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« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2016, 07:17:23 PM »
retarded

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less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.

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Yup. Not grown up yet.

Retarded folks never "grow up".  They become adults but their mental faculties get stuck at some point in their development.

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This applies to a certain percentage of humans, for sure.   Growing up is hard to do. (As the song goes)

The fascinating thing is that this rule applies likely applies as much to whole societies, cultures, civilizations as it does to individuals.  I actually find this fact hypothesis/theory ... much more interesting. 

I hypothesize that those societies which are led or guided (supported, served) by true human adults are those societies which are most apt to produce the conditions in which human adulthood would be the birthright of the majority of its members.  And that those which are led/guided by the 
"retarded" are the most likely to produce the greater number of "retarded" individuals. 
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« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2016, 07:26:07 PM »
I hypothesize that those societies which are led or guided (supported, served) by true human adults are those societies which are most apt to produce the conditions in which human adulthood would be the birthright of the majority of its members.  And that those which are led/guided by the "retarded" are the most likely to produce the greater number of "retarded" individuals.

The problem is in the size of the society.  When it grows too large it becomes very impersonal and leadership loses connection with the people they lead.  The system also tends to reward power seekers and the greedy.  So you end up with retards running the show.

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« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2016, 08:06:35 PM »
"... retards running the show."

Sounds like the new trump reality tv show.  You know, the one in the White House?
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« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2016, 08:09:16 PM »
I hypothesize that those societies which are led or guided (supported, served) by true human adults are those societies which are most apt to produce the conditions in which human adulthood would be the birthright of the majority of its members.  And that those which are led/guided by the "retarded" are the most likely to produce the greater number of "retarded" individuals.

The problem is in the size of the society.  When it grows too large it becomes very impersonal and leadership loses connection with the people they lead.  The system also tends to reward power seekers and the greedy.  So you end up with retards running the show.

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Yeah, greedy power seeking retards...just like Trump.  God help us!

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« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2016, 08:19:53 PM »
I hypothesize that those societies which are led or guided (supported, served) by true human adults are those societies which are most apt to produce the conditions in which human adulthood would be the birthright of the majority of its members.  And that those which are led/guided by the "retarded" are the most likely to produce the greater number of "retarded" individuals.

The problem is in the size of the society.  When it grows too large it becomes very impersonal and leadership loses connection with the people they lead.  The system also tends to reward power seekers and the greedy.  So you end up with retards running the show.

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Yeah, greedy power seeking retards...just like Trump.  God help us!

Forget the Foxes in charge of the Henhouse.  Now we have the Retards Running the Roost::)

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Trumpty-Dumpty & Vlad the Impaler: A Marriage made in...
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2016, 03:09:21 AM »
...Heaven or Hell?  ???  :icon_scratch:

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Trump and Putin: A relationship where mutual admiration is headed toward reality


Depending on who you ask, Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, will find it easy to take advantage of Donald Trump’s inexperience — or Trump will use his dealmaking skills to improve U.S.-Russia ties. (Michael Klimentyev /Pool via European Pressphoto Agency)
By Karen DeYoung and David Filipov December 30 at 8:17 PM

For much of this year, Donald Trump and Vladi­mir Putin have been engaged in a long-distance courtship. They have said kind things about each other in public and separately expressed visions of a mutually agreeable future.

Since Trump’s election, the anticipation has become more explicit. It culminated this week in the U.S. president-elect’s call for America to “move on” from allegations of Russian electoral hacking, and the Russian president’s blithe pronouncement Friday that he would rather plan for a new relationship with Trump than retaliate in kind to sanctions and expulsions ordered by outgoing President Obama.

“Great move on delay (by V. Putin),” Trump tweeted. “I always knew he was very smart!”

But as with all such arms-length pairings, the looming question is whether Trump and Putin will find fulfillment or disappointment once face-to-face reality strikes.

