Speaking to European lawmakers on Tuesday, teenage climate campaigner Greta Thunberg said she did not want to diminish the Notre-Dame fire, but wished there was an equal outpouring of support to combat issues such as climate change.

Markus Renner, a professor of brand management in Switzerland and the founder of the International Brand and Reputation Community, said he was surprised to see Pinault, Arnault and the Bettencourts give so much so quickly.

"Why not wait and find out how much is needed and then step forward?" he said, pointing out that the billionaires and companies could have given the money silently, but chose not to.

"It seems to be a little bit tactical and very much from the gut," he said, adding he doubted whether German companies would step up so promptly if Cologne cathedral burnt down.

If the fire ends up being covered by insurance, the charitable donations may not end up being needed to finance the restoration.

(Additional reporting by Sarah White Writing by Luke Baker Editing by Frances Kerry)
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🔥 Paris police use tear gas against 'yellow vest' protesters
« Reply #250 on: April 20, 2019, 09:46:34 AM »
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Paris police use tear gas against 'yellow vest' protesters

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Updated 12:22 PM ET, Sat April 20, 2019


Who are France's 'yellow vest' protesters?

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(CNN)Riot police unleashed tear gas at the so-called yellow vest protesters in central Paris who marched Saturday for the 23rd consecutive weekend.
The French capital was the scene of chaos as police confronted protesters, who set off small fires. Video shows heavy black smoke in the air. Police also used water cannons to disperse the crowds.
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Protesters take cover from tear gas during an anti-government demonstration called by the "Yellow Vests"
The Paris prosecutor's office said 110 people were placed in police custody.
This is the first demonstration since the devastating fire this week at the Notre Dame cathedral. The Interior Ministry told Reuters that by early afternoon, 9,600 people were demonstrating across France, including 6,700 in Paris.
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The protesters, who chanted, sang and played musical instruments as they marched, are rallying against economic injustice. Some say the hundreds of millions of dollars in donations to rebuild Notre Dame is a glaring sign of the inequalities in the country.
The government had warned protesters that police would use "all means necessary" to stop demonstrations from getting out of control.
More than 60,000 police were deployed across France to deal with the protests, Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said.
So-called &quot;street medics&quot; carry an injured protester amid tear gas.
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There were protests in other cities including Bordeaux, Reuters reports. And police also fired tear gas in the city of Toulouse, where thousands were demonstrating.
The "gilets jaunes," or yellow vest, protests began as a campaign against a gas tax hike, but have morphed into a broader rally against President Emmanuel Macron's government.
Macron had been set to make a televised address to the nation Monday and announce measures to diffuse the unrest. He spoke instead about the Notre Dame blaze.

Macron is now set to make his announcement Thursday, according to Reuters.
In his New Year's address, Macron referred to the movement without naming it. He acknowledged anger against injustice but said hateful speech would not be tolerated, and called on people to respect each other. He also has pledged to increase the minimum wage and scrap new pension taxes to appease the protesters.

Barbara Wojazer and Saskya Vandoorne in Paris have contributed to this report
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France's Yellow Vest protesters return to the streets enraged by billions pledged to rebuild Notre Dame
By Robert Gearty | Fox News


Billions pledged to rebuild Notre Dame Cathedral fuels protests in Paris

Enraged Yellow Vest protesters clash with police after an outpouring of money to restore the church; Molly Line reports from the scene.

Yellow Vest protestors in Paris battled police during violent clashes Saturday -- newly enraged at the more than billion dollars that have been pledged to rebuild fire-damaged Notre Dame Cathedral, overshadowing their anti-wealth cause.

Black-hooded demonstrators set fire to trash cans, scooters and a car and pelted police with rocks to draw attention anew to their 23rd weekend of protest.
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Many protesters are frustrated that the international effort to help Notre Dame has drawn more attention than their five-month-old Yellow Vest movement against wealth inequality, The Associated Press reported.
A man runs by a burning motorbike during a demonstration in Paris, Saturday.

A man runs by a burning motorbike during a demonstration in Paris, Saturday.  (AP)

Many protesters were deeply saddened by the fire at a national monument. But many are angry at the $1 billion in Notre Dame donations that poured in from tycoons while their own demands remain largely unmet and they struggle to make ends meet.

FRANCE'S YELLOW VESTS: WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY WANT, AND WHY
Police walk among burning vehicles during a Yellow Vest demonstration in Paris, Saturday, April 20, 2019. French Yellow Vest protesters are marching anew to remind the government that rebuilding the fire-ravaged Notre Dame Cathedral isn't the only problem the nation needs to solve.