U.S. and Russian officials and experts are deeply divided over the answer. Some see Moscow playing Trump like a fiddle. The Kremlin “sees Trump’s presidency as a net loss for the U.S. strategic position that Russia should take advantage of,” said Vladi­mir Frolov, a Moscow-based analyst.
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Others depict the Russians as genuinely willing to deal and cautiously optimistic about improved relations under a U.S. president who has none of the prejudices they see in the Obama administration.

[Putin says he won’t deport U.S. diplomats as he looks to cultivate relations with Trump]

While some fear that Trump has no firm understanding of the policy complications ahead and the threats posed by Russia, others say Trump the dealmaker may be just the right person to set relations back on a road to cooperation that will benefit U.S. national security.

Trump has identified areas of shared U.S.-Russia interests, including counterterrorism in general — and rolling back the Islamic State in particular — as well as countering nuclear weapons proliferation. He has suggested that there are deals to be struck with Moscow on Syria and Ukraine, indicated that NATO’s strong defensive posture on Russia’s western border may be negotiable, expressed skepticism about sanctions — unless applied to Iran or North Korea — and implied that the fuss over Russian electoral hacking is overblown.

Some of his pronouncements have huge policy gaps and contradictions. In Syria, for example, how would counterterrorism cooperation with Russia against the Islamic State influence Trump’s plans to crack down on Russian ally Iran, which has its own interests in both Syria and Iraq?

The first indication of policy substance may come two weeks from now, when Trump’s nominee for secretary of state, Rex Tillerson — the ExxonMobil chief executive who has argued that sanctions against Russia hurt U.S. business — appears before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Several Republican lawmakers, including committee Chairman Bob Corker (Tenn.), have said that any move to begin a new relationship with Russia by diluting or removing Ukraine-related sanctions is a nonstarter.

[Senate Democrats plan to run their Trump playbook against Tillerson

Putin and his advisers have spoken about a desire to improve relations, although there is no Kremlin expectation that Inauguration Day will bring an overnight change. While pleased by the direction in which Trump appears to be moving, Moscow sees “policy incoherence” so far from the president-elect, said Thomas Graham, who served as senior Russia director on George W. Bush’s National Security Council staff and is now managing director at Kissinger Associates.

“If I read what the Russians have been saying, they don’t expect relations to turn around quickly,” Graham said in an interview. “They’re surprised that on the Western side it’s seen as if President Trump is going to hand over the keys to the barn to Russians.”

But however disjointed and contradictory his shorthand policy prescriptions have seemed so far, “the vision in the Kremlin is that even though Trump is a novice in foreign policy, he has a record of striking deals that benefit him, as well as a team of experienced advisers,” said Maxim A. Suchkov, an analyst at the Russian International Affairs Council, a Moscow think tank.

Some Russian experts said the Kremlin realizes that if Trump moves too fast — especially in the wake of the hacking scandal — it would probably cause strong pushback from Congress and elsewhere. Instead, they see Putin’s most recent actions as part of the pre-inauguration theater, preparing the ground for a hoped-for, but still uncertain, future.

“Putin will play this as Obama acting like a deranged and spiteful madman, while Trump is a real gentleman who needs to be treated like a gent by Russia,” Frolov said of Putin’s low-key response to the sanctions and expulsions. The Russian president “does not want to do anything that would make it even harder for Trump to move positively on Russia,” he said.

[Obama administration announces measures to punish Russia for 2016 election interference]

Others detected a more nefarious strategy at work in Putin’s gambit. “I think it’s brilliant,” said Steve Hall, who ran Russia operations for the CIA before his retirement in 2015. “It solidifies the relationship and plays straight to Trump’s ego. It allows Trump to say, ‘See, the Obama administration is behaving childishly, and we need to act much more professionally.’ ”

Putin, Hall said, is also probably maneuvering to gain maximum leverage over an incoming president whose constant touting of himself as a dealmaker makes him need a deal more than Moscow does. Now, he said, Putin can greet the new president by saying: “You still owe me one. I can pull that back and make you look like you’re not the great negotiator you say you are.”

Despite differences on how to deal with individual conflicts, think tanks across Washington have advised Trump to end the Obama-era policy of not talking to the Kremlin and to begin a new, across-the-board dialogue.