Police walk among burning vehicles during a Yellow Vest demonstration in Paris, Saturday, April 20, 2019. French Yellow Vest protesters are marching anew to remind the government that rebuilding the fire-ravaged Notre Dame Cathedral isn't the only problem the nation needs to solve. (AP)

Authorities deployed 5,000 police around Paris and warned protesters to keep away from Notre Dame and the banks of the Seine.

The Paris police headquarters said authorities detained 126 people by early afternoon and carried out spot checks of more than 11,000 people trying to enter the capital for Saturday's protests.
Flames burned iconic Notre Dame church for hoursVideo

Police fired tear gas amid tensions at a march of several thousand people from France's Finance Ministry toward the Place de la Republique plaza in eastern Paris. Barricades were set ablaze at one spot, and branches set on fire elsewhere. Firefighters quickly responded to extinguish the flames.

Police in other parts of France reported more Yellow Vest protests Saturday.
A demonstrator throws back a tear gas canister during a Yellow Vest demonstration in Paris, Saturday, April 20, 2019.

A demonstrator throws back a tear gas canister during a Yellow Vest demonstration in Paris, Saturday, April 20, 2019.  (AP)

FRANCE'S MACRON TO RESPOND TO YELLOW VEST ECONOMIC CRISIS

French President Emmanuel Macron plans to announce a new policy push in response to the “Yellow Vest” protest on next week, Reuters reported.
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🔥 Notre Dame fire pledges inflame yellow vest protesters
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Notre Dame fire pledges inflame yellow vest protesters


Notre Dame fire pledges inflame yellow vest protesters

Demonstrators criticise donations by billionaires to restore burned cathedral as they march against economic inequality.

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Notre Dame fire pledges inflame yellow vest protesters

Yellow vest demonstrators wave flags as they protest for a 23rd week [Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images]

Paris, France - Holding signs that read "What about the poor?" and chanting "Justice for all," France's yellow vest protesters, ignoring the displays of unity by the French political class in the wake of the Notre Dame fire, marched through the streets of Paris and other cities on Saturday, vowing to persevere in what they called "Ultimatum 2".

"These [protests] are very important for social justice," said Jean-Baptiste Redde at the Saturday protest on Republique Square in central Paris. "We have to help the poor, the disabled people, those who don't have roofs to live under. It's important to hold on."

Hundreds were arrested and dozens injured as violence broke out between demonstrators and police.

The French capital quickly became the epicentre of Saturday's violence, with 9,000 protesters reported in Paris alone, according to the French Ministry of the Interior, and police sealed off entire sections of the city.

While the protests started out peacefully, almost with a carnival-like atmosphere, violence erupted as thousands of demonstrators approached the Place de la Republique.

People threw rocks at police who responded with tear gas and stun grenades.

With 9,000 protesters, Paris quickly became the epicentre of Saturday's violence [Mustafa Yalcin/Anadolu]

It was the twenty-third demonstration by the loosely organised, disparate movement that is mainly united in its resentment over the lack of economic equality in France and displeasure with President Emmanuel Macron, whom many see as a "president of the rich".

The grassroots movement that started on social media has proven to be one of the biggest tests of Macron's presidency, with protesters refusing to let this week's fire at Notre Dame pause their demonstrations, even as the president and French political parties put aside politics and halted campaigning for the upcoming European Parliament elections.

In fact, in some ways, the fire on Monday inflamed some protesters because of the hundreds of millions of euros raised immediately afterwards to restore the 850-year-old Notre Dame.

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Some of that money was pledged by French billionaires such as French luxury group Kering's CEO Francois-Henri Pinault and LVMH head Bernard Arnault as well as companies such as French oil giant Total.

"I would like us to get back to reality," said Ingrid Levavasseur, one of the informal leaders of the movement, speaking on French BFM TV last week.

Levavasseur said it was important to criticise "the inertia of large companies and [billionaires] in the face of social misery as they display their ability to raise a crazy amount of money in a single night for Notre Dame".

Her comments and others were widely shared on social media. Many agreed.

"If they are able to give tens of millions to rebuild Notre Dame, then they should stop telling us that there is no money to counter social inequality," Philippe Martinez, head of France's CGT workers union, told French radio last week.

The sentiment was reflected on the streets of Paris on Saturday.

"Billions should also be given to the poor, to help the environment, to promote biodiversity," said Redde holding a sign that read, "Millions for Notre Dame - and what about the poor?"

"But Macron and this government only want to help the rich, so we can't stop."

Jean-Baptiste Redde at the Yellow Vest protests in Republique square holds a sign reading 'Millions for Notre Dame - and what about the poor?' [Jabeen Bhatti/Al Jazeera]

'A pointless debate'

The fire at Notre Dame, which is revered by all French people - Catholics, Muslims and Jews - as part of France's cultural and historical legacy, set off a national outpouring of grief.