On its own, “dialogue won’t be enough in and of itself over time,” Andrew C. Kuchins, a senior fellow and research professor at the Center for Eurasian, Russian and East European Studies, said in an interview. “The Trump folks would make a huge mistake if they unilaterally repealed sanctions. Congress would re-legislate them, creating a Jackson-Vanik situation,” he said, referring to the 1974 law that restricted the president’s ability to trade with Soviet Bloc countries that restricted human rights.

After interviewing policymakers and experts in this country and in Russia, Kuchins this month issued a lengthy report for the Center on Global Interests, recommending an elevation of the U.S.-Russia relationship to the presidential level “as incentive for Moscow to adjust and accommodate,” and a bilateral renewal of dialogue on a range of issues, from arms control and terrorism to cybersecurity. At the same time, he wrote, a “calibrated” approach must include a firm U.S. commitment to NATO allies and the continuation of a credible deterrent against Russian encroachments in Eastern Europe.

“This is not a call for a ‘reset’ or a ‘strategic partnership,’ ” Ku­chins wrote, “but a reevaluation of the excessive risks the United States is running with the current downward trajectory of U.S.-Russia relations. Containment or deterrence alone cannot mitigate these risks.”

Mark Dubowitz, executive director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, while emphasizing that he did not necessarily support it, outlined a possible play for Trump that would combine several policy priorities. “You could see a Trump administration potentially diminishing or suspending U.S. sanctions on Russia, working with the Europeans, recognizing the de facto annexation of Crimea, and making clear the United States is not going to permit Ukraine to join NATO or the European Union. It would be a signal to Putin that NATO expansion has stopped.

“But at the same time,” Dubowitz said, “in exchange for what are significant concessions to Putin, you get agreement to roll back Iranian influence in Syria and to make changes” to the Iran nuclear deal, which both the United States and Russia negotiated.

Overall, experts stressed the need for transparency and communication on a range of issues that are now at a stalemate.

“We don’t want this to spin out of control. We need to have conversations to understand what people are doing so that we don’t misread each other,” said Graham, who declined to comment on media reports that he is under consideration as Trump’s ambassador to Moscow.

The question, Graham said, is whether Trump has the patience to take his time. “Will Trump understand that negotiations with Russia need to be from a position of strength? That means he needs to have the allies behind him. Are you, Trump, so enamored with Putin that you decide first thing you need to sit down and have a conversation, or do you do it the way other presidents did?

“Are you going to see him at the end of a European trip, where you talk to the allies first and make sure you have a common understanding of the challenge, a common understanding of how you’re going to deal with it? To then say: ‘We’re now going to sit down with you, Mr. Putin. . . . We’re prepared to take your interests into account, but you also need to take our interests into account.’ ”
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“I actually think the Russians may not expect that,” Graham said. “But they would respect it and be able to deal with it.”

Filipov reported from Moscow. Greg Miller, Karoun Demirjian and Robert Costa in Washington contributed to this report.
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2017, 08:01:15 PM »
Can the Righty Show get any better than this?  ???  :icon_scratch:

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    The amendment was proposed by Republican Virginia Rep. Bob Goodlatte
    This move would weaken ethics oversight in Congress

Washington (CNN)House Republicans voted 119-74 Monday night in favor of a proposal that would gut Congress' outside ethics watchdog and remove its independence.
Republican Virginia Rep. Bob Goodlatte's proposal would place the independent Office of Congressional Ethics -- an initial watchdog for House members but without power to punish members -- under oversight of those very lawmakers.

House Speaker Paul Ryan and other top GOP leaders opposed the change to ethics rules, but rank-and-file members disregarded their views and voted to approve the new structure for ethics reviews going forward, according to a senior House GOP leadership source familiar with the closed door discussion.
The proposal would bar the panel from reviewing any violation of criminal law by members of Congress, requiring that it turn over any complaint to the House Ethics Committee or refer the matter to an appropriate federal law enforcement agency. The House Ethics Committee would also have the power to stop an investigation at any point and bars the ethics office from making any public statements about any matters or hiring any communications staff.
And the ethics office would no longer be able to accept or investigate any anonymous reports of alleged wrongdoing by members of Congress.
The full House of Representatives will now vote on it as part of a larger rules package up for consideration on Tuesday.
Goodlatte argued that changing the ethics review process "strengthens the mission" of the office and it will remain the panel to review potential rules violations.
"It also improves upon due process rights for individuals under investigation, as well as witnesses called to testify. The (ethics office) has a serious and important role in the House, and this amendment does nothing to impede their work," Goodlatte said in a written statement Monday evening.
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2017, 08:46:23 AM »
The first half to two thirds of that post looks like clutter and gibberish. Right?
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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2017, 08:51:12 AM »
The first half to two thirds of that post looks like clutter and gibberish. Right?

Artifact of the paste and the way CNN has their HTML set up.

If you want a clear read, follow the link to the CNN original site.

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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2017, 05:09:46 PM »
I'll go the Podesta emails looking for phishing emails, and get to the bottom of this (I hope).  Bit short on time right now.

https://www.rt.com/news/372640-russia-wikileaks-assange-source/
'14-yr old kid could do it’- Assange on Podesta email hack
4 Jan, 2017

Even a 14-year old teenager could have hacked the emails of Hillary Clinton's campaign chief, John Podesta, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has said in an exclusive interview with Fox News.

"We published several ... emails which show Podesta responding to a phishing email," Assange stressed speaking from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London.

"Podesta gave out that his password was the word ‘password’.  His own staff said this email that you’ve received, this is totally legitimate. So, this is something ... a 14-year-old kid could have hacked Podesta that way,” he said in an interview which aired on "Hannity" Tuesday night.

He added that neither the Russian government nor “a state party” was the source of emails from Podesta, published on the WikiLeaks website.

“We can say, we have said, repeatedly that over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party,” Assange said.

Assange noted that for some reason, “the word WikiLeaks” was missing in recent statements from the FBI and White House, even when US President Barack Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats in what he said was Washington’s “response to the Russian government’s aggressive harassment of US officials and cyber operations aimed at the US election.”

“It’s very strange,” Assange told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. Asked whether he thought Obama lied to the American people about Russia’s involvement, Assange replied that the outgoing president has been “acting like a lawyer” with his allegations.

“If you look at most of his statements, he doesn’t say that. He doesn’t say that WikiLeaks obtained its information from Russia, worked with Russia,” Assange said.

    Julian Assange said "a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta" - why was DNC so careless? Also said Russians did not give him the info!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 4, 2017

The 45-year-old Australian said the Obama administration was meanwhile trying to “delegitimize” US President-elect Donald Trump ahead of his inauguration.

“They are trying to say that President-elect Trump is not a legitimate president,” Assange said.

There is “zero evidence” that Russia influenced the US presidential election, incoming White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said on Fox News on Tuesday, adding that it would be “irresponsible to jump to conclusions” before receiving a final intelligence report.

Spicer noted that the preliminary report, published on Thursday, was basically just “a how-to manual for the DNC as to how they can improve their IT security.”

“The way the mainstream media is playing this up is that [Russia] had an influence on the election,”Spicer added.

Earlier, CIA Director John Brennan said the forthcoming intelligence report would set the record straight. “I would suggest to individuals that have not yet seen the report, who have not yet been briefed on it, that they wait and see what it is that the intelligence community is putting forward before they make those judgments,” he told PBS on Tuesday.

    The "Intelligence" briefing on so-called "Russian hacking" was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 4 января 2017 г.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump said that a briefing he was due to receive on Russia’s alleged hack attacks and meddling with US elections was strangely delayed until Friday, making the President-elect wonder whether there was enough “intelligence” to “build” the case in the first place.