As a result, the anger at the donations set off a backlash within the government and among the public.

"It is a pointless debate," said Culture Minister Franck Riester, interviewed on RMC radio. "To say, 'there's too much money for Notre Dame and there is need elsewhere' - of course, there is need elsewhere for healthcare, the fight against climate change. But Notre Dame is not only a collection of old stones. It's a part of our identity."

France's Minister of the Interior Christophe Castaner was more pointed.

"The rioters have not been visibly moved by what happened at Notre Dame," he said angrily, shortly before the ministry announced that France would deploy 60,000 police officers on Saturday and prevent any protesters from getting near Notre Dame and the Champs-Elysees where, in March, they set fire to a bank, smashed the front of a renowned restaurant, and looted stores.

It's difficult to say the protests are no longer legitimate because of the Notre Dame fire. Life goes on. And so do the yellow vests.

Jean-Michel Aphatie, political commentator

Meanwhile, the public is already growing weary of the protesters - recent polls show support for the yellow vests has dropped by half from 80 percent. An Odoxa poll released on Friday indicated that a slim majority of French wanted the demonstrations suspended.

"I'm tired of this," a clothing shop owner in the Marais, a major tourist district next to Republique Square, told Al Jazeera privately. "For five months, we have had almost no business - the tourists are not coming here because of the protests."

Notre Dame even gave pause to some within the movement. Many in the movement on Tuesday called for protests to be delayed in deference to the "national tragedy" at Notre Dame.

'Too little, too late'

Monday's fire broke out just an hour before Macron was scheduled to give a televised address detailing a series of policy reforms in response to the yellow vest protesters and their grievances. The speech was cancelled at the last minute and rescheduled for next Thursday.

Even so, copies of the taped speech sent to reporters were leaked. In it, Macron promised to lower taxes for the middle class, reconsider his decision to cut a "fortune solidarity tax" on top earners, and make adjustments to the lowest pensions for inflation.

Macron was also set to announce the closure of the highly prestigious Ecole nationale d'administration, a college that trains public servants. Many have criticised the school as a place reserved for the elite. 

A closed shoe store on Saturday near the busy retail district of the Marais [Jabeen Bhatti/Al Jazeera]

The Odoxa poll showed the majority of French citizens supported these changes. But many yellow vest demonstrators and others continued their chant of "too little, too late" and vowed to continue protesting for weeks to come.

"Pfff - blah, blah, blah," was the reaction of Catherine Lopis when asked about Macron's plans.

"I voted for him (Macron) - had no choice but him or [far-right leader Marine] Le Pen. But he isn't interested in helping anyone other than bankers. Our problems are not his problems so it is easy for him to turn away."

Jerome Rodrigues, a leader in the movement, said on Saturday the postponement of Macron's speech was calculated.

"The world stops turning when there is a fire in France?" he wondered during an interview on French television.

"I think it was a government strategy to get some information leaked to buy time to then better sell us his new programme, changes he wants to make that we are denouncing here at the demonstration."

'Protesters have a point'

"These protests aren't going to end any time soon," said French radio personality and political commentator Jean-Michel Aphatie.

But without concrete goals and a clear leader, Aphatie said the movement is struggling to be effective and bring concrete change.

"The only thing they know for sure is that they want to go out every Saturday to protest," he said, referring to the fact the protests have run continuously every Saturday since November 17, even though they have grown smaller.

Even so, he added the protest did have legitimacy. The French have seen their purchasing power decline over the years and many are struggling to make ends meet.

"It's difficult to say the protests are no longer legitimate because of the Notre Dame fire," Aphatie said. "Life goes on. And so do the Yellow Vests."

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A protestor lights a motorbike on fire during a yellow vest demonstration in Paris, Saturday, April 20, 2019. French yellow vest protesters are marching anew to remind the government that rebuilding the fire-ravaged Notre Dame Cathedral isn't the only problem the nation needs to solve. (AP Photo/Michel Euler)

PARIS – With French police suicides on the rise, officials are expressing shock and anger after some yellow vest protesters encouraged police to kill themselves.

Radical protesters have clashed with police nearly every weekend for five months on the margins of largely peaceful yellow vest demonstrations for economic justice.

On Saturday, Associated Press reporters heard some protesters in Paris shouting "Kill yourselves!" at police firing tear gas and rubber projectiles and charging the crowd to contain the violence.

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Police unions denounced the protesters' call, which prompted indignation online. Interior Minister Christophe Castaner called it a "disgrace."

Police unions held silent protests Friday after two officers killed themselves last week. Unions say police ranks have seen 28 suicides so far this year, compared to 68 over all of 2018.
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