Trump previously expressed skepticism about the US intelligence community’s assessment of Moscow’s involvement in hack attacks and its alleged attempts to influence presidential elections. “I just want them to be sure because it’s a pretty serious charge,” Trump said on December 31, recalling the US invasion in Iraq was based on flawed and false intelligence. “If you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster, and they were wrong,” he added.
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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2017, 05:51:06 PM »
Oh, Gawd!  Where are we?  A total fascist creepizoid arse-face like Trump, acting as a Republican, just handed the Republicans of a few years ago a poop sandwich by stating what we all should know about the false pretenses behind the Iraq war.  But the same dickwad is preparing for the most outragiously fascist, plutocratic face-kicking administration in World History. So we're supposed to love him and thank him and just fall all over ourselves and shit. ::)
My "avatar" graphic is Japanese calligraphy (shodō) forming the word shoshin, meaning "beginner's mind". --  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshin -- It is with shoshin that I am now and always "meeting my breath" for the first time. Try it!

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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2017, 06:23:00 PM »
Oh, Gawd!  Where are we?  A total fascist creepizoid arse-face like Trump, acting as a Republican, just handed the Republicans of a few years ago a poop sandwich by stating what we all should know about the false pretenses behind the Iraq war.  But the same dickwad is preparing for the most outragiously fascist, plutocratic face-kicking administration in World History. So we're supposed to love him and thank him and just fall all over ourselves and shit. ::)

Fuck Trump.  I won't recognize him as POTUS.  In fact, I don't recognize Washington D.C. as the city that houses the leaders of my "country," either. 

The Corporatocracy runs the world.  Trump is just another egocentric fuck stick "in charge" of shit.  The only thing he's in charge of is the bullshit that spews out of his infantile mouth...he's in pretty good command of that bullshit. 

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2017, 06:34:01 PM »
Oh, Gawd!  Where are we?  A total fascist creepizoid arse-face like Trump, acting as a Republican, just handed the Republicans of a few years ago a poop sandwich by stating what we all should know about the false pretenses behind the Iraq war.  But the same dickwad is preparing for the most outragiously fascist, plutocratic face-kicking administration in World History. So we're supposed to love him and thank him and just fall all over ourselves and shit. ::)

Fuck Trump.  I won't recognize him as POTUS.  In fact, I don't recognize Washington D.C. as the city that houses the leaders of my "country," either. 

The Corporatocracy runs the world.  Trump is just another egocentric fuck stick "in charge" of shit.  The only thing he's in charge of is the bullshit that spews out of his infantile mouth...he's in pretty good command of that bullshit.

We need an "unrecognize Da Goobermint" referndum!

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2017, 06:44:36 PM »
Oh, Gawd!  Where are we?  A total fascist creepizoid arse-face like Trump, acting as a Republican, just handed the Republicans of a few years ago a poop sandwich by stating what we all should know about the false pretenses behind the Iraq war.  But the same dickwad is preparing for the most outragiously fascist, plutocratic face-kicking administration in World History. So we're supposed to love him and thank him and just fall all over ourselves and shit. ::)

Fuck Trump.  I won't recognize him as POTUS.  In fact, I don't recognize Washington D.C. as the city that houses the leaders of my "country," either. 

The Corporatocracy runs the world.  Trump is just another egocentric fuck stick "in charge" of shit.  The only thing he's in charge of is the bullshit that spews out of his infantile mouth...he's in pretty good command of that bullshit.

We need an "unrecognize Da Goobermint" referndum!

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That's the Libertarian idea, but you don't believe it.

Allow me to correct your statement Statist

We need to recognize Lefty Commie Goobermint and reject the others. Fixed it for you.

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2017, 07:24:56 PM »

That's the Libertarian idea, but you don't believe it.

Allow me to correct your statement Statist

We need to recognize Lefty Commie Goobermint and reject the others. Fixed it for you.

Give me a way-out-left "commie" anti-authoritarian, decentralized pinko socialist anarchist society and I'll be happy.

I do not like or trust Right "libertarianism," which I regard as just another form of totalitarian authoritarianism in "libertarian" drag.  Left libertarianism? Sure, why not?
My "avatar" graphic is Japanese calligraphy (shodō) forming the word shoshin, meaning "beginner's mind". --  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshin -- It is with shoshin that I am now and always "meeting my breath" for the first time. Try it!

 

